BLACK LIVES MATTER Movement Under Attack- from Racist Cacs & Coon Negroes

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Ben Carson calls #BlackLivesMatter a distraction

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...matter-sanders-clinton-anger-column/32055507/

Dr. Ben Carson slammed the Black Lives Matter movement as a distraction on Monday, in an editorial that laid out the Republican presidential candidate’s civil rights agenda.

“The ‘BlackLivesMatter’ movement is focused on the wrong targets, to the detriment of black who would like to see real change,” the 2016 field’s only black presidential contender wrote in USA Today, calling the idea that the movement’s protests against Democratic candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders could bring change “lunacy.”

Carson’s presidential profile is on the rise: in the wake of the first GOP 2016 debate, he is polling in second place in Iowa and he recently attracted a massive crowd at a rally in Phoenix, Arizona. As the only black man in a presidential race where racial inequality is a hot topic, Carson has a unique voice, but it’s a fine line for a Republican candidate to walk.


The Black Lives Matter movement was born in the aftermath of the shooting death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, and has consistently drawn attention to the stream of deaths of unarmed black people at the hands of police. While Carson acknowledges that “racial policing issues exist and some rotten policemen took actions that killed innocent people,” he seems to signal that those issues will resolve themselves. The editorial reiterates his long-held belief that black people can overcome inequality through hard work and education – and takes the age-old argument that black people are solely responsible for the injustice they face – to the next level.

Carson argued that the racial profiling is not the real problem, positing instead that economic distress has created a generation of “hopeless” black Americans who aren’t employed and are destroying their own families through “self-inflicted wounds.”

“The notion that some lives might matter less than others is meant to enrage. That anger is distracting us from what matters most. We’re right to be angry, but we have to stay smart,” he wrote.

Carson cited his own famous rags-to-riches story from the inner city of Detroit to an internationally renowned career as a pediatric neurosurgeon as inspiration for his own position that teacher’s unions, Hollywood, and inner city violence are among the true culprits of racial inequality.

Carson laid out a seven targets he argues should be lobbied for change: the board of education (for destroying “black lives not in the ones in two, but in whole generations”), the entertainment industry for promoting violence in movies like “Straight Outta Compton,” City Hall for unsafe communities, and unnamed crack houses for “selling poison to our children,” (though its unclear how he expects black people to combat this specific drug trade). He also takes Washington D.C. to task, calling out Democrats for fighting a war on poverty with public housing welfare programs, and Republicans for excluding them.





coon, or not?

hes right about that last part..

Black Lives Matter a distraction



What an anti-historical, willfully moronic, non-critical thinking, point of view. Carson and any Black persons who co-signs his stupidity are devoid of even a scintilla of knowledge about how Black people have survived on American soil since 1619. To witness individuals display such a dramatic paucity of knowledge, in the year 2015, when access to the truth is only a few key strokes away via the internet is truly ominous.

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."
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Martin Luther King, Jr.




“Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.”
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Frederick Douglass

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The Truth of ‘Black Lives Matter’


By THE EDITORIAL BOARD | SEPT. 3, 2015| http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/04/opinion/the-truth-of-black-lives-matter.html


The Republican Party and its acolytes in the news media are trying to demonize the protest movement that has sprung up in response to the all-too-common police killings of unarmed African-Americans across the country. The intent of the campaign — evident in comments by politicians like Gov. Nikki Haley of South Carolina, Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin and Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky — is to cast the phrase “Black Lives Matter” as an inflammatory or even hateful anti-white expression that has no legitimate place in a civil rights campaign.


Former Gov. Mike Huckabee of Arkansas crystallized this view when he said the other week that the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., were he alive today, would be “appalled” by the movement’s focus on the skin color of the unarmed people who are disproportionately killed in encounters with the police. This argument betrays a disturbing indifference to or at best a profound ignorance of history in general and of the civil rights movement in particular. From the very beginning, the movement focused unapologetically on bringing an end to state-sanctioned violence against African-Americans and to acts of racial terror very much like the one that took nine lives at Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, S.C., in June.


The civil rights movement was intended to make Congress and Americans confront the fact that African-Americans were being killed with impunity for offenses like trying to vote, and had the right to life and to equal protection under the law. The movement sought a cross-racial appeal, but at every step of the way used expressly racial terms to describe the death and destruction that was visited upon black people because they were black.

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Even in the early 20th century, civil rights groups documented cases in which African-Americans died horrible deaths after being turned away from hospitals reserved for whites, or were lynched — which meant being hanged, burned or dismembered — in front of enormous crowds that had gathered to enjoy the sight.</B></span>

<blink>GO TO </blink><img src="http://vector.me/files/images/2/9/296230/pointing_finger_preview" width="100"> ~~ 100 YEARS OF LYNCHING - by Ralph Ginzburg ~~​

The Charleston church massacre has eerie parallels to the 1963 bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham, Ala. — the most heinous act of that period — which occurred at the height of the early civil rights movement. Four black girls were murdered that Sunday. When Dr. King eulogized them, he did not shy away from the fact that the dead had been killed because they were black, by monstrous men whose leaders fed them “the stale bread of hatred and the spoiled meat of racism.” He said that the dead “have something to say” to a complacent federal government that cut back-room deals with Southern Dixiecrats, as well as to “every Negro who has passively accepted the evil system of segregation and who has stood on the sidelines in a mighty struggle for justice.” Shock over the bombing pushed Congress to pass the Civil Rights Act the following year.


During this same period, freedom riders and voting rights activists led by the young John Lewis offered themselves up to be beaten nearly to death, week after week, day after day, in the South so that the country would witness Jim Crow brutality and meaningfully respond to it. This grisly method succeeded in Selma, Ala., in 1965 when scenes of troopers bludgeoning voting rights demonstrators compelled a previously hesitant Congress to acknowledge that black people deserved full citizenship, too, and to pass the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Along the way, there was never a doubt as to what the struggle was about: securing citizenship rights for black people who had long been denied them.


The “Black Lives Matter” movement focuses on the fact that black citizens have long been far more likely than whites to die at the hands of the police, and is of a piece with this history. Demonstrators who chant the phrase are making the same declaration that voting rights and civil rights activists made a half-century ago. They are not asserting that black lives are more precious than white lives. They are underlining an indisputable fact — that the lives of black citizens in this country historically have not mattered, and have been discounted and devalued. People who are unacquainted with this history are understandably uncomfortable with the language of the movement. But politicians who know better and seek to strip this issue of its racial content and context are acting in bad faith. They are trying to cover up an unpleasant truth and asking the country to collude with them.

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The FOX channel's Attack on the Black Lives Matter Movement

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Colin Powell: ‘I Don’t Mind’ #BlackLivesMatter





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[Greed]

Typical hypocritical post.

Why is it that people like Barbara Reynolds gets a pass?

BLM has been taking shit from nearly everyone who's ever proclaim themselves a black leader.

You ever wonder why BLM has already been neutered? Look at your post only worried about right-wing opposition.

 

[thoughtone]

Typical hypocritical post.

Why is it that people like Barbara Reynolds gets a pass?

BLM has been taking shit from nearly everyone who's ever proclaim themselves a black leader.

You ever wonder why BLM has already been neutered? Look at your post only worried about right-wing opposition.

You ever wonder why BLM has already been neutered?

Typical Tom Coonery!

 

[Greed]

Typical Tom Coonery!

If only you understood what that meant. It wasn't the right that shut BLM up.

 

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<font face="adobe garamond pro bold, arial black" size="6" color="#D90000">Lives That Matter</font>

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"Black lives have been devalued since the development of our Constitution when it counted enslaved people
as three-fifths of a person. To proclaim that Black Lives Matter is to rebut this constitutional flaw."

by Dr. Julianne Malveaux, PhD | July 30, 2015 |http://blackcommentator.com/617/617_lives_that_matter_malveaux_ed_bd.html

It ought to be unnecessary for an activist movement to hinge on the principle of the equivalency of life. In the worlds of Democratic presidential candidates (don’t get me started on the Republicans), there is a compelling need to point out that Black Lives Matter and White lives matter. The problem with them stating the obvious is that White lives have always mattered, and institutional racism has structured a lesser value for Black lives. Asserting that Black Lives Matter is to rebut the inherent supposition that Black lives do not matter. Adding the term “White lives matter” attempts to delegitimize a powerful movement. Of course white lives matter. They always have.

Black lives have been devalued since the development of our Constitution when it counted enslaved people as three-fifths of a person. To proclaim that Black Lives Matter is to rebut this constitutional flaw. We still live with the legacy of enslavement, when Black folks were other people's property. Black folks aren’t property now (unless they are the much-exploited convict laborers), but unequal treatment is not just historical – it still happens. That’s why the Black Lives Matter movement is so important.

The Black Lives Matter movement was a constructive outgrowth of the Trayvon Martin murder, furthered by the protests that happened in the wake of a grand jury’s failure to bring charges against Darren Wilson, the murderer of 18-year-old Michael Brown. As multiracial crowds proclaimed - Black Lives Matter, it seemed that, across the board, people were acknowledging the existence of institutional racism. Too bad Democratic presidential contenders can’t do the same.

Martin O’Malley and Bernie Sanders, the two candidates whose entries into the race may have pushed Hilary Clinton to the left, faced protestors at the progressive Netroots Nation conference earlier this month. Instead of acknowledging the legitimacy of the Black Lives Matter movement, both candidates were prickly. Sanders threatened to leave the stage because the protester’s chants drowned him out. Candidate Hilary Clinton was not present, and some objected to that, but she either missed the opportunity to engage, or was spared embarrassment if she emulated O’Malley and Sanders stance.

Both O’Malley and Sanders have scrambled to clean up their acts, backtracking and owning the “mistakes” they’ve made in dealing with the young activists that have taken the lead in protesting police brutality and asserting the importance of Black lives. To clean up their acts, all of the candidates need to listen to leaders of the Black Lives Matter movement, instead of talking at people the way politicians are most likely to do. If they listen they might hear the frustration that young folks feel when the police stop them for simply walking while Black. They might hear the despair some will share when, even while fully prepared, they find few opportunities for employment, and too many doors slammed in their faces. They might understand that Blacks have a different reality than Whites do, and it shows up in terms of economic, educational, and social indicators.

In the wake of Michael Brown’s massacre, Ferguson elected two new Black members for the city council.Now, Andre Anderson, an African American man from Glendale, Arizona has been appointed interim police chief. Ferguson is under pressure to do better. What about the rest of our country?

If Michael Brown’s killing was the impetus for Ferguson voters to go to the polls, that’s a good thing. If the Black Lives Matter movement does the same thing nationally, the Democratic nominee has a better chance of winning in November 2016. If the Black Lives Matter movement is not treated respectfully, it is likely that many will stay home. Young voters rushed to the polls in 2008, riveted by candidate Obama’s optimistic “yes we can” mantra. Will they come out for white Democrats, no matter how progressive, who don’t respect their movements and their ideas?

The video showing the brutality involved in the vicious arrest of Sandra Bland, the Prairie View A&M alumnae who died in jail earlier this month makes it clear that the Black Lives Matter movement is much needed. Their pressure to stop police brutality has pushed police departments to use video cameras, and made it possible for us to see the repugnant behavior of State Trooper Brian T. Enciniawho roughed a young woman up because she would not put out her cigarette.

Don’t tell me that White lives matter. That’s not new information. Whose faces are on our money? Whose statues grace legislative buildings? Who leads the overwhelming majority of Fortune 500 companies? Who dominates our legislative bodies? Our African American president, supposedly the most powerful person in the world, is ill treated by his colleagues often for racial, not political, reasons. We live in a racist and patriarchal society where the value of Black life is too-often diminished. That’s why, Martin O’Malley, there is a special need to assert that Black Lives Matter. Those who would be President ought to embrace that concept, instead of denying it.


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[thoughtone]

It wasn't the right that shut BLM up.

Do you actually think the media will give any positive press to this issue?

Bill O’Reilly Announces He Will Put #BlackLivesMatter ‘Out Of Business’

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[QueEx]

Thanks to each of you that have posted above. If I may, let me ask: What, exactly and succintly, are the chief tenets or platforms, or beliefs, etc., of BlackLivesMatter ???

I thought I had a working understanding of the BLM movement, i.e., that Black Lives are not being treated in the same manner as white lives, and it needs to be made clear that Black Lives Matter. I thought, (rightfully or wrongfully) inherent in the meaning of Black Lives Matter is the notion that all lives matter, but there is an urgent need to emphasize the lives of those who are (supposedly) a part of that "ALL" -- but for numerous of reasons -- are being treated differently.

Personally, I don't have a problem believing and saying that, All Lives Matter. I believe that. But I also understand, that ALL are not now and have never been treated equally or equitably.

Several weeks ago, when confronted on-stage by persons from the BLM, Bernie Sanders (in my opinion fearing an alienation of white support or fearing that he would be saying something that his GOP opponents would use against him later) took a bit of exception to BlackLivesMatter, by stating that AllLivesMatter. I said then that Sanders was unprepared (some on this board criticized that opinion) because I thought he should have foreseen that he would be asked whether Black Lives Matter and that by simply responding as he did that "All Lives Matter" his statement would likely be viewed as a rejection of the notion that Black Lives are not being treated as white lives, hence, tripping and falling into the racist trap.

Preparation and anticipation should have led Sanders to acknowledge, perhaps, that all lives do in deed matter, BUT, go on to recognize and explain that there is a problem and that in order for all lives to really matter, attention must be given to those lives that are not being treated as the whole.​

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But after that ramble, so that I might be clear, what, exactly and succintly, are the chief tenets or platforms, or beliefs, etc., of BlackLivesMatter ???​

 

[thoughtone]

Thanks to each of you that have posted above. If I may, let me ask: What, exactly and succintly, are the chief tenets or platforms, or beliefs, etc., of BlackLivesMatter ???


But after that ramble, so that I might be clear, what, exactly and succintly, are the chief tenets or platforms, or beliefs, etc., of BlackLivesMatter ???​

source: BBC

• Ending "broken windows" policing, which aggressively polices minor crimes in an attempt to stop larger ones
• using community oversight for misconduct rather than having police decide what consequences officers face
• making standards for reporting police use of deadly force
• independently investigating and prosecuting police misconduct
• having the racial makeup of police departments reflect the communities they serve
• requiring officers to wear body cameras
• providing more training for police officers
• ending for-profit policing practices
• ending the police use of military equipment
• implementing police union contracts that hold officers accountable for misconduct

 

[thoughtone]

It wasn't the right that shut BLM up.

source: Ring of Fire

Sarah Palin Called Black Lives Matter Protesters “Dogs” While Protesting Iran Nuclear Deal

Joining a group of Tea Party wackos today to protest against the Iran nuclear deal, Sarah Palin, probably trying to cover for her inability to find Iran on a map, decided to attack the Black Lives Matter movement.

“Thank you for gathering to uphold the promise that was made, the promise of never again,” Palin said to her fellow protesters. “And thank you for gathering as we can because we are still a free people. And if you love that freedom, think of that.”

“Oh, and you know, since your president won’t say it, since he still hasn’t called off the dogs, we’ll say it. Police officers and first responders all across this great land, we got your back! We salute you!”

“Thank you, police officers!”

Watch via RawStory.

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[Greed]

OK, so you listen to a lot of what Bill O'Reilly and Sarah Palin have to say. Now what have they done to neutralize BLM more effectively than Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton?

 

[thoughtone]

OK, so you listen to a lot of what Bill O'Reilly and Sarah Palin have to say. Now what have they done to neutralize BLM more effectively than Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton?

I don't watch those fools. I do read where they show their assess. I agree that the media gives them more press than they deserved.

How did Sanders and Clinton neutralize BLM?

Explain instead of your drive by talking points.

 

[Greed]

I don't watch those fools. I do read where they show their assess. I agree that the media gives them more press than they deserved.

How did Sanders and Clinton neutralize BLM?

Explain instead of your drive by talking points.

I don't think anyone here finds it credible that you're not obsessed with fox news and watch all the shows on their line up.

You even used that "drive-by" term to make a hypocrite's point. You throw out that I'm working with talking points when you didn't bother to explain what Bill O'Reilly and Sarah Palin are doing either.

Hillary Clinton's most famous interaction with BLM is avoidance and keeping them out of her events. That is until she decided to talk to them with no one around.

Bernie sanders only had to hire a black spokesman after the Seattle debacle. He also rebranded the same old policy and called it a black plan.

I wish I had a rubber stamp that said "PACIFIED".

Your favorite white politicians, in face to face interactions, were very effective in making BLM look like the unreasonable ones.

 

[thoughtone]

I don't think anyone here finds it credible that you're not obsessed with fox news and watch all the shows on their line up.

You even used that "drive-by" term to make a hypocrite's point. You throw out that I'm working with talking points when you didn't bother to explain what Bill O'Reilly and Sarah Palin are doing either.

Hillary Clinton's most famous interaction with BLM is avoidance and keeping them out of her events. That is until she decided to talk to them with no one around.

Bernie sanders only had to hire a black spokesman after the Seattle debacle. He also rebranded the same old policy and called it a black plan.

I wish I had a rubber stamp that said "PACIFIED".

Your favorite white politicians, in face to face interactions, were very effective in making BLM look like the unreasonable ones.

Where in this rant is your example of anyone neutralizing the BLM movement?

Never mind.

Typical.

 

[Greed]

Where in this rant is your example of anyone neutralizing the BLM movement?

Never mind.

Typical.

Shutting you the fuck up is neutralizing you.

Or do you think Bernie and Hillary has made you stronger?

There is reason black people keep losing. For some reason you think you won because a particular white person dismissed you.

If you can't push the politicians you vote for, then how have you advanced? That's the part that's typical for black people.

 

[thoughtone]

Shutting you the fuck up is neutralizing you.

Or do you think Bernie and Hillary has made you stronger?

There is reason black people keep losing. For some reason you think you won because a particular white person dismissed you.

If you can't push the politicians you vote for, then how have you advanced? That's the part that's typical for black people.

 

[thoughtone]

 

[thoughtone]

Black Lives Matter: 52 Years Ago!

 

[QueEx]

Black Lives Matter: 52 Years Ago!

I started a reply in this thread more than a week ago, but lost a very, very dear one in my family and I never got around to posting it or much else lately. The pic above, however, revived some of my thoughts.

While I agree and disagree with some of the comments in the Barbara Reynolds piece mentioned in Post #4 above, I believe that one of the things she alluded to but did not come right out and say with respect to the participants and tactics of the 1960s' Civil Rights Movement (CRM) and that which is lacking in the BlackLivesMatter movement (BLM) is that from what I have seen thus far, there appears not to be a clear separation of those whose principal aim is change through nonviolence and those who view change as proceeding through more "Radical" means.

That is, during the CRM the nonviolent movement (NVM) represented by MLKing, et al., proceeded along one track while the more violent wing, represented by the Black Panthers, Black Stone Rangers, etc., et al., proceeded generally along another. While there may have been disagreements between the two -- two things I believe are important to note: (1) the principles of the NVM were not as easily attacked or compromised by violence (as appear to be the case with the BLM (whether true or not or portrayed that way by the media); and (2) there was always the notion that the establishment A/K/A white America could listen and deal with the demands, etc., of the NVM; or face a different reality/consequence with the more "Radical" elements represented by Panthers, Rangers, Nation, etc.

That lack of division, in my opinion, could be harmful to the goals of the BLM, i.e., it could allow the worthy goals of the BLM to wrongfully be criticized/distorted, etc., for example, police officers in Texas commenting on one of theirs shot down pumping gasoline in/near Houston pointed to the words and actions of the BLM as a cause of the officer's demise, when I doubt seriously the BLM supports the murder of police officers (or, at least, it shouldn't). True or not, the BLM needs to be in a position where its aims are not in a position to be attacked because of the violence of others.

That lack of division, in my opinion, could also hurt the BLM cause because, as I look at the goals of the BLM posted above by Thought One (and thank you for posting BTW) they do not appear to me to completely thought out. While I think they are a good start, I believe the needed change goes a bit deeper than they may have thought out [i.e., BLM lists "providing more training for police officers" as one of its tenets -- but I think police are already being trained well, <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">the problem may be WHAT THEY ARE BEING TRAINED; AND HOW THE LAW, especially guidance from SCOTUS</span>, has allowed law enforcement to become much more aggressive than need be; why do you think so few cops are being indicted in shootings that are troubling when viewed through the eyes of most of US ???]. Hence, maybe the BLM needs to make room for more intellectual thought -- that doesn't need to be connected with violence or the appearance of violence.

[Of course, I realize that some may argue that BLM should embody both elements, violence and nonviolence;
I just think that's more clearly a way to get innocent people killed than it is to bringing about change]​

Over.

 

[QueEx]

P.S.

You might ask: how are my comments above relevant to the subject of this thread: "BLACK LIVES MATTER Movement Under Attack- from Racist Cacs & Coon Negroes" -- I think they are relevant because just as much as the movement can be stifled by individuals (Racist Cacs & Coon Negroes), an ill-designed movement may just as well contribute to or be the cause of, its own demise.

 

[thoughtone]

Bernie sanders only had to hire a black spokesman after the Seattle debacle. He also rebranded the same old policy and called it a black plan.

I wish I had a rubber stamp that said "PACIFIED".

Your favorite white politicians, in face to face interactions, were very effective in making BLM look like the unreasonable ones.

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