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Congressional Republicans Decry "Mediscare"
By Jim Angle
Published May 11, 2011 | FoxNews.com

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Freshmen Republicans emerged from the House Wednesday to complain that Democrats are violating a pledge from President Obama not to demonize proposals tackling big problems such as Medicare, including the plan from Republican Paul Ryan.
Despite the President's pledge, Adam Kinsziger, R-Ill., said "a week after its passage... Democrats started what the Chicago Tribune referred to as 'Mediscare' tactics against Republicans."
And James Lankford, R-Okla., said "Washington's a great place to talk about the problems but as soon as someone actually proposes a solution, everyone attacks the person proposing solutions... That doesn’t solve the problem."
House Republicans want the president to condemn Democratic attacks, since they violate pledges he made last year when he spoke at their retreat in Baltimore.
"We're not going to be able to do anything about any of these entitlements," the president told Republicans, "if what we do is characterize whatever proposals are put out there as well, you know that's, the other party is being irresponsible. The other party is trying to hurt our senior citizens."

But Democratic political ads are attacking the Ryan plan in spite of the president's assurances. And Democratic lawmakers have paid little heed to the president's pledge either.
Democrat John Larson, D-Conn., described the Ryan plan as "nothing more than an assault on the social contract that we have with our people here in this country."
As far as Medicare is involved, the Ryan plan would pay private insurance premiums for seniors in hopes of creating competition, instead of having the government pay for every procedure, which it can no longer afford.
Ryan’s plan would dedicate more money to the poor and sick, but Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius argues it would force sick seniors to pay too much out of their own pockets, a point she made about cancer patients during recent testimony before the House.
"You're really left to scrape together charity care, go without care, die sooner, there aren't really a lot of options," Sebelius said.
And the Democratic leader in the House, Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., followed up late Wednesday, characterizing the plan as "saying to granny, that would be me, go out there and fend for yourself with the insurance companies.”
A Democratic ad campaign ad pounced on the Ryan plan, showing the elderly doing odd jobs to make money to pay medical bills, with one senior using a walker to push a lawnmower as a teen looked on and said "you missed a spot."
Such attacks would appear to violate the president's assurances, prompting 42 House freshmen to send Obama a letter urging him to do something about it.
"tand above partisanship, condemn the disingenuous attacks, and work with this Congress to reform entitlements....," the letter said.
If the debate stays at this level, the president himself may be vulnerable to attack because his health care plan, what critics call Obamacare, also puts tight limits on future Medicare spending.


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I swear Republicans believe Democrats are idiots.

Someone over at HuffPost coined the phrase "coupon care"
 
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Yeah, they know they fucked up and potentially alienated one of their most loyal constituencies ... old people.
 
they are right, attacking the proposal didn't solve the problem, but the proposal itself wouldn't solve the problem either so I think they are squared...
Emasculated men
 
why did obama make that pledge in the first place?

It's called bi-partisan politics, it's why the voters sent Obama to Washington in the first place, so that he could bring both sides of the aisle together, however (and I was just talking to someone about this last week) Obama went in with good intentions but he had not yet built enough political clout to really get done what he wants done, remember he didn't even serve one full term as senator.

Sorry to point this out people but if Hillary were elected she would have gotten a lot more done, simply because she and her husband have quite a few markers out all over DC.

That is the game of politics, there's no getting around it.
 
why did obama make that pledge in the first place?

Trying to reach across the aisle to get things done... But of course they turned around and attacked him for it. So I could give two fucks about them.

They dont seem to be making any effort on making cuts toward their base (the wealthy, big business, defense, etc.). The majority of their "cuts" are directed specifically at the middle class and the poor. :smh:
 
It's called bi-partisan politics, it's why the voters sent Obama to Washington in the first place, so that he could bring both sides of the aisle together, however (and I was just talking to someone about this last week) Obama went in with good intentions but he had not yet built enough political clout to really get done what he wants done, remember he didn't even serve one full term as senator.

Sorry to point this out people but if Hillary were elected she would have gotten a lot more done, simply because she and her husband have quite a few markers out all over DC.

That is the game of politics, there's no getting around it.

Trying to reach across the aisle to get things done... But of course they turned around and attacked him for it. So I could give two fucks about them.

They dont seem to be making any effort on making cuts toward their base (the wealthy, big business, defense, etc.). The majority of their "cuts" are directed specifically at the middle class and the poor. :smh:

A black man shouldn't be in the business of selling rope to the white man.
 
Yeah, they know they fucked up and potentially alienated one of their most loyal constituencies ... old people.

they were counting on the populace having the same hatred for the president and his policies as the tea party does. they expected people to accept those wild cuts to programs that were geared toward helping THEM. republicans took the nov elections as a mandate. they were wrong. and now they're paying the price
 
A black man shouldn't be in the business of selling rope to the white man.

Obama is President, he never made any specific promises to anyone Black or White but to the people @ large.

Black people seem to keep thinking that because he's Black he's beholden to us but he has never even suggested that this was the case.
 
Obama is President, he never made any specific promises to anyone Black or White but to the people @ large.

Black people seem to keep thinking that because he's Black he's beholden to us but he has never even suggested that this was the case.

out of context dude.

obama sold them enough rhetoric [rope] for them to try and hang him with.

he would have been better off saying nothing. at least then the repubs would be at a loss for another red herring.

btw, this has absolutely nothing to do with what you said. seems like some of you kats got the whole "obama ain't just the president of black folks" speech loaded, and pull the trigger anytime you hear 'obama' and 'black' used in the same sentence, irrespective of what has actually been said.
 
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out of context dude.

obama sold them enough rhetoric [rope] for them to try and hang him with.

he would have been better off saying nothing. at least then the repubs would be at a loss for another red herring.

btw, this has absolutely nothing to do with what you said. seems like some of you kats got the whole "obama ain't just the president of black folks" speech loaded, and pull the trigger anytime you hear 'obama' and 'black' used in the same sentence, irrespective of what has actually been said.

I hate stock responses.
 
out of context dude.

obama sold them enough rhetoric [rope] for them to try and hang him with.

he would have been better off saying nothing. at least then the repubs would be at a loss for another red herring.

btw, this has absolutely nothing to do with what you said. seems like some of you kats got the whole "obama ain't just the president of black folks" speech loaded, and pull the trigger anytime you hear 'obama' and 'black' used in the same sentence, irrespective of what has actually been said.

Sorry bro, that answer wasn't aimed @ you, it was aimed @ the thread itself, I hit quote once and post reply three times and that's what came up!

Screens are locking up on me here tonight.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/13/opinion/13krugman.html?_r=1&hp


This has to be one of the funniest political stories of recent weeks: On Tuesday, 42 freshmen Republican members of Congress sent a letter urging President Obama to stop Democrats from engaging in “Mediscare” tactics — that is, to stop saying that the Republican budget plan released early last month, which would end Medicare as we know it, is a plan to end Medicare as we know it.
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Now, you may recall that the people who signed that letter got their current jobs largely by engaging in “Mediscare” tactics of their own. And bear in mind that what Democrats are saying now is entirely true, while what Republicans were saying last year was completely false. Death panels!

Well, it’s time, said the signatories, to “wipe the slate clean.” How very convenient — and how very pathetic.

Anyway, the truth is that older Americans really should fear Republican budget ideas — and not just because of that plan to dismantle Medicare. Given the realities of the federal budget, a party insisting that tax increases of any kind are off the table — as John Boehner, the speaker of the House, says they are — is, necessarily, a party demanding savage cuts in programs that serve older Americans.

To explain why, let me answer a rhetorical question posed by Professor John Taylor of Stanford University in a recent op-ed article in The Wall Street Journal. He asked, “If government agencies and programs functioned with 19% to 20% of G.D.P. in 2007” — that is, just before the Great Recession — “why is it so hard for them to function with that percentage in 2021?”
 
:lol: this is pathetic dudes are copping pleas after trying to beat him over the head with medicare last year....... Krackers man Krackers.
 
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