Charles Koch: Boy, did we screw up!

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After Pouring Gasoline On U.S. Divide, Charles Koch Now Claims He Wants To Heal Nation

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Four days before this year’s presidential election, Charles Koch—the voluble Kansas billionaire who has spent a fortune injecting his particular brand of prairie libertarianism into the American political debate—pauses at the other end of the line when asked if he will vote for Donald Trump or Joe Biden.

“That’s a very divisive question, because however I answer, that’s going to upset a bunch of people,” he says. “That’s why there’s a secret ballot.”

Mr. Koch, whom Forbes calls the 15th-wealthiest man in the U.S., says he isn’t interested in more division. At age 85, he says, he is turning his attention to building bridges across partisan divides to find answers to sprawling social problems such as poverty, addiction, recidivism, gang violence and homelessness. His critics are skeptical, noting that his fierce Republican partisanship over the years blew up a lot of bridges.

Mr. Koch has written (with Brian Hooks) a new book, “Believe in People: Bottom-Up Solutions for a Top-Down World,” which will be published on Nov. 17. It is part mea culpa, part self-help guide and part road map toward a libertarian America. Along the way, the book traces Mr. Koch’s life from hardheaded adolescent to student, engineer, industrialist, tycoon and political mastermind. The book suggests that he wants to add one final act: philosopher and, he hopes, unifier.



The key to successful, long-term movements? “Unite a diversity of people behind a common goal,” Mr. Koch says. “That’s our approach today.”

Mr. Koch is still overseeing Koch Industries, a multibillion-dollar conglomerate, and its 130,000 employees. He worked from home for a while when the pandemic began; he still avoids crowds and most public spaces, and wears a mask when he is around people.

His new book is the latest step in a yearslong process of rebranding (a word he doesn’t appreciate). Mr. Koch, it seems, doesn’t want to be forever known as a hard-driving partisan.

“You’ve probably seen all the names I’ve been called,” Mr. Koch says. He tells me to call him Chuckie.

‘You’ve probably seen all the names I’ve been called.’

He grew up in Wichita, Kan., and was in and out of eight schools. His father, the steel-backed son of a Dutch immigrant who (according to Jane Mayer of the New Yorker) made money building Soviet oil refineries during the Stalin era, sent him to live for a year with an uncle in rural North Texas after he was expelled from a military high school for drinking. When the young Mr. Koch wasn’t in school, he was shoveling wheat in a grain elevator.

Mr. Koch attended MIT, where he learned about the second law of thermodynamics, which holds that entropy virtually always increases in a closed system. That laid the cornerstone for his brand of heterodox libertarianism, which has placed him at odds with Mr. Trump.

People are at their best when applying their specific talents to the problems they know firsthand, Mr. Koch writes. Tying people’s individual strengths together can make an institution a force multiplier, but curtailing those talents in a top-down system leads to decline and disorder.



In Mr. Koch’s telling, the reason for social progress and increased prosperity is simple: Billions of people have had the freedom to try to fail, invent and succeed. They have solved the problems in front of them and lifted society from the bottom up.

Mr. Koch applied that philosophy to Koch Industries, which he took over from his father when he was 31 and the company employed just 300 people. Its annual revenues today are around $120 billion.


The problem, Mr. Koch says, is that such freedom is under constant attack by people who want to take control away from individuals and create top-down systems that stifle innovation. He rails against what he calls unnecessary licensing and government lobbying. (Koch Industries has spent more than $100 million in lobbying over the past decade, according to federal records kept by the Center for Responsive Politics, a nonpartisan group tracking money in U.S. politics.)


Mr. Koch and his late brother David seeded the political landscape with conservative and libertarian ideas, then built an infrastructure to nurture them. Koch-aligned ventures fund more than 1,000 faculty members at more than 200 universities, helped bankroll think tanks such as the Cato Institute and the American Enterprise Institute, and supported the American Legislative Exchange Council (a nonpartisan organization of similarly minded state legislators) to write bills that were introduced and championed by Republican state lawmakers across the country.

Mr. Koch’s influence increased in 2010 after the Supreme Court ruled in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission that corporations were exempt from restrictions on political spending. That controversial ruling brought a flood of new money into politics from wealthy individuals, including the Koch brothers, George Soros and Sheldon Adelson. The ruling also allowed nonprofits to more easily keep the sources of their funding secret, allowing so-called “dark money” to influence elections.


The Koch brothers’ organization raised and spent billions of dollars, untethered to the limits of the campaign-finance system. The wave of money influenced policy areas from health care to environmental regulation, foreign policy and unionization. Critics warned that the Kochs were rigging the public debate to enrich their own bottom line by casting corporate self-interest as a new form of populism.

Mr. Koch disagrees and bristles at the notion that he wields too much influence. “When you look at countries that don’t let everyone participate, those in power stay in power unchallenged,” he says. “Instead of limiting certain people’s ability to engage, we should do all we can to empower more people to get engaged.”

‘It seems to me the tea party was largely unsuccessful long-term.’

After President Barack Obama was elected in 2008 and the tea party (which pushed to slash federal spending) emerged, Mr. Koch threw his weight behind the new movement and its candidates. “We did not create the tea party. We shared their concern about unsustainable government spending, and we supported some tea-party groups on that issue,” Mr. Koch wrote in an email. “But it seems to me the tea party was largely unsuccessful long-term, given that we’re coming off a Republican administration with the largest government spending in history.”

Mr. Koch said he has since come to regret his partisanship, which he says badly deepened divisions. “Boy, did we screw up!” he writes in his new book. “What a mess!”

Mr. Koch is now trying to work together with Democrats and liberals on issues such as immigration, criminal-justice reform and limiting U.S. intervention abroad, where he thinks common ground can be found. He has partnered with organizations including the LeBron James Family Foundation, the American Civil Liberties Union and even a handful of Democratic state legislative campaigns. In 2019, he renamed the Koch network of about 700 donors as Stand Together.

Still, his political spending remains almost entirely partisan. Koch Industries’ PAC and employees donated $2.8 million in the 2020 campaign cycle to Republican candidates and $221,000 to Democratic candidates, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

Koch insiders say that it will take time to build trust with Democrats, some of whom would be happy to spurn a Koch donation and then raise funds around that rejection. Mr. Koch says he will continue to look for potential partners.

“I congratulate Joe Biden and Kamala Harris on their victory,” he wrote in an email. “I look forward to finding ways to work with them to break down the barriers holding people back, whether in the economy, criminal justice, immigration, the Covid-19 pandemic, or anywhere else. At the same time, I hope we all use this post-election period to find a better way forward. Because of partisanship, we’ve come to expect too much of politics and too little of ourselves and one another.”

 
here is whats hilarious and maybe overlooked by some,

let me give you a mrfreddygoodbud breakdown...

he flat out dissed all those tiki torch, proud boy,

neo nazi think they are american types...

He in a nut shell said,

we fucked up by manipulating you mindless idiots into fighting each other....

he pretty much said, we are the puppet masters and you guys were the puppets, but now we regret the whole puppet show...

it goes way deeper, but the fact he is admitting, all those trump supporters are mindless idiots that they control..

is a sign of a whole lotta change about to take place...

bruh... wait till january...

Im expecting one of two things before then...

1 trump putting on a spectacle exiting the white house.

2 trump giving a speech and saying waaaaay more than he is supposed to, pissing off national security.

but most likely it will be three..

trump just milking his supporters good one last time before he slithers aways....

watch the mindless idiots fill up his pockets, talkin bout collecting money for his court case to fight for a recount or some stupid shit...

yea its stupid but sho nuff entertaining....

fuck they steal my fuckin money every payday and call it taxes, the LEAST they could do is entertain a knigga...till they give him back his estate they stole
 
but most likely it will be three..

trump just milking his supporters good one last time before he slithers aways....

watch the mindless idiots fill up his pockets, talkin bout collecting money for his court case to fight for a recount or some stupid shit...

yea its stupid but sho nuff entertaining....
This!

Between this and super pacs I'm sure Trump hit a sweet lick
 
It's like he creates all this havoc, then comes back and says, "My bad" - only to do the same shit all over again! And some people will eat it up, but there are a certain amount of of us who aren't falling for the banana in the tailpipe again. Fuck that.
 
He's like A Dr. Frankenstein. He creates a monster; then the monster goes out into the world and does monster type shit. Mindless people blame the monster, but people in the know know that it was the Doctor's fault for turning this MoFo loose on the world.

Now, he's regretful... GOOD! While he's feeling this way, we need to figure out how we can get him to dispense with some of that $120B they get annually (can you believe that shit- ANNUALLY), and use it to repair the damage he and his monsters have wreaked on the country.
 
you cant see the eyes of the demon in till him come calling..quote(king willie)....trying to clean his act up before he drops straight to hell....
this is what he spent millions/billions on,,him and his money is pure evil.... :smh: :smh: its wayyyy to late.....
 
He's like A Dr. Frankenstein. He creates a monster; then the monster goes out into the world and does monster type shit. Mindless people blame the monster, but people in the know know that it was the Doctor's fault for turning this MoFo loose on the world.

Now, he's regretful... GOOD! While he's feeling this way, we need to figure out how we can get him to dispense with some of that $120B they get annually (can you believe that shit- ANNUALLY), and use it to repair the damage he and his monsters have wreaked on the country.
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here is whats hilarious and maybe overlooked by some,

let me give you a mrfreddygoodbud breakdown...

he flat out dissed all those tiki torch, proud boy,

neo nazi think they are american types...

He in a nut shell said,

we fucked up by manipulating you mindless idiots into fighting each other....

he pretty much said, we are the puppet masters and you guys were the puppets, but now we regret the whole puppet show...

it goes way deeper, but the fact he is admitting, all those trump supporters are mindless idiots that they control..

is a sign of a whole lotta change about to take place...

bruh... wait till january...

Im expecting one of two things before then...

1 trump putting on a spectacle exiting the white house.

2 trump giving a speech and saying waaaaay more than he is supposed to, pissing off national security.

but most likely it will be three..

trump just milking his supporters good one last time before he slithers aways....

watch the mindless idiots fill up his pockets, talkin bout collecting money for his court case to fight for a recount or some stupid shit...

yea its stupid but sho nuff entertaining....

fuck they steal my fuckin money every payday and call it taxes, the LEAST they could do is entertain a knigga...till they give him back his estate they stole
all facts.....these gullible white folks pockets are deep and they dont mind giving to the cause...look at the crown jewel of white folks the NRA..
they gave to no end and they stole wayyy more then they took in....and there still giving....:smh::smh:
 
Fuck him and his brother. He would say that shit after he got 230 lifetime judges, a 1 year president who rolled back numerous regulations, donated millions to save the house, senate and state legislatures. While the ink is drying on a multi million dollar Georgia senate check he makes this comment.
 
Money talks
Judd LegumNov 16

Charles Koch (Photo by Patrick T. Fallon for The Washington Post via Getty Images)

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Charles Koch, the right-wing billionaire who spent hundreds of millions of dollars to radicalize the Republican party, now says he regrets his "partisanship." In advance of a new book to be released on Tuesday, Koch is recasting himself as a pragmatic problem-solver seeking to bring people together. He participated in an extensive interview with the Wall Street Journal as part of the rebranding process:
Mr. Koch said he has since come to regret his partisanship, which he says badly deepened divisions. “Boy, did we screw up!” he writes in his new book. “What a mess!”
Mr. Koch is now trying to work together with Democrats and liberals on issues such as immigration, criminal-justice reform and limiting U.S. intervention abroad, where he thinks common ground can be found.
This spirit of cooperation, however, is not reflected in his political giving. During the 2020 election, the Koch Industries PAC contributed $1.37 million to Republicans and $46,000 to Democrats. Koch Industries PAC is more heavily partisan than it was in 2010 when it donated $1.18 million to Republicans and $112,000 to Democrats.

But perhaps the results of the 2020 election have changed Koch's approach? In an email to the Wall Street Journal, he congratulated Biden and Harris on their victory.
I congratulate Joe Biden and Kamala Harris on their victory. I look forward to finding ways to work with them to break down the barriers holding people back, whether in the economy, criminal justice, immigration, the Covid-19 pandemic, or anywhere else. At the same time, I hope we all use this post-election period to find a better way forward. Because of partisanship, we’ve come to expect too much of politics and too little of ourselves and one another.
Again, no. Since the election, an organization funded by Koch, Americans for Prosperity Action, has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars supporting the campaign of Senator David Perdue (R-GA), who will face voters again on January 5 in a run-off election against challenger Jon Ossoff. Perdue's election would secure Republican control of the Senate, severely curtailing the ability of Biden to tackle the country's problems.
Americans for Prosperity Action has reported spending $440,000 in support of Perdue's candidacy. Koch is supporting Perdue even as the Senator publicly fuels conspiracy theories that the election was stolen from Trump.

Perdue's radical attack on democracy

Koch is funneling money to Perdue as Perdue works in concert with Trump to attack the democratic process. On November 9, the day before Americans for Prosperity Action distributed the bulk of its money, Perdue issued a statement calling on Brad Raffensperger, Georgia's Republican Secretary of State, to resign.

The statement, which Perdue issued jointly with Senator Kelly Loeffler (R-GA), calls Raffensperger's management of the election an "embarrassment" that lacked "transparency and uniformity."
There have been too many failures in Georgia elections this year and the most recent election has shined a national light on the problems. While blame certainly lies elsewhere as well, the buck ultimately stops with the Secretary of State. The mismanagement and lack of transparency from the Secretary of State is unacceptable. Honest elections are paramount to the foundation of our democracy. The Secretary of State has failed to deliver honest and transparent elections. He has failed the people of Georgia, and he should step down immediately.
Perdue and Loeffler did not provide any evidence that the election in Georgia was not "honest."

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported that "the president and his top allies pressured the two Republican senators to take this step, lest he tweet a negative word about them and risk divorcing them from his base ahead of the consequential runoff." The Perdue campaign denied there was any coordination with Trump or his campaign on the statement.

Regardless, it is clear that Perdue's strategy is to "cling tightly to the lame-duck President, Donald Trump, and his baseless claims of voter fraud, with the hope of fuelling enough outrage among Georgia’s many Trump fans to drive turnout in January." This is the strategy that Koch is financing while claiming to have rejected partisan politics.

Perdue's new strategy

Koch is eager to put distance between himself and Trump. But he's putting his money behind Perdue, who voted with Trump 95% of the time over the last four years. Despite his voting record, Perdue has attempted to craft a more moderate profile to attract swing voters. That's over now.
After keeping his distance before the general election, Perdue has embraced a partnership with Loeffler and formed a joint fundraising committee. In the closing days of the campaign, Loeffler has accepted an endorsement from Congresswoman-elect Marjorie Taylor Greene, who has promoted the QAnon conspiracy theory. Loeffler also participated in an interview with a fringe media figure, Jack Posobiec, with ties to white supremacists.
Perdue acknowledges that he has stopped trying to convince voters to support him. "What we have to do is not persuade people, what we have to do is get the vote out," Perdue said. He urged people to turn out and vote for him so he can fight "radical leftists."

Dark money and the Peach State

Koch isn't the only one pouring money to support Perdue in Georgia. But the funding source of one of the largest spenders for Perdue and Loeffler is cloaked in secrecy.

The National Victory Action Fund was formed on October 1 to support Republicans running for the Senate. Since election day, the National Victory Action Fund has spent $1.95 million supporting Loeffler and Perdue. According to those disclosures, the cash went toward email communications, text messaging, and online advertising.

Who is funding the National Victory Action Fund? We don't know. Thus far, the PAC has only filed one financial disclosure on the sources of its funding, which was filed on October 22. That filing only listed $2,960.00 in contributions and $140 in spending. The PAC, which has no website, will not be required to further disclose its funding sources until December 3.
The filing shows a gaping hole in the nation's campaign finance system. It's possible to form a political action committee a couple of weeks before an election day, spend millions to influence federal elections, and then not disclose the source of the funds until much later.
 
All the shyt that is going on can be traced back to his bytch ass and his punk ass dead brother!!!
 
You guys are gullible. These Koch brothers don’t give a fuck. They don’t like trump because of American first policies which includes strict immigration

Koch brothers are globalist and want open borders for cheap labor. That’s why most billionaires and corporate America support the democrats now because the democrats are mostly Neo-liberals globalist. While republican base (Maga) want American first policies like bringing jobs back and strict border control

Something the 90s democrats use to be about.

This is all about money. Don’t think these dirt bag billionaires all of sudden have a change of heart. It’s all about maximizing profits. These fuckers were all on the Republican trump train until trump enabled China tariffs which will make it expensive to import products from China
 
here is whats hilarious and maybe overlooked by some,

let me give you a mrfreddygoodbud breakdown...

he flat out dissed all those tiki torch, proud boy,

neo nazi think they are american types...

He in a nut shell said,

we fucked up by manipulating you mindless idiots into fighting each other....

he pretty much said, we are the puppet masters and you guys were the puppets, but now we regret the whole puppet show...

it goes way deeper, but the fact he is admitting, all those trump supporters are mindless idiots that they control..

is a sign of a whole lotta change about to take place...

bruh... wait till january...

Im expecting one of two things before then...

1 trump putting on a spectacle exiting the white house.

2 trump giving a speech and saying waaaaay more than he is supposed to, pissing off national security.

but most likely it will be three..

trump just milking his supporters good one last time before he slithers aways....

watch the mindless idiots fill up his pockets, talkin bout collecting money for his court case to fight for a recount or some stupid shit...

yea its stupid but sho nuff entertaining....

fuck they steal my fuckin money every payday and call it taxes, the LEAST they could do is entertain a knigga...till they give him back his estate they stole


Yea I would say this is a spectacle all right :lol: :lol::lol:
 
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