BGOL BLACK PANTHER Movie Thread [Black Panther: Wakanda Forever drops on Disney+ 2/1/23]

D'Evils

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So........Namor is Indian?

Namor will be played here by Mexican actor Tenoch Huerta, previously seen in The Forever Purge and Tigers Are Not Afraid – with this incarnation of the character inspired by the culture and history of Mesoamerica. “You can take Atlantis from Greek myth, or you can adapt from a real culture,” argues Huerta.

 

2Klub

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Haven't looked much into it...

So, not recasting T'Challa...I've had mixed emotions about that. Even in the comic, he wasn't always Black Panther. I find it's interesting moving onto Shuri (sp) and using the movie as a way to REALLY celebrate and honor Chadwick (who to this day, actors and actresses have been passing away but his death caused an outpouring that I've really only seen around Prince, Whitney, Micheal Jackson, and fuck it even the Queen of England. It was like we mourned a king for real). Folks shouldn't sleep though, T'Chaka's children are all warriors who know how to kill.

Namor being molded after a central american culture was weird to me for a minute but the more I thought about it, I started to ask....
  1. Where would Atlantis have existed if ti were real?
  2. What color(s) would they have been?
  3. The world of BP celebrates a blending of cultures in beautiful ways, it would be great to see that with mexican and or south american cultures.
So I'm curious to see what they are going to do with it. If the actor is great, then Namor will be Namor and it will be good to see a non-white Anti-Hero.
 

SamSneed

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Haven't looked much into it...

So, not recasting T'Challa...I've had mixed emotions about that. Even in the comic, he wasn't always Black Panther. I find it's interesting moving onto Shuri (sp) and using the movie as a way to REALLY celebrate and honor Chadwick (who to this day, actors and actresses have been passing away but his death caused an outpouring that I've really only seen around Prince, Whitney, Micheal Jackson, and fuck it even the Queen of England. It was like we mourned a king for real). Folks shouldn't sleep though, T'Chaka's children are all warriors who know how to kill.

Namor being molded after a central american culture was weird to me for a minute but the more I thought about it, I started to ask....
  1. Where would Atlantis have existed if ti were real?
  2. What color(s) would they have been?
  3. The world of BP celebrates a blending of cultures in beautiful ways, it would be great to see that with mexican and or south american cultures.
So I'm curious to see what they are going to do with it. If the actor is great, then Namor will be Namor and it will be good to see a non-white Anti-Hero.
Remember how the pyramids are so similar

my belief is that the Olmecs are African, they sailed from west African and landed in Mexico, they taught the Indians how to build pyramids
 

2Klub

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Remember how the pyramids are so similar

my belief is that the Olmecs are African, they sailed from west African and landed in Mexico, they taught the Indians how to build pyramids

I was fortunate to have a college professor or several that lectured on “They Came Before Columbus”, history from an African paradigm, and the pyramids around the world. Lots of the early stone heads do look Nubian.
 

2Klub

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If I can channel my inner @COINTELPRO I tend to think Atlantis was likely a land bridge that was a part of North Africa. That said, I also think it’s peoples weren’t just located there, meaning they had colonies else where. No expert on it and not well versed but it seems like most ancient African histories are full of stories of exploration, expansion and cultural wisdom and development. Even by the times of Nafartiti and Alexander, how many times had the great libraries been burned? Tons of history lost.
 

playahaitian

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Ryan Coogler breaks down the emotional Black Panther: Wakanda Forever trailer

The writer-director opens up about the new trailer, featuring Riri Williams, Namor, and a mysterious new hero.
By Devan CogganOctober 03, 2022 at 09:07 AM EDT


Ryan Coogler is ready to return to Wakanda.

It's been more than four years since Black Panther hit theaters, shattering box office records and becoming a global superhero smash. Now, Marvel is revisiting the powerful African nation with Black Panther: Wakanda Forever, the highly-anticipated sequel debuting Nov. 11. Even as the release date creeps closer, plot details have largely been kept under wraps, with Marvel sharing a tantalizing teaser earlier this summer at San Diego Comic-Con. But the new Wakanda Forever trailer, released Monday, is the best look yet at Wakanda's future — and how the nation is grappling with the loss of its king, T'Challa (Chadwick Boseman, who died in 2020).

Coogler is back as the director and co-writer of Wakanda Forever, and EW caught up with him to break down some of the trailer's biggest reveals. Set after the events of Avengers: Endgame, the sequel finds T'Challa's beloved homeland grappling with its grief, while also navigating new threats. The trailer reintroduces several familiar faces, including Angela Bassett as the regal queen Ramonda, Lupita Nyong'o as the "war dog" spy Nakia, Letitia Wright as the brilliant princess Shuri, Winston Duke as the warrior M'Baku, and Danai Gurira as Dora Milaje leader Okoye.

After Boseman died, Marvel Studios announced that it would not recast the role of T'Challa. Instead, a new character would take up the Black Panther mantle. The trailer ends with a stunning look at the new Panther suit — but it doesn't reveal the identity of its wearer. (One clue: The new Panther appears to be a woman.)

Coogler began outlining the sequel soon after the first Black Panther hit theaters in 2018, only to rework it after Boseman's death. Returning without his friend and lead actor was emotional, but he describes the filmmaking process as "cathartic" — especially as a way to connect with the many cast and crew members who were also grappling with grief.

"I had to find a way that I felt like I could keep going and a way that our Black Panther family could keep going," Coogler explains. "I started to come up with a film that had elements of the film that we had just finished writing, but also applied the themes that the people who were hurting just as much as me could actually perform and execute and come out on the other side whole."


The trailer begins by juxtaposing shots of Wakanda and a new world: the underwater kingdom of Talocan. It's ruled over by the powerful leader Namor (Tenoch Huerta), making his Marvel Cinematic Universe debut. Coogler says he's long been a fan of the character, dating back to his childhood as a comic fan. "I would read them all the time before I became a full-time jock when I was younger and was just playing sports all the time," the director explains. "Even when I was doing that, I was still engaging in pop culture, watching Batman: The Animated Series or Power Rangers or the Batman movies. But I wasn't knee-deep in it, reading every book. Then, when I got to college, I found myself with a little more time to reengage with it again."

Instead of ruling over Atlantis, as he does in the comics, the Namor of Wakanda Forever hails from a new kingdom called Talocan, created for the film and inspired by ancient Mayan culture. It's a distinct nation with its own long history, but Coogler notes several key similarities between Talocan and Wakanda, describing both as a sort of "El Dorado" — an advanced civilization "hiding in plain sight."

For Namor himself, Coogler says he wanted to embrace the character's iconic look — right down to those signature ankle wings. "I think with making these types of movies, you've got to lean into the weird stuff, or you risk missing what makes it fun," Coogler says with a smile. "He's got really unique features and things that don't necessarily go together. He can breathe underwater, obviously, but he's got these little wings on his ankles. He's got pointy ears and walks around in his underwear. It's all fun, man."

The trailer also introduces Dominique Thorne as American inventor Riri Williams — a.k.a. Ironheart. The American teenager is a brilliant mind, much like Shuri, and she's using her incredible intellect to follow in the footsteps of the late Tony Stark. (After making her debut in Wakanda Forever, she'll star in her own Disney+ series, Ironheart, next year.) "The film deals with a lot of things, but one of them is foils — people who exist in contrast, but there's a thread of similarity," Coogler explains. "In this film, we get to see Shuri meet someone who has some things in common with her, but is also very, very different."

The lavish world-building of Wakanda Forever is on full display, and key Black Panther crew members like production designer Hannah Beachler and costume designer Ruth E. Carter (who both won Oscars for their work on Black Panther) are both returning for the sequel. Loki alum Autumn Durald takes over from Rachel Morrison as the sequel's cinematographer, and Coogler says he wanted to maintain the first film's rich world while also exploring new visual ideas. He points to the sequel's use of water and the color blue, as well as a switch from using spherical camera lenses to anamorphic ones.

"I think this film has the fog of loss over it, and anamorphic lenses warp the image a little bit," he explains. "Sometimes when you go through profound loss, it can warp how you look at the world."

The result, he hopes, is an emotional blockbuster that feels both epic and intimate. "What we were after was just making it feel tactile, even though it felt like a dream," Coogler explains. "The film should feel like a really wild dream that you would have, but where everything felt like it was really there."

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever hits theaters Nov. 11. Watch the trailer above, and stay tuned to EW.com for more exclusive coverage today.
 

Lou_Kayge

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They can eat a dick for killing off T'Challa too. There were other ways to take him off the grid for this movie if they felt it was too soon to recast.
 

playahaitian

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Pre-ordered as well, but sporadic seats were taken, as well as a whole row. Guessing family and friends Wakanda Forever watch party

yup

and some still covid nervous

rightfully so

some theatres still have some type of seating restrictions too

but So far everyone I know doing group viewings.
 

alexw

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Remember how the pyramids are so similar

my belief is that the Olmecs are African, they sailed from west African and landed in Mexico, they taught the Indians how to build pyramids
They didn't teach the Indians they are the Indians
 

OmariAmaru

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I honestly hope is good as the first, with all the delays and in-house issues. Same director so hopefully it can make the numbers BP did. Wishing for the best, on the strength of the memory of Chad. R.I.P.
 
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