Which LIE is worse: Christianity's lie about Jesus or Bush's lie about WMD's?
[B]Which LIE is worse: Christianity's lie about Jesus or Bush's lie about WMD's?[/B]
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Christianity's Lie is worse cause that one has had people brainwashed for centurys and more to come.
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BLACK JESUS - IF RACE DOESN'T MATTER, WHY DOES THE LIE SURVIVE?
by Ifeanyi Ochonogor
The Universe is some 13.7 billion years old and the Earth 4.6 billion years. The stirring of civilization as we know it started from Black Egypt less than 10,000 years ago. From the Osirian reign in Egypt in 4100 BCE, Africans began to teach the rest of mankind farming, industrialization, commerce, and how to organize cities and nation states, while the African religion, the Mystery System, (which is the mother of all the religions of the world), began its uninterrupted supremacy until about 2000 years ago.
Africans from Ethiopia and Egypt colonized Mesopotamia and Elam in 4000 BCE to teach the rudiments of civilization and introduce African religion (spirituality), which with eventual emphasis on Nimrod, whose after life image is carved from that of Ausar (Osiris), went through several phases to become Zoroastrianism. The African religion also gave birth to the Islamic religion in Persia, 1000 years before the birth of Muhammad. The Dravidians from Ethiopia took Hinduism to India in 3200 BCE. In 1640 BCE, 70 Hebrews entered Egypt but some 3,154,000 African-Hebrews left Egypt in 1230 BCE, under the leadership of the African prince called Moses. Moses trained in the Mystery System as a prince for 40 years and adapted its laws for his followers. Arabs are a hybrid of Africans and Caucasians. Muhammad was born in 570 CE and he adopted the Babylonian (African) religion that was already 1000 years old from Persia during his time.
The basis of morality, justice, resurrection, virgin birth, Holy Ghost, Trinity, humanized Trinity, the notion of the last judgment, with Ausar as judge (God) of the dead, myths and philosophies of all religions, law and order in society, what constitutes good governance and democracy, all originated from the 'Great Quarrel'' and the 'Judgment of the Night of Weighing Words,' of the Mystery System.
Also in the 'Great Quarrel,' is the origin of the 'Virgin Birth,' and the Immaculate Conception myths, four thousand, four hundred and twenty-five years before the Christian version. Still clearly visible today in the Temple of Ausar (Osiris), in Abydos, are pictures of the 'Virgin Birth' and the 'Resurrection,' showing Osiris' penis perpendicular to his body as the symbol of resurrection and 'Virgin Birth.'
The Tomb of Pharaoh Rameses VI, in the Valley of the Kings, shows the forty-two Admonitions of Goddess Maat, out of which Moses copied his 'Ten Commandments,' thousands of years later. The laws on morality and human behaviour are known as the 'Admonitions of Goddess Maat,' the Goddess of Justice and law. Africans introduced the concept of the feather of truth, and the scale as the symbol of justice.
Africans gave the world the concept against murder as a result of the judgment of the 'Great Quarrel' between Auset, Heru and Set. Heru (who the Greeks called Horus), and all the other Gods, saw the murder of Ausar by his brother Set, as evil. A murder that preceded the Cain and Abel copy story by four thousand, four hundred and twenty-five years.
Africans gave the world the concepts of Heaven and Hell and all the aligned concepts copied by all the religions of the world. The African Mystery System gave the concept of good and evil, truth and lie (deceit), and the feather of truth (i.e. that truth is weightless and lie requires several layers of lies to sustain it). That righteousness is superior to might and steel. That virtue will be rewarded in Empyrean-abode of blissful spiritual life after death, and that our ancestors do not die. Ausar (Osiris) ascended into heaven. The evil and deceitful roast perpetually in Hell. Reward for the righteous is sometimes slow but always certain. No evil doer will escape punishment, which influenced the law of Karma in Buddhism. These laws were settled when Heru, the one and only Son of God Ausar by 'Virgin Birth,' took his Uncle Set to court. Heru's triumph in court established that patience, honesty, truthfulness and goodness will defeat evil and might in the court of just men.
Cheikh Anta Diop: (The African Origin of Civilization: Myth or Reality, edited and translated by Mercer Cook, Lawrence Hill Co., USA), tells us that: “A visitor to Thebes in the Valley of the Kings in Egypt can view the 'inferno' in details (in the tomb of Seti I of the nineteenth Dynasty). Osiris at the tribunal of the dead is indeed the Lord of revealed religions, sitting enthroned on Judgment Day.” Africans created God Ausar, the Lord of all religions, sitting in Judgment over the dead. He is righteous, noble, beyond fault, and his brother, God Set (Setan or Seth), evil personified, would not obey his own laws, and contesting realm of influence (human souls) with his elder brother.
Diop says, “ from a famous passage from the Book of the Dead in which the deceased renders an account of his earthly acts before the Tribunal presided over by the God Ausar (Osiris), it is readily seen that Judaism, Christianity and Islam, took their dogma of the Last Judgment from the text: I have not sinned against men… I have done nothing to displease the gods; I have indisposed no one against his superior. I have not let anyone go hungry. I have not made anyone weep. I have not killed, nor ordered anyone to kill. I have not touched the bread of the gods. I have not stolen offerings to the blessed dead. I have not reduced the measure of grain. I have not shortened by one cubit nor cheated on weights. I have not taken milk away from the mouth of the child, I have not removed cattle from the pasture, I have not dammed floodwater during its period… I have done no damage to herd, property, or temple funds. Be praised, O God! See I come to you without sin, without evil… I have done what is pleasing to the gods. I have given bread to the hungry, water to the thirsty, clothes to the naked, a boat to him who had none. I have made offerings to the gods and funeral gifts to the blessed dead. Save me, protect me. You will not accuse me before the Great God. I am a man with pure mouth and pure heart. Those who see me say, welcome. “
African Deities are Gods spelt with capital letter 'G' and are attributes of the 'One Source,' the 'Uncreated Creator,' who is Tu-SoS, or Judaism's En-Sof, and is beyond God or Gods. The Christian religion worships African humanized deities in Horus as Jesus, and Ausar/Seth as Yahweh (or Kether), one of the ten attributes of the One Source called En-Sof in Judaism. This is why the Bible claims that God created man in His image and likeness. Humans are too evil to be in the image and likeness of Tu-SoS/En-Sof. In the image of the Human God Ausar, of course, yes. The Bible describes Yahweh (God) as the Ancient of Days, having hair like pure wool. Of course, Ausar was African, and had hair like pure wool, so changing his name to Yahweh was not enough to change the ancient concept of God as Ausar. The first human cloned by Anu's race, our extraterrestrial ancestors, was Black. The human race is one and Black from the cradle.
Ausar (Osiris) the Egyptian Redeemer-God atoned for human sins by sacrificing himself. Church fathers claimed that Jesus (Christo) too had washed away the sins of his followers through his crucifixion. Ausar died nailed in a chest and resurrected to save humankind, four thousand, four hundred and twenty-five years before the story of Jesus was concocted. Jesus rose from the Sepulcher in c33 CE? Christian fathers had to claim the resurrection of Jesus because that was the only way Christianity could compete on equal, if not superior terms, with the Mystery System it was trying to suppress. Ausar rose to heaven to sit in judgment over the dead in the African myth.
Ausar's resurrection led to the 'Judgment Day' saga, and is the source of the 'Second Coming' of Jesus' story. Jesus, like Ausar, could forgive sins, bring the dead back to life, live a sinless life, heal the sick, and that he was the anointed Son of God. By juggling for Jesus, the characteristics of Horus and Virgin Birth, with those of his father, God Ausar, (the Holy Ghost), Jesus naturally emerged for the Church fathers as the special and only Son of God. These were not strange claims at the time, however. African imitation saviour-gods of the Mexicans, Mayas, Aztecs made similar claims and died to save mankind by being nailed to crosses or tied to trees, with arms outstretched as if on a cross, or slain violently in other manner, 625 years before the story of Jesus Christ was fabricated. Even to the Edo, Nigeria, their Oba was the only son of God 365 years before Christianity.
Suffering was the principal tenet of all religions. The implication was that the foundation of the world was impossible until God performed some sacrifice. Since all religions claim that there was no life, culture or anything worth preserving until they came along, tribal traditions and religious fathers were not advocating anything more outrageous than the dawn of manifestation, which is by sacrifice in Hinduism (Bhagavad Gita, iii 10). In Islam, the creator fashioned himself in due proportion and breathed into him something of his spirit (Holy Koran XXXII, 9). The Bible claims in the Book of Revelation: “the lamb was slain for the foundation of the world,” (Rev. XIII, 8).
Edicts of Theodosius and Toleration (4th and 6th Centuries) Towards the end of the fourth century CE, the African religion, the Mystery System, still dominated the world of religion so Rome passed the Edict of Theodosius, ordering the closure of all Egyptian temples. This was to allow the still struggling Christian religion to gain popular support. In the Island of Philae, in the first cataract of the Nile, the African religion refused to accept Christianity and the Roman government fearing a rebellion, paid tribute to them as an appeasement. During the sixth century CE, Justinian issued the Edit of Toleration, suppressing the remnant of the African religion in Egypt and propagating Christianity among the Nubians.
According to George G.M.James, “The abolition of the Egyptian Mysteries was to create an opportunity for the adoption of Christianity. This was the problem. The Roman government felt that Egypt was now conquered in arms and reduced to her knees, but in order to make the conquest complete, it would be necessary to abolish the Mysteries, which still controlled the religious mind of the ancient world. There must be a New World Religion to take the place of the Egyptian Religion. This New Religion, which should take the place of the Mysteries, must be equally powerful and universal, and consequently everything possible must be done in order to promote its interests.”
G.G.M James quoting from Sedgwick and Tyler (History of Science), and Zeller's (Hist. of Phil. Introduction) says; “With the abolition of the Egyptian Mystery System, intellectual darkness spread over Christian Europe and the Graeco-Roman world for ten centuries; during which time, knowledge had disappeared. The Greeks showed no creative powers, and were unable to improve upon knowledge which they had received from the Egyptians.”
With the death of the last Egyptian priest who could interpret the writing of the words of the gods (the hieroglyphics), the African religion in its original form began to sink into oblivion. Despite the cannibalization of African religions, cultures, philosophies, traditions, ideas, and our eventual loss of political leadership of the world, African ideas continue to dominate the world of religion and learning and also symbolically. Residues of African religious influence in Europe are still visible albeit in symbolic forms. The Roman she–wolf is a reminder of the southern black practice of totemism and Sabine contains the root of Sheba.
Joseph Vendryes, (French Professor of Linguistics, edit. Etudes Celtques) tells us that: “In fact, inscriptions have been found in which Isis is associated with the city of Noreia. Noreia today is Neumarkt in Styria (Austria). Isis, Osiris, Serapis, Anubis have altars in Frejus, Nimes, Arles, Riez (Basses-Alpes), Parizet (Isere), Manduel (Gard), Boulogne, (Haute-Garonne), Lyons, Besancon, Langres, and Soissons. Isis was honoured at Melun, at York, Brougham Castle, Pannonia and Noricum.” Pierre Hubac (Carthage) says: “Worship of the Black Madonna still survives in France. (Our Lady Underground, or the Black Madonna of Chartres). It remained so vivid that the Roman Catholic Church finally had to consecrate it. The very name of the French capital might be explained by the Isis cult. The term 'Parisii could well mean Temple of Isis.' For there was a city with that name on the banks of the Nile, and the hieroglyph per represents the enclosure of a temple on the Oise.”
Cheikh Anta Diop: (The African Origin of Civilization) confirms that: “The first inhabitants of the present site of Paris, who fought against Caesar, bore the name Parisii, for some reason unknown today. The worship of Isis was evidently quite widespread in France, especially in the Parisian basin; temples of Isis, in Western parlance, were everywhere. But it would be more exact to say” Houses of Isis,” for in Egyptian, these so called temples were called Per, the exact meaning of which in ancient Egyptian, as in present-day Wolof (Senegal), is: the enclosure surrounding the house. The name 'Paris' could have resulted from the juxtaposition of Per-Isis, a word that designated certain cities in Egypt. There is also the existence of the god Ani among the Irish and Etruscans. The Egypto-Phoenician impact on the Etruscans is quite clear, as it is on the Sabines, whose name and customs suggests southern Black civilization. Sabines and Etruscans buried their dead in the Italian peninsula. The Etruscans knew and utilized the Egyptian sarcophagus….. '
Godfrey Higgins in Anacalypsis, Vol. 1, tells us “we have found the Black complexion or something relating to it whenever we have approached the origins of nations. The Alma Mater, the Goddess Multimammia, the founders of the oracles, the Memnon or first idols were always Black. Venus, Jupiter, Apollo, Bacchus, Hercules, Ammon, Asteroth, Adonis, Horus, Apis, Osiris, in short all the wood and stone Deities were Black. They remain as they were first made in very remote times.” In the Celtic Druids, Higgins says: “The Greek gods were adaptations of the Egyptian ones, hence the earliest ones of Greece were also Black. 'Ethiop is a title of Zeus who was the Father of the Gods among the Greeks.”
Romain Rolland noted French writer in his (Intermediare de Chercheurs at des Curieux Vol. 34) states that “the majority of the Virgins that are revered in the celebrated pilgrimages are Black. At Boulogne-Sur-mer, the sailors still carry a Black Virgin in their procession. At Claremont in Auvergne, the Black Virgin is revered as also at Einsiendeln, Switzerland, near Zurich, to which thousands of pilgrims (Swiss, Bavarians, Alsatians), go to pay homage. The famous Virgin of Oropa in the Piedmont is still a Black woman, as well as the not less legendary one at Montserrat in Catalonia, which received 60,000 visitors a year. I have been able to trace the history of this one to the year 718 CE, and it was always Black. Tradition says that it was St. Luke who knew personally the Mother of Christ, and carved with his own hand, the majority of these Black Virgins. Virgin Mother was Black in ancient times all over the world: France, Switzerland. Italy, Spain…”
J.A. Roger (100 Amazing Facts about the Negro) says, “the earliest statues of the Virgin Mary and Christ in Europe as far as Russia, were Black. That the oldest and most noted statue in the world, the Sphinx of Gizeh, bears a Black face and was worshipped as Horus, or Harmachis, the Sun God of Light and Life. The devil, which is now depicted as Black, was before the advent of White power, portrayed as White.” In (A book of the beginnings Vol. 2, London 1881), Gerald Massey says: “The Black Jesus (Horus) is a well-known form of the child-Christ worshipped on the (European) continent where the Black bambino, the pet image of the Italian Church is as popular as Chrishna, the Black Christ of India – the Divine son was incarnated in Black flash from the Black Sut Nashi, the Black image of the earliest god (Osiris)…. And finally, the Black Jesus of the Christian cult is the son of the (Black) Virgin Mother in the Romish Church.”
Edouard Schure, a noted French writer on religion and mysticism in (Les Grand Inities, 113th edition, Paris 1931) says; “Remembrances of them have disappeared from popular tradition. The Blacks, however, have left two ineffaceable imprints in Europe: the horror of the dragon, which was the emblem of their kings… and the idea that evil or the devil is White which Whites reversed… During the time of their sovereignty, the Blacks had religious centres in Upper Egypt and in India. Their cyclopean cities embattled the mountains of Africa, the Caucasus, and Central Asia.”
St. Paul (c10-c 67 CE). He was a Jew. His Hebrew name was Saul. He was a Pharisee lawyer, tax collector, involved in the persecution of Christians. He claimed that while on one of his raids on tax dodging Christians in Damascus, he was arrested by God. He saw an apparition and was converted to Christianity on the spot. Without him, Christianity would not have taken roots. He spread the religion throughout the Roman provinces, Europe, Asia, Macedonia, and reinforced the concept in Greece and Rome. He was deeply involved in the administrative structuring and running of the early Church. Most documents on him suggest he was executed in Rome between 64 and 67 CE.
Paul's epistles constitute the second half of the New Testament and form aspects of Christian teachings. He preached that man is made up of three parts, spirit, soul and body, and that we are all “Sons of God.” Said he, “Know ye not that ye are the temple of God and that the spirit of God dwelleth in you? “ He taught that Christ was in the heart of each man, “until Christ be formed in you,” or until “the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ.” St. Paul talked about superhuman beings who before earth's formation, brought knowledge to man through a long evolutionary process, and described man's relationship with God as a descending order of intelligence as in “thrones, dominions, principalities and powers.” John's Book of Revelation also makes similar point in “Cloud of Silent Witnesses before the Throne-Seraphim, Cherubim and Thrones.” These gradations have become de-emphasized in Christianity as stages of spiritual evolution. The concept of the seven spirits before the throne of God is recognized in the scriptures and the Roman Catholic Church speaks of revered angels in aid of man and nature. Church Fathers' elevation of Jesus to a deity, or the “only son of God” concept, downgraded personal responsibility for evolutionary spiritual growth in the Christian religion.
Council of Nicaea (325 CE). Dr. Martyn Percy, the famous canon expert once wrote and I quote: “The Bible did not arrive by fax from heaven.” The Bible is a creation of man. Man, not God, writes history, and history is always from the perspective of the conqueror, not the conquered. It is the elite, the most powerful in society, that defines the society's reality, and that is exactly what Constantine did after subduing African influence in the world.
In Emperor Constantine's days, the official Roman religion was Sun worship (i.e. the African Egyptian cult of Sol Invictus or the Invincible Sun). They called it the Jovian Mystery System and Constantine was the Chief priest. In fact, Constantine, a Pagan throughout his lifetime, was hurriedly baptized on his death bed, too weak to protest. During the reign of Constantine, and over three hundred years after the alleged crucifixion of Jesus, the Christian population had grown to the extent of posing serious threat to the unity of Rome.
The Christians were constantly warring with the Pagans and threatening to tear Rome apart. Constantine, a smart opportunist, decided to side with the larger group. History books on the issue marvel at the way Constantine converted his Sun God worshippers to Christianity. He did it by creating an amalgam, a hybrid, a fusion of Pagan symbols, dates, rituals, and ideas, into the growing Pagan-Christian traditions of the time, to produce something that compromised and overwhelmed both parties. Constantine produced a sacred entity outside the scope of the human world whose power was, therefore, unchallengeable by mare mortals, and called it the Roman Catholic Church. To do this, he conveyed his 325 CE Council of Nicaea that produced the Nicaea creed. The Nicaea Council is claimed by the Church fathers to have been called principally to thwart the Arian heresy and assert the headship of Jesus over Christendom.
The problem really was whether Auset (who was the Virgin Birth Mother in the ancient African Mystery System, imbibed by the Jovian Mystery, which was being adapted by the Church fathers, should continue to take precedence over her son Horus, as in the ancient African myth). In the end, Ausar (re-named Yahweh) retained his double roles as the Holy Ghost or God, (misunderstood by Christians as the universal 'Spirit'), and as (human 'Father' in the African Mysteries 4,425 years earlier), (who became the Christian Ghost Impregnator) of Mother Auset, re-named Mary, with the Virgin Son, Horus, (renamed Jesus).
In other words, “Holy” and “Virgin Birth” were transferred to Jesus and Mary, from Horus and Auset. Jesus became born in Bethlehem and acquired higher rank than his contrived mother. He was supposed to be her first child and to have been miraculously conceived. His foster-father was given the name Joseph, and the carpentry profession, to appeal to humility. The name 'Christ' came from the Greek translation of Christos (meaning anointed), taken from the Hebrew title of Messiah. Church fathers at the Nicaea Council in 325 CE, decided that Jesus, who was supposed to have been baptized as and called Emmanuel before the Conference, was born in Bethlehem in Judea. All these were happening some 325 years after the purported death of Jesus.
Constantine called and chaired the 325 CE Nicaea Council, which had 219 Bishops in attendance. Constantine's principal objective, (as admitted by him and emphasized in conference documents), was to settle the much-debated issue of God's relationship to his Son. Many Bishops turned down Constantine's invitation to the conference. Eusebius of Caesarea was one of the people who attended the Conference although he was not a Bishop. Eusebius was a well-known chronicler and defender of Christian monotheism at the time, and he wrote about what happened. All the issues raised at the Nicaea Council were debated and voted for, including the role of Bishops, the administration of sacraments, and the divinity of Jesus.
The Bishops had several sittings at the Council to perfect their strategy in the guise of separating truth from heresy. The story of how Bishop Arius was commanded by the Bishop of Alexandria to quit his beliefs or be declared a heretic, and how his writing were ordered destroyed, is eloquent of many things that happened when the Christian religion was being formulated. Bishop Arius was beheaded for saying Christ is not God. Read the lost books of the Bible. There is nothing divine about the Bible. Humans put it together under vicious acrimonious human circumstances.
The Christo in you, as preached by Paul, was the Christian emphasis until the Nicaea Council in 325 CE. Christo was not supposed to be a historical person. The vote to make Jesus (Christo), Christ, divine, human/spirit and the 'only Son of God,' was very close. The following statement is taken verbatim from 'The Encyclopaedia Britannica.'
“Constantine himself presided and actively guided the discussions. He personally proposed the crucial formula expressing the relation of Christ to God in the creed issued by the council as of one substance with the Father … .Overawed by the emperor, the bishops, with two exceptions only, signed the creed, many of them much against their inclination…….”
This is the most important creed in Christendom. It was proposed by the emperor to the consternation of many of the bishops in attendance. But out of fear not to offend the emperor, all but two of the bishops signed the creed. Today, the Church claims that Jesus is some special breed of God, and that the Bible is some divinely inspired document. Jesus' divinity was critical because if the Pagan God Horus, was divine and the only 'Son of God,' the new amalgam could not afford to be less so as a means of unifying the two warring Roman groups and the Roman Empire. By officially endorsing Jesus as the only 'Son of God,' Constantine turned Jesus into a deity. Historians agree that Constantine not only stole the mortal leadership and possible human message from the Church, he covered his invention, (Jesus Christ), with an iron cloak of divinity, to expand and enhance his personal political power base.
Nothing in Christianity was original. The Pagan's Sun disks became the haloes of the Catholic saints, and Auset's pictogram nursing her Virgin birth son Horus, became the model for the image of Virgin Mary nursing the baby Jesus. All the elements of the Catholic rituals, the mitre, the doxology, the altar, and the communion (act of God-eating), were all taken from African Pagans' rites. The Christians, whose original holy day was the Jewish Sabbath of Saturday, adopted the Pagan's holy day, Sunday. Constantine shifted the Christians' holy day to the Pagans' veneration day, Sunday. So, when Christians go to Church on Sundays, they are actually there paying tribute to the African Sun God.
The Passover, Feast of Tabernacles, Easter where all adapted from the Egyptian Mystery System. Easter dates were inserted in Christian usage by King James in Acts 12:4, where Easter was substituted for the Passover. It only exists in the King James' Bible. King James was forced to remove the word Easter from the new King James' Bible. Christians ought to know that Easter is a hoax; it has nothing to do with the supposed crucifixion or resurrection dates of Jesus Christ. After all, our birthdays do not fall on the same day of the week every year and on different months from year to year, do they?
Jesus' death anniversary is always on a Friday, of the week, and his resurrection is always on a Sunday of the same week, while the month moves from March to April, year to year. This is because it was based on the Pagans' changing cycles of the moon's rites. Eostre, the African goddess of spring's movement towards the rising sun was celebrated on the first Sunday after the first Vernal Equinox full moon by the Egyptians who believed that the sun died in winter and was reborn in spring.
The Christian Easter fixation with the moon ties with this African goddess of spring (vernal equinox) festival, and demonstrates the African Egyptian religious influence in the continued structuring of Christianity. Chosen date by the Christians, was also the first Sunday after the full moon following the vernal equinox, which falls on the Sunday before. The Easter moon is an imaginary one and cannot fall earlier than March 22 or later than April 25. The real moon usually appears one or two days later. Not many people know that the 'May Day' they celebrate is the Pagans' coming of spring when the earth comes back alive with renewed vigour and plentiful bounty
Semiramis, imaged after life on Auset, was worshipped as the Queen of Heaven and goddess of fertility. Ancient Babylonians believed that an egg fell into the Euphrates River from the moon from which Queen Ishtar was hatched. This moon egg was called Ishtar's egg. Buns were offered to the Queen of Heaven; the goddess of Ishtar and Rabbits were associated with the goddess of fertility because of their prolific nature. In Western Europe, it is traditional to eat hot-crossed buns on Easter Sunday morning. These small sweet buns are usually decorated with solar crosses made of white icing. They were consecrated in ancient Greece to the goddess of the sunrise, which is why you have 'sunrise services' in some churches in Easter. The forty days of mourning of Tammuz, instituted by Semiramis, when no meat was allowed to be eaten, has become the Christian Lent. Lent begins on Ash Wednesday and ashes were said to be the seed of the Indian fire god, Agni, who was deemed to have the power to forgive sins.
Trinity was inserted in Christian usage by King James in I John 5:7 and exists only in the King James' Bible. It was a miss representation of the African Trinity concept of God Auser whose ghost pregnated Goddess Auset to produce the Virgin Birth son, God Horus. Christians, after replacing Auset with fictitious Mary, removed (the female) Mary, from the Trinity; replaced Horus with Jesus, and invented a Joseph, a cheated husband by-stander. The Osirian worshipped cross is called the 'Ankh,' (the Horus' cross). The priests offered bread and wine at the Osirian rituals. Christians, 4,425 years after the Osirian origins of the concepts, worship over 40 crosses and offer bread and wine at what they call the 'Lord's Supper.' The original African cross was a square with four arms of equal length to signify peace and convey the natural union between male and female. Christians elongated one arm as a torture device. In fact, the Christian name for the cross, the crucifix, came from the Latin verb cruciare meaning to torture. The word cross, originated from the Africans and then through the Chaldeans to the Church. To cover up its origin, it is claimed that as Constantine and his soldiers approached Rome and were about to face what is known as the battle of Milvian Bridge, they saw a sign of the cross in the sky.
Ausar (Osiris) was born on the first of the intercalary days says Moret: “That is, on the 361st day of the year, which corresponds to the 26th of December, when we take into account the reform of the Egyptian calendar by Rome. The birthday of Ausar was observed by the Africans as the festival of Sol invictus, the (unconquered sun), the Saturn God of agriculture, for four thousand, four hundred and twenty-five years, before Christianity. Saturnalia was marked by seven days of merry making, feasting, and the exchange of gifts. The Roman Sun God worshippers reveled in Saturnalia festivals. Pope Julius I, arbitrarily fixed December 25th as the birthday of Jesus (Christo) in c350 CE. “What could have inspired Pope Julius I, to choose that date, only one day removed from the birthday of Osiris' which Rome had celebrated for centuries until then, unless it be the Egyptian tradition perpetuated by the Roman calendar,” asks Diop? Despite Pope Julius I proclamation of December 25th as Jesus Christo's birthday, the Church only began to observe it as the day of Nativity from the 5th century CE (i.e. some five hundred years after the supposed birth and death of Jesus).
St Nicholas, Santa Nikolaus, better known as Santa Claus, the patron saint of children whose feast day is actually Dec. 6, was incorporated into the Christmas festival to liven things up and replace the Sun-god worshippers' feasting, and exchange of gifts. Ausar (Osiris) was the God of agriculture and Diop says: “The idea of a tree associated with the birth of Jesus is taken from Osiris. Osiris' symbol was a tree without branches, set up to announce the resurrection of plant life. This was an impressive agrarian rite characterizing a sedentary society. The plant, symbol of Osiris, was called Djed: standing erect, planted upright. Djan: vertical; Djed-Djed oral: very erect (intensification of Djed); Djen: a post. …..once again we see, on retracing the course of time, that more than one feature of western civilization, whose origin has been forgotten loses its enigmatic character when linked with its African source.”
The Egyptian God Ausar (Osiris) was anointed by an Egyptian priest in 4100 BCE. Jesus was allegedly baptized or initiated by John the Baptist in early CE. Egyptian “Ab” – heart, represents Osiris. A person with 'Pure, Light' heart is Osiris in the Pagan's mysteries. He is as 'Light' as 'Feather.' Every person's heart is weighed on Isis or Goddess Maat's feather scale. To balance on it, is to be Osiris pure and sinless. This is Osiris' conquering power over all as 'Lord and God.' Christianity and other religions adopted these African concepts, replacing the African God Horus with their own intermediaries, (i.e. Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha, etc).
Osirian Goddess Maat (with wings), handled the orderliness of the world. The Christian's replaced Goddess Maat with Angles with wings, as deities' messengers to humans. The Osirians' most powerful creature symbol is the sefer a.k.a griffin. The Asiatic religions' and Christianity's most powerful creature symbol over 6000 years after the Egyptian example, is also the griffin. The Deity 'Djehuti, the sayer of the logos (word), tells Virgin Isis (Auset) in about 4100 BCE, that she will give birth to a son, the righteous divine heir namely: Horus. An angel announces to Virgin Mary in about 4 BCE, “You will conceive in your womb and give birth to a son.”
African Egyptian Serpent Goddess Meretseger was the guardian of the Valley of the Kings. The Goddess of Asiatic religions holds two snakes she tamed. The Indian androgyny deity of the Krishna sect also holds two snakes and the Ankh. Not to be outdone, Christianity's Eve receives apple from the snake. Fish facing opposite directions in circular motion represented the Trinity 6000 years ago in the African Mystery System, so too in Christianity now. The Pyramid with the Eye of the African God Horus represents Horus the Supreme One in his house (Pyramid). The Christian symbol of Trinity is the pyramid (triangle) embodying the Eye. The Eye of Jehovah in Christianity represents Jesus as a child and master of nature. So too is the significance of Buddha's Eyes or Krishna's Eyes, as child and master of nature.
In the Mystery System, 6,108 years ago, Set (or Seth), the African God and king of Egypt who killed his brother, God king Ausar, to usurp his throne in Egypt, was going to kill Horus, who was Ausar's son by virgin birth. Set, with his men, searched every nook and cranny of the Lower Delta of the Nile for Horus. Her mother, goddess Auset, had hid Horus in Butto (in the belly of Africa), and Set could not find Horus. In the Christian copy story, Herod the king, 4,425 years after Set's incidence, was going to kill the little boy Jesus. Herod had his men check every family and every household, for this supposedly baby boy. Goddess Yashoda, a virgin, flees with her son, Krishna, to save him from a tyrant ruler.
The Celibacy. Ausar's resurrection without his phallus was the original reason religious leaders, nuns, and monks, were psychologically castrated or had to be celibate. After Adam and Eve were invented and Auset and Horus were replaced with Mary and Jesus, eating of the forbidden fruit and lust replaced the original reason for celibacy. Assumption of the Virgin. Pope Pius XII, in late 1950, proclaimed Mary's ascent to heaven after her imaginary death. Protestants are not excited about such dogma based principally on the whims and caprices of the reigning Pope and or his Council.
Rome believes in the fabelli (feathers), The Egyptian priest king used the Fabellum, a large fan made of feathers. This was later known as the mystic fan of Bacchus, and even as this fan was carried in procession with the supposed African Pagan priest of Egypt, so also are these fans carried with the Pope on state occasions. According to the Encyclopedia Britannica, when going to solemn ceremonies, the Pope is carried on the sedia, a portable chair of red velvet (like in the Pagans' mysteries), with a high back and escorted by two fabelli feathers. For almost a thousand years, the people of Rome believed in the mystic keys of god Janus (Horus) and goddess Cybele (Auset).
The priests in Egyptian and Babylonian rituals were known as the flamens. The word is taken from flare meaning one who blows or kindles the sacred fire. They were the keepers of the holy flame, which they fanned with the mystic fan of Bacchus. The Egyptian-Babylonish garments, like the colour of the fire, were flame red in colour. They were servants of the Pontifex Maximus in Nimrod's days just as the Cardinals today are the servants of the Pope Pontifex Maximus. The flamens were divided into three distinct groups and so the Cardinals have Cardinal Bishops, Cardinal Priests and Cardinal Deacons. The garments worn by the Cardinals of the Catholic Church are red. Cardinal Birds, Cardinal Flowers and Cardinal Priests are linked together by the colour red. The Bible mentions certain princes of Babylon who dressed in red garments, and men portrayed with vermilion bright red…… (Ezekiel 23: 14 – 15). The Priests of Baal dressed in black and so do the clergy of the Roman Catholic Church. The round cakes were used in occult of the Egyptian Mysteries and in Mithraism. The inner initiates of the System received a small round cake, or water of unleavened tread, which symbolized the solar disk.
The title Pontifex Maximus, or Supreme Pontiff or Pontifex Maximus, which the Pope bears was a title used by Nimrod, (Pona, Bridge and Facio), meaning the Bridge maker. The High Priest was called the Paper Pastrum, meaning the Father of fathers. The head of the Roman Catholic Church, borrowing directly from this title, is known as the Papa or Pope. The title Pontifer Maximus is repeatedly found on inscriptions throughout the Vatican. It is above the entrance of St Peters and above the statue of Peter, which is really the statue of Nimrod/Ausar. It is in the dome above the Holy Year Door, which is opened only during Jubilee year. The Sun God's symbols and rites, the Pallium, the idolatrous fishermen's ring, the 14-carat bishop's gold ring with large purple amethyst diamonds and hand tooled mitre-crozier appliqué, the crucifix with thirteen embedded pieces of black onyx, known as crux gemmata, the Queen of Heaven in image form, the Obelisk, are all stolen from the African Mystery System. There is an Obelisk (the Egyptian symbol of the phallus), at the entrance of St Peters in Rome.
In the Catholic Encyclopedia, Gilamesh mythologically transformed into a Babylonian Hercules, designated as Nemrod (Nimrod) in the Bible. From him descended a line of priest kings each standing at the head of the occult of the Babylonian mystery religion and continued to Belshazzar. The Jewish Encyclopedia says Nimrod made all the people rebellious against God. The multitudes were ready to follow the determination of Nimrod and they built a tower neither sparing any pains or negligent about the work, and by reason of the multitude of hands employed, the tower grew very high. The place where they built the tower was called Babylon. Semiramis, Nimrod's wife and mother, was known as the woman that made towers. The goddess Cybele (who also has been identified with Semiramis) was known as the towers in cities, with a tower-like crown on her head, as it was also with Diana. In the symbolism of the Catholic Church, a tower is emblematic of the Virgin Mary, who is also their Queen of Heaven.
Six thousand years ago, our primitive ancestors believed that the Moon and the Sun were gods; that Semiramis was hatched from an egg that fell from the Moon; that Auser's ghost pregnated Auset for the first human Virgin Birth and that Auser resurrected and ascended to heaven to seat in judgment over the dead. These rather infantile ideas now, were sustained by our confused Church fathers who declared surgical operations, devils work in 1302 CE; burnt Nicholas Copernicus at the stake in 1543 CE, for claiming that the Earth is round; burnt Giordano Bruno at the stake in 1600 CE, for claiming that humans would fly one day in machines. The Church said if God wanted humans to fly, He would have given us wings. The Church fathers put Galileo under house arrest until he died in 1642 CE, for saying that the Earth is round and that it is revolving around the sun. The Church said, the Earth does not move, it is like a cock on water carried by four mighty horses. In 1758 CE, the Church described inoculation and vaccination as Satan's jobs.
These are the narrow-minded people we are allowing to think for us in the year 2009 CE? They recruit the likes of senile in old age, retiring, former Chief Justice of England, Lord Denning; Jurist, Sir Edward Clark; Royal Professor of Law at Harvard University, Dr. Greenleaf, and former Chair of history at Oxford, Prof. Thomas Arnold, to support their senseless notion of resurrection. Does not finding a body in a grave automatically equate with resurrection? No witness has come forward yet to say they saw a body rise. Is it not possible that there was no body in the grave in the first place or that it could have been stolen as happens often these days? It could have even taken a walk because it is not easy to die nailed to a cross. Moses' body has not been found until now, but the Jews are not claiming that not finding it means it rose.
Judeo-Christianity mystified the religious world by elevating their ancestor Gods with the capital letter 'G' and down-grading other people's Gods with the small letter 'g.' All Gods, whether spelt with the capital letter 'G' or the small letter 'g' are ancestors who at one time or the other lived here on earth. Therefore, if intermediary Gods are necessary for anyone, they would not be alien ancestors. Whites and Arabs gave Africans, White ancestors to worship. The ultimate or universal source of spirituality or spiritual energy (Tu-SoS) is a higher spiritual energy source than the Judeo-Christian, Islamic God. Traditional Africans, the ancestors of mankind, instinctively know this. That is why African traditional religion is so powerful. No one in the world worships the ultimate spiritual energy source. That is because, like light, it does not ask to be worshipped. It is not a spirit; it is not transient; it is not a God. All Gods are ancestral spirits that humans create from deities of the spirit world.
Any race that forgets her ancestors is doomed to perpetual slavery and cannot make progress. We can begin right now to reclaim our essence and take back our leadership of the world from where our illustrious ancestors were pushed off inelegantly some 2000 years ago. The place to start is in our hearts and our spirit selves. We must reconcile with our ancestors. We must stop living a lie and individually vigorously, embark on efforts to recover our lost essence and grounds.
Christianity's Lie is worse cause that one has had people brainwashed for centurys and more to come.
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BLACK JESUS - IF RACE DOESN'T MATTER, WHY DOES THE LIE SURVIVE?
by Ifeanyi Ochonogor
The Universe is some 13.7 billion years old and the Earth 4.6 billion years. The stirring of civilization as we know it started from Black Egypt less than 10,000 years ago. From the Osirian reign in Egypt in 4100 BCE, Africans began to teach the rest of mankind farming, industrialization, commerce, and how to organize cities and nation states, while the African religion, the Mystery System, (which is the mother of all the religions of the world), began its uninterrupted supremacy until about 2000 years ago.
Africans from Ethiopia and Egypt colonized Mesopotamia and Elam in 4000 BCE to teach the rudiments of civilization and introduce African religion (spirituality), which with eventual emphasis on Nimrod, whose after life image is carved from that of Ausar (Osiris), went through several phases to become Zoroastrianism. The African religion also gave birth to the Islamic religion in Persia, 1000 years before the birth of Muhammad. The Dravidians from Ethiopia took Hinduism to India in 3200 BCE. In 1640 BCE, 70 Hebrews entered Egypt but some 3,154,000 African-Hebrews left Egypt in 1230 BCE, under the leadership of the African prince called Moses. Moses trained in the Mystery System as a prince for 40 years and adapted its laws for his followers. Arabs are a hybrid of Africans and Caucasians. Muhammad was born in 570 CE and he adopted the Babylonian (African) religion that was already 1000 years old from Persia during his time.
The basis of morality, justice, resurrection, virgin birth, Holy Ghost, Trinity, humanized Trinity, the notion of the last judgment, with Ausar as judge (God) of the dead, myths and philosophies of all religions, law and order in society, what constitutes good governance and democracy, all originated from the 'Great Quarrel'' and the 'Judgment of the Night of Weighing Words,' of the Mystery System.
Also in the 'Great Quarrel,' is the origin of the 'Virgin Birth,' and the Immaculate Conception myths, four thousand, four hundred and twenty-five years before the Christian version. Still clearly visible today in the Temple of Ausar (Osiris), in Abydos, are pictures of the 'Virgin Birth' and the 'Resurrection,' showing Osiris' penis perpendicular to his body as the symbol of resurrection and 'Virgin Birth.'
The Tomb of Pharaoh Rameses VI, in the Valley of the Kings, shows the forty-two Admonitions of Goddess Maat, out of which Moses copied his 'Ten Commandments,' thousands of years later. The laws on morality and human behaviour are known as the 'Admonitions of Goddess Maat,' the Goddess of Justice and law. Africans introduced the concept of the feather of truth, and the scale as the symbol of justice.
Africans gave the world the concept against murder as a result of the judgment of the 'Great Quarrel' between Auset, Heru and Set. Heru (who the Greeks called Horus), and all the other Gods, saw the murder of Ausar by his brother Set, as evil. A murder that preceded the Cain and Abel copy story by four thousand, four hundred and twenty-five years.
Africans gave the world the concepts of Heaven and Hell and all the aligned concepts copied by all the religions of the world. The African Mystery System gave the concept of good and evil, truth and lie (deceit), and the feather of truth (i.e. that truth is weightless and lie requires several layers of lies to sustain it). That righteousness is superior to might and steel. That virtue will be rewarded in Empyrean-abode of blissful spiritual life after death, and that our ancestors do not die. Ausar (Osiris) ascended into heaven. The evil and deceitful roast perpetually in Hell. Reward for the righteous is sometimes slow but always certain. No evil doer will escape punishment, which influenced the law of Karma in Buddhism. These laws were settled when Heru, the one and only Son of God Ausar by 'Virgin Birth,' took his Uncle Set to court. Heru's triumph in court established that patience, honesty, truthfulness and goodness will defeat evil and might in the court of just men.
Cheikh Anta Diop: (The African Origin of Civilization: Myth or Reality, edited and translated by Mercer Cook, Lawrence Hill Co., USA), tells us that: “A visitor to Thebes in the Valley of the Kings in Egypt can view the 'inferno' in details (in the tomb of Seti I of the nineteenth Dynasty). Osiris at the tribunal of the dead is indeed the Lord of revealed religions, sitting enthroned on Judgment Day.” Africans created God Ausar, the Lord of all religions, sitting in Judgment over the dead. He is righteous, noble, beyond fault, and his brother, God Set (Setan or Seth), evil personified, would not obey his own laws, and contesting realm of influence (human souls) with his elder brother.
Diop says, “ from a famous passage from the Book of the Dead in which the deceased renders an account of his earthly acts before the Tribunal presided over by the God Ausar (Osiris), it is readily seen that Judaism, Christianity and Islam, took their dogma of the Last Judgment from the text: I have not sinned against men… I have done nothing to displease the gods; I have indisposed no one against his superior. I have not let anyone go hungry. I have not made anyone weep. I have not killed, nor ordered anyone to kill. I have not touched the bread of the gods. I have not stolen offerings to the blessed dead. I have not reduced the measure of grain. I have not shortened by one cubit nor cheated on weights. I have not taken milk away from the mouth of the child, I have not removed cattle from the pasture, I have not dammed floodwater during its period… I have done no damage to herd, property, or temple funds. Be praised, O God! See I come to you without sin, without evil… I have done what is pleasing to the gods. I have given bread to the hungry, water to the thirsty, clothes to the naked, a boat to him who had none. I have made offerings to the gods and funeral gifts to the blessed dead. Save me, protect me. You will not accuse me before the Great God. I am a man with pure mouth and pure heart. Those who see me say, welcome. “
African Deities are Gods spelt with capital letter 'G' and are attributes of the 'One Source,' the 'Uncreated Creator,' who is Tu-SoS, or Judaism's En-Sof, and is beyond God or Gods. The Christian religion worships African humanized deities in Horus as Jesus, and Ausar/Seth as Yahweh (or Kether), one of the ten attributes of the One Source called En-Sof in Judaism. This is why the Bible claims that God created man in His image and likeness. Humans are too evil to be in the image and likeness of Tu-SoS/En-Sof. In the image of the Human God Ausar, of course, yes. The Bible describes Yahweh (God) as the Ancient of Days, having hair like pure wool. Of course, Ausar was African, and had hair like pure wool, so changing his name to Yahweh was not enough to change the ancient concept of God as Ausar. The first human cloned by Anu's race, our extraterrestrial ancestors, was Black. The human race is one and Black from the cradle.
Ausar (Osiris) the Egyptian Redeemer-God atoned for human sins by sacrificing himself. Church fathers claimed that Jesus (Christo) too had washed away the sins of his followers through his crucifixion. Ausar died nailed in a chest and resurrected to save humankind, four thousand, four hundred and twenty-five years before the story of Jesus was concocted. Jesus rose from the Sepulcher in c33 CE? Christian fathers had to claim the resurrection of Jesus because that was the only way Christianity could compete on equal, if not superior terms, with the Mystery System it was trying to suppress. Ausar rose to heaven to sit in judgment over the dead in the African myth.
Ausar's resurrection led to the 'Judgment Day' saga, and is the source of the 'Second Coming' of Jesus' story. Jesus, like Ausar, could forgive sins, bring the dead back to life, live a sinless life, heal the sick, and that he was the anointed Son of God. By juggling for Jesus, the characteristics of Horus and Virgin Birth, with those of his father, God Ausar, (the Holy Ghost), Jesus naturally emerged for the Church fathers as the special and only Son of God. These were not strange claims at the time, however. African imitation saviour-gods of the Mexicans, Mayas, Aztecs made similar claims and died to save mankind by being nailed to crosses or tied to trees, with arms outstretched as if on a cross, or slain violently in other manner, 625 years before the story of Jesus Christ was fabricated. Even to the Edo, Nigeria, their Oba was the only son of God 365 years before Christianity.
Suffering was the principal tenet of all religions. The implication was that the foundation of the world was impossible until God performed some sacrifice. Since all religions claim that there was no life, culture or anything worth preserving until they came along, tribal traditions and religious fathers were not advocating anything more outrageous than the dawn of manifestation, which is by sacrifice in Hinduism (Bhagavad Gita, iii 10). In Islam, the creator fashioned himself in due proportion and breathed into him something of his spirit (Holy Koran XXXII, 9). The Bible claims in the Book of Revelation: “the lamb was slain for the foundation of the world,” (Rev. XIII, 8).
Edicts of Theodosius and Toleration (4th and 6th Centuries) Towards the end of the fourth century CE, the African religion, the Mystery System, still dominated the world of religion so Rome passed the Edict of Theodosius, ordering the closure of all Egyptian temples. This was to allow the still struggling Christian religion to gain popular support. In the Island of Philae, in the first cataract of the Nile, the African religion refused to accept Christianity and the Roman government fearing a rebellion, paid tribute to them as an appeasement. During the sixth century CE, Justinian issued the Edit of Toleration, suppressing the remnant of the African religion in Egypt and propagating Christianity among the Nubians.
According to George G.M.James, “The abolition of the Egyptian Mysteries was to create an opportunity for the adoption of Christianity. This was the problem. The Roman government felt that Egypt was now conquered in arms and reduced to her knees, but in order to make the conquest complete, it would be necessary to abolish the Mysteries, which still controlled the religious mind of the ancient world. There must be a New World Religion to take the place of the Egyptian Religion. This New Religion, which should take the place of the Mysteries, must be equally powerful and universal, and consequently everything possible must be done in order to promote its interests.”
G.G.M James quoting from Sedgwick and Tyler (History of Science), and Zeller's (Hist. of Phil. Introduction) says; “With the abolition of the Egyptian Mystery System, intellectual darkness spread over Christian Europe and the Graeco-Roman world for ten centuries; during which time, knowledge had disappeared. The Greeks showed no creative powers, and were unable to improve upon knowledge which they had received from the Egyptians.”
With the death of the last Egyptian priest who could interpret the writing of the words of the gods (the hieroglyphics), the African religion in its original form began to sink into oblivion. Despite the cannibalization of African religions, cultures, philosophies, traditions, ideas, and our eventual loss of political leadership of the world, African ideas continue to dominate the world of religion and learning and also symbolically. Residues of African religious influence in Europe are still visible albeit in symbolic forms. The Roman she–wolf is a reminder of the southern black practice of totemism and Sabine contains the root of Sheba.
Joseph Vendryes, (French Professor of Linguistics, edit. Etudes Celtques) tells us that: “In fact, inscriptions have been found in which Isis is associated with the city of Noreia. Noreia today is Neumarkt in Styria (Austria). Isis, Osiris, Serapis, Anubis have altars in Frejus, Nimes, Arles, Riez (Basses-Alpes), Parizet (Isere), Manduel (Gard), Boulogne, (Haute-Garonne), Lyons, Besancon, Langres, and Soissons. Isis was honoured at Melun, at York, Brougham Castle, Pannonia and Noricum.” Pierre Hubac (Carthage) says: “Worship of the Black Madonna still survives in France. (Our Lady Underground, or the Black Madonna of Chartres). It remained so vivid that the Roman Catholic Church finally had to consecrate it. The very name of the French capital might be explained by the Isis cult. The term 'Parisii could well mean Temple of Isis.' For there was a city with that name on the banks of the Nile, and the hieroglyph per represents the enclosure of a temple on the Oise.”
Cheikh Anta Diop: (The African Origin of Civilization) confirms that: “The first inhabitants of the present site of Paris, who fought against Caesar, bore the name Parisii, for some reason unknown today. The worship of Isis was evidently quite widespread in France, especially in the Parisian basin; temples of Isis, in Western parlance, were everywhere. But it would be more exact to say” Houses of Isis,” for in Egyptian, these so called temples were called Per, the exact meaning of which in ancient Egyptian, as in present-day Wolof (Senegal), is: the enclosure surrounding the house. The name 'Paris' could have resulted from the juxtaposition of Per-Isis, a word that designated certain cities in Egypt. There is also the existence of the god Ani among the Irish and Etruscans. The Egypto-Phoenician impact on the Etruscans is quite clear, as it is on the Sabines, whose name and customs suggests southern Black civilization. Sabines and Etruscans buried their dead in the Italian peninsula. The Etruscans knew and utilized the Egyptian sarcophagus….. '
Godfrey Higgins in Anacalypsis, Vol. 1, tells us “we have found the Black complexion or something relating to it whenever we have approached the origins of nations. The Alma Mater, the Goddess Multimammia, the founders of the oracles, the Memnon or first idols were always Black. Venus, Jupiter, Apollo, Bacchus, Hercules, Ammon, Asteroth, Adonis, Horus, Apis, Osiris, in short all the wood and stone Deities were Black. They remain as they were first made in very remote times.” In the Celtic Druids, Higgins says: “The Greek gods were adaptations of the Egyptian ones, hence the earliest ones of Greece were also Black. 'Ethiop is a title of Zeus who was the Father of the Gods among the Greeks.”
Romain Rolland noted French writer in his (Intermediare de Chercheurs at des Curieux Vol. 34) states that “the majority of the Virgins that are revered in the celebrated pilgrimages are Black. At Boulogne-Sur-mer, the sailors still carry a Black Virgin in their procession. At Claremont in Auvergne, the Black Virgin is revered as also at Einsiendeln, Switzerland, near Zurich, to which thousands of pilgrims (Swiss, Bavarians, Alsatians), go to pay homage. The famous Virgin of Oropa in the Piedmont is still a Black woman, as well as the not less legendary one at Montserrat in Catalonia, which received 60,000 visitors a year. I have been able to trace the history of this one to the year 718 CE, and it was always Black. Tradition says that it was St. Luke who knew personally the Mother of Christ, and carved with his own hand, the majority of these Black Virgins. Virgin Mother was Black in ancient times all over the world: France, Switzerland. Italy, Spain…”
J.A. Roger (100 Amazing Facts about the Negro) says, “the earliest statues of the Virgin Mary and Christ in Europe as far as Russia, were Black. That the oldest and most noted statue in the world, the Sphinx of Gizeh, bears a Black face and was worshipped as Horus, or Harmachis, the Sun God of Light and Life. The devil, which is now depicted as Black, was before the advent of White power, portrayed as White.” In (A book of the beginnings Vol. 2, London 1881), Gerald Massey says: “The Black Jesus (Horus) is a well-known form of the child-Christ worshipped on the (European) continent where the Black bambino, the pet image of the Italian Church is as popular as Chrishna, the Black Christ of India – the Divine son was incarnated in Black flash from the Black Sut Nashi, the Black image of the earliest god (Osiris)…. And finally, the Black Jesus of the Christian cult is the son of the (Black) Virgin Mother in the Romish Church.”
Edouard Schure, a noted French writer on religion and mysticism in (Les Grand Inities, 113th edition, Paris 1931) says; “Remembrances of them have disappeared from popular tradition. The Blacks, however, have left two ineffaceable imprints in Europe: the horror of the dragon, which was the emblem of their kings… and the idea that evil or the devil is White which Whites reversed… During the time of their sovereignty, the Blacks had religious centres in Upper Egypt and in India. Their cyclopean cities embattled the mountains of Africa, the Caucasus, and Central Asia.”
St. Paul (c10-c 67 CE). He was a Jew. His Hebrew name was Saul. He was a Pharisee lawyer, tax collector, involved in the persecution of Christians. He claimed that while on one of his raids on tax dodging Christians in Damascus, he was arrested by God. He saw an apparition and was converted to Christianity on the spot. Without him, Christianity would not have taken roots. He spread the religion throughout the Roman provinces, Europe, Asia, Macedonia, and reinforced the concept in Greece and Rome. He was deeply involved in the administrative structuring and running of the early Church. Most documents on him suggest he was executed in Rome between 64 and 67 CE.
Paul's epistles constitute the second half of the New Testament and form aspects of Christian teachings. He preached that man is made up of three parts, spirit, soul and body, and that we are all “Sons of God.” Said he, “Know ye not that ye are the temple of God and that the spirit of God dwelleth in you? “ He taught that Christ was in the heart of each man, “until Christ be formed in you,” or until “the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ.” St. Paul talked about superhuman beings who before earth's formation, brought knowledge to man through a long evolutionary process, and described man's relationship with God as a descending order of intelligence as in “thrones, dominions, principalities and powers.” John's Book of Revelation also makes similar point in “Cloud of Silent Witnesses before the Throne-Seraphim, Cherubim and Thrones.” These gradations have become de-emphasized in Christianity as stages of spiritual evolution. The concept of the seven spirits before the throne of God is recognized in the scriptures and the Roman Catholic Church speaks of revered angels in aid of man and nature. Church Fathers' elevation of Jesus to a deity, or the “only son of God” concept, downgraded personal responsibility for evolutionary spiritual growth in the Christian religion.
Council of Nicaea (325 CE). Dr. Martyn Percy, the famous canon expert once wrote and I quote: “The Bible did not arrive by fax from heaven.” The Bible is a creation of man. Man, not God, writes history, and history is always from the perspective of the conqueror, not the conquered. It is the elite, the most powerful in society, that defines the society's reality, and that is exactly what Constantine did after subduing African influence in the world.
In Emperor Constantine's days, the official Roman religion was Sun worship (i.e. the African Egyptian cult of Sol Invictus or the Invincible Sun). They called it the Jovian Mystery System and Constantine was the Chief priest. In fact, Constantine, a Pagan throughout his lifetime, was hurriedly baptized on his death bed, too weak to protest. During the reign of Constantine, and over three hundred years after the alleged crucifixion of Jesus, the Christian population had grown to the extent of posing serious threat to the unity of Rome.
The Christians were constantly warring with the Pagans and threatening to tear Rome apart. Constantine, a smart opportunist, decided to side with the larger group. History books on the issue marvel at the way Constantine converted his Sun God worshippers to Christianity. He did it by creating an amalgam, a hybrid, a fusion of Pagan symbols, dates, rituals, and ideas, into the growing Pagan-Christian traditions of the time, to produce something that compromised and overwhelmed both parties. Constantine produced a sacred entity outside the scope of the human world whose power was, therefore, unchallengeable by mare mortals, and called it the Roman Catholic Church. To do this, he conveyed his 325 CE Council of Nicaea that produced the Nicaea creed. The Nicaea Council is claimed by the Church fathers to have been called principally to thwart the Arian heresy and assert the headship of Jesus over Christendom.
The problem really was whether Auset (who was the Virgin Birth Mother in the ancient African Mystery System, imbibed by the Jovian Mystery, which was being adapted by the Church fathers, should continue to take precedence over her son Horus, as in the ancient African myth). In the end, Ausar (re-named Yahweh) retained his double roles as the Holy Ghost or God, (misunderstood by Christians as the universal 'Spirit'), and as (human 'Father' in the African Mysteries 4,425 years earlier), (who became the Christian Ghost Impregnator) of Mother Auset, re-named Mary, with the Virgin Son, Horus, (renamed Jesus).
In other words, “Holy” and “Virgin Birth” were transferred to Jesus and Mary, from Horus and Auset. Jesus became born in Bethlehem and acquired higher rank than his contrived mother. He was supposed to be her first child and to have been miraculously conceived. His foster-father was given the name Joseph, and the carpentry profession, to appeal to humility. The name 'Christ' came from the Greek translation of Christos (meaning anointed), taken from the Hebrew title of Messiah. Church fathers at the Nicaea Council in 325 CE, decided that Jesus, who was supposed to have been baptized as and called Emmanuel before the Conference, was born in Bethlehem in Judea. All these were happening some 325 years after the purported death of Jesus.
Constantine called and chaired the 325 CE Nicaea Council, which had 219 Bishops in attendance. Constantine's principal objective, (as admitted by him and emphasized in conference documents), was to settle the much-debated issue of God's relationship to his Son. Many Bishops turned down Constantine's invitation to the conference. Eusebius of Caesarea was one of the people who attended the Conference although he was not a Bishop. Eusebius was a well-known chronicler and defender of Christian monotheism at the time, and he wrote about what happened. All the issues raised at the Nicaea Council were debated and voted for, including the role of Bishops, the administration of sacraments, and the divinity of Jesus.
The Bishops had several sittings at the Council to perfect their strategy in the guise of separating truth from heresy. The story of how Bishop Arius was commanded by the Bishop of Alexandria to quit his beliefs or be declared a heretic, and how his writing were ordered destroyed, is eloquent of many things that happened when the Christian religion was being formulated. Bishop Arius was beheaded for saying Christ is not God. Read the lost books of the Bible. There is nothing divine about the Bible. Humans put it together under vicious acrimonious human circumstances.
The Christo in you, as preached by Paul, was the Christian emphasis until the Nicaea Council in 325 CE. Christo was not supposed to be a historical person. The vote to make Jesus (Christo), Christ, divine, human/spirit and the 'only Son of God,' was very close. The following statement is taken verbatim from 'The Encyclopaedia Britannica.'
“Constantine himself presided and actively guided the discussions. He personally proposed the crucial formula expressing the relation of Christ to God in the creed issued by the council as of one substance with the Father … .Overawed by the emperor, the bishops, with two exceptions only, signed the creed, many of them much against their inclination…….”
This is the most important creed in Christendom. It was proposed by the emperor to the consternation of many of the bishops in attendance. But out of fear not to offend the emperor, all but two of the bishops signed the creed. Today, the Church claims that Jesus is some special breed of God, and that the Bible is some divinely inspired document. Jesus' divinity was critical because if the Pagan God Horus, was divine and the only 'Son of God,' the new amalgam could not afford to be less so as a means of unifying the two warring Roman groups and the Roman Empire. By officially endorsing Jesus as the only 'Son of God,' Constantine turned Jesus into a deity. Historians agree that Constantine not only stole the mortal leadership and possible human message from the Church, he covered his invention, (Jesus Christ), with an iron cloak of divinity, to expand and enhance his personal political power base.
Nothing in Christianity was original. The Pagan's Sun disks became the haloes of the Catholic saints, and Auset's pictogram nursing her Virgin birth son Horus, became the model for the image of Virgin Mary nursing the baby Jesus. All the elements of the Catholic rituals, the mitre, the doxology, the altar, and the communion (act of God-eating), were all taken from African Pagans' rites. The Christians, whose original holy day was the Jewish Sabbath of Saturday, adopted the Pagan's holy day, Sunday. Constantine shifted the Christians' holy day to the Pagans' veneration day, Sunday. So, when Christians go to Church on Sundays, they are actually there paying tribute to the African Sun God.
The Passover, Feast of Tabernacles, Easter where all adapted from the Egyptian Mystery System. Easter dates were inserted in Christian usage by King James in Acts 12:4, where Easter was substituted for the Passover. It only exists in the King James' Bible. King James was forced to remove the word Easter from the new King James' Bible. Christians ought to know that Easter is a hoax; it has nothing to do with the supposed crucifixion or resurrection dates of Jesus Christ. After all, our birthdays do not fall on the same day of the week every year and on different months from year to year, do they?
Jesus' death anniversary is always on a Friday, of the week, and his resurrection is always on a Sunday of the same week, while the month moves from March to April, year to year. This is because it was based on the Pagans' changing cycles of the moon's rites. Eostre, the African goddess of spring's movement towards the rising sun was celebrated on the first Sunday after the first Vernal Equinox full moon by the Egyptians who believed that the sun died in winter and was reborn in spring.
The Christian Easter fixation with the moon ties with this African goddess of spring (vernal equinox) festival, and demonstrates the African Egyptian religious influence in the continued structuring of Christianity. Chosen date by the Christians, was also the first Sunday after the full moon following the vernal equinox, which falls on the Sunday before. The Easter moon is an imaginary one and cannot fall earlier than March 22 or later than April 25. The real moon usually appears one or two days later. Not many people know that the 'May Day' they celebrate is the Pagans' coming of spring when the earth comes back alive with renewed vigour and plentiful bounty
Semiramis, imaged after life on Auset, was worshipped as the Queen of Heaven and goddess of fertility. Ancient Babylonians believed that an egg fell into the Euphrates River from the moon from which Queen Ishtar was hatched. This moon egg was called Ishtar's egg. Buns were offered to the Queen of Heaven; the goddess of Ishtar and Rabbits were associated with the goddess of fertility because of their prolific nature. In Western Europe, it is traditional to eat hot-crossed buns on Easter Sunday morning. These small sweet buns are usually decorated with solar crosses made of white icing. They were consecrated in ancient Greece to the goddess of the sunrise, which is why you have 'sunrise services' in some churches in Easter. The forty days of mourning of Tammuz, instituted by Semiramis, when no meat was allowed to be eaten, has become the Christian Lent. Lent begins on Ash Wednesday and ashes were said to be the seed of the Indian fire god, Agni, who was deemed to have the power to forgive sins.
Trinity was inserted in Christian usage by King James in I John 5:7 and exists only in the King James' Bible. It was a miss representation of the African Trinity concept of God Auser whose ghost pregnated Goddess Auset to produce the Virgin Birth son, God Horus. Christians, after replacing Auset with fictitious Mary, removed (the female) Mary, from the Trinity; replaced Horus with Jesus, and invented a Joseph, a cheated husband by-stander. The Osirian worshipped cross is called the 'Ankh,' (the Horus' cross). The priests offered bread and wine at the Osirian rituals. Christians, 4,425 years after the Osirian origins of the concepts, worship over 40 crosses and offer bread and wine at what they call the 'Lord's Supper.' The original African cross was a square with four arms of equal length to signify peace and convey the natural union between male and female. Christians elongated one arm as a torture device. In fact, the Christian name for the cross, the crucifix, came from the Latin verb cruciare meaning to torture. The word cross, originated from the Africans and then through the Chaldeans to the Church. To cover up its origin, it is claimed that as Constantine and his soldiers approached Rome and were about to face what is known as the battle of Milvian Bridge, they saw a sign of the cross in the sky.
Ausar (Osiris) was born on the first of the intercalary days says Moret: “That is, on the 361st day of the year, which corresponds to the 26th of December, when we take into account the reform of the Egyptian calendar by Rome. The birthday of Ausar was observed by the Africans as the festival of Sol invictus, the (unconquered sun), the Saturn God of agriculture, for four thousand, four hundred and twenty-five years, before Christianity. Saturnalia was marked by seven days of merry making, feasting, and the exchange of gifts. The Roman Sun God worshippers reveled in Saturnalia festivals. Pope Julius I, arbitrarily fixed December 25th as the birthday of Jesus (Christo) in c350 CE. “What could have inspired Pope Julius I, to choose that date, only one day removed from the birthday of Osiris' which Rome had celebrated for centuries until then, unless it be the Egyptian tradition perpetuated by the Roman calendar,” asks Diop? Despite Pope Julius I proclamation of December 25th as Jesus Christo's birthday, the Church only began to observe it as the day of Nativity from the 5th century CE (i.e. some five hundred years after the supposed birth and death of Jesus).
St Nicholas, Santa Nikolaus, better known as Santa Claus, the patron saint of children whose feast day is actually Dec. 6, was incorporated into the Christmas festival to liven things up and replace the Sun-god worshippers' feasting, and exchange of gifts. Ausar (Osiris) was the God of agriculture and Diop says: “The idea of a tree associated with the birth of Jesus is taken from Osiris. Osiris' symbol was a tree without branches, set up to announce the resurrection of plant life. This was an impressive agrarian rite characterizing a sedentary society. The plant, symbol of Osiris, was called Djed: standing erect, planted upright. Djan: vertical; Djed-Djed oral: very erect (intensification of Djed); Djen: a post. …..once again we see, on retracing the course of time, that more than one feature of western civilization, whose origin has been forgotten loses its enigmatic character when linked with its African source.”
The Egyptian God Ausar (Osiris) was anointed by an Egyptian priest in 4100 BCE. Jesus was allegedly baptized or initiated by John the Baptist in early CE. Egyptian “Ab” – heart, represents Osiris. A person with 'Pure, Light' heart is Osiris in the Pagan's mysteries. He is as 'Light' as 'Feather.' Every person's heart is weighed on Isis or Goddess Maat's feather scale. To balance on it, is to be Osiris pure and sinless. This is Osiris' conquering power over all as 'Lord and God.' Christianity and other religions adopted these African concepts, replacing the African God Horus with their own intermediaries, (i.e. Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha, etc).
Osirian Goddess Maat (with wings), handled the orderliness of the world. The Christian's replaced Goddess Maat with Angles with wings, as deities' messengers to humans. The Osirians' most powerful creature symbol is the sefer a.k.a griffin. The Asiatic religions' and Christianity's most powerful creature symbol over 6000 years after the Egyptian example, is also the griffin. The Deity 'Djehuti, the sayer of the logos (word), tells Virgin Isis (Auset) in about 4100 BCE, that she will give birth to a son, the righteous divine heir namely: Horus. An angel announces to Virgin Mary in about 4 BCE, “You will conceive in your womb and give birth to a son.”
African Egyptian Serpent Goddess Meretseger was the guardian of the Valley of the Kings. The Goddess of Asiatic religions holds two snakes she tamed. The Indian androgyny deity of the Krishna sect also holds two snakes and the Ankh. Not to be outdone, Christianity's Eve receives apple from the snake. Fish facing opposite directions in circular motion represented the Trinity 6000 years ago in the African Mystery System, so too in Christianity now. The Pyramid with the Eye of the African God Horus represents Horus the Supreme One in his house (Pyramid). The Christian symbol of Trinity is the pyramid (triangle) embodying the Eye. The Eye of Jehovah in Christianity represents Jesus as a child and master of nature. So too is the significance of Buddha's Eyes or Krishna's Eyes, as child and master of nature.
In the Mystery System, 6,108 years ago, Set (or Seth), the African God and king of Egypt who killed his brother, God king Ausar, to usurp his throne in Egypt, was going to kill Horus, who was Ausar's son by virgin birth. Set, with his men, searched every nook and cranny of the Lower Delta of the Nile for Horus. Her mother, goddess Auset, had hid Horus in Butto (in the belly of Africa), and Set could not find Horus. In the Christian copy story, Herod the king, 4,425 years after Set's incidence, was going to kill the little boy Jesus. Herod had his men check every family and every household, for this supposedly baby boy. Goddess Yashoda, a virgin, flees with her son, Krishna, to save him from a tyrant ruler.
The Celibacy. Ausar's resurrection without his phallus was the original reason religious leaders, nuns, and monks, were psychologically castrated or had to be celibate. After Adam and Eve were invented and Auset and Horus were replaced with Mary and Jesus, eating of the forbidden fruit and lust replaced the original reason for celibacy. Assumption of the Virgin. Pope Pius XII, in late 1950, proclaimed Mary's ascent to heaven after her imaginary death. Protestants are not excited about such dogma based principally on the whims and caprices of the reigning Pope and or his Council.
Rome believes in the fabelli (feathers), The Egyptian priest king used the Fabellum, a large fan made of feathers. This was later known as the mystic fan of Bacchus, and even as this fan was carried in procession with the supposed African Pagan priest of Egypt, so also are these fans carried with the Pope on state occasions. According to the Encyclopedia Britannica, when going to solemn ceremonies, the Pope is carried on the sedia, a portable chair of red velvet (like in the Pagans' mysteries), with a high back and escorted by two fabelli feathers. For almost a thousand years, the people of Rome believed in the mystic keys of god Janus (Horus) and goddess Cybele (Auset).
The priests in Egyptian and Babylonian rituals were known as the flamens. The word is taken from flare meaning one who blows or kindles the sacred fire. They were the keepers of the holy flame, which they fanned with the mystic fan of Bacchus. The Egyptian-Babylonish garments, like the colour of the fire, were flame red in colour. They were servants of the Pontifex Maximus in Nimrod's days just as the Cardinals today are the servants of the Pope Pontifex Maximus. The flamens were divided into three distinct groups and so the Cardinals have Cardinal Bishops, Cardinal Priests and Cardinal Deacons. The garments worn by the Cardinals of the Catholic Church are red. Cardinal Birds, Cardinal Flowers and Cardinal Priests are linked together by the colour red. The Bible mentions certain princes of Babylon who dressed in red garments, and men portrayed with vermilion bright red…… (Ezekiel 23: 14 – 15). The Priests of Baal dressed in black and so do the clergy of the Roman Catholic Church. The round cakes were used in occult of the Egyptian Mysteries and in Mithraism. The inner initiates of the System received a small round cake, or water of unleavened tread, which symbolized the solar disk.
The title Pontifex Maximus, or Supreme Pontiff or Pontifex Maximus, which the Pope bears was a title used by Nimrod, (Pona, Bridge and Facio), meaning the Bridge maker. The High Priest was called the Paper Pastrum, meaning the Father of fathers. The head of the Roman Catholic Church, borrowing directly from this title, is known as the Papa or Pope. The title Pontifer Maximus is repeatedly found on inscriptions throughout the Vatican. It is above the entrance of St Peters and above the statue of Peter, which is really the statue of Nimrod/Ausar. It is in the dome above the Holy Year Door, which is opened only during Jubilee year. The Sun God's symbols and rites, the Pallium, the idolatrous fishermen's ring, the 14-carat bishop's gold ring with large purple amethyst diamonds and hand tooled mitre-crozier appliqué, the crucifix with thirteen embedded pieces of black onyx, known as crux gemmata, the Queen of Heaven in image form, the Obelisk, are all stolen from the African Mystery System. There is an Obelisk (the Egyptian symbol of the phallus), at the entrance of St Peters in Rome.
In the Catholic Encyclopedia, Gilamesh mythologically transformed into a Babylonian Hercules, designated as Nemrod (Nimrod) in the Bible. From him descended a line of priest kings each standing at the head of the occult of the Babylonian mystery religion and continued to Belshazzar. The Jewish Encyclopedia says Nimrod made all the people rebellious against God. The multitudes were ready to follow the determination of Nimrod and they built a tower neither sparing any pains or negligent about the work, and by reason of the multitude of hands employed, the tower grew very high. The place where they built the tower was called Babylon. Semiramis, Nimrod's wife and mother, was known as the woman that made towers. The goddess Cybele (who also has been identified with Semiramis) was known as the towers in cities, with a tower-like crown on her head, as it was also with Diana. In the symbolism of the Catholic Church, a tower is emblematic of the Virgin Mary, who is also their Queen of Heaven.
Six thousand years ago, our primitive ancestors believed that the Moon and the Sun were gods; that Semiramis was hatched from an egg that fell from the Moon; that Auser's ghost pregnated Auset for the first human Virgin Birth and that Auser resurrected and ascended to heaven to seat in judgment over the dead. These rather infantile ideas now, were sustained by our confused Church fathers who declared surgical operations, devils work in 1302 CE; burnt Nicholas Copernicus at the stake in 1543 CE, for claiming that the Earth is round; burnt Giordano Bruno at the stake in 1600 CE, for claiming that humans would fly one day in machines. The Church said if God wanted humans to fly, He would have given us wings. The Church fathers put Galileo under house arrest until he died in 1642 CE, for saying that the Earth is round and that it is revolving around the sun. The Church said, the Earth does not move, it is like a cock on water carried by four mighty horses. In 1758 CE, the Church described inoculation and vaccination as Satan's jobs.
These are the narrow-minded people we are allowing to think for us in the year 2009 CE? They recruit the likes of senile in old age, retiring, former Chief Justice of England, Lord Denning; Jurist, Sir Edward Clark; Royal Professor of Law at Harvard University, Dr. Greenleaf, and former Chair of history at Oxford, Prof. Thomas Arnold, to support their senseless notion of resurrection. Does not finding a body in a grave automatically equate with resurrection? No witness has come forward yet to say they saw a body rise. Is it not possible that there was no body in the grave in the first place or that it could have been stolen as happens often these days? It could have even taken a walk because it is not easy to die nailed to a cross. Moses' body has not been found until now, but the Jews are not claiming that not finding it means it rose.
Judeo-Christianity mystified the religious world by elevating their ancestor Gods with the capital letter 'G' and down-grading other people's Gods with the small letter 'g.' All Gods, whether spelt with the capital letter 'G' or the small letter 'g' are ancestors who at one time or the other lived here on earth. Therefore, if intermediary Gods are necessary for anyone, they would not be alien ancestors. Whites and Arabs gave Africans, White ancestors to worship. The ultimate or universal source of spirituality or spiritual energy (Tu-SoS) is a higher spiritual energy source than the Judeo-Christian, Islamic God. Traditional Africans, the ancestors of mankind, instinctively know this. That is why African traditional religion is so powerful. No one in the world worships the ultimate spiritual energy source. That is because, like light, it does not ask to be worshipped. It is not a spirit; it is not transient; it is not a God. All Gods are ancestral spirits that humans create from deities of the spirit world.
Any race that forgets her ancestors is doomed to perpetual slavery and cannot make progress. We can begin right now to reclaim our essence and take back our leadership of the world from where our illustrious ancestors were pushed off inelegantly some 2000 years ago. The place to start is in our hearts and our spirit selves. We must reconcile with our ancestors. We must stop living a lie and individually vigorously, embark on efforts to recover our lost essence and grounds.
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OK. In the context of the shear number of people it's effected obviously yes, it's the socio-political institution - Christianity.
But in the shear blatancy of the lie, I'd have to say Bush's WMD lie.
OK. In the context of the shear number of people it's effected obviously yes, it's the socio-political institution - Christianity.
But in the shear blatancy of the lie, I'd have to say Bush's WMD lie.
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In the weapons of Mass Destruction argument or Lie are you includeing 9-11? Cause you cant leave that out thats an important component of that lie.
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No bullshit I would really like to know if Bush is actually related to the people who started christianity. The truth is coming to light and soon we will see that these people are not like human.
No bullshit I would really like to know if Bush is actually related to the people who started christianity. The truth is coming to light and soon we will see that these people are not like human.
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Yep. Including 9-11. Doesn't take a theoretical physicist to figure that out.
Yep. Including 9-11. Doesn't take a theoretical physicist to figure that out.
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The Jesus lie is far worse. It enslaved people and continues to do so today. It causes wars. Genocide. It stunts human growth. I can't think of a single positive effect from the Jesus lie.
The Jesus lie is far worse. It enslaved people and continues to do so today. It causes wars. Genocide. It stunts human growth. I can't think of a single positive effect from the Jesus lie.
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Really? Not even one positive effect? Christianity played no role is the development of science? Of course there was also Greek, African and Eastern philosophy, astronomy and mathematics, but by and large Europe and all of the so-called "fathers of science" were largely influenced by a Judeo-Christian world view.
Really? Not even one positive effect? Christianity played no role is the development of science? Of course there was also Greek, African and Eastern philosophy, astronomy and mathematics, but by and large Europe and all of the so-called "fathers of science" were largely influenced by a Judeo-Christian world view.
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Nope.. not a single positive effect.
Nope.. not a single positive effect.
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I would have to say Christianity's lie....because it has been retold over and over again with each story used to hold back a mindset....the Bush Story....has only tricked a few....it's just unfortunate that the lie has grown and taken on a mind of it's on...
I would have to say Christianity's lie....because it has been retold over and over again with each story used to hold back a mindset....the Bush Story....has only tricked a few....it's just unfortunate that the lie has grown and taken on a mind of it's on...
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I would put the muslim lie over all of this...
Compared to all religions, Christianity is the best because it allows a sense of freedom that other religions do not possess. You know... Free will....?
Oh wait, I guess that's a lie too?
I would put the muslim lie over all of this...
Compared to all religions, Christianity is the best because it allows a sense of freedom that other religions do not possess. You know... Free will....?
Oh wait, I guess that's a lie too?
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Co sign.
Co sign.
The four major religions, Christianity, Islam, Judaism and Hinduism should all be thrown in the Garbage. Christianity is no different. Religion is Manmade concepts, principles etc. Religion has nothing to do with spirituality and the Creator. I dont know how christianity gives one a since of freedom when they tell you if you dont believe jesus is god you wont go to heaven but then they tell you if you accept that false concept he will never leave you or forsake you. Then you wont get your blessing if you dont pay your 10% (tithes). But I guess you have freedom cause EVERYTIME you commit a sin you can ask for forgiveness. No matter how severe the sin is. Yea right. I think your confuseing the discipline that Islam has, (I will give it that It does have more discipline). With the laxed nature of the church.I would put the muslim lie over all of this...
Compared to all religions, Christianity is the best because it allows a sense of freedom that other religions do not possess. You know... Free will....?
Oh wait, I guess that's a lie too?
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You do know that really happened right?
The next greatest lie after these two is the lie that they put a man on the moon.
You do know that really happened right?
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Do you really?
Do you really?
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Was there a video? Then it must be a lie.
I would put the muslim lie over all of this...
Compared to all religions, Christianity is the best because it allows a sense of freedom that other religions do not possess. You know... Free will....?
Oh wait, I guess that's a lie too?
Was there a video? Then it must be a lie.
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Since it has never been disproven, yes. The "Moon landing hoax" is one of the stupidest things that seemingly smart people believe in.
Nevermind. I do not want to drag a very provocative thread and debate into more of the idiocy I can get on the main board.
Since it has never been disproven, yes. The "Moon landing hoax" is one of the stupidest things that seemingly smart people believe in.
Nevermind. I do not want to drag a very provocative thread and debate into more of the idiocy I can get on the main board.
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You dont still believe that they Really went to the moon do you? They really cant go there its too much radiation when you get 1000 miles outside of the earths atmosphere. All they did was orbit the earth the rest was staged. Everytime the space shuttle takes off they only orbit the earth right outside of the earths atomsphere thats where the space station is also. Its not way out in space like some believe.
The US used that hoax to beat the soviets in the space race cause the Soviets were actually ahead, they flew a unmaned craft and a monkey to the moon 1st China was competeing with them in the space race also. Why is it that they never sent a man to the moon in the following years after the US supposeably did . Thats another Lie that they have told thats been passed down thru generations. They are now saying that they will put a man on the moon by 2025. Now if you went over 30yrs ago with 20 times less technology and Rocket propulsion whats stopping them now. Neil Armstrong hasn't done a single interview pertaining to the moon landing and hes a Manic Depressant. Maybe thats because hes had to live with the guilt of the lie all these years.
This is the documentary NASA doesnt want you to see.
You dont still believe that they Really went to the moon do you? They really cant go there its too much radiation when you get 1000 miles outside of the earths atmosphere. All they did was orbit the earth the rest was staged. Everytime the space shuttle takes off they only orbit the earth right outside of the earths atomsphere thats where the space station is also. Its not way out in space like some believe.
The US used that hoax to beat the soviets in the space race cause the Soviets were actually ahead, they flew a unmaned craft and a monkey to the moon 1st China was competeing with them in the space race also. Why is it that they never sent a man to the moon in the following years after the US supposeably did . Thats another Lie that they have told thats been passed down thru generations. They are now saying that they will put a man on the moon by 2025. Now if you went over 30yrs ago with 20 times less technology and Rocket propulsion whats stopping them now. Neil Armstrong hasn't done a single interview pertaining to the moon landing and hes a Manic Depressant. Maybe thats because hes had to live with the guilt of the lie all these years.
This is the documentary NASA doesnt want you to see.
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Where and what would we be without religion. Probably living in trees or caves and eating raw meat. Religion really is the mother of civilization, science and technology. We would be lost without it.
Where and what would we be without religion. Probably living in trees or caves and eating raw meat. Religion really is the mother of civilization, science and technology. We would be lost without it.
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Are you serious? Your kidding right. You need to go read some books on Nile Valley Civilization. The BlackMan and Woman are the mothers and fathers of civilization.WE were building empires while the European was living in trees and caves and eating raw meet You got it twisted unless your of european desent. Religion is what was used to ENSLAVE the world. You can't be serious where have you been.
Are you serious? Your kidding right. You need to go read some books on Nile Valley Civilization. The BlackMan and Woman are the mothers and fathers of civilization.WE were building empires while the European was living in trees and caves and eating raw meet You got it twisted unless your of european desent. Religion is what was used to ENSLAVE the world. You can't be serious where have you been.
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So your reality is based off the fact that no one disproved it so it must be true? I don't know if they did or not, so I can't say for certain they did. What I do know is that technology has increased dramatically since... rocket boosters are faster and more efficient today..yet they can't seem to get back there.
So your reality is based off the fact that no one disproved it so it must be true? I don't know if they did or not, so I can't say for certain they did. What I do know is that technology has increased dramatically since... rocket boosters are faster and more efficient today..yet they can't seem to get back there.
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You have no idea what you're talking about.
First, if NASA or whoever really didn't want us to see this "documentary", we wouldn't see it. It's amazing how people find the government so masterfully machiavellian and incompetent at the same time.
Second, most of this garbage has been shot down numerous times by reputable sources but the landing hoax people like to think they're smart and "aware" so they refuse to absorb information that exposes them as the marks they truly are.
Of the real conspiracies in the world, I'm always amazed that people get hooked on the fake ones.
Divine (and this is my last post on this stupid topic)
If someone says "I did this" and produces things to back that up and someone else, completely unrelated and unqualified, says they didn't, I'm going to ask for their proof and if they have none, I don't give them any credibility. That's how true skeptics and intelligent adults approach adult topics. Just sitting around saying "I don't know" is for children. If some new information really proving the moon landing was a hoax came out,then I would change my opinion.
That "I can't say for certain" crap is the same shit birthers throw out there when they talk about Obama's birth certificate.
No one says they can't get back to the moon. NASA went several times.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
First, if NASA or whoever really didn't want us to see this "documentary", we wouldn't see it. It's amazing how people find the government so masterfully machiavellian and incompetent at the same time.
Second, most of this garbage has been shot down numerous times by reputable sources but the landing hoax people like to think they're smart and "aware" so they refuse to absorb information that exposes them as the marks they truly are.
Of the real conspiracies in the world, I'm always amazed that people get hooked on the fake ones.
Divine (and this is my last post on this stupid topic)
If someone says "I did this" and produces things to back that up and someone else, completely unrelated and unqualified, says they didn't, I'm going to ask for their proof and if they have none, I don't give them any credibility. That's how true skeptics and intelligent adults approach adult topics. Just sitting around saying "I don't know" is for children. If some new information really proving the moon landing was a hoax came out,then I would change my opinion.
That "I can't say for certain" crap is the same shit birthers throw out there when they talk about Obama's birth certificate.
No one says they can't get back to the moon. NASA went several times.
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Interesting thread, but (not that anyone has to give a shit) I find it difficult to respond to because it started out with premises just assumed to be true: Christianity's lie about Jesus and Bush's lie about WMD's. Both may be true (frankly, I don't know), but both were just presumed to be true, ab initio, with the question then being which was worse.
The premises in this thread are for me much like the one in the "Why is the US continuing to destabilize Haiti" thread. It started out with the premise being presumed: that there was in fact destabilization. The U.S. may have been doing it then and it may be doing so now. If a statement is made, I'm just one of those who would like to know what one relies upon for the conclusion -- not because I disagree with the conclusion, but I just like knowing how we got here. Hell, I'm often intrigued by what I might be about to learn.
Of course, no one is compelled to establish the premise (we're all free to just state opinions), I just find it helpful so that we know what it is we're discussing/debating. And, for those that might disagree with my approach, my apologies; that way of seeing things tends to come from my business, by training and practice.
QueEx
Interesting thread, but (not that anyone has to give a shit) I find it difficult to respond to because it started out with premises just assumed to be true: Christianity's lie about Jesus and Bush's lie about WMD's. Both may be true (frankly, I don't know), but both were just presumed to be true, ab initio, with the question then being which was worse.
The premises in this thread are for me much like the one in the "Why is the US continuing to destabilize Haiti" thread. It started out with the premise being presumed: that there was in fact destabilization. The U.S. may have been doing it then and it may be doing so now. If a statement is made, I'm just one of those who would like to know what one relies upon for the conclusion -- not because I disagree with the conclusion, but I just like knowing how we got here. Hell, I'm often intrigued by what I might be about to learn.
Of course, no one is compelled to establish the premise (we're all free to just state opinions), I just find it helpful so that we know what it is we're discussing/debating. And, for those that might disagree with my approach, my apologies; that way of seeing things tends to come from my business, by training and practice.
QueEx
Re: Which LIE is worse: Christianity's lie about Jesus or Bush's lie about WMD's?[
Christianity is not a lie, Jesus is the Son of God and He rose from the grave. It's how the story is interpreted. Reincarnation is not just a Christian belief and scientist today believe we are all part of a whole or God they just spent 70 billion on a semiconductor to find the God particle. We know energy cannot be destroyed so what we call life has to go somewhere when the bodies dies. What religion did was put thinking into context without it there might not be analytical or abstract thinking. It civilized human beings we went from hunter gatherers to living in cities because of it. Religion has evolved from deities to monotheism, from alchemy to scientific thinking it's just one story that changes to suit the time and audience. It had to start with the best intentions but like all movements it was hijacked by special interest. Thats why there's a religion for the masses like Christianity and one from the elites like say Jewish mysticism. They are all based on truth but because thought can be shaped whats true for one class is not true for another.
Christianity is not a lie, Jesus is the Son of God and He rose from the grave. It's how the story is interpreted. Reincarnation is not just a Christian belief and scientist today believe we are all part of a whole or God they just spent 70 billion on a semiconductor to find the God particle. We know energy cannot be destroyed so what we call life has to go somewhere when the bodies dies. What religion did was put thinking into context without it there might not be analytical or abstract thinking. It civilized human beings we went from hunter gatherers to living in cities because of it. Religion has evolved from deities to monotheism, from alchemy to scientific thinking it's just one story that changes to suit the time and audience. It had to start with the best intentions but like all movements it was hijacked by special interest. Thats why there's a religion for the masses like Christianity and one from the elites like say Jewish mysticism. They are all based on truth but because thought can be shaped whats true for one class is not true for another.
Re: Which LIE is worse: Christianity's lie about Jesus or Bush's lie about WMD's?[
Although the title of this thread presumes a lie, I doubt that after everyone on either side and in the middle of this issue would have had his/her best say that we would have arrived at a concensus.
QueEx
You know, I'm not certain that this one can be proven or dis-proven using the scientific or any other method. Its one of those things that you have to take on faith. We have Believers, non-believing Athiest, and unsure Agnostics.
Although the title of this thread presumes a lie, I doubt that after everyone on either side and in the middle of this issue would have had his/her best say that we would have arrived at a concensus.
QueEx
Re: Which LIE is worse: Christianity's lie about Jesus or Bush's lie about WMD's?[
Christianity's lie is the worst by far
The Christian wars :
The racial consequences of the Christian Wars, and in particular the Thirty Years' War, were vast. The German population was reduced by at least one third, and probably more: when combined with the effects of the Great Plague of the 1300s, the German population actually shrunk by over 50 per cent in the course of 300 years: a massive decline which, if avoided, would certainly have changed the course of world history.
When the history of the Christian Wars is read in conjunction with the 20th century conflict in Ireland; the torture and lunacy of parts of the Inquisition; the suppression of learning and science caused by the Christian Dark Ages; and the division the White populations into opposing Christian camps in even supposedly secular countries such as North America; then no other conclusion is possible except to say that the introduction of Christianity has to count as the single greatest ideological catastrophe to ever strike Europe.
http://www.white-history.com/hwr43.htm
Christianity's lie is the worst by far
The Christian wars :
The racial consequences of the Christian Wars, and in particular the Thirty Years' War, were vast. The German population was reduced by at least one third, and probably more: when combined with the effects of the Great Plague of the 1300s, the German population actually shrunk by over 50 per cent in the course of 300 years: a massive decline which, if avoided, would certainly have changed the course of world history.
When the history of the Christian Wars is read in conjunction with the 20th century conflict in Ireland; the torture and lunacy of parts of the Inquisition; the suppression of learning and science caused by the Christian Dark Ages; and the division the White populations into opposing Christian camps in even supposedly secular countries such as North America; then no other conclusion is possible except to say that the introduction of Christianity has to count as the single greatest ideological catastrophe to ever strike Europe.
http://www.white-history.com/hwr43.htm
Re: Which LIE is worse: Christianity's lie about Jesus or Bush's lie about WMD's?[
w/o question the lie of Jesus is way worse.
w/BushII you're talking about maybe a generation or 2 of damage. w/the whole Jesus lie you're talking about centuries of damage...
WTF!
that's too easy...
w/o question the lie of Jesus is way worse.
w/BushII you're talking about maybe a generation or 2 of damage. w/the whole Jesus lie you're talking about centuries of damage...
WTF!
that's too easy...
Re: Which LIE is worse: Christianity's lie about Jesus or Bush's lie about WMD's?[
WTF?!
Wow I feel so sad for you. You're straight brainwashed. :
COSIGN
WTF?! Wow I feel so sad for you. You're straight brainwashed. COSIGN
Re: Which LIE is worse: Christianity's lie about Jesus or Bush's lie about WMD's?[
Don't feel sorry for him; show him how he is wrong.
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Don't feel sorry for him; show him how he is wrong.
QueEx
