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BGOL Adult Topic: what do you think happens in the afterlife?

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I've got 2 interesting threads going for the thinking members of the board. This is my 2nd and last one of the night, but I really wanted to see what others were feeling. I'll start of w/ my conclusion before explaining...I don't think it's possible to understand.

I think if God just decided to show us right now, we wouldn't have the ability to comprehend. I'll use the net as an example.

Say you take a 2 month old child and sit him down in front of your laptop. You tell him all about the internet and how he can send messages that arrive in seconds, order gifts, control bank accounts, transmit images, etc. Obviously, he wouldn't be able to understand it, but THAT DOES'T MEAN THAT THE WEB DOESN'T WORK OR ISN'T REAL!!! He just doesn't have the ability to understand.

Well, later in life he would develop that ability. Same with man. I think the afterlife is on a whole different level, and man is = to the child I referenced above. Just because we don't know, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It just means we aren't on that level yet! But, I can all but guarantee you it's a lot deeper than flying around being happy for ETERNITY! Just my .02!

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The first questions is...


Is there a such thing as an afterlife....? You discount the fact the it's probably another construct made my man to understand the universe around him. I.E. a child thinking that there are people in the speakers making the sound come out..." little girl there's nothing in those speakers... it's just air, wires tin foil and electricity"...Kids never think the idea of people in the speakers though, because if they did they'd start to ask about the old speaker we threw away ,and the people that were inside them. I say enjoy the music (life) while you can, and stop worrying about what's in side the speaker... it's not that interesting.
 
BOXERS_ALMIGHTY said:
The first questions is...


Is there a such thing as an afterlife....? You discount the fact the it's probably another construct made my man to understand the universe around him. I.E. a child thinking that there are people in the speakers making the sound come out..." little girl there's nothing in those speakers... it's just air, wires tin foil and electricity"...Kids never think the idea of people in the speakers though, because if they did they'd start to ask about the old speaker we threw away ,and the people that were inside them. I say enjoy the music (life) while you can, and stop worrying about what's in side the speaker... it's not that interesting.
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Very intriguing. I may have to stay over here w/ my sistas!:yes:
 
I see this is referenced for the women of the board but since spades have been broken already I will chime in.


I believe that the "afterlife" is what you make it. I do not believe that there is another physical realm that people transcend to. Rather a state of mind that upon death we create for ourselves according to how we have lived our lives in coordination to what we believe is just and evil. And where we honestly believe we belong.

In short. If you know you doing wrong and living a corrupt life then you are going to "hell", whatever your personal hell might be. And if you attempted to live and upstanding life and pursued what you feel to be righteousness to the best of your abilities then you go to "heaven", whatever your personal heaven might be.
 
I think there is something else out there... but what, idk. Do I believe in reincarnation, somewhat... Do I believe in the concepts of Heaven & Hell... somewhat, but sort of in the way that DarkCity mentioned.... I don't believe that when you die your soul dies too... that would be too simplistic, and if we are to believe in God or anything else spiritual, we'd know it can't just be that...
 
Nothin. Seems to me that our perception as individuals end with the body. I certainly don't believe personalities survive death -- they don't even survive brain damage. My .02 is that when we die: lights out, party's over, heats on the griddle, and you already greased.
 
Life is but a dream... our lives are Borrowed from the Lord (the Most High) and must return to that Source.

I tend to favor reincarnation and past and future lives. Whether ancestral or otherwise.

Who can say in the end?
 
Dert Bagg said:
Nothin. Seems to me that our perception as individuals end with the body. I certainly don't believe personalities survive death -- they don't even survive brain damage. My .02 is that when we die: lights out, party's over, heats on the griddle, and you already greased.
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Amen. Enjoy it while you can.
 
Dert Bagg said:
Nothin. Seems to me that our perception as individuals end with the body. I certainly don't believe personalities survive death -- they don't even survive brain damage. My .02 is that when we die: lights out, party's over, heats on the griddle, and you already greased.
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pretty much sums it up.....
 
LETS BE REAL,

SAY YOU GO TO HEAVEN: WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO IN HEAVEN?

OK,

YOU'LL:

1. SEE GOD, CHAT HIM/HER UP, SEE WHAT'S UP
2. GET ASSIGNED A JOB IN HEAVEN
3. FEEL GOOD YOU GOT INTO HEAVEN, TALK TO THE ANGELS
4. SIT AROUND ON THE CLOUDS

EVENTUALLY:

1. GROW TIRED OF GOD'S STORIES, YOU'VE HEARD THEM ALL ( I created this...I created that...blah blah blah)
2. YOUR JOB IN HEAVEN HAS NO UNION OR HEALTH CARE PLAN; EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE ALREADY DEAD, IT'S THE PRINCIPAL OF THE MATTER. YOU HATE YOUR BOSS, HE DOES UNDERSTAND SPIRITS IN YOUR TIME..
3. YOU FIND TO BECOME AN ANGEL, YOU HAVE PLEDGE TO THE ANGEL LEAGUE AND THERE IS A HAZING PROCESS. YOU SAY "FUCK THAT." THE ANGELS ARE BORING ANYWAY...THEY ARE STUCK UP...
4. SITTING AROUND ON CLOUDS GETS VERY BORING, THE HARP REMIXES HAVE POOR SOUND QUALITY....AND WITHOUT THE DRUMS, MUSIC IS REDUNDANT...

SOLUTION:

1. PARTY IN HELL ON THE WEEKENDS, THEY HAVE BEST CLUBS. THEY HAVE THE HOTTEST DJ'S AND YOU CAN FUCK WITHOUT GUILT
2. THE OTHER OPTION: CHOOSE TO GO BACK TO EARTH AND DO THAT SHIT ALL OVER AGAIN....
 
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DaleMabry said:
Life is but a dream... our lives are Borrowed from the Lord (the Most High) and must return to that Source.

I tend to favor reincarnation and past and future lives. Whether ancestral or otherwise.

Who can say in the end?
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I tend to look towards nature for ideas. In the natural, the body dies, decays, turns into mushrooms or patches of clover- transformation. I believe in transformation from one form to another. I think parts of the soul survive- a pearl on a string of collective experiences and conciousness and hence my belief in reincarnation.

As Dale mentioned who is really to say? Only thing for sure, the only fixed reference point is this moment. Death is a mystery, but life is basically moment to moment.
 
Sleep is the twin brother to death. Just as you sleep and dream, your subconscious mind will live on after death. As far as heaven and hell, that exists right here on earth. Our life choices and decisions we make can either cause a blissful existence or "hell on earth" as it is often referred. Life is really all about choices. Only difference is that in death you have run out of options.
 
I think for some people there is life after death. But i'am not talking about heaven and hell more like something in between. People who can't leave there earthly possessions, thoughts, and feelings behind get held back here. For others there's nothing. Hopefuly for me, I'll reach a second life. One that's just a little better than the one i'am living now.
 
Iron said:
I think for some people there is life after death. But i'am not talking about heaven and hell more like something in between. People who can't leave there earthly possessions, thoughts, and feelings behind get held back here. For others there's nothing. Hopefuly for me, I'll reach a second life. One that's just a little better than the one i'am living now.
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If what I read here from you is a true indication of your character Iron, I think you'll make it ;) I wish the same for myself- not a better life per se, I have a good life and I'm thankful, but perhaps one where I can be a kinder, more enlightened soul in general.
 
the concept of life after death is really only something you can either entertain or use to entertain. It's not as simple as is there life on other planets, because we have been indoctrinated to believe in heaven or hell, thus when we think of life after death, we start to feel guilty about that last scheme, or maybe feel self-righteous. I personally believe that the ego either has to realize itself again, or it just doesn't. Which is the major concern that most demagogues, religious or secular, base their diatribes on. Will I remember my SELF in the after life. Sometimes I realize I'm dreaming...other times I don't...most of us can't remember being in our mother's wombs...but we were...


YBO
 
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Jam_Jam said:
Sleep is the twin brother to death. Just as you sleep and dream, your subconscious mind will live on after death. As far as heaven and hell, that exists right here on earth. Our life choices and decisions we make can either cause a blissful existence or "hell on earth" as it is often referred. Life is really all about choices. Only difference is that in death you have run out of options.
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I though sleep and death were cousins?
--but really how might the subconcious mind live on after death? I don't think the brain dead can dream.
 
PussyMan said:
Journey Of Souls: Case Studies of Life Between Lives

http://www.amazon.com/dp/1567184855/?tag=vp314-20

Via hypnotic regressions into past lives and the period inbetween lives psychologists have been able to answer the questions U are trying to discuss here.

Eastern religions have known the answers for years but Westerners are to dumb to listen to what they are saying.

Dr. Brian Weiss publications http://www.amazon.com/s/?tag=vp314-20
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Well I guess that's settled. :rolleyes:
Who knew Amazon had the final answer to this eternal question after all... :rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
Dert Bagg said:
I though sleep and death were cousins?
--but really how might the subconcious mind live on after death? I don't think the brain dead can dream.
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The Quran says that sleep and death are twin brothers, not cousins. I guess it would depend on what "good" book you are reading. It's not the brain that lives on, it's the spirit. The spirit cannot be seen with the naked eye. It has nothing to do with your physical being in any way, shape or form. It is the real you that only God truly knows. I believe you said you were an athiest, so you and I would have differing opinions on this subject.
 
Jam_Jam said:
The Quran says that sleep and death are twin brothers, not cousins. I guess it would depend on what "good" book you are reading. It's not the brain that lives on, it's the spirit. The spirit cannot be seen with the naked eye. It has nothing to do with your physical being in any way, shape or form. It is the real you that only God truly knows. I believe you said you were an athiest, so you and I would have differing opinions on this subject.
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:D I was mostly jokin about Nas reference to sleep being the cousin to death. But yeah, the spirit being the real YOU that exists outside of the brain?...we certainly disagree there. But from that perspective how would you feel about keeping a person on life support? Would you see the soul as always detached from the body or would the body have to finally die for the spirit to move on?
 
Dert Bagg said:
:D I was mostly jokin about Nas reference to sleep being the cousin to death. But yeah, the spirit being the real YOU that exists outside of the brain?...we certainly disagree there. But from that perspective how would you feel about keeping a person on life support? Would you see the soul as always detached from the body or would the body have to finally die for the spirit to move on?
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I don't agree with keeping people on life support. Life support is given so that the living loved ones do not feel hopeless. I see life support as keeping someone's soul from resting. It's like teetering on that threshold between life and death. A soul does not leave a body that has a beating heart and a functioning brain. It's like coming out from under the effects of anesthesia. You're trying to wake up, but the drugs won't let you. In this case, you're trying to go to sleep but the life support won't let you. When God wants you, He wants you. Using machines to question God's judgment is not wise in my opinion.
 
Izayoi said:
I tend to look towards nature for ideas. In the natural, the body dies, decays, turns into mushrooms or patches of clover- transformation. I believe in transformation from one form to another. I think parts of the soul survive- a pearl on a string of collective experiences and conciousness and hence my belief in reincarnation.

As Dale mentioned who is really to say? Only thing for sure, the only fixed reference point is this moment. Death is a mystery, but life is basically moment to moment.
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You are mad smart. And that is HOT. :yes:

...just sayin'. :D
 
My concept of "God" is the interconnectedness of all things if that makes any sense to you. Combine that with basic principles of physics such as "energy is neither created nor destroyed" and recognize that we and all physical matter are energy. Somehow, in these bodies we are to a large extent very disconnected from the interconnectedness or oneness. I believe when we "die" we become one with everything again. Again, this is just speculation. I don't know either because I haven't been there yet or because I can't remember the last time I was there.
 
DaleMabry said:
You are mad smart. And that is HOT. :yes:

...just sayin'. :D
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Thanks Dale, but not really! When I learn how to set the time on my oven I'll be doing something. :o

bigirl said:
My concept of "God" is the interconnectedness of all things if that makes any sense to you. Combine that with basic principles of physics such as "energy is neither created nor destroyed" and recognize that we and all physical matter are energy. Somehow, in these bodies we are to a large extent very disconnected from the interconnectedness or oneness. I believe when we "die" we become one with everything again. Again, this is just speculation. I don't know either because I haven't been there yet or because I can't remember the last time I was there.
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Good thoughts Bi- that's a very taoist philosophy.
 
bigirl said:
My concept of "God" is the interconnectedness of all things if that makes any sense to you. Combine that with basic principles of physics such as "energy is neither created nor destroyed" and recognize that we and all physical matter are energy. Somehow, in these bodies we are to a large extent very disconnected from the interconnectedness or oneness. I believe when we "die" we become one with everything again. Again, this is just speculation. I don't know either because I haven't been there yet or because I can't remember the last time I was there.
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BG, I pretty much believe something along these lines also--but I do believe there is a "conscious" (dunno if I would recognize the nature of this consciousness) decision to disconnect, form a Being or Soul, then be born and live out a life with a particular mission or purpose to be served in the allotted span. But again, as you say, speculation.
 
DaleMabry said:
BG, I pretty much believe something along these lines also--but I do believe there is a "conscious" (dunno if I would recognize the nature of this consciousness) decision to disconnect, form a Being or Soul, then be born and live out a life with a particular mission or purpose to be served in the allotted span. But again, as you say, speculation.
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Well the Buddhists say you choose each life including your parents and everything. Also that all the people you run into you knew in previous lives. According to them, we are all playing out karma that is infinite lifetimes old.
Explains deja vu pretty well. :dunno:
 
Buddhism has a pretty strong influence on my beliefs as well...I think its interesting that West African spiritual beliefs traditionally included reincarnation but along familial / genetic lines...yet another influence on me...the idea that your kids might actually be the return of very old ancestors of yours...
 
DaleMabry said:
Buddhism has a pretty strong influence on my beliefs as well...I think its interesting that West African spiritual beliefs traditionally included reincarnation but along familial / genetic lines...yet another influence on me...the idea that your kids might actually be the return of very old ancestors of yours...
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I definitely feel a strong pull towards that as well.
 
Don't really know, but I figure that if I do the right thing in life, whatever happens will be positive. Karma can be a real bitch and I don't want to be on the wrong side of that one.
 

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