Brown Vs. Board Of Education Has. For All Intents, Just Been Gutted

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A bitterly divided U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday issued what is likely to be a landmark opinion -- ruling that race cannot be a factor in the assignment of children to public schools.

The court struck down public school choice plans in Seattle, Washington, and Louisville, Kentucky, concluding they relied on an unconstitutional use of racial criteria, with the 5-4 vote reflecting the deep legal and social divide over the issue of race and education.

Similar plans already in place or being proposed across the country could be in danger as a result of the ruling, which would sharply limit the power of local governments to achieve diversity using race-based criteria.

A conservative majority led by Chief Justice John Roberts said other means besides race considerations should be used to achieve diversity in schools.

"The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race," Roberts wrote.

But supporters of the school choice plans found some hope in Justice Anthony Kennedy's concurring opinion. While finding the two particular plans were unconstitutional, Kennedy said race could still be used in narrow circumstances to ensure integrated schools.

"A district may consider it a compelling interest to achieve a diverse student population," he said.

More than a half-century after the high court outlawed segregation in public schools, the justices were deeply divided over one controversial outgrowth of that decision: What role race should play, if any, in assigning students to competitive spots in elementary and secondary schools.


The cases from Kentucky and Washington revisit past disputes over race and education, stemming from the landmark 1954 Brown v. Board of Education decision.

"Before Brown, schoolchildren were told where they could and could not go to school based on color of their skin. The school districts in these cases have not carried the heavy burden of demonstrating that we should allow this once again -- even for very different reasons," Roberts wrote.

Roberts was joined by Justices Antonin Scalia, Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito. Kennedy proved the key swing vote in striking down the Louisville and Seattle plans.

Reading his concurring opinion from the bench, the 70-year-old justice said, "This nation has a moral and ethical obligation to fulfill its historic commitment to creating an integrated society that ensures equal opportunity for all its children.

"A compelling interest exists in avoiding racial isolation, an interest that a school district, in its discretion and expertise, may choose to pursue."

But he added, "Crude measures of this sort [as illustrated in this case] threaten to reduce children to racial chits valued and traded according to one school's supply and another's demand."

Thomas took a harder stance against the choice plans: "Simply putting students together under the same roof does not necessarily mean that the students will learn together or even interact," he said. "Furthermore, it is unclear whether increased interracial contact improves racial attitudes and relations."

CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin said the ruling is "going to rank with the great, important school desegregation opinions of the court's history, starting with Brown v. Board of Education in 1954." (Full story)

"What this court said was even though only a few slots were determined by race, that's too many. You just simply can't consider race in deciding which school kids go to," Toobin said.

"Justice Kennedy, who was the swing vote, said maybe possibly you could do it sometimes. But clearly the message of the court majority here is that race is out as a consideration in school assignments. And a lot of districts still use it and are considering using it, and they're going to have to change."

Those on both sides of the issue, as well as the Bush administration, had hoped the Supreme Court would clarify when and to what lengths state and local officials can go to promote diversity in K-12 education.

In a landmark case three years ago, the justices affirmed racial quotas were unconstitutional but offered a limited but powerful endorsement of affirmative action in higher education. The Supreme Court, whose makeup has changed since the first ruling, has now ruled that legal standard does not apply in a K-12 public school setting.

While supporters on both sides of the issue seemed to agree classroom diversity is an important goal, differences remain over how to maintain it without the real or perceived consequence that some families may be unfairly discriminated against or inconvenienced.

In dissent, Justice John Paul Stevens said the majority "reverses course and reaches the wrong conclusion. In doing so, it distorts precedent, it misapplies the relevant constitutional principles, it announces legal rules that will obstruct efforts by state and local governments to deal effectively with the growing resegregation of public schools, it threatens to substitute for present calm a disruptive round of race-related litigation."

Stevens was joined by Justices David Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer.

The Seattle and Louisville plans are voluntary, introduced in the years after integration of schools in many areas was managed by the courts. They were not designed as remedial efforts to achieve diversity, but to maintain it, as a reflection of the larger communities' racial makeup.

During oral arguments in December, hundreds of demonstrators -- many of them African-American college students -- marched and chanted outside the court in support of the affirmative action plans. Some carried signs such as "Equal education, not segregation."

Louisville-area schools endured decades of federal court oversight after schools there were slow to integrate. When that oversight ended in the late 1990s, county officials sought to maintain integration, requiring that most public schools have at least 15 percent and no more than 50 percent African-American enrollment. The idea was to reflect the whole of Jefferson County, which is 60 percent white and 38 percent black. Officials say their plan reflects not only the need for diversity but also the desire of parents for greater school choice.

A white parent, Crystal Meredith, sued, saying her child was twice denied the school nearest their home and had to endure a three-hour bus ride to a facility that was not their top choice. Many African-American parents raised similar concerns.

"We are here not because we didn't get our first choice, but because we got no choice," said Meredith shortly after the ruling. "I was told by the school board that my son's education was not as important as their plan. I was told I should sacrifice his learning in order to maintain the status quo."

Louisville school officials said the ruling would not affect their school assignment plan for the coming school year.

"Although the court held that some aspects of the [county's] student assignment plan do not satisfy the court's 'narrow tailoring' requirement, it is clear Justice Kennedy's concurring opinion will allow local boards of education to use certain race-conscious measures to maintain integrity in schools," said Frank Mellon, the attorney representing the school system.

In Seattle, public schools often rely on a "tiebreaker." Under the plan, begun in 1998, families can send their children to any school in their district. When there are more applicants than spaces available, and when a school is not considered "racially balanced," race is one of several "integration tiebreakers" used to achieve diversity.

A group primarily of white parents from two neighborhoods sued in 2001, saying about 200 students were not admitted to the schools of their choice, preventing many from attending facilities nearest to their homes.

One school at the center of the controversy is Franklin High. Half of its roughly 1,500 students are Asian-American, a third are African-American, and about 7 percent are Hispanic. White enrollment dropped from 23 percent in 2000 to 10 percent last year.

The Seattle diversity plan was suspended while the appeals worked their way through the courts.

From the justices' comments during oral arguments and in the various written opinions, it was clear the legal sticking point was whether those diversity efforts represented a "compelling government interest."

The Bush administration supported the parents bringing suit against the choice plans. Solicitor General Paul Clement told the justices the two plans at issue represented "very stark racial quotas." He argued they were a "clear effort to get the schools to mimic the overall community" and that other "race-neutral" means to achieve classroom diversity should be used.





Now what will begin to happen is that instead of just being blatantly racist about it and just sending blacks to the same school, the states will begin redrawing school districts like they have done with voting districts. Black who now live and go to schools in primarily white districts will now find that their block is now part of a majority black school district. Historically we all know that majority black school districts receive less local, state and federal money for upkeep. After the redistricting is done you then then see state undertake "Budgetary Cost Cutting Measures" And The black districts will be told that their budgets are being cut as part of this cost saving measure. DO NOT THINK THAT THIS IS BULLSHIT. THIS RULING TODAY IS HISTORIC. WE ARE NOW GOING BACK TO WERE WE WERE BEFORE 1955. THIS IS TRULY A BAD DEVELOPMENT FOR AFRICAN-AMERICANS. DO NOT TAKE THIS LIGHTLY.
 
Bascially the high court struck down racially diversity in schools (K-12). Saying that race cannot be used to as a factor for determining a schools population.


Good catch Ultramag.
 
^exactly. How Can You Have Racial Diversity In Schools If You Can't Concider Race In Determining The Diversity Of A School?
 
Wow!!!!!!!!! This is the most serious shit that's happened in my lifetime as it relates to black folks. Essentially, Blacks folk have been set back 50 yrs with this decision. :( :angry: :angry:
 
No doubt, Clarence Uncle Thomas, voted along with the other bigoted bitches to kill it.
The only punk bitch I hate more than Dick "the AntiChrist" Chaney is that fuckin' sell-out house nigga who sits on the bench bug-eyed and drooling at the propect of licking massa's ass one mo time. :angry:
 
NYNets said:
Nobody should be suprised but those that truly wanna get educated will find a way.
this is bullshit. education is one of the most important things in this society and these faggots make it the hardest thing to achieve. this shit needs to get repealed and fast!!
 
As I said on the other post on this topic.

I'd like to hear what the Black Republicans think about this decision. I know many of them have achieved partially through afirmative action esque programs. And those who send their kids to public schools, generally make sure that they're schools outside of the inner city.

The reason they do this is because its clear that the level of education taught within the urban school districts don't compete with those of the white suburban districts. Reasons vary from property tax collected in a given community to the amount of students per school.

Either way the funding is ALWAYS higher per student outside the black neighborhoods. Now kids who were managing to escape only to later attack their own, can't even get out.

Where's Thurgood Marshall when you need him??
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I Believe Some Are Missing The Point Of This Ruling. Ever School District And Ever School Has A Quota On How Many Children Of A Certain Color Can Attend That School For Example (figures Are Not Accurate) 50 % White 35 % Black 9% Asian 6% Other). So Once The Quota Is Reached In Any Group There Can Be No More Admitted In That Group. I Think This Ruling Throws That Quota Shit Out And Makes It Possible For As Many As Needed From Any Group To Attend. This Ruling In No Way Is Taking Us Back To Segragation In Schools.
 
Well This Is Truly Fuck Up... It Is All The Young Folks Fault.. Being So Damn Fixated On The Bling.

I Mean Shyt I Knew Uncle Clarence Was Never One Of Us

But The Plm Is We Dont Have Anymore Super Black Heroes...all The Civil Rights Greats Are Either Dead...dying.. Got Alzhimer Or A Gold Diggin Opportunitst (see Al Sharpon And Jesse Jackson)

Now My Beef Is This.. If Education Is Bad.. Is It Because Of Brown Vs Brown Or Is It Because Lack Of A Fair Playing Field

In Atl... Which Is A Predominately Black City... The White Kids Goes To Private School And The One That Goes To A Public School Are In Buckhead And Mostly White Area.

I Really Dont Know What To Say Cuz This Is Disappointing To Hear
 
I don't see this as a big deal since kids naturally segregate themselves as is. Desegregation never worked they way it was intended to work. And for those who bellyache about young Black children getting lost in the gov't spending cracks because of this ruling should shut up and start taking it upon themselves to do right by their own.
 
Keep in mind, that all of this happening while there are more "blacks" in ELECTED political positions than any time in this countries history. :smh:
 
leemajors said:
Wow!!!!!!!!! This is the most serious shit that's happened in my lifetime as it relates to black folks. Essentially, Blacks folk have been set back 50 yrs with this decision. :( :angry: :angry:


My question is this...Why do we as African-Americans feel that we have to "De"segregate to feel that we are getting a quality education? Our own academic institutions have suffered tremendously, because 'we' feel that we must be like the 'other' man where life and education are concerned. 'We' have let our own academic institutions suffer tremendously, because 'we' felt that we could get a better education by attending desegregated schools...instead of looking for ways to better our own schools for our children and ethnic group. Schools like Howard, FAMU, etc., to name a few, have developed a very negative stigma when there was a time that they were among the elite of academia. We should not beg and/or kowtow to attend 'their' (White) schools...we should instead work to return our HBCUs and community schools to a level where they can become the envy of learning. We should become so good that the other ethnic groups will fight to attend our schools because the academic programs are just that good. Let 'them' have their schools...let 'us' build new/better institutions for our children that give them a REAL chance and succeeding in life.

We, as African-Americans, have failed our children by not taking care of our schools and holding our academians accountable. Instead, we let our schools get run down, and then want to send our kids to 'white' schools in the hope of getting them a better education. WE DON'T NEED THE WHITE MAN...WHAT WE DO NEED IS TO STAND ON OUR OWN, AND WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE OUR OWN INSTITUTIONS A 'MECCA' TO BE ENVIED. Just my opinion...
 
This ruling is not nation-wide, but the fear is it could lead to MORE school districts doing the same thing...like a domino effect. But yea, BS ruling...
 
I work in the public school system and young black folks don't want to get educated. Thats the sad part.
 
moblack said:
I work in the public school system and young black folks don't want to get educated. Thats the sad part.

^^cosign, them shits walk around like they folks owe them something, and they can do what they want, i talked to a few of them but thats was the cats that would listen while your talking, the other won't listen so, ya'll know how that goes
 
WU-SHU BOXER said:
My question is this...Why do we as African-Americans feel that we have to "De"segregate to feel that we are getting a quality education? Our own academic institutions have suffered tremendously, because 'we' feel that we must be like the 'other' man where life and education are concerned. 'We' have let our own academic institutions suffer tremendously, because 'we' felt that we could get a better education by attending desegregated schools...instead of looking for ways to better our own schools for our children and ethnic group. Schools like Howard, FAMU, etc., to name a few, have developed a very negative stigma when there was a time that they were among the elite of academia. We should not beg and/or kowtow to attend 'their' (White) schools...we should instead work to return our HBCUs and community schools to a level where they can become the envy of learning. We should become so good that the other ethnic groups will fight to attend our schools because the academic programs are just that good. Let 'them' have their schools...let 'us' build new/better institutions for our children that give them a REAL chance and succeeding in life.

We, as African-Americans, have failed our children by not taking care of our schools and holding our academians accountable. Instead, we let our schools get run down, and then want to send our kids to 'white' schools in the hope of getting them a better education. WE DON'T NEED THE WHITE MAN...WHAT WE DO NEED IS TO STAND ON OUR OWN, AND WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE OUR OWN INSTITUTIONS A 'MECCA' TO BE ENVIED. Just my opinion...


Public schools K-12 are funded by tax dollars. Dollars that come from the State, Federal, and local coffers. So in this case you do need the white man. Also the amount of funding which is divided between the districts is based on a multitude of criteria. For some odd reason, nearly every majority black school district in the country gets a lesser amount of funding inorder to educate their students.

This means black schools have less computers, less new books, a smaller selection of the teacher pool, and the list goes on. This seperate but equal doctrine that was proposed 50 years ago didn't fly with the Supreme Court because in no case were the educations equal. By denying schools the ability to deversify using racial background says to me their "trying it again".

OP
 
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Truthfully, desegregation was the worst thing to ever happen to Black people. It was like we stopped taking care of our own. But this is still fucked up.
 
WU-SHU BOXER said:
My question is this...Why do we as African-Americans feel that we have to "De"segregate to feel that we are getting a quality education? Our own academic institutions have suffered tremendously, because 'we' feel that we must be like the 'other' man where life and education are concerned. 'We' have let our own academic institutions suffer tremendously, because 'we' felt that we could get a better education by attending desegregated schools...instead of looking for ways to better our own schools for our children and ethnic group. Schools like Howard, FAMU, etc., to name a few, have developed a very negative stigma when there was a time that they were among the elite of academia. We should not beg and/or kowtow to attend 'their' (White) schools...we should instead work to return our HBCUs and community schools to a level where they can become the envy of learning. We should become so good that the other ethnic groups will fight to attend our schools because the academic programs are just that good. Let 'them' have their schools...let 'us' build new/better institutions for our children that give them a REAL chance and succeeding in life.

We, as African-Americans, have failed our children by not taking care of our schools and holding our academians accountable. Instead, we let our schools get run down, and then want to send our kids to 'white' schools in the hope of getting them a better education. WE DON'T NEED THE WHITE MAN...WHAT WE DO NEED IS TO STAND ON OUR OWN, AND WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE OUR OWN INSTITUTIONS A 'MECCA' TO BE ENVIED. Just my opinion...






Co\sign 200 %!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LET GO OF THE WHITE MAN'S NUTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Black people, rise up!!!!

We have to get it done..............







42] The political philosophy of black nationalism means that the black man should control the politics and the politicians in his own community; no more. The black man in the black community has to be re-educated into the science of politics so he will know what politics is supposed to bring him in return. Don't be throwing out any ballots. A ballot is like a bullet. You don't throw your ballots until you see a target, and if that target is not within your reach, keep your ballot in your pocket.

[43] The economic philosophy of black nationalism is pure and simple. It only means that we should control the economy of our community. Why should white people be running all the stores in our community? Why should white people be running the banks of our community? Why should the economy of our community be in the hands of the white man? Why? If a black man can't move his store into a white community, you tell me why a white man should move his store into a black community. The philosophy of black nationalism involves a re-education program in the black community in regards to economics. Our people have to be made to see that any time you take your dollar out of your community and spend it in a community where you don't live, the community where you live will get poorer and poorer, and the community where you spend your money will get richer and richer. Then you wonder why where you live is always a ghetto or a slum area. And where you and I are concerned, not only do we lose it when we spend it out of the community, but the white man has got all our stores in the community tied up; so that though we spend it in the community, at sundown the man who runs the store takes it over across town somewhere. He's got us in a vise.

[44] So the economic philosophy of black nationalism means in every church, in every civic organization, in every fraternal order, it's time now for our people to be come conscious of the importance of controlling the economy of our community. If we own the stores, if we operate the businesses, if we try and establish some industry in our own community, then we're developing to the position where we are creating employment for our own kind. Once you gain control of the economy of your own community, then you don't have to picket and boycott and beg some cracker downtown for a job in his business.
[45] The social philosophy of black nationalism only means that we have to get together and remove the evils, the vices, alcoholism, drug addiction, and other evils that are destroying the moral fiber of our community. We our selves have to lift the level of our community, the standard of our community to a higher level, make our own society beautiful so that we will be satisfied in our own social circles and won't be running around here trying to knock our way into a social circle where we're not wanted.

[46] So I say, in spreading a gospel such as black nationalism, it is not designed to make the black man re-evaluate the white man -- you know him already -- but to make the black man re-evaluate himself. Don't change the white man's mind -- you can't change his mind, and that whole thing about appealing to the moral conscience of America -- America's conscience is bankrupt. She lost all conscience a long time ago. Uncle Sam has no conscience. They don't know what morals are. They don't try and eliminate an evil because it's evil, or because it's illegal, or because it's immoral; they eliminate it only when it threatens their existence. So you're wasting your time appealing to the moral conscience of a bankrupt man like Uncle Sam. If he had a conscience, he'd straighten this thing out with no more pressure being put upon him. So it is not necessary to change the white man's mind. We have to change our own mind. You can't change his mind about us. We've got to change our own minds about each other. We have to see each other with new eyes. We have to see each other as brothers and sisters. We have to come together with warmth so we can develop unity and harmony that's necessary to get this problem solved our selves.


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Obadiah Plainman said:
Public schools K-12 are funded by tax dollars. Dollars that come from the State, Federal, and local coffers. So in this case you do need the white man. Also the amount of funding which is divided between the districts is based on a multitude of criteria. For some odd reason, nearly every majority black school district in the country gets a lesser amount of funding inorder to educate their students.

This means black shools have less computers, less new books, a smaller selection of the teacher pool, and the list goes on. This seperate but equal doctrine that was proposed 50 years ago didn't fly with the Supreme Court because in no case were the educations equal. By denying schools the ability to deversify using racial background says to me their "trying it again".

OP




The next lawsuit should be "Equal Funding"

Fuck integration, just give us equal funding which is equal treatment under the law.

We black people will get the rest done.

Cuba has one of the highest ratio of doctors per capita. They do that shit with less and WITHOUT THE WHITE MAN!!!!!

I went to school and had to sit with 4 other children on a bench, sharing books and shit. Today no one can fuck with me in my job where intelligence is concerned.

When shit is tough you have to toughen up!!!

What is the problem with black people in this country????


This shit gets me so mad...........

You grew up on "Lincoln freed the slaves"

What????

Are you waiting for another Lincoln (white man)??????

Your foreparents fought and die. Get that in your thick skulls. Black people fought and died for your freedoms. Soldiers get medals and respect and we spit on the sacrifices of our own?????

Stop begging!!!!!

Let work to get this shit done............
 
kayanation said:
The next lawsuit should be "Equal Funding"

Fuck integration, just give us equal funding which is equal treatment under the law.

We black people will get the rest done.

Cuba has one of the highest ratio of doctors per capita. They do that shit with less and WITHOUT THE WHITE MAN!!!!!

I went to school and had to sit with 4 other children on a bench, sharing books and shit. Today no one can fuck with me in my job where intelligence is concerned.

When shit is tough you have to toughen up!!!

What is the problem with black people in this country????


This shit gets me so mad...........

You grew up on "Lincoln freed the slaves"

What????

Are you waiting for another Lincoln (white man)??????

Your foreparents fought and die. Get that in your thick skulls. Black people fought and died for your freedoms. Soldiers get medals and respect and we spit on the sacrifices of our own?????

Stop begging!!!!!

Let work to get this shit done............


Kayanation, you seem to gloss over the main point of my post.


I don't think you understand where I'm coming from or the issue here. The reason there was a Brown vs the Board of Education wasn't because blacks wanted so much to intergrate with whites. The reason intergration in schools exist and Blacks faught for it is because the States never did "equally fund" black schools as promised.

Thats what I'd like you to first get through your skull. The law before B vs BE was that blacks will get the same quality of education because the state will follow the same procedures in providing funding for education. Welp that never happend. And urban districts aren't getting the same level of funding per student today either.

So the Supreme Court ruled that blacks and whites should be forced or allowed to go to the same schools, which will insure they recieve the identical levels of education. Yesterday's ruling argues that even the mere mention of race in making decisions regarding the diverse selection of students in these two districts is unconstitutional.

My point Kaya is that this could be the beginning of the resegregation of American Public schools which is potentially devistating to the black community.

I do see your point. We can do it all ourselves etc.... That sounds great, but reality check sir. Blacks who graduate college get decent jobs leave the inner city and so does the tax money. Black flight has destroyed the tax bases in urban school districts, so these schools have no choice but to lean on the state , inorder to stay open.

Also Schools in even the richest communities in America depend on the Government for funding (thats why they are called public schools).
 
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Obadiah Plainman said:
Kayanation, you seem to gloss over the main point of my post.


I don't think you understand where I'm coming from or the issue here. The reason there was a Brown vs the Board of Education wasn't because blacks wanted so much to intergrate with whites. The reason intergration in schools exist and Blacks faught for it is because the States never did "equally fund" black schools as promised.

Thats what I'd like you to first get through your skull. The law before B vs BE was that blacks will get the same quality of education because the state will follow the same procedures in providing funding for education. Welp that never happend. And urban districts aren't getting the same level of funding per student today either.

So the Supreme Court ruled that blacks and whites should be forced or allowed to go to the same schools, which will insure they recieve the identical levels of education. Yesterday's this ruling argues that even the mere mention of race in making decisions regarding the diverse selection of students in these two districts is unconstitutional.

My point Kaya is that this could be the beginning of the resegration of American Public schools which is possibly devistating to the black community.

I do see your point. We can do it all ourselves etc.... That sounds great, but reality check sir. Blacks who graduate college get decent jobs leave the inner city and so does the tax money. Black flight has destroyed the tax bases in urban school districts, so these schools have no choice but to lean on the state , inorder to stay open.

Also Schools in even the richest communities in America depend on the Government for funding (thats why they are called public schools).


I agreed with you sir............

What I am saying is that WE HAVE TO STOP MAKING EXCUSES WHY WE CAN'T RUN OUR OWN SCHOOLS!!!!!

Import Indian workers if we have to............ get the shit done...........


We all have a social responsibility to the black community.

Those who wish to leave, good riddance.

Motherfucker sign up for the army and die for the country but scared to die in the hood??????

Could you explain that logic??????


:smh:

Enough of the fucking excuses black people.............. let us get this shit done.
 
kayanation said:
I agreed with you sir............

What I am saying is that WE HAVE TO STOP MAKING EXCUSES WHY WE CAN'T RUN OUR OWN SCHOOLS!!!!!

Import Indian workers if we have to............ get the shit done...........


We all have a social responsibility to the black community.

Those who wish to leave, good riddance.

Motherfucker sign up for the army and die for the country but scared to die in the hood??????

Could you explain that logic??????


:smh:

Enough of the fucking excuses black people.............. let us get this shit done.


In many of the larger urban cities Blacks do run the school districts. And some still fail. Its not an excuse to say we get less funding therefore our schools suck. Its the truth.

"Those who wish to leave, good riddance."

What??

The black middle class are almost the most important residents in the urban community. They are the catalyst to success, they are the bar with which we want to point, they are the leaders and examples you want children to strive for. The problem is not enough African American people realize their value. They have paved they way, and you want to simply hand them over. Thats like training a prize fighter here in America and simply allowing him to fight for China or Russia, or even Canada makes no sense.

There was a study done some years ago which followed how money was made and how it was and spent. In it you see a break down of how different communities in America, Asian, Black, Hispanic, and Whites spend their money.
Money earned by whites primarily stayed in the hands, stores, banks, and churches in predominently white neighborhoods.

The black dollar seemed to stay within the black community less than one cycle. Meaning it was earned then spent once in the black community and immediately returned to the others. This explains alot.

I feel your eagarness, but whos going to pay for those Indian teachers? Where will you be if the educated black class continues to abandon the inner city. I think if you really want to educate your children, you'd better realize demanding equality is not begging.
 
theblast said:
Truthfully, desegregation was the worst thing to ever happen to Black people. It was like we stopped taking care of our own. But this is still fucked up.

Do you really believe that?

I wouldn't go nearly that far. True segregation forced a unity among blacks unseen in decades, sure integration has aided in the destruction of the urban community. But would you really want America to be the only nation on Earth which have colored/white restrooms? Would you really want your entire life to be at the behest of overseer's? Would you really enjoy genuine or implied threats for making eye contact with white women or speaking your mind outloud?

Do you actually believe second class citizenship would enrich your life?
 
moblack said:
I work in the public school system and young black folks don't want to get educated. Thats the sad part.

This shit right here is the saddest truth I’ve seen in a long time. IMO, the ruling in no way sets black kids back. The responsibility should fall to the parents to make sure that their kid is educated and has scores high enough to get into the school of their choice. Stop falling back on affirmative action to get you into places and start relying on hard work and being better prepared.
 
Alumni said:
This shit right here is the saddest truth I’ve seen in a long time. IMO, the ruling in no way sets black kids back. The responsibility should fall to the parents to make sure that their kid is educated and has scores high enough to get into the school of their choice. Stop falling back on affirmative action to get you into places and start relying on hard work and being better prepared.


How is this ruling related to Affirmative Action?
 
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Kayanation all this militant talk from you. I must ask the question have you ever volunteered in a black school or how you joined big brothers? Have any of you guys? If the answer is no stfu. Talking on a message board is easy to do. Do like me and go work at a black school to make a difference.
 
White Man Wins....We can forget about a lost genaration....That ruling will lead to a less educated/lost people.
 
people are suprised? when will most minorities get the hint... whites dont want to be around us. they keep developing suburbs and raising the price of real estate to keep us out. they build expensive malls and restaurants cuz they know most of us cant afford it. racism is alive and well, but white people dont see it that way
 
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