cavs v. pistons game 6 - what happened?

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i've been dying to write this thread all day, but i wanted to gather my thoughts so i didn't miss anything.

first off, let's address the "disappearing" coach saunders argument. does it hold any water for THIS PARTICULAR GAME? YES.

coach saunders and his staff came to the same conclusion as i did for game 6 strategy. on D pack the lane, on O attack the paint. fantastic game plan. it worked for 34 minutes. unfortunately, when some of his players BROKE shot discipline in the last 2:00 of Q3, coach saunders did not recognize or correct it. in fact, coach saunders didn't do anything until the 9:00 mark of Q4. by that time, the damage had already been done, and the cavaliers lead was double digits. sorry coach, you get some blame for that one.

second, let's address one of the more obvious points. tayshaun prince had an AWFUL shooting night. but everybody has a poor shooting night from time to time, and it wasn't tayshaun prince's first. the pistons pride themselves on being able to pick up the slack for each other, and they've done it a million times. you can't hang the L on tayshaun prince, but he does get some blame for not performing up to par.

third, let's address the other obvious point. daniel gibson. sometimes a team benefits from dumb luck. am i referring to daniel gibson's HOT SHOOTING STREAK? NO. credit the young man for hitting several big shots and FTs. so what was INCREDIBLY LUCKY? daniel gibson wouldn't even have been in the game had it not been for euro trash sasha pavlovic charging his way to a 4th PF early in Q3. so in a strange twist of fate, daniel gibson entered the game almost by accident, and made the pistons pay the price.

fourth, the ejection. rasheed wallace is a known quantity. a passionate player TO A FAULT. but was the L his fault? NO. the pistons had already begun to give the game away. could rasheed wallace have changed the outcome? possibly. should rasheed wallace have conducted himself better? YES. but don't blame the L on him.

finally, the minor points that cannot be overlooked. richard hamilton had a good scoring night. unfortunately, he was also equally poor with his ball handling. richard hamilton's consecutive turnorvers in Q1 cost the pistons easy baskets.

i love lindsey hunter's on ball D. but his entry passes into the post were HORRIBLE in game 5 and game 6. he is also one of the players who BROKE shot discipline and strayed from the game plan, which ultimately lead to the cavaliers breaking the game open.

footnote to those who need proof of the authenticity of the "game plan" effectiveness i posted on BGOL:

watch Q1-Q3 again. pistons starters build a lead in Q1 until the bench comes in and breaks shot discipline. cavaliers capitalize and take the lead. pistons starters re-enter the game and erase the cavaliers lead by halftime. pistons starters began the 2nd half playing under the "game plan" and it was a 1 point game until they broke shot discipline again. cavaliers capitalize and take the lead, holding on until GAME OVER.
 
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I agree to an extent..but my theory is this: The Cavs attacked their guards.

Enough can't be said about the job that Larry Hughes did on both Tayshaun Prince and Chauncey Billups. Billups said it himself he was tired and was out of sync.

The the playoff format of the last three games being so packed together. You could see Billups was tired. He is the glue that makes the Pistons go.

Along with that Prince took a beating from guarding Lebron on defense and then being guarded by Hughes and Gibson on offense. Their backcourt was on lock.

As a side note: the only real points coming out of the front court was McDyess, CWebb and Rasheed. But CWebb was injury prone and played a LOT of minutes. He was bound to get hurt...and sure enough he came out of game six. That left Rasheed to take the brunt of the offense...THAT'S when they started packing the lane on him. He couldn't take the pressure and spazzed out. After he got kicked out, there was no scorer to go to.

After that with no scoring options when Rasheed kiecked out, the Pistons were done..

To be honest, the Pistons bread and butter was the defense. Flip got away from that and replaced it with coomplex offensive schemes. Isn't Rip supposed to be the man on offense? He was invisible..
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Rollie_Fingaz said:
Isn't Rip supposed to be the man on offense? He was invisible..
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..but besides the obvious problems with Flip...the overriding theme of this series and this particular rivalry continues to be:

The ineffectiveness of Chauncey Billups.

It was discussed before the series even started. Over the last two seasons entering into this ECF, Chauncey was shooting just 34 percent against the Cavs with decreased assists and increased turnovers.

I have not looked at the numbers from this series but he may have had lower percentages this series.

Hughes and Snow just seems to cause Billups problems.. two seasons and 23 games and he still hasn't figured out Cleveland. When Billups struggles, the offense really becomes inconsistent and one thing I notice about Billups is that when he struggles from the field...he doesnt the opposite of what you should do...he continues to take long field goal attempts(often early on the shot clock) as opposed to driving to the hole to pick up easier shots or free throw attempts....

The Cavs have his number
 
eewwll said:
..but besides the obvious problems with Flip...the overriding theme of this series and this particular rivalry continues to be:

The ineffectiveness of Chauncey Billups.

It was discussed before the series even started. Over the last two seasons entering into this ECF, Chauncey was shooting just 34 percent against the Cavs with decreased assists and increased turnovers.

I have not looked at the numbers from this series but he may have had lower percentages this series.

Hughes and Snow just seems to cause Billups problems.. two seasons and 23 games and he still hasn't figured out Cleveland. When Billups struggles, the offense really becomes inconsistent and one thing I notice about Billups is that when he struggles from the field...he doesnt the opposite of what you should do...he continues to take long field goal attempts(often early on the shot clock) as opposed to driving to the hole to pick up easier shots or free throw attempts....

The Cavs have his number

I noticed that you said he's had problems for the past two years with Cleveland. That is because:

1.) L.Hughes got there 2 years ago and
2.) Flip employed that shitty offense 2 years ago.

Kobe fans might not like this, but he once said that Eric Snow was his toughest defender. But that's why they were brought in to begin with. Hughes is in a role where he doesn't need to score, but play perimeter defense. He is the Cavs version of Bruce Bowen and Tayshaun Prince. He gets the tough assignments. Remember..he's always been top 5 in steals.

I personally like teams that have with defenders that pick up the point guard as soon as he inbounds the ball and gives him fits. (Instead of the lazy zone that Stern instituted which allows unathletic Euros a chance to eat in this league..but I'll save that for another rant. :rolleyes: .)
 
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