**Blair gets bold on UK brothas**

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/story/0,,2055148,00.html

Tony Blair yesterday claimed the spate of knife and gun murders in London was not being caused by poverty, but a distinctive black culture. His remarks angered community leaders, who accused him of ignorance and failing to provide support for black-led efforts to tackle the problem.One accused him of misunderstanding the advice he had been given on the issue at a Downing Street summit.

Black community leaders reacted after Mr Blair said the recent violence should not be treated as part of a general crime wave, but as specific to black youth. He said people had to drop their political correctness and recognise that the violence would not be stopped "by pretending it is not young black kids doing it".

It needed to be addressed by a tailored counter-attack in the same way as football hooliganism was reined in by producing measures aimed at the specific problem, rather than general lawlessness.Mr Blair's remarks are at odds with those of the Home Office minister Lady Scotland, who told the home affairs select committee last month that the disproportionate number of black youths in the criminal justice system was a function of their disproportionate poverty, and not to do with a distinctive black culture.

Giving the Callaghan lecture in Cardiff, the prime minister admitted he had been "lurching into total frankness" in the final weeks of his premiership. He called on black people to lead the fight against knife crime. He said that "the black community - the vast majority of whom in these communities are decent, law abiding people horrified at what is happening - need to be mobilised in denunciation of this gang culture that is killing innocent young black kids".

Mr Blair said he had been moved to make his controversial remarks after speaking to a black pastor of a London church at a Downing Street knife crime summit, who said: "When are we going to start saying this is a problem amongst a section of the black community and not, for reasons of political correctness, pretend that this is nothing to do with it?" Mr Blair said there needed to be an "intense police focus" on the minority of young black Britons behind the gun and knife attacks. The laws on knife and gun gangs needed to be toughened and the ringleaders "taken out of circulation".

Last night, British African-Caribbean figures leading the fight against gang culture condemned Mr Blair's speech. The Rev Nims Obunge, chief executive of the Peace Alliance, one of the main organisations working against gang crime, denounced the prime minister.

Mr Obunge, who attended the Downing Street summit chaired by Mr Blair in February, said he had been cited by the prime minister: "He makes it look like I said it's the black community doing it. What I said is it's making the black community more vulnerable and they need more support and funding for the work they're doing. ... He has taken what I said out of context. We came for support and he has failed and has come back with more police powers to use against our black children."

Keith Jarrett, chair of the National Black Police Association, whose members work with vulnerable youngsters, said: "Social deprivation and delinquency go hand in hand and we need to tackle both. It is curious that the prime minister does not mention deprivation in his speech."

Lee Jasper, adviser on policing to London's mayor, said: "For years we have said this is an issue the black community has to deal with. The PM is spectacularly ill-informed if he thinks otherwise.

"Every home secretary from [David] Blunkett onwards has been pressed on tackling the growing phenomenon of gun and gang crime in deprived black communities, and government has failed to respond to what has been a clear demand for additional resources to tackle youth alienation and disaffection".

The Home Office has already announced it is looking at the possibility of banning membership of gangs, tougher enforcement of the supposed mandatory five-year sentences for possession of illegal firearms, and lowering the age from 21 to 18 for this mandatory sentence.

Answering questions later Mr Blair said: "Economic inequality is a factor and we should deal with that, but I don't think it's the thing that is producing the most violent expression of this social alienation.

"I think that is to do with the fact that particular youngsters are being brought up in a setting that has no rules, no discipline, no proper framework around them."

Some people working with children knew at the age of five whether they were going to be in "real trouble" later, he said.

Mr Blair is known to believe the tendency for many black boys to be raised in families without a father leads to a lack of appropriate role models.

He said: "We need to stop thinking of this as a society that has gone wrong - it has not - but of specific groups that for specific reasons have gone outside of the proper lines of respect and good conduct towards others and need by specific measures to be brought back into the fold."

The Commission for Racial Equality broadly backed Mr Blair, saying people "shouldn't be afraid to talk about this issue for fear of sounding prejudiced".

Mr Blair spoke out as a second teenager was due to appear in court charged with the murder of 14-year-old Paul Erhahon, stabbed to death in east London on Friday. He was the seventh Londoner under 16 to be murdered since the end of January, and his 15-year-old friend, who was also stabbed, remains in hospital.
 
Why was it necessary to identify race...why not instead just name the areas where the crimes are occurring primarily and speak to the political leaders repping that area...whenever we are involved they are always quick to label it a Black issue or "Black culture"...when it's them no labels/stereotypes are thrown around...very tactless...
 
what a freaking idiot these crackaz are always quick to add race to crime . If they want to add race to crime thats no problem they better start calling paedophiles a white problem and mass murder a white problem
 
Leroy Soup Nutz said:
Why was it necessary to identify race...why not instead just name the areas where the crimes are occurring primarily and speak to the political leaders repping that area...whenever we are involved they are always quick to label it a Black issue or "Black culture"...when it's them no labels/stereotypes are thrown around...very tactless...
what do you expect man

dumb fuck crackas are showing thier asses lately making dumb racialy charged comments, and expecting little to no reprisals

he figures he's out soon, so fuck it
 
Black people keep take-in an L world wide. I mean if it’s not over here it’s in Africa or south America. I live in a fuckin white ass state Minnesota and I can’t watch my local news without seeing some nigga robbing and shooting shitup for fuckin $156. am not saying I agree with what this man is saying am sayin it’s getting harder and harder to defend. Btw does any body know what the crime stats are by race in England?
 
That's cool.

Well allow ME to "lurch into total frankness" . . .


I BLAME the spate of 90 % hegemonic imperial genocide perpetrated in the world throughout history on white people, their self hate and subsequent

GREED, and BLOOD LUST for WAR. NOW there's facts to back this up . . .


Blair
"I think that is to do with the fact that particular youngsters <---(replace with the words "white people") are being brought up in a setting that has no rules, no discipline, no proper framework around them."
Couldn't agree more
Hahahahaaa I'm stultified at this "blokes" . . . "honesty". He's killing me!


Blair
He said: "We need to stop thinking of this as a society that has gone wrong - it has not - but of specific groups that for specific reasons have gone outside of the proper lines of respect and good conduct towards others and need by specific measures to be brought back into the fold."
Yes, yes, yes. Splendid 'crack' leadership here. The world would benefit chiefly IF white people decided to join the human race . . Yes, correct on all points . . full stop!

Word? Say on, say on . . .


The Guardian
The Commission for Racial Equality broadly backed Mr Blair, saying people "shouldn't be afraid to talk about this issue for fear of sounding prejudiced".


Yeah, right. Of course they did. How much you wanna bet, this "commission" is formed and head counted by "blue blooded wasp's" . . and a couple darkies for "color" and "measure". Mustn't seem too out of touch . . as it were. (In my worst English accent).
This is the wildest shit. A commission for racial equality, by . . . WHITE IMPERIALISTS . . . . . . .WHAT'S NEXT??? . . . the MILLION KLAN MARCH????

Maaaaannnnnn, white folks kill me . . . AND YOU, AND YOU, AND YOU. . . :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'd like to have been on Downing street . . .BUT, I'm likely to have gotten "THE ROYAL TREATMENT", as it were.

FUCK OUTTA HERE . . . AND "FUCK EARL GREY" & "TOAST BURNED ON ONE SIDE."

Sorry, my humor is a little "wry" this morning . . Must be all that ORBIT gum I've been chewing on of late. .

(Repicated from similar thread)

JG
 
Tony B-Liar has no more power, his prime minister-shit is nearly up
[as hes been forced out] but his party remains in power and will more
than likely be succeeded by the guy in number 11.

now as for the gun / knife crime over here, its most definetly not
just black kids doing this..its all the races of kids caught out there.
and bought up on a life of MTV and grime, bullshit parents, and playstation
and xbox games. for years they have been slipping into their own subculture
of gangs of robots and wannabe's, who feel totally disconnected from mainstream
society and have lost the two main survival tools of any young person: a dream
and individuality. without those two things its almost impossible for a kid to reach 25.

eveyday, in my head, i pray for the youth, and i hope god is listening and isnt
too busy banging mrs.god.
 
Fuck him.....blacks have been whipping boys for years and nothing will change this until we become JEW-LIKE.....NYC knows how they do!!
 
TEN said:
Tony B-Liar has no more power, his prime minister-shit is nearly up
[as hes been forced out] but his party remains in power and will more
than likely be succeeded by the guy in number 11.

now as for the gun / knife crime over here, its most definetly not
just black kids doing this..its all the races of kids caught out there.
and bought up on a life of MTV and grime, bullshit parents, and playstation
and xbox games. for years they have been slipping into their own subculture
of gangs of robots and wannabe's, who feel totally disconnected from mainstream
society and have lost the two main survival tools of any young person: a dream
and individuality. without those two things its almost impossible for a kid to reach 25.

eveyday, in my head, i pray for the youth, and i hope god is listening and isnt
too busy banging mrs.god.

Thankz for the nfo TEN......hopefully this story will put shit in perspective for some of the narrow minded thugz and knuckelheaded brothaz in the US......

THE DEVIL'Z IN FULL EFFECT WORLDWIDE!!!!....SO BROTHAZ NEED TO UNITE WORLDWIDE!....

TEN said:
god is listening and isnt
too busy banging mrs.god.


Not so worried 'bout GOD gettin' his fuck on he's still gone get back wit' you...just worried 'bout the DEVIL trying to fuck us out of existence...nuff said.

Bush has no real power except his fake war...Blair has no power except his party is still in power.....

These are the times we really need to be alert....these mofo's have nothing to lose now....nuff said
 
The problem is the UK is that we follow America and Jamaica a little too much in terms of what Black manhood is about. When I say that I aint talking about being like men from Morehouse College but more like being whatever the latest version of Fiddy or Shabba is.

When I was a kid I used to get ripped for being AFrican and true is that the black kids were worse than the whites at my school because it was cool to be American or Jamaican but not African. Public Enemy, X-Clan etc changed all that.

My point is that as black men we never had a clear idea of what a British Black Man was meant to be about and when you import modern ciulture its the MTV culture as mentioned before that gets promoted over the middle class, college going culture. Look at Fresh Prince... better to be Will than Carlton!

Even our music tended to be derivative US/JamJam copies. Every wave of NWA or gun based dancehall swept over us and we took it in.

Truly, we were poor as fuck in the UK from when I was a pup vbut in the 70's we all hated whites and the police. By the time gangasta rap came through we were hating each other way too much. All that playa hating, nigga this nigga that shit came in.

Now its true that since I was a yute the UK has become a fucking zoo. Black kids have gone a little bit money mad and crazy but the white kids and Indian/Pakistani kids are crazy mofos too. Everyone is a fucking hard man.

The key thing Blair is doing is telling it like it is in that we, the black community CANNOT afford it. White British society can. Don't believe me? Go to the UK and see. It tells you alot that the guy can only tell it like this because he's leaving the job. Everyone just wants to hide behind it. Kids have been shot in a crowded MacDonalds and Streatham Ice Rink in the last few weeks. That shot NEVER happened in public before.

Compared to the States the UK is still like Disneyland in comparison but it cannot afford to get any worse than it has become for black youths. Its not about poverty because Gypsies are fucking poor and they don't stab each other. The same is true for Bangladeshis in East London and every other poor minority.

Black people have been in the UK long enough to know better and do better. If even none of us have a pot to piss in it ain't about stabbing and shooting each other over gang shot at age 15,16 over what? Who runs your piss stenched block.

I got cousins in Africa who would give their right arm to get a free English education and get the papers to get to US,Canada anywhere. Its dumb taht such a great country - with its racist element but still a great country - is the site of such a "disapointing" situation.

I give Blair applause for having the belated balls to call out the Black community which lacks the kind of leadership - through one recognisable strong leader - that it requires.
 
SydneyMan said:
The problem is the UK is that we follow America and Jamaica a little too much in terms of what Black manhood is about. When I say that I aint talking about being like men from Morehouse College but more like being whatever the latest version of Fiddy or Shabba is.

When I was a kid I used to get ripped for being AFrican and true is that the black kids were worse than the whites at my school because it was cool to be American or Jamaican but not African. Public Enemy, X-Clan etc changed all that.

My point is that as black men we never had a clear idea of what a British Black Man was meant to be about and when you import modern ciulture its the MTV culture as mentioned before that gets promoted over the middle class, college going culture. Look at Fresh Prince... better to be Will than Carlton!

Even our music tended to be derivative US/JamJam copies. Every wave of NWA or gun based dancehall swept over us and we took it in.

Truly, we were poor as fuck in the UK from when I was a pup vbut in the 70's we all hated whites and the police. By the time gangasta rap came through we were hating each other way too much. All that playa hating, nigga this nigga that shit came in.

Now its true that since I was a yute the UK has become a fucking zoo. Black kids have gone a little bit money mad and crazy but the white kids and Indian/Pakistani kids are crazy mofos too. Everyone is a fucking hard man.

The key thing Blair is doing is telling it like it is in that we, the black community CANNOT afford it. White British society can. Don't believe me? Go to the UK and see. It tells you alot that the guy can only tell it like this because he's leaving the job. Everyone just wants to hide behind it. Kids have been shot in a crowded MacDonalds and Streatham Ice Rink in the last few weeks. That shot NEVER happened in public before.

Compared to the States the UK is still like Disneyland in comparison but it cannot afford to get any worse than it has become for black youths. Its not about poverty because Gypsies are fucking poor and they don't stab each other. The same is true for Bangladeshis in East London and every other poor minority.

Black people have been in the UK long enough to know better and do better. If even none of us have a pot to piss in it ain't about stabbing and shooting each other over gang shot at age 15,16 over what? Who runs your piss stenched block.

I got cousins in Africa who would give their right arm to get a free English education and get the papers to get to US,Canada anywhere. Its dumb taht such a great country - with its racist element but still a great country - is the site of such a "disapointing" situation.

I give Blair applause for having the belated balls to call out the Black community which lacks the kind of leadership - through one recognisable strong leader - that it requires.


"Its not about poverty because Gypsies are fucking poor and they don't stab each other. The same is true for Bangladeshis in East London and every other poor minority."

You are right:

Who is the Gypsies' God????

Who is the Bangladeshi's God?????

Who is the Black Man's God??????
 
SydneyMan said:
The problem is the UK is that we follow America and Jamaica a little too much in terms of what Black manhood is about. When I say that I aint talking about being like men from Morehouse College but more like being whatever the latest version of Fiddy or Shabba is.

When I was a kid I used to get ripped for being AFrican and true is that the black kids were worse than the whites at my school because it was cool to be American or Jamaican but not African. Public Enemy, X-Clan etc changed all that.

My point is that as black men we never had a clear idea of what a British Black Man was meant to be about and when you import modern ciulture its the MTV culture as mentioned before that gets promoted over the middle class, college going culture. Look at Fresh Prince... better to be Will than Carlton!

Even our music tended to be derivative US/JamJam copies. Every wave of NWA or gun based dancehall swept over us and we took it in.

Truly, we were poor as fuck in the UK from when I was a pup vbut in the 70's we all hated whites and the police. By the time gangasta rap came through we were hating each other way too much. All that playa hating, nigga this nigga that shit came in.

Now its true that since I was a yute the UK has become a fucking zoo. Black kids have gone a little bit money mad and crazy but the white kids and Indian/Pakistani kids are crazy mofos too. Everyone is a fucking hard man.

The key thing Blair is doing is telling it like it is in that we, the black community CANNOT afford it. White British society can. Don't believe me? Go to the UK and see. It tells you alot that the guy can only tell it like this because he's leaving the job. Everyone just wants to hide behind it. Kids have been shot in a crowded MacDonalds and Streatham Ice Rink in the last few weeks. That shot NEVER happened in public before.

Compared to the States the UK is still like Disneyland in comparison but it cannot afford to get any worse than it has become for black youths. Its not about poverty because Gypsies are fucking poor and they don't stab each other. The same is true for Bangladeshis in East London and every other poor minority.

Black people have been in the UK long enough to know better and do better. If even none of us have a pot to piss in it ain't about stabbing and shooting each other over gang shot at age 15,16 over what? Who runs your piss stenched block.

I got cousins in Africa who would give their right arm to get a free English education and get the papers to get to US,Canada anywhere. Its dumb taht such a great country - with its racist element but still a great country - is the site of such a "disapointing" situation.

I give Blair applause for having the belated balls to call out the Black community which lacks the kind of leadership - through one recognisable strong leader - that it requires.

As a brotha born and raised in the States....I really appreciate your incite in the way breakin' your view down more of this is needed for the benefit of us all.....thankz

PS. I have been out of the US several times so it's refreshing to see real perspective in your reply and not propogandized, or skew'd perspective.
 
SydneyMan said:
Black people have been in the UK long enough to know better and do better. If even none of us have a pot to piss in it ain't about stabbing and shooting each other over gang shot at age 15,16 over what? Who runs your piss stenched block.

I got cousins in Africa who would give their right arm to get a free English education and get the papers to get to US,Canada anywhere. Its dumb that such a great country - with its racist element but still a great country - is the site of such a "disapointing" situation.

I give Blair applause for having the belated balls to call out the Black community which lacks the kind of leadership - through one recognisable strong leader - that it requires.

I hear what you're saying . . . and honestly I have to say I respect your opinion in that there is considerable rationale behind it.

But I say bolox, and here's WHY. . Here are several examples, that may shed some clarity and broaden your perspective . . since you live in Europe.

Last year . . . I'm sure you got a whiff of the riots and what not that took place in FRANCE over the labor laws that Premier Chirac implemented, but were subsequently overturned out of national protest, strikes, and rebellion. Jobs and opportunities are highly valued, the more scarce. These opportunities are passed onto whites in an EXTREMELY disproportionate numbers . . which foments hostilities. This is a pattern that you can set your watch by . . . classic.(Also, this is a brief explanation . . . 'cause I have to get to work.)

The Algerian population is 'tucked away' from mainstream society so as to be HIDDEN from the view of whites. The very 'whites' who have a 'familiar' contempt for the Algerians. It has been going on so long that a flash point was been reached . . . and they tore that mutherfucker UP!

**By the way, I put whites in quotes because skin ISN'T the ONLY characteristic that make one 'white'.

Consider this. The Black Africans (I ABSOLUTELY HATE THAT "AFRICANS" MEANING BLACK, NOW HAS TO BE QUALIFIED :angry: :angry: but I digress) and the Algerians have had to live under the VERY same conditions of oppression as Africans, Jamaicans , the Bangladeshi, and Pakistanis in the U.K.

That very same pattern can be seen VISCERALLY in Australia with regard the the Aboriginals there. And, of course, here in the U.S. and South Africa, AND South America. Are you beginning to see my point? IN ALL cases, every lat one of them, preferential treatment and opportunity have been issued to 'so called whites' as a practice. This has over time had ITS' impact. At some point that RAGE builds and unleashes, either 'internally' or 'externally'.

You are CORRECT when you say 'Blacks' can't 'AFFORD' this behavior . . .

While it is ALSO true that the violence is abhorrent. The ECONOMIC TRUTH that is the REAL culprit CAN NOT AND SHOULD NOT BE IGNORED . . These 'black' youth may not be able to articulate the source of their angst . . . but to be scapegoated WHILE the 'white power' elite are ASSUAGED, and RELIEVED of their role in this condition after such political, educational, and economic disenfranchisement spanning centuries is fucking repugnant, and perniciously CRIMINAL, CRIMINAL, CRIMINAL.



It's not racial . . it's economic.

Let me continue in conclusion.


The white power structure maintains the status quo by dis-enfranchisement vis-a-vis uniform and institutionalized racism and discriminatory practices.

'WE' internalize this, because the white structure is 'protected' and 'insulated' by their relative wealth and power . . The police are there to INSURE THIS . . NOT to serve the larger public . . . they protect property.

I don't suggest violence . . . BUT I certainly DON'T accept that 'blacks' should be in the practice of DYING SILENTLY, AND VOICELESSLY. What say you to this 'SYDNEY MAN'? How much "APPLAUSE" are you willing to give to such . . ."LEADERSHIP"?

When was the last time ANYONE witnessed a person of 'means' perform a 'drive by' :confused: :confused: :confused:

"APPLAUD" you say . . . I think you're trippin' just a scosch
JG
 
I have been on a real "Fuck white people" mood lately with Imus, The NFL backlash & crackers acting like they were wronged in the duke trial. But I took a step back and looked at what blair is saying and I cant get mad. The truth is the truth no matter who say's it. IF and I do mean IF his point is to stop dancing around the issue and make a concerted effort to thwart the problem where it starts and ends and not waste money and resources ducking the real cause then I agree with him.
 
CobraKai said:
I have been on a real "Fuck white people" mood lately with Imus, The NFL backlash & crackers acting like they were wronged in the duke trial. But I took a step back and looked at what blair is saying and I cant get mad. The truth is the truth no matter who say's it. IF and I do mean IF his point is to stop dancing around the issue and make a concerted effort to thwart the problem where it starts and ends and not waste money and resources ducking the real cause then I agree with him.

:smh: :smh: :smh: :smh: :hmm:

Your opinion is serious.....? :hmm:

Question are you UK African...or African American or even BLACK?
 
We in the UK are witnessing a major trend in gun/knife crime which is being commited by black & white kids but the majority of the focus is highlighted on the black teens,but to be brutally honest with you it seems to be rising at a steady rate which is quite alarming but none the less true.I deal with youth's like the one's i mention on a weekly basis as i mentor in an area of west london governed by Brent council so i get to hear stories of hardship and misunderstandings on a regular basis and i must say that not having a father figure may be a factor for these young men but not the defining one.
 
Article is biased, they left out

“The black community - the vast majority of whom in these communities are decent, law-abiding people horrified at what is happening - need to be mobilized in denunciation of this gang culture that is killing innocent young black kids,” he said.

“But we won’t stop this by pretending it isn’t young black kids doing it,” he added.

“Most young black boys are not involved in knife and gun gangs,” he added.

“What we are dealing with is not a general social disorder, but specific groups or people who for one reason or another are deciding not to abide by the same code of conduct as the rest of us,” he said.
 
SydneyMan said:
The problem is the UK is that we follow America and Jamaica a little too much in terms of what Black manhood is about. When I say that I aint talking about being like men from Morehouse College but more like being whatever the latest version of Fiddy or Shabba is.

When I was a kid I used to get ripped for being AFrican and true is that the black kids were worse than the whites at my school because it was cool to be American or Jamaican but not African. Public Enemy, X-Clan etc changed all that.

My point is that as black men we never had a clear idea of what a British Black Man was meant to be about and when you import modern ciulture its the MTV culture as mentioned before that gets promoted over the middle class, college going culture. Look at Fresh Prince... better to be Will than Carlton!

Even our music tended to be derivative US/JamJam copies. Every wave of NWA or gun based dancehall swept over us and we took it in.

Truly, we were poor as fuck in the UK from when I was a pup vbut in the 70's we all hated whites and the police. By the time gangasta rap came through we were hating each other way too much. All that playa hating, nigga this nigga that shit came in.

Now its true that since I was a yute the UK has become a fucking zoo. Black kids have gone a little bit money mad and crazy but the white kids and Indian/Pakistani kids are crazy mofos too. Everyone is a fucking hard man.

The key thing Blair is doing is telling it like it is in that we, the black community CANNOT afford it. White British society can. Don't believe me? Go to the UK and see. It tells you alot that the guy can only tell it like this because he's leaving the job. Everyone just wants to hide behind it. Kids have been shot in a crowded MacDonalds and Streatham Ice Rink in the last few weeks. That shot NEVER happened in public before.

Compared to the States the UK is still like Disneyland in comparison but it cannot afford to get any worse than it has become for black youths. Its not about poverty because Gypsies are fucking poor and they don't stab each other. The same is true for Bangladeshis in East London and every other poor minority.

Black people have been in the UK long enough to know better and do better. If even none of us have a pot to piss in it ain't about stabbing and shooting each other over gang shot at age 15,16 over what? Who runs your piss stenched block.

I got cousins in Africa who would give their right arm to get a free English education and get the papers to get to US,Canada anywhere. Its dumb taht such a great country - with its racist element but still a great country - is the site of such a "disapointing" situation.

I give Blair applause for having the belated balls to call out the Black community which lacks the kind of leadership - through one recognisable strong leader - that it requires.

I should make this post my new sig. You wouldn't believe how many dumb negroes who say rap has nothing to do with influencing youth. (XXXplosive where are you? LOL) I know i'm not from the U.K. but I was watching the BBC and they said how gangs use rap to comminicate and try to base their lifestyle from what they see rapper do. Excellent post.
 
Chase Bannon said:
I should make this post my new sig. You wouldn't believe how many dumb negroes who say rap has nothing to do with influencing youth. (XXXplosive where are you? LOL) I know i'm not from the U.K. but I was watching the BBC and they said how gangs use rap to comminicate and try to base their lifestyle from what they see rapper do. Excellent post.

Please keep my name out of your mouth, house nigga.
 
CobraKai said:
I have been on a real "Fuck white people" mood lately with Imus, The NFL backlash & crackers acting like they were wronged in the duke trial. But I took a step back and looked at what blair is saying and I cant get mad. The truth is the truth no matter who say's it. IF and I do mean IF his point is to stop dancing around the issue and make a concerted effort to thwart the problem where it starts and ends and not waste money and resources ducking the real cause then I agree with him.





You are so right...................but you don't know it........




Sub-Saharan Africa, one of the last regions of the world largely untouched by "informal imperialism" and "civilization", was also attractive to Europe's ruling elites for economic and racial reasons. During a time when Britain's balance of trade showed a growing deficit, with shrinking and increasingly protectionist continental markets due to the Long Depression (1873-1896), Africa offered Britain, Germany, France, and other countries an open market that would garner it a trade surplus: a market that bought more from the metropole than it sold overall..


Another inducement to imperialism, of course, arose from the demand for raw materials unavailable in Europe, especially copper, cotton, rubber, tea, and tin, to which European consumers had grown accustomed and upon which European industry had grown dependent.

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European claims in Africa, 1914


Now they want African the world over to sit still while they enjoy the spoils?????????

Now they claim to be civilised???????? So all those African lives meant nothing?????


Well Africa's blood is on their hands!!!!!!!!!!


Look at this shit..........


June 24, 1989, Saturday
By SHEILA RULE, SPECIAL TO THE NEW YORK TIMES (NYT)

Despite consistent opposition from Mrs. Thatcher, the European Community has imposed economic sanctions on South Africa to force it to dismantle apartheid, and radical opponents of the South African Government have insisted on a full embargo.




Now Britain want to take the moral high raod??????

Payback is a bitch................
 
SydneyMan said:
The problem is the UK is that we follow America and Jamaica a little too much in terms of what Black manhood is about. When I say that I aint talking about being like men from Morehouse College but more like being whatever the latest version of Fiddy or Shabba is.

When I was a kid I used to get ripped for being AFrican and true is that the black kids were worse than the whites at my school because it was cool to be American or Jamaican but not African. Public Enemy, X-Clan etc changed all that.

My point is that as black men we never had a clear idea of what a British Black Man was meant to be about and when you import modern ciulture its the MTV culture as mentioned before that gets promoted over the middle class, college going culture. Look at Fresh Prince... better to be Will than Carlton!

Even our music tended to be derivative US/JamJam copies. Every wave of NWA or gun based dancehall swept over us and we took it in.

Truly, we were poor as fuck in the UK from when I was a pup vbut in the 70's we all hated whites and the police. By the time gangasta rap came through we were hating each other way too much. All that playa hating, nigga this nigga that shit came in.

Now its true that since I was a yute the UK has become a fucking zoo. Black kids have gone a little bit money mad and crazy but the white kids and Indian/Pakistani kids are crazy mofos too. Everyone is a fucking hard man.

The key thing Blair is doing is telling it like it is in that we, the black community CANNOT afford it. White British society can. Don't believe me? Go to the UK and see. It tells you alot that the guy can only tell it like this because he's leaving the job. Everyone just wants to hide behind it. Kids have been shot in a crowded MacDonalds and Streatham Ice Rink in the last few weeks. That shot NEVER happened in public before.

Compared to the States the UK is still like Disneyland in comparison but it cannot afford to get any worse than it has become for black youths. Its not about poverty because Gypsies are fucking poor and they don't stab each other. The same is true for Bangladeshis in East London and every other poor minority.

Black people have been in the UK long enough to know better and do better. If even none of us have a pot to piss in it ain't about stabbing and shooting each other over gang shot at age 15,16 over what? Who runs your piss stenched block.

I got cousins in Africa who would give their right arm to get a free English education and get the papers to get to US,Canada anywhere. Its dumb taht such a great country - with its racist element but still a great country - is the site of such a "disapointing" situation.

I give Blair applause for having the belated balls to call out the Black community which lacks the kind of leadership - through one recognisable strong leader - that it requires.

:yes: :yes:

Sums everything up.
 
XXXplosive said:
Please keep my name out of your mouth, house nigga.

Remember I'm a house nigga who makes more than you without a degree. Also I don't report to anybody's 9 to 5 unlike you. Oh yeah I made a .6% return on my funds today, 3.08% return yesterday and a 3.98% return on Friday. I love picking with you. It's so fun and juvenile.
 
Chase Bannon said:
Remember I'm a house nigga who makes more than you without a degree. Also I don't report to anybody's 9 to 5 unlike you. Oh yeah I made a .6% return on my funds today, 3.08% return yesterday and a 3.98% return on Friday. I love picking with you. It's so fun and juvenile.

I would hope to god that you're making more money than me, you 30 something year old, college dropout, coon-ass, boot-licking, house nigga
It would be really sad if you weren't :smh:
Good luck passing on your day trading scheme you call a "business" to the next generation
I'll do just fine with my degree (that I was actually able to earn unlike you) and my own business waiting in the wings

Goodnight, I'm done with you for good :lol:
 
XXXplosive said:
I would hope to god that you're making more money than me, you 30 something year old, college dropout, coon-ass, boot-licking, house nigga
It would be really sad if you weren't :smh:
Good luck passing on your day trading scheme you call a "business" to the next generation
I'll do just fine with my degree (that I was actually able to earn unlike you) and my own business waiting in the wings

Goodnight, I'm done with you for good :lol:

Dude that's the best you could come back with?? 30 something??? LOL Age is your measuring stick??? I'm 30 to be exact. I guess it's ashame your parent don't make as much as Jay-Z huh? Isn't he younger than your parents? I guess they are losers also. LOL I guess you are a loser also because my younger brother is working in D.C. doing all kind of things plus working on the International African Committee (or whatever name it is) plus worked for a few notable senators (I got pics to prove it). I'm pretty sure his salary is much higher than yours plus he is younger than you. So now what are you saying about age????? Guess your argument back fired on you huh? I love battling young educated jackasses. LOL
 
Its not about race, its not about RAP Music and its definetly not about JAMAICA or any other Island. Over the decades, generations upon generations is constantly slipping with morals, decency and order which has slipped considerably.

The black community have to endure some of the harshest lifestyle and pressures of their surroundings each day and to see the negative sh!t as being cool . I dont give a F*ck, but it does take a neighborhood to raise a child & of course 1 decent PARENT that gives a F*ck.

It all starts from home every parent must get involve to deprogram the kid/s when they go outside and hang with friends and watch F*cked up prgorams that gives them a false representation of what life is truly about and what it takes (a decent upbringing) to make it in society, and .

I am old enough and can tell you whether you are from Jamaica, Monsterrat, Trinidad, Brazil, Cayman Islands back in the days respect and order was mandatory (especially from families who were NOT poisoned by the low life BS in the westernized world) not only by parents but by the whole F*cking community. I remember the days when as a child and you F*ck up on the streets you would get a beatdown by the community and then another when you get home.

All that is GONE forever IF all they see is junkies, rumpshakers, hoes, potheads, crackheads and all the negative element of society on a daily basis, shown as a way of life and that its cool. Then all it takes is some of life's pressures to push them over the edge to being apart of the statisitic. Even in videos of present day you can see all the negative stuff being constantly shown as being HIP.

Society as we know it has ran amuck with slackness and low life behavior as being cool and acceptable and therefore the kids will follow. Show any kids that something is cool and the majority does it and they will want to do it too. Whether you are white, red, brown, black or yellow if you are in a predominantly bad surrounding the MAJORITY will be caught following. We are a product of our environment and

The meccah of slackness lies within the breakdown of the western civilization which was then spreaded by satelite communication throughout the world like the plague. Kids know they can get away with a lot of sh!t if you try to discipline them nowadays, but back in the days you could beat the pants of them and just the FEAR of that alone would keep them in check.

*PARENTS do your role and change the outcome of tomorrow, believe it or not, this sh!t starts at HOME.......

:smh:

OUT!!!!
 
I think we all should recognize this for what it is, in which they keep the racial issue hot, so it can be used as a cover when they need it. Brittain and the US was just checkmatted on the Chess board the other day by Iran, so instead of admitting defeat,, they throw sand in our eyes and hope we were not paying attention. This include both Black and especially White people.
 
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