BGOL WILL Put You Up On A Hustle

[Damn Right]

about almost 8 months back, somebody droped a thread about janitorial businesses. saw several heads speak on it, thread read cool/interesting so lurked on the janitorial site the op spoke on. did some research, found out industry rates, workers comp and insurance rates, etc. already have a main business but thought the janitorial look could bring in some extra cheddar.

long story short, contacted several mngt companies for buildings around l.a. and ventura county and came up on some. IMMEDIATELY got some pro cleaning hardware from another janitoral site, paper products needed and cleaning agents then hired three crews to handle the work in the different buildings. the money you can make doin this on the side is no joke. and the only thing you gotta do is administrative work and shoot those invoices out each month. definitely suggest anybody willing to give it a try. and NUFF RESPECT to the op who made that dayum thread!

shoot any questions about start up costs, etc here and i'll drop the info on ya. keep recycling those paper-generating ideas, bgol!

 

[malaki]

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[Cross]

about almost 8 months back, somebody droped a thread about janitorial businesses. saw several heads speak on it, thread read cool/interesting so lurked on the janitorial site the op spoke on. did some research, found out industry rates, workers comp and insurance rates, etc. already have a main business but thought the janitorial look could bring in some extra cheddar.

long story short, contacted several mngt companies for buildings around l.a. and ventura county and came up on some. IMMEDIATELY got some pro cleaning hardware from another janitoral site, paper products needed and cleaning agents then hired three crews to handle the work in the different buildings. the money you can make doin this on the side is no joke. and the only thing you gotta do is administrative work and shoot those invoices out each month. definitely suggest anybody willing to give it a try. and NUFF RESPECT to the op who made that dayum thread!

shoot any questions about start up costs, etc here and i'll drop the info on ya. keep recycling those paper-generating ideas, bgol!

What were the names of the janitorial sites you researched for info? Im definitely interested.

 

[Boobie_Clark]

shoot any questions about start up costs, etc here and i'll drop the info on ya. keep recycling those paper-generating ideas, bgol!

Yo I got about 3 Gs on me to play around with....is that enough to start up with?

 

[Damn Right]

What were the names of the janitorial sites you researched for info? Im definitely interested.

there were almost a dozen that i hit overall, but the one i hit FIRST was the one the bgol op droped. that site is http://www.cleaningtalk.com/ and it's full of info on how to clean commercial sites profesionally, bidding price info, and a whole lot of other info....

 

[Perplex]

not to be so blunt, but exactly what kind of cheddar we talking about here?

 

[stickmanX]

how much was your initial start up cost for equiptment, workers, insurance and licensing?

 

[madman1]

yeah more info would be appreciated sir!!!

 

[Damn Right]

Yo I got about 3 Gs on me to play around with....is that enough to start up with?

depends on if you want to do commercial buildings, private homes, apartments or bank owned homes that are in need of DEEP cleaning before the banks show them to new buyers.

depending on what you wanna get into, you won't need workers comp or liability insurance for your employees to get started. but some larger commercial bldg management companies WILL want you to show proof of both before they put you on though. smaller commercial bldgs and businesses won't even ask, but at the same time they won't wanna give you top dollar to bring in a crew.

if you wanna just do it all by yourself on the side (all the cleaning), then you can grab a lot of small projects and just go from one to the other, back-to-back all in one night and keep all the money, minus the paper products. just make sure you get all the cleaning equipment (hardware) you need THE DAY u get the contract. like if dude says 'when can u start', don't give him some bullsheit line then NOT have your equipment. what you wanna do is find out from the cleaning equipment vendor what the normal turnaround is to fill orders.

banks, smaller doc offices and childcare centers are always looking for good cleaning companies (least out here in l.a.) to clean their places after business hours, but they won't give up top dollar to bring in a cleaning crew, so i'd suggest you either get one other person to help or just do it yourself

 

[African Herbsman]

props

 

[Damn Right]

not to be so blunt, but exactly what kind of cheddar we talking about here?

it's cool to be blunt. i'd wanna know if it was worth my time getting into as well and i don't mind droping that info. it brings in an xtra $3,500+ per month. after i pay out the liability insurance preminums, workers comp and employee wages, i pocket almost $1,900 each month. but as i said earlier, it's all xtra loot since this is a side biz venture

 

[Damn Right]

how much was your initial start up cost for equiptment, workers, insurance and licensing?

the beauty of it was my START UP was practically non existant. the first bldg management company job i got already had the hardware needed to do the job that they kept in the janitors closet. only thing i had to do was purchase the paper products needed to refill the bathrooms and the cleaning chemicals for the janitors. i hired a single two man crew to work the shifts, and had to pay their first paycheck out of pocket since the bldg management was only invoiced once at the end of each month. as time went on, i got more guys, hooked up equipment, offered workers comp and got liability insurance to cover both the workers and the biz. if you wanna do more bldgs and make more cheese, you definitely have to get the hardware and go after the larger bldg mngt companies.

what you should do is get a resellers permit to you can buy the paper products wholesale. if you don't wanna deal with the end-of-year paperwork then just go to sams club or some other retail warehouse and buy in bulk to keep your costs down. the pro cleaning chemicals you can get from janitor websites like the one i posted in an earlier reply

 

[gameboy]

did you go through on of those franchises like jani king or jan pro?,,, or did you start the biz yourself?,,, are you having to do any of the labor yourself

 

[bigreg2007]

Good thread DR, I see you doing your thang.

I started a 'property cleaning & maintenance' company back in March and to tell you the truth I hadnt recieved many 'cleaning' gigs as of yet. I've been doing mostly 'clean-outs' [removing past tenants old beds, dining sets, trash, debris, etc], old appliance hauling, yard care, and things of that nature.

Evictions are cool gig if you can get in with property mgmt team. The sheriff meets you out there and all you have to do is set the tenants shit out on the curb. I got this gig from craigslist...a lawyer saw my ad and was impressed. Now I do like 2-3 of these per month at $250/per.set-out. I keep $150 and either pay two of my workers $50/each.

For those who are interested I received most of my bizness advertising craigslist. I created a couple different 'image' ads and I recieve like ten calls a day...varying. 70% calls are asking If "I'm hiring" but the other 30% are potentials asking for bids and whatnot.

I've done a few apartment 'clean-ups' in which I had to vaccum, mop, disenfect the kitchen and bathrooms. I charge $40-$60 per unit. To date I've had three of these jobs.

Junk hauling pays pretty well too if you have a work truck or van and dont mind getting a lil sweaty/dirty. I advertise $35 per load [I know its cheap but most of the time I can salvage the metal and get and extra $25 from the scrap yard] and my condition is that the "junk" must already be outside...If I have to go in to get it then I charge extra.

Sorry to get off tangent.

I really thought that the "cleaning" aspect would rock & roll but for me it didnt. I know its because I'm not insured or bonded.

 

[Damn Right]

did you go through on of those franchises like jani king or jan pro?,,, or did you start the biz yourself?,,, are you having to do any of the labor yourself

no, i didn't go through a franchise. i REALLY got the idea after reading that bgol thread a while back. i did a lot of research though and contacted several reps from online janitorial companies by way of email when i had deep questions. i think the trick is not getting in over your head and making sure that the cleaning is always up to professional standards. i don't have to do any of the labor because i hired guys to do it

 

[LANQS]

Cats gettin' that money.

 

[gameboy]

propz bra,,, how many buildings do you currently have? do they have to be cleaned daily? what is the target number of contracts you think you can handle?

 

[Adam Knows]

about almost 8 months back, somebody droped a thread about janitorial businesses. saw several heads speak on it, thread read cool/interesting so lurked on the janitorial site the op spoke on. did some research, found out industry rates, workers comp and insurance rates, etc. already have a main business but thought the janitorial look could bring in some extra cheddar.

long story short, contacted several mngt companies for buildings around l.a. and ventura county and came up on some. IMMEDIATELY got some pro cleaning hardware from another janitoral site, paper products needed and cleaning agents then hired three crews to handle the work in the different buildings. the money you can make doin this on the side is no joke. and the only thing you gotta do is administrative work and shoot those invoices out each month. definitely suggest anybody willing to give it a try. and NUFF RESPECT to the op who made that dayum thread!

shoot any questions about start up costs, etc here and i'll drop the info on ya. keep recycling those paper-generating ideas, bgol!

congrats....


always glad to hear a bruh doing it on his own.

 

[Damn Right]

I really thought that the "cleaning" aspect would rock & roll but for me it didnt. I know its because I'm not insured or bonded.

what state are u in? out here in cali, being bonded isn't required. but let me ask you how much time are you putting into hitting up building management companies? i'm tellin u man, these people will give you a shot if they don't like the service they're getting with their current service. but it's more than just commercial bldgs out there. banks, childcare centers, medical/doctor's offices, dentists, smaller movie theaters, small businesses. it's really a numbers game. u hit up 30 companies and 4 will give you a shot. PLUS, people who say 'not interested' today may be interested in 3 months. just give 'um a follow up call.

sheit, just THIS MORNING i was considering putting a bid in on a bldg project out in l.a. county but the scope of work was REALLY intensive. the wanted the floors to be stripped/buffed on the regular, polishing, carpet cleaning and all the basic cleaning/dumping too. would have to get additional hardware and a floor buffer can hit your pockets for $900+. the spot was bigger than i was comfortable with too for the number of guys i already have working so that means hiring more guys, paying more for insurance, etc. the bid price wasn't enough to justify all the other tangibles so i just said 'forget it' and didn't even put in a bid. but you'll have more work than you can handle if you push for those commercial bldgs

 

[Damn Right]

propz bra,,, how many buildings do you currently have? do they have to be cleaned daily? what is the target number of contracts you think you can handle?

currently have 3 bldgs. two have to be cleaned each day. one has to be cleaned twice a week. but i'm not really looking to target a specific number of bldgs really, just utilizing the crew currently working. but to work on even larger projects, i'll need to hire more guys and purchase additional hardware. i'd definitely want to do that but would need to have several large projects lined up to justify making that move

 

[Damn Right]

congrats....


always glad to hear a bruh doing it on his own.

tnx playboy

 

[jasonblacc]

Props......I've been thinking bout this for a min.... I didn't know if I was going to go with a cleaning company or go independent. Which do you recommend....My homie went with a cleaning company and got fucked in the end....but he was kinda slacking

 

[bigreg2007]

what state are u in? out here in cali, being bonded isn't required. but let me ask you how much time are you putting into hitting up building management companies? i'm tellin u man, these people will give you a shot if they don't like the service they're getting with their current service. but it's more than just commercial bldgs out there. banks, childcare centers, medical/doctor's offices, dentists, smaller movie theaters, small businesses. it's really a numbers game. u hit up 30 companies and 4 will give you a shot. PLUS, people who say 'not interested' today may be interested in 3 months. just give 'um a follow up call.

sheit, just THIS MORNING i was considering putting a bid in on a bldg project out in l.a. county but the scope of work was REALLY intensive. the wanted the floors to be stripped/buffed on the regular, polishing, carpet cleaning and all the basic cleaning/dumping too. would have to get additional hardware and a floor buffer can hit your pockets for $900+. the spot was bigger than i was comfortable with too for the number of guys i already have working so that means hiring more guys, paying more for insurance, etc. the bid price wasn't enough to justify all the other tangibles so i just said 'forget it' and didn't even put in a bid. but you'll have more work than you can handle if you push for those commercial bldgs

I'm in Cincinnati OH. And you're probaly right in that I havent done my due diligence with mgmt companies. I'm gonna start that this week.

Mgmt Companies:

How did you get their info?

How did you approach them? (mail, in person, email, ad...)

How did you model your pricing?

 

[bigreg2007]

Props......I've been thinking bout this for a min.... I didn't know if I was going to go with a cleaning company or go independent. Which do you recommend....My homie went with a cleaning company and got fucked in the end....but he was kinda slacking

Brah. Everyone that I've heard from [in the biz] has told me to avoid going with companies like JaniKing like the plague.

What they say is that the money is just not worth it.

Lets see:

They [jani companies] provide the clients, the contacts, the equipment, and the assignments. So how much are they gonna pay YOU after they've provided sooooo much? I dont know exactly but I imagine it cant be much.

 

[NnubianN]

Sounds like a nice side hustle. Lemme ask you...do your workers use their own vehicles to go from job to job and haul materials or do you rent vans? Where do you store the excess materials? Hiring personnel can be hit or miss cause if you hire the wrong dude(s) with a shady backround that will reflect on you. Extensive backround checks, reading resumes, checking references, driver's licenses, etc can eat through your time & bank pretty quick.

Overall I like your hustle. You definitely have good business sense. Super props for taking a risk and moving to the next tax bracket

 

[D-TOWN REP]

Props and yes there is money in this as well as house cleaning

I know someone who started their own housecleaning biz and just hired mexican ladys to go clean the houses and buildings making good money

 

[Boobie_Clark]

depends on if you want to do commercial buildings, private homes, apartments or bank owned homes that are in need of DEEP cleaning before the banks show them to new buyers.

depending on what you wanna get into, you won't need workers comp or liability insurance for your employees to get started. but some larger commercial bldg management companies WILL want you to show proof of both before they put you on though. smaller commercial bldgs and businesses won't even ask, but at the same time they won't wanna give you top dollar to bring in a crew.

if you wanna just do it all by yourself on the side (all the cleaning), then you can grab a lot of small projects and just go from one to the other, back-to-back all in one night and keep all the money, minus the paper products. just make sure you get all the cleaning equipment (hardware) you need THE DAY u get the contract. like if dude says 'when can u start', don't give him some bullsheit line then NOT have your equipment. what you wanna do is find out from the cleaning equipment vendor what the normal turnaround is to fill orders.

banks, smaller doc offices and childcare centers are always looking for good cleaning companies (least out here in l.a.) to clean their places after business hours, but they won't give up top dollar to bring in a cleaning crew, so i'd suggest you either get one other person to help or just do it yourself

Thanks and good karma to you bruh....

 

[Damn Right]

Props......I've been thinking bout this for a min.... I didn't know if I was going to go with a cleaning company or go independent. Which do you recommend....My homie went with a cleaning company and got fucked in the end....but he was kinda slacking

franchises like jani king can get you lots of work, but they pay you a percentage of what the gig brings in so imo, it's better to do the footwork yourself, get your own equipment and cut them out.

 

[Damn Right]

I'm in Cincinnati OH. And you're probaly right in that I havent done my due diligence with mgmt companies. I'm gonna start that this week.

Mgmt Companies:

How did you get their info?

How did you approach them? (mail, in person, email, ad...)

How did you model your pricing?

u get info on mngt companies by contacting the building managers and asking them who runs their building management company. u can find get a list of office bldgs in your area through the yellow pages or a quick google search.

you wanna make an initial call then find out who the contact person is and ask if you can set a 10 min meeting with them to pitch your cleaning services. if they say 'we're happy with who we have now' ask if you can meet with them anyway to see if you can save them money w/o them losing quality. if the STILL say no, just thank them for their time and hit them up again in a few months. sheit, the person who told you 'no' may not be there anymore, or the cleaning company they were with coulda started to slip.

model pricing depends greatly on what you do, what they WANT you to do and the amount of time/energy it takes to get the job done. industry standards are between .20 - .60 per square foot. some companies even charge upwards of .80 per sq. foot but those are in area w/o as many cleaning companies around to give them competition. but basically if the job calls for regular carpet cleaning (not vaccum but DEEP CLEANING), stipping/buffing, etc., then hit them up on the higher end of the spectrum

 

[NnubianN]

u get info on mngt companies by contacting the building managers and asking them who runs their building management company. u can find get a list of office bldgs in your area through the yellow pages or a quick google search.

you wanna make an initial call then find out who the contact person is and ask if you can set a 10 min meeting with them to pitch your cleaning services. if they say 'we're happy with who we have now' ask if you can meet with them anyway to see if you can save them money w/o them losing quality. if the STILL say no, just thank them for their time and hit them up again in a few months. sheit, the person who told you 'no' may not be there anymore, or the cleaning company they were with coulda started to slip.

model pricing depends greatly on what you do, what they WANT you to do and the amount of time/energy it takes to get the job done. industry standards are between .20 - .60 per square foot. some companies even charge upwards of .80 per sq. foot but those are in area w/o as many cleaning companies around to give them competition. but basically if the job calls for regular carpet cleaning (not vaccum but DEEP CLEANING), stipping/buffing, etc., then hit them up on the higher end of the spectrum

Just from reading that it definitely sounds like you got it together! Much success to you bruh. And much respect for doing it on your own terms.

Peace

 

[gameboy]

Props......I've been thinking bout this for a min.... I didn't know if I was going to go with a cleaning company or go independent. Which do you recommend....My homie went with a cleaning company and got fucked in the end....but he was kinda slacking

jani king hustles people into thinking they own their own biz,,, what they do is make you buy all your supplies & contracts from them,,, that technically makes you an independent contractor, which means they don't have to pay taxes for your labor,,, you are really an employee who they don't have to pay benefits or taxes on,,, they get all your contracts for you

 

[bigreg2007]

u get info on mngt companies by contacting the building managers and asking them who runs their building management company. u can find get a list of office bldgs in your area through the yellow pages or a quick google search.

you wanna make an initial call then find out who the contact person is and ask if you can set a 10 min meeting with them to pitch your cleaning services. if they say 'we're happy with who we have now' ask if you can meet with them anyway to see if you can save them money w/o them losing quality. if the STILL say no, just thank them for their time and hit them up again in a few months. sheit, the person who told you 'no' may not be there anymore, or the cleaning company they were with coulda started to slip.

model pricing depends greatly on what you do, what they WANT you to do and the amount of time/energy it takes to get the job done. industry standards are between .20 - .60 per square foot. some companies even charge upwards of .80 per sq. foot but those are in area w/o as many cleaning companies around to give them competition. but basically if the job calls for regular carpet cleaning (not vaccum but DEEP CLEANING), stipping/buffing, etc., then hit them up on the higher end of the spectrum

Thanks brah.

 

[phillyphilly]

there were almost a dozen that i hit overall, but the one i hit FIRST was the one the bgol op droped. that site is http://www.cleaningtalk.com/ and it's full of info on how to clean commercial sites profesionally, bidding price info, and a whole lot of other info....

Can you focus mainly on Commercial businesses? IE Restaurants?