Chavez at UN called Bush "The Devil"

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Said "Bush was here yesterday and you can still smell the sulphur."" Chavez also suggested MOVING the UN to another country and got a big applause after his speech.

DAMNN! :eek: :eek: Got NO LOVE for Bush or the US.

-VG
 
Fuck that two bit commie dictator. If George Bush wants invade countries for corporate interests, institute open facism in the US, and perpetrate terrorist attacks against his own people it's his right goddamnit. God bless George Bush, the savior of humanity.
 
African Herbsman said:
Fuck that two bit commie dictator. If George Bush wants invade countries for corporate interests, institute open facism in the US, and perpetrate terrorist attacks against his own people it's his right goddamnit. God bless George Bush, the savior of humanity.

My question is, what are the Venezuelan people thinking about Chavez talking shit about the US? A bad ass or a dumb ass?

-VG
 
They're probably cheering (except the elite). But the cheers will be short lived once they're invaded or subjected to another US sanctioned coup.
 
VegasGuy said:
Said "Bush was here yesterday and you can still smell the sulphur."" Chavez also suggested MOVING the UN to another country and got a big applause after his speech.

DAMNN! :eek: :eek: Got NO LOVE for Bush or the US.

-VG

I think Chavez looked like a buffoon making personal attacks and ranting and raving on the world stage, but he drew applause so whatever, if the UN wants to move to another country fine big loss, they will miss that 3 billion dollars that the US gives them every year, lets see if Chavez and Ahmadenijad are willing to take over that donation.
 
African Herbsman said:
They're probably cheering (except the elite). But the cheers will be short lived once they're invaded or subjected to another US sanctioned coup.

Where do people get this idea that the US plans to invade Venezuela anytime in this century?
 
From the same people who said a bomb blew up the levees and some Japs steered the hurricane into NewOrleans. Say that shit on TV and people believe it as fact.

-VG
 
Iran, Venezuela, Syria to Collaborate on Oil Refinery
Sep 19, '06

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(IsraelNN.com) Iran, Venezuela and Syria are to collaborate on a new oil refinery for processing 150,000 barrels a day, according to Venezuela's oil minister, Rafael Ramirez. The refinery is to be located in Syria, while construction will be undertaken by Iran and Venezuela.

Ramirez made the announcement during a first-time visit by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to Venezuela on Monday. Ahmadinejad is backing Venezuela's plan to obtain a UN security council seat, from which Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez would challenge the Western efforts to impose international sanctions on Iran.
 
Gods_Favorite said:
Where do people get this idea that the US plans to invade Venezuela anytime in this century?

Chavez is constantly putting it out that the U.S. is planning to invade because he has good reason to. There are operations going on constantly that are never publicized at the time. The allegations that follow are for the most part well founded & released by supposed leaks, misinformation, ficticious claims, later on.

Information is already out there(Venezuela) that U.S. is funding intrests within Venezuela and publicly funding oppositon to Chavez office. That at least has been acknowledged by govt. officials who decline to site the groups or individuals recieving "aid".

Don't think that U.S. special forces haven't already set plans to "invade" covertly, if the situation arises there is and has been for some time, a U.S. ship close by. I will stop short to say U.S. will invade Venezuela, simply because, we have bigger fish to fry. on that note, U.S. Intelligence services are all over this clown...
 
George Bush presents an easy target for Chavez. I doubt Chavez is seriously worried about an invasion, but his constant saying it works to his benefit. While we are bogged down in Iraq, Mr. Chavez is having a field day in our back yard and everywhere else that there are anti-America audiences. Chavez is only using Bush and his poor assed policy and dumb-assed responses to win hearts, minds and support.

Note that he has said that his views towards the U.S. will change as soon as someone else becomes president. Right now, he's just acting like a lot of short men with the short-man syndrome by sucking up to bigger men and i.e., the Iranian President and sticking his thumb in GW's eyes, while spending the oil proceeds that the Iranian president helped him reap (by his constant threat to close the Persian Gulf -- which keeps sending oil prices higher). Like most shit, we'll cycle out of this and we'll see a much humbler Chavez.

QueEx
 
<font size="6"><center>Rangel to Chavez:
'You Don't Condemn My President'</font size></center>


September 21, 2006

(CNSNews.com) - Rep. Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.), in response to Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez's comments about President Bush Wednesday, said Thursday he is personally offended. During a speech before the U.N. General Assembly, Chavez said "the devil himself is right in the house," referring to President Bush, who spoke before the world body a day earlier. "Yesterday the devil came here - right here, right here - and it smells of sulfur still today," Chavez added.

But Rangel said neither Chavez nor any other president can come to the United States "and think because we have a problem with our president" that they can denigrate the president and Americans will not be offended. "You don't come into my country, you don't come into my congressional district, and you don't condemn my president. If there's any criticism of President Bush, it should be restricted to Americans - whether we voted for him or not," Rangel said in a press conference.

http://www.cnsnews.com/ThisHour.asp#Rangel to Chavez: 'You Don't Condemn My President'
 
Good point QueEx but this is truly amazing to me. Rangel is doing a Mea Culpa already? I read Nancy Polosi is talking like she's got love for Bush too? WTF! Based on early reports on the news and the standing ovations Chavez speech is getting in his district, he is only saying what they have been saying about Bush for years. These foreign leaders feel perfectly justified in saying whatever vile thing they can think of to say in the host country.

However, try to say this same shit about Chavez or Ahmadinejad in their countries, out loud, on line or on the TV. Not only will they cut your damn head off but most of your families would disappear as well. Freedom of speech doesn't exist there.

-VG
 
i actually agree with the logic that he's our president to beat up on and don't think it's hypocritical at all.

i just question whether the dems mean it. their base is muckraker after all.
 
im pretty sure these cats goin be a big player with Oil pretty soon, Chavez got a lot of that shyt. He own the largest oil company in the carribean, i forget the name of it, but it was all over Puerto Rico... Im not sure if he own the company and the oil fields... not sure if them are in Venezuela, but he got PAPER!
 
<font size="5"><center>Anti-Americanism Is Providing a Glue</font size>
<font size="4">The rhetoric from the leaders of Iran, Sudan and
Venezuela at the U.N. shared a theme of outrage at
the U.S., despite their differences</font size></center>

Los Angeles Times
By Paul Richter, Times Staff Writer
September 22, 2006


WASHINGTON — The outpouring of anti-American rhetoric at the United Nations this week is demonstrating how anger at the United States is uniting the developing world in a way not seen since the 1980s, U.S. officials and analysts say.

Leaders such as Venezuela's Hugo Chavez, Sudan's Omar Hassan Ahmed Bashir and Iran's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad are divided by background and political philosophies, but they spoke as one at the General Assembly regarding perceived U.S. bullying and misdeeds.

Chavez denounced the "imperialist empire," Ahmadinejad railed against U.S. officials' pretensions to be the "rulers of the world," and Bashir complained about powerful intruders trampling his country's sovereignty.

"There's a new sense of the oppressed versus the oppressor," said a senior U.S. official, who asked to remain unnamed. "What they have in common is their hatred of the U.S., and it's created this solidarity across Third World lines."

That solidarity hasn't been seen in the developing world since leftist liberation movements faded after the collapse of the Soviet Union, he said.

The fallout from the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq and other Bush administration policies may be particularly visible in the new bonds between many Muslim nations and populist regimes of South America, an alliance that some call the "axis of the south."

Chavez has become a hero among Muslims, flattered with huge posters in Beirut and given lavish coverage in the news media from Morocco to Pakistan.

Anti-Americanism was the overarching theme last week in Havana at a 118-nation summit of the Non-Aligned Movement, whose headliners included Ahmadinejad, Chavez and Bolivian President Evo Morales. The leaders embodied a burgeoning spirit of defiance toward "the worldwide dictatorship by the United States," declared Cuban Vice President Carlos Lage Davila.

There is little doubt of the deepening unpopularity of the United States, even among longtime allies. Though the U.S. government has doubled its spending on public diplomacy, a poll this year by the Pew Charitable Trusts showed wide dissatisfaction with a central pillar of U.S. foreign policy, the "war against terrorism."

When people in largely Muslim nations were asked whether they approved of "U.S.-led efforts to fight terrorism," 82% in Egypt said no, as did 74% in Jordan, 77% in Turkey and 50% in Pakistan. The results in some European countries were similar. In Spain, 76% of those surveyed said they did not approve; in France, it was 57%.

U.S. officials say they don't believe the growing Third World solidarity constitutes a strategic threat.

Though Chavez visits Iran and Syria, and talks about defense ties, oil sales and economic deals with these countries, North Korea and others, administration officials take the view that the Venezuelan's declarations are mostly posturing to create an impression at home that he has stature as a world leader.

The administration acknowledges that such contacts reinforce anti-Americanism and add to the already sobering public diplomacy challenge. "It creates this impression that everybody is rising up against the Americans, and that's a problem," said the senior U.S. official.

Some outsiders say these new bonds are more than an image problem.

Chavez, for example, has won substantial support from Latin American governments for his bid to win a nonpermanent seat on the U.N. Security Council, even as the Bush administration has campaigned to have the seat go to the friendlier Guatemala. If Venezuela wins, the United States, in addition to facing a barrage of rhetoric, will have a harder time collecting the votes it needs on the council.

This Third World solidarity also has made it easier for Bashir to block a U.N. peacekeeping deployment in the Darfur region of his country, said Lee Feinstein of the Council on Foreign Relations in Washington.

Bashir "has succeeded in interfering with the U.N. deployment by depicting this as an old-fashioned 'us versus the United States,' " said Feinstein, a senior State Department official during the Clinton administration. "The American ability to credibly rally the international community on behalf of the vulnerable in Darfur has been eroded by this unpopularity."

Feinstein said that in drawing together these parts of the world, U.S. unpopularity "has created real diplomatic problems for the country, many of them second-order, but also some big ones."

The State Department has sought to not overreact to the efforts of Chavez and others to forge such alliances, but domestic pressure has been building from conservatives for U.S. diplomats to do more about the situation.

Prominent Republican lawmakers regularly ask State Department officials what more diplomacy can do about Chavez's efforts to build power alliances. And it is clear that this week's outpouring of anger in New York has spread alarm in some quarters and will bring more pressure for the administration to react.

"The Non-Aligned Movement threw down the gauntlet to U.S. global power this week," said Nile Gardiner, a foreign policy analyst at the conservative Heritage Foundation in Washington. "This is a huge public diplomacy challenge, but also a strategic threat." He said Chavez's words were "the strongest attack from any foreign leader on U.S. soil in decades."

Still, analysts and U.S. officials point out that though the shared anti-Americanism of these countries is striking, so too are their differences.

Although advocates of this "axis of the south" describe it as similar to the leftist liberation movements of 20 years ago and earlier, Arab leaders and Africans do not generally share their leftist leanings. And Chavez has yet to win the leadership role in Latin America he craves.

Feinstein said that even though the withering denunciations by Chavez and Ahmadinejad drew applause this week, overall, members of the United Nations were much more united behind American-style views of democracy and economics than they had ever been.

"Opposition has hardened into anti-Americanism and shifted government policy in many places around the world, but the U.N.'s membership is much more in sync with traditional U.S. foreign policy goals and ideals than at any time since the U.N.'s founding," he said. "The tragedy is, the Bush administration hasn't been able to take advantage of that fact."


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paul.richter@latimes.com

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw...2sep22,0,4430301.story?coll=la-home-headlines
 
"However, try to say this same shit about Chavez or Ahmadinejad in their countries, out loud, on line or on the TV. Not only will they cut your damn head off but most of your families would disappear as well. Freedom of speech doesn't exist there."

Yep.... and thats the difference between a demorcracy and a dictatorship.....

Perhaps its time to move the U.N. for all the money we pay to have it, we don't get anything out of it but a bunch of talk...
 
bromack1 said:
"However, try to say this same shit about Chavez or Ahmadinejad in their countries, out loud, on line or on the TV. Not only will they cut your damn head off but most of your families would disappear as well. Freedom of speech doesn't exist there."

Yep.... and thats the difference between a demorcracy and a dictatorship.....

Perhaps its time to move the U.N. for all the money we pay to have it, we don't get anything out of it but a bunch of talk...

I would get rid of em. The only piece of the UN that does anything if you call it anything is the security council. I say launch all that shit, building and all to Iran or Venezuela and leave the security council piece right here. Fuck em. They don't do shit at the UN anyway. Many believed that the UN had it in their hands to prevent the genocide in Rwanda but those fuckers did nothing and allowed it to happen. Link
A lot of other links out there like that and some even say some country at the UN wanted to remove the word GENOCIDE from the report so they wouldn't have do move quicker because genocide was too strong a term. I'll see if I can find that story and post it back. But they are just a body of worthless despots anyway.

-VG
 
This shit is like living in your home and your father is joseph stalin.

Now you got mommy and joe telling you how good he is but the rest of the world knows the truth. You are constantly told only good things about him. The only bad shit you might here is an in house argument, meanwhile as a child with a child like mind you are blind to how the world feels about your father and what he really does.

The american people are like children to this biased assed dare I say state run media. For isnt it the corporations that run the state in a corpocracy, are they not the ones who fund politicians?

Chavez brings up excellent points, better points then rove...er i mean bush ever said. They are lost cause he called the evil war criminal bush a devil.

What about when bush called muthafukas the axis of evil, what about him calling sodam evil and turn around and do worse shit. :smh: :smh:

Its sad chavez made the speech cause it only makes bush look right to the childlike american masses. I dont know of two brothers who buy anything bush says, black people see through bush bullshit.

Let bush make another speech using "freedom" 25 times in 5 minutes and see how many people of the 6 billion on earth call him a crazy person or chavez.

We got a hitler incarnate running shit and we look stupid to the whole fucking world.

Seriously everybody from europe to even south america think we have gone batshit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! When blair is gone next year it will just be america and israel.

Bush is a war criminal getting in front of the un talking about freedom. Chavez just said what the world thinks of bush. This war on terror is all bullshit. Attacking the taliban who had jackshit to do with 9/11 instaed of the saudi funded real terrorist just for some pipeline bullshit.

Why they dont catch binny laidem??? Cause if they did they couldnt even charge him for 9/11 and would look like some dumb asses. The FBI has stated there is no hard evidence linking him to 9/11.

The world knows this shit so it is bush who looks crazy not chavez has much as OUR media will tell us.

Bush knows he can point the white masses at any group of brown people and say 9/11 and its on.

The dems kissing bush ass as usual trying to get the american people for the vote and are standing for nothing and falling for everything, knowing good and dam well if they get the control in november they are impeaching this cocksucker who then can very well be tried as a war criminal so america can save face and get respect back otherwise we are toast. "dont talk about m president", well do something about the war criminal and we will stop looking like asses to the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And who on this board can say with a straight face that bush isnt the biggest threat to the world right now? He makes chavez and amhadajan look like bert and earney when it comes to a threat.

But thanks in part to chavez and the dems having no balls they just lost the election. Defending him therefore in a subliminal way making it look like we need no change.

THE DEMS SHOULD HAVE KEPT THEIR MOUTHS SHUT CHANGED THE SUBJECT BACK TO IRAQ

reporter "What do you think of chavez calling bush the devil"

democrat "I think we need to focus on important issues like how many americans died today in iraq. how can we worry about name calling when we are in the middle of war?"

Instead they come with "dont attack fearless leader, oh my god he said what about mein furher?????" And a blackman at that, no wonder why there werent any slave revolts that worked in america, to many stockholm syndrome uncle toms "why we wanna leave massa" negros.

Knowing they called that cocksucker worse AND is he wasnt a cocksucker nobody could say shit about him.
 
Oh, lmbao, how quickly we throw out the baby with the bath water. Charles Rangel has been a champion of the left for ages, but when he says something with a little civility, he's Tommy Rangel. LOL

All Rangel said geno, was something most people agree on anyway: "I can talk about my ho but that doesn't mean you can." That <u>doesn't</u> mean the ho is right. She's probably wrong, but I'll take care of my ho and you take care of yours."

lmao

QueEx
 
QueEx said:
Oh, lmbao, how quickly we throw out the baby with the bath water. Charles Rangel has been a champion of the left for ages, but when he says something with a little civility, he's Tommy Rangel. LOL

All Rangel said geno, was something most people agree on anyway: "I can talk about my ho but that doesn't mean you can." That <u>doesn't</u> mean the ho is right. She's probably wrong, but I'll take care of my ho and you take care of yours."

lmao

QueEx

LMAO!

That about sums it up.

"Chavez brings up excellent points..."

What points specifically were those since I don't speak spanish and didn't hear all those points.

Could you make those excellent points as he made them on the tube in his country? That's where I am in this post. Not ready to morph it into all that other shit. Politically both parties got issues and fuck what you heard, 9/11 didn't begin 9/11. That building was bombed once upon a time along with many other American interests and plenty of people died as a result.

That shit happened began long before the current administration. So give me a break with the myopic view of history and trying to find glory in one head of state who clearly disrespected how we live. Another point Chavez made was that America is too powerful and should be cut down to size. That goes beyond the current administration and is now talking about what freedoms we ALL enjoy. Including the right to criticize our leaders in public.

-VG
 
QueEx said:
Oh, lmbao, how quickly we throw out the baby with the bath water. Charles Rangel has been a champion of the left for ages, but when he says something with a little civility, he's Tommy Rangel. LOL

All Rangel said geno, was something most people agree on anyway: "I can talk about my ho but that doesn't mean you can." That <u>doesn't</u> mean the ho is right. She's probably wrong, but I'll take care of my ho and you take care of yours."

lmao

QueEx

He aint been taking care of his ho.

My point is that it gives a subliminal message to the people that bush is right chavez is a madman and nothing needs to change. The people aint gonna look at you better for that ho shit, they gonna look at their canidates they might have turned on as "they must be doing something right".

The american people need to see chavez and the rest of the world are growingto hate us more and more cause of bush. Dont defend him from just namecalling.

The dems are pussys, snakes. Vote for an unjust war THEN try to jump ship type cats. Snake who try to do what the poll say thats why they losing lately. At least the republicans stand for something and aint kissing no ass


Keep your mouth shut, your ho is out of pocket and disrespecting the game and you checking pimpin?

Chavez is right, what business did america have in iraq bringing socalled democracy by gunpoint?

I just think dams defending bush hurt themselves and me just like they did by not standing up against bush before the afghanistan and iraq wars.

Stand for something dammit, muthafucka bush destroyed millions of lives cause your punk ass didnt check yo ho and now you wanna cry cause somebody came here and checked him????

Wait. Then why does bush think the iraqi people want outsiders over there telling them their leader is no good????????????????????????????? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Americas logic is flawless!!!!!!!!

Cant keep their "ho" from wreckless eyeballing pimpin and then want to check pimpin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Rangel looks like a bitch to me for disrespecting himself. Did he forget bush tried to ice chavez twice?

I give a fuck about rangel but when these dems kiss ass it effects us cause then the republicans can run amok while rangel and other dems got mouth full of apple pie.

Defend the president but wont defend the constitution and american people from said devil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dont grow balls now and pick on some enemy america has been told to hate, pick the hard fight and stick to it!!!!!!!!
 
Chavez* is on one, like russian roulette with a fully loaded pistol :lol:



*Don't ever get involved in the fam's business if your an outsider, it could end up, that you find yourself on the receiving end of the "business" :hmm:
 
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