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Originally Published:Friday, April 23rd 2010, 3:22 PM
Updated: Friday, April 23rd 2010, 5:09 PM


PHOENIX - Gov. Jan Brewer ignored criticism from President Obama on Friday and signed into law a bill supporters said would take handcuffs off police in dealing with illegal immigration in Arizona, the nation's busiest gateway for human and drug smuggling from Mexico.

With hundreds of protesters outside the state Capitol shouting that the bill would lead to civil rights abuses, Brewer said critics were "overreacting" and that she wouldn't tolerate racial profiling.

"We in Arizona have been more than patient waiting for Washington to act," Brewer said after signing the law. "But decades of inaction and misguided policy have created a dangerous and unacceptable situation."

Earlier Friday, Obama called the Arizona bill "misguided" and instructed the Justice Department to examine it to see if it's legal. He also said the federal government must enact immigration reform at the national level - or leave the door open to "irresponsibility by others."

"That includes, for example, the recent efforts in Arizona, which threaten to undermine basic notions of fairness that we cherish as Americans, as well as the trust between police and their communities that is so crucial to keeping us safe," Obama said.

The legislation, sent to the Republican governor by the GOP-led Legislature, makes it a crime under state law to be in the country illegally. It also requires local police officers to question people about their immigration status if there is reason to suspect they are illegal immigrants; allows lawsuits against government agencies that hinder enforcement of immigration laws; and makes it illegal to hire illegal immigrants for day labor or knowingly transport them.

The law sends "a clear message that Arizona is unfriendly to undocumented aliens," said Peter Spiro, a Temple University law professor and author of the book "Beyond Citizenship: American Identity After Globalization."

Brewer signed the bill in a state auditorium about a mile from the Capitol complex where some 2,000 demonstrators booed when county Supervisor Mary Rose Wilcox announced that "the governor did not listen to our prayers."

"It's going to change our lives," said Emilio Almodovar, a 13-year-old American citizen from Phoenix. "We can't walk to school any more. We can't be in the streets anymore without the pigs thinking we're illegal immigrants."

Protesters gathered in Miami Friday evening at the Freedom Tower, where thousands of Cuban refugees were processed after fleeing the communist revolution.

"A thousand people a day are being deported. A thousand families being destroyed. And this comes at a very high moral and financial cost to this nation," said Maria Rodriguez, executive director of the Florida Immigration Coalition.



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The Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund said it plans a legal challenge to the law, arguing it "launches Arizona into a spiral of pervasive fear, community distrust, increased crime and costly litigation, with nationwide repercussions."

William Sanchez, president of the National Coalition of Latino Clergy and Christian Leaders Legal Defense Fund, said his group is preparing a federal lawsuit against Arizona to stop the law from being applied. The group represents 30,000 Evangelical churches nationwide, including 300 Latino pastors in Arizona.

"Millions of Latinos around the country are shocked," Sanchez said.

Mexican Foreign Secretary Patricia Espinosa said Friday that the passage of the law will affect relations between Mexico and Arizona and "it will force Mexico to consider whether the cooperation agreements that have been developed with Arizona are viable and useful."

Espinosa said Mexico regrets that Arizona did not take into account the "valuable contributions that migrants make to the economy, society and culture of Arizona and the United States of America."

She said the movement of illegal merchandise along the Mexico-U.S. border is far from being connected to illegal immigration.

Guatemalan Vice President Rafael Estrada said the law "is a step back for those migrants who have fought" for their rights. Guatemala's Foreign Relations Department decried the measure in a statement saying "it threatens basic notions of justice."

The law will take effect in late July or early August, and Brewer ordered the state's law enforcement licensing agency to develop a training course on how to implement it without violating civil rights.

"We must enforce the law evenly, and without regard to skin color, accent, or social status," she said. "We must prove the alarmists and the cynics wrong."

Brewer, who faces a tough election battle and growing anger in the state over illegal immigrants, said the law "protects every Arizona citizen."

Anti-immigrant anger has swelled in the past month, after rancher Rob Krentz was found dead on his land north of Douglas, near the Mexico border. Authorities believe he was fatally shot by an illegal immigrant possibly connected to a drug smuggling cartel.

Arizona has an estimated 460,000 illegal immigrants, and its harsh, remote desert serves as the corridor for the majority of illegal immigrants and drugs moving north into the U.S. from Mexico.

U.S. Rep. Raul Grijalva, a Democrat, said he closed his Arizona offices at noon Friday after his staff in Yuma and Tucson were flooded with calls, some from people threatening violent acts and shouting racial slurs. He called on businesses and groups looking for convention and meeting locations to boycott Arizona.

The bill's Republican sponsor, state Rep. Russell Pearce of Mesa, said Obama and other critics of the bill were "against law enforcement, our citizens and the rule of law."

Pearce said the legislation would remove "political handcuffs" from police and help drive illegal immigrants from the state.

"Illegal is illegal," said Pearce, a driving force on the issue in Arizona. "We'll have less crime. We'll have lower taxes. We'll have safer neighborhoods. We'll have shorter lines in the emergency rooms. We'll have smaller classrooms."



Small riot breaks out at SB1070 protest

Shot in Phoenix, AZ minutes after Governor Jan Brewer signed SB1070 into law.

Here is the AZ Senate fact sheet on SB1070 it not all bad as you can see.

ARIZONA STATE SENATE

Forty-ninth Legislature, Second Regular Session



FACT SHEET FOR S.B. 1070



immigration; law enforcement; safe neighborhoods



Purpose



Requires officials and agencies of the state More.. and political subdivisions to fully comply with and assist in the enforcement of federal immigration laws and gives county attorneys subpoena power in certain investigations of employers. Establishes crimes involving trespassing by illegal aliens, stopping to hire or soliciting work under specified circumstances, and transporting, harboring or concealing unlawful aliens, and their respective penalties.



Background



Federal law provides that any alien who 1) enters or attempts to enter the U.S. at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, 2) eludes examination by immigration officers, or 3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the U.S. by a willfully false or misleading representation is guilty of improper entry by an alien. For the first commission of the offense, the person is fined, imprisoned up to six months, or both, and for a subsequent offense, is fined, imprisoned up to 2 years, or both (8 U.S.C. § 1325).



The U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) is the primary authority for enforcing immigration laws. ICE was created in March 2003 as an investigative branch of the Department of Homeland Security. ICE was the result of combining the Immigration and Naturalization Service and the U.S. Customs Service.



Current statute defines criminal trespass in the first degree as a person knowingly entering or remaining unlawfully in areas related to residential structures, residential yards, real property subject to a valid mineral claim or lease under certain circumstances, property if the person defaces religious symbols or religious property, or critical public service facilities. Depending on the circumstances, criminal trespass in the first degree provides penalties ranging from a class 1 misdemeanor to a class 6 felony (A.R.S. § 13-1504).



In 2007, Arizona enacted the Legal Arizona Workers Act (LAWA), prohibiting an employer from knowingly or intentionally employing an unauthorized alien and establishing penalties for employers in violation. The U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services office administers the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE) Program. The SAVE Program, together with the Social Security Administration (SSA), administers E-Verify, which allows employers to electronically confirm the employment eligibility of all newly hired employees. LAWA requires all Arizona employers to use E-Verify to verify the employment eligibility of new hires. Proof of verifying the employment authorization of an employee through E-Verify creates a rebuttable presumption that an employer did not intentionally or knowingly employ an unauthorized alien.

The fiscal impact is unknown; however, there may be additional costs associated with criminal prosecution and detention of persons who are accused and convicted of the crimes established in this legislation. Additionally, the addition of new fines associated with this measure may also have an impact.



Provisions



Enforcement



1. Requires a reasonable attempt to be made to determine the immigration status of a person during any legitimate contact made by an official or agency of the state or a county, city, town or political subdivision (political subdivision) if reasonable suspicion exists that the person is an alien who is unlawfully present in the U.S.



2. Requires the person’s immigration status to be verified with the federal government pursuant to federal law.



3. Requires an alien unlawfully present in the U.S. who is convicted of a violation of state or local law to be transferred immediately to the custody of ICE or Customs and Border Protection, on discharge from imprisonment or assessment of any fine that is imposed.



4. Allows a law enforcement agency to securely transport an alien who is unlawfully present in the U.S. and who is in the agency’s custody to:

a) a federal facility in this state or

b) any other point of transfer into federal custody that is outside the jurisdiction of the law enforcement agency.



5. Allows a law enforcement officer, without a warrant, to arrest a person if the officer has probable cause to believe that the person has committed any public offense that makes the person removable from the U.S.



6. Prohibits officials or agencies of the state and political subdivisions from being prevented or restricted from sending, receiving or maintaining an individual’s immigration status information or exchanging that information with any other governmental entity for the following official purposes:

a) determining eligibility for any public benefit, service or license provided by any federal, state, local or other political subdivision of this state;

b) verifying any claim of residence or domicile if that verification is required under state law or a judicial order issued pursuant to a civil or criminal proceeding in the state;

c) confirming a detainee’s identity; and

d) if the person is an alien, determining whether the person is in compliance with federal alien registration laws.



7. Disallows officials or agencies of the state or political subdivisions from adopting or implementing policies that limit immigration enforcement to less than the full extent permitted by federal law, and allows a person to bring an action in superior court to challenge an official or agency that does so.



8. Requires the court, if there is a judicial finding that an entity has committed a violation, to order any of the following:

a) that the plaintiff recover court costs and attorney fees;

b) that the defendant pay a civil penalty of not less than $1,000 and not more than $5,000 for each day that the policy has remained in effect after the filing of the action.



9. Requires the court to collect and remit the civil penalty to the Department of Public Safety (DPS), which must establish a special subaccount for the monies in the account established for the Gang and Immigration Intelligence Team Enforcement Mission (GIITEM) appropriation.



10. Specifies that law enforcement officers are indemnified by their agencies against reasonable costs and expenses, including attorney fees, incurred by the officer in connection with any action, suit or proceeding brought pursuant to this statute to which the officer may be a party by reason of the officer being or having been a member of the law enforcement agency, except in relation to matters in which the officer is adjudged to have acted in bad faith.



Trespassing by Illegal Aliens



11. Specifies that, in addition to any violation of federal law, a person is guilty of trespassing if the person is:

a) present on any public or private land in the state and

b) is not carrying his or her alien registration card or has willfully failed to register.



12. Requires, in the enforcement of this statute, the final determination of an alien’s immigration status to be determined by:

a) a law enforcement officer who is authorized to verify or ascertain an alien’s immigration status or

b) a law enforcement officer or agency communicating with ICE or the U.S. Border Protection.



13. Stipulates that a person is not eligible for suspension or commutation of sentence or release on any basis until the sentence imposed is served.



14. Directs the person to pay jail costs and an additional assessment of at least $500 for the first violation or at least $1,000 for subsequent offenses.



15. Requires the court to collect and remit the assessments to DPS for the special GIITEM subaccount.



16. Specifies that the trespassing statute does not apply to a person who maintains authorization from the federal government to remain in the U.S.



17. Classifies the violation as follows:

a) a class 2 felony if the person commits the violation while in possession of a dangerous drug, precursor chemicals used in the manufacturing of methamphetamine, a deadly weapon or dangerous instrument or property that is used for committing an act of terrorism;

b) a class 4 felony for a second or subsequent offense or if the person, within 60 months before the violation, accepted a voluntary removal from the U.S. or has been deported;

c) a class 1 misdemeanor in all other cases.



Unlawful Stopping and Solicitation of Work



18. Specifies that it is unlawful, if a motor vehicle is stopped on a street, roadway or highway and blocks or impedes the normal movement of traffic:

a) for a motor vehicle occupant to attempt to hire or hire and pick up passengers for work at a different location;

b) for a person to enter the motor vehicle in order to be hired by a motor vehicle occupant and to be transported to work at a different location.



19. Stipulates that it is unlawful for a person who is unlawfully present in the U.S. and who is an unauthorized alien to knowingly apply for work, solicit work in a public place or perform work as an employee or independent contractor in Arizona.



20. Classifies these offenses as class 1 misdemeanors.



21. Defines solicit and unauthorized alien.



Unlawful Transporting



22. Specifies that it is unlawful for a person to do or attempt to do the following if the person knows or recklessly disregards the fact that the alien has come to, has entered or remains in the U.S. in violation of law:

a) transport or move an alien in Arizona in a means of transportation;

b) conceal, harbor or shield an alien from detection in any place in Arizona, including any building or means of transportation.



23. Stipulates it is unlawful to encourage or induce an alien to come to or reside in Arizona if the person knows or recklessly disregards the fact that such coming to, entering or residing in this state is or will be in violation of law.



24. Subjects a means of transportation used in the commission of a violation to mandatory vehicle immobilization or impoundment.



25. Classifies these offenses as class 1 misdemeanors and subjects offenders to fines of at least $1,000, except that a violation that involves 10 or more illegal aliens is a class 6 felony with a fine of at least $1,000 for each alien who is involved.



Investigations of Employers



26. Allows the county attorney, in investigations of employers who are alleged to have knowingly or intentionally hired unauthorized aliens, to take evidence, administer oaths or affirmations, issue subpoenas requiring attendance and testimony of witnesses and cause depositions to be taken.



27. Exempts proceedings held during the course of a confidential investigation from open meeting laws.



28. Stipulates that an employer is not entrapped in an investigation if the employer was predisposed to knowingly or intentionally employ an unauthorized alien and law enforcement officers or their agents merely provided the employer with an opportunity to do so.



29. States that it is not entrapment for law enforcement officers or their agents merely to use a ruse or to conceal their identities.



30. Directs employers to keep verification records of their employees’ work eligibility through E-Verify.



31. Establishes a class 3 felony for failing to:

a) verify employment eligibility through E-Verify or

b) keep records of verifications.



Miscellaneous



32. Specifies that monies in the special GIITEM subaccount are subject to legislative appropriation for distribution for gang and immigration enforcement and for county jail reimbursement costs relating to immigration.



33. Stipulates that the terms of the act regarding immigration have the meanings given to them under federal immigration law.



34. Requires the act to be implemented in a manner consistent with federal laws regulating immigration, protecting the civil rights of all persons and respecting the privileges and immunities of U.S. citizens.



35. Contains intent and severability clauses.



36. Titles the legislation the “Support Our Law Enforcement and Safe Neighborhoods Act.”



37. Makes conforming changes.



38. Becomes effective on the general effective date.



Prepared by Senate Research

January 15, 2010

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Re: Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer signs US's toughest immigration law; Obama slams as civil

Whites haven't learned s**t in Arizona!

Whites are dumb as s**t in Arizona. Why would anyone want to live there anyway?

Everytime whites go through all that trouble to spit on non-whites, they just end up making things harder on themselves.

But, those whites are so full of hate, they don't care. And, yet again, they will learn the hard way, "white doesn't make right."
 
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This will be a good thing.
 
Re: Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer signs US's toughest immigration law; Obama slams as civil

I can agree with the governor's idea of cracking down on the criminal element caused by Mexican drug gangs. Problem is it blames latino people for the problem when the truth is their countries are impovished because of American policies. Obama is right, you can't blame the victim.
 
Re: Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer signs US's toughest immigration law; Obama slams as civil

I agree with the governor's idea of cracking down on the criminal element caused by Mexican drug gangs. Problem is it blames latino people for the problem when the truth is their countries are impovished because of American policies. Obama is right, you can't blame the victim.
 
Re: Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer signs US's toughest immigration law; Obama slams as civil

I agree with the governor's idea of cracking down on the criminal element caused by Mexican drug gangs. Problem is it blames latino people for the problem when the truth is their countries are impovished because of American policies. Obama is right, you can't blame the victim.
 
Re: Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer signs US's toughest immigration law; Obama slams as civil

I can agree with the governor's idea of cracking down on the criminal element caused by Mexican drug gangs. Problem is it blames latino people for the problem when the truth is their countries are impovished because of American policies. Obama is right, you can't blame the victim.

how are there countries impoverished by american policies???
 
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how are there countries impoverished by american policies???

The unequal distribution of wealth remains the underlying cause of poverty throughout Latin America, although the region's countries have made widely varying degrees of progress towards meeting the United Nations Millennium Development Goals (MDGs).

Chile has already reached the first MDG, which is to reduce by half the proportion of people living in extreme poverty, using 1990 figures as a baseline measure. The poverty rate in Chile has dropped from 38.5 percent of the population in 1990 to 18.8 percent this year, President Ricardo Lagos announced in a state of the nation address in May. The proportion of Chileans living in extreme poverty fell from 12.9 percent to 4.7 percent over the same period.

But Argentina, for its part, will be hard pressed to meet this target by the established deadline of 2015. While its social development indicators were among the highest in Latin America in 1990, it has suffered dramatic setbacks in the past few years as a result of the late 2001 economic and financial meltdown. In countries like Brazil, which has the most unequal distribution of wealth in the world, the transference of only five percent of the income of the wealthiest 20 percent of the population to the poorest 20 percent would reduce the poverty rate from 22 percent to seven percent, according to the 2005 Human Development Report released last Wednesday by the United Nations Development Programme.

In real terms, this would mean lifting 26 million people from below the poverty line. The MDGs, adopted by the 191 U.N. member nations in 2000, establish the commitment to reduce extreme poverty and hunger, achieve universal primary education, promote gender equality and empower women, reduce child mortality, improve maternal health, combat HIV/AIDS, malaria and other diseases, ensure environmental sustainability, and develop a global partnership for development. The achievement of these goals is based on the fulfilment of 18 specific targets set for the year 2015 and measured through 48 indicators. Progress towards the targets is based on the levels recorded in 1990.

Most South American nations have begun to place greater emphasis on social policies in general over the past decade. For the most part, however, this has not been a result of the adoption of the MDGs, but rather a response to the exacerbation of poverty in the region and greater awareness of the problem, as reflected by the election of progressive governments in a number of South American countries.

In Argentina, for example, the rates of poverty and extreme poverty rose from 22.6 percent and 4.5 percent in 1992 to 54 percent and 27.7 percent in 2002, at the height of the economic crisis, according to figures from the National Statistics and Census Institute. This situation led the government of President Néstor Kirchner, who took office in 2003, to adopt a number of social programmes that include the distribution of food aid and the provision of a monthly subsidy of 150 pesos (52 dollars) to unemployed heads of households. Modest economic recovery has now reduced the number of people relying on these programmes from 2.2 million to 1.5 million.

In the meantime, various other initiatives have been introduced, like the development programme, which has provided credits and tools to 425,000 micro and small businesses, and the family programme, through which 250,000 mothers are provided with a stipend for ensuring that their children remain in school. These income supplement programmes are "a badly needed band-aid, but not the solution," which lies in "opening up genuine sources of employment," community activist Marcelo Cresta told IPS. Cresta is the coordinator of a project that provides free meals for children at the Our Lady of Luján de Quilmes Church in the province of Buenos Aires.


There's only so much money in circulation if Bill Gates has 50 billion then most of Latin America as well as north America will struggle. Wealth is not equally divided.
 
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The law is D.O.A. - Dead On Arrival in any federal court. Even a RepubliKlan <s>FOX</s> FAKE News judge knows this.(see video below) The ugly cac Governor and the posse standing behind her at the signing ceremony press conference reminds me of a white supremacist afrikaners rally in South Africa. The afrikaners are still rallying for white supremacy in 2010, 20 years after Nelson Mandela's release and Black majority rule. These cacs in Arizona are a dying breed. Their kids have embraced multiculturalism and they are stuck in the old race based paradigm.


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.... Their kids have embraced multiculturalism and they are stuck in the old race based paradigm.....


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Whose Country Is It?

The country is becoming more diverse. You may want
“your country back,” but you can’t have it.


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By CHARLES M. BLOW

March 27, 2010


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/27/opinion/27blow.html

The far-right extremists have gone into conniptions.

The bullying, threats, and acts of violence following the passage of health care reform have been shocking, but they’re only the most recent manifestations of an increasing sense of desperation.

It’s an extension of a now-familiar theme: some version of “take our country back.” The problem is that the country romanticized by the far right hasn’t existed for some time, and its ability to deny that fact grows more dim every day. President Obama and what he represents has jolted extremists into the present and forced them to confront the future. And it scares them.

Even the optics must be irritating. A woman (Nancy Pelosi) pushed the health care bill through the House. The bill’s most visible and vocal proponents included a gay man (Barney Frank) and a Jew (Anthony Weiner). And the black man in the White House signed the bill into law. It’s enough to make a good old boy go crazy.

Hence their anger and frustration, which is playing out in ways large and small. There is the current spattering of threats and violence, but there also is the run on guns and the explosive growth of nefarious antigovernment and anti-immigrant groups. In fact, according to a report entitled “Rage on the Right: The Year in Hate and Extremism” recently released by the Southern Poverty Law Center, “nativist extremist” groups that confront and harass suspected immigrants have increased nearly 80 percent since President Obama took office, and antigovernment “patriot” groups more than tripled over that period.

Politically, this frustration is epitomized by the Tea Party movement. It may have some legitimate concerns (taxation, the role of government, etc.), but its message is lost in the madness. And now the anemic Republican establishment, covetous of the Tea Party’s passion, is moving to absorb it, not admonish it. Instead of jettisoning the radical language, rabid bigotry and rising violence, the Republicans justify it. (They don’t want to refute it as much as funnel it.)

There may be a short-term benefit in this strategy, but it’s a long-term loser.

A Quinnipiac University poll released on Wednesday took a look at the Tea Party members and found them to be just as anachronistic to the direction of the country’s demographics as the Republican Party. For instance, they were disproportionately white, evangelical Christian and “less educated ... than the average Joe and Jane Six-Pack.” This at a time when the country is becoming more diverse (some demographers believe that 2010 could be the first year that most children born in the country will be nonwhite), less doctrinally dogmatic, and college enrollment is through the roof. The Tea Party, my friends, is not the future.

You may want “your country back,” but you can’t have it. That sound you hear is the relentless, irrepressible march of change. Welcome to America: The Remix.


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You would think there would be humility in the immigration policy of the US. I could see if this was Europe, but we are all illegals living in US. The settlers were issued deportation notices from the arrows that were shot at them.

What right do we have in telling another group not to migrate here. The land was taken (based on white supremacy) by force from the Native Americans. I look at the actions of Hitler and can't tell a difference between what the settlers did (forced starvation)

Their way of living was looked down upon as inferior but it will do ten laps around the unsustainable crap we have built here, that is cooking the planet and dumping non-biogradeable garbage all over place. The US shouldn't be going around telling 'third' world countries how to develop their economies, when we haven't developed anything sustainable yet. It is similiar to the Subprime mortgage mess, it looked good for a couple of years, than it crashed, except the crash will be billions of people and the planet.

In any event, this is some ploy to get unemployed white americans to vote Republican and blame illegal immigration for not having a job when it was the free trade deals and Wall Street that put them in the unemployment line.

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You would think there would be humility in the immigration policy of the US. I could see if this was Europe, but we are all illegals living in US. The settlers were issued deportation notices from the arrows that were shot at them.

What right do we have in telling another group not to migrate here. The land was taken (based on white supremacy) by force from the Native Americans. I look at the actions of Hitler and can't tell a difference between what the settlers did (forced starvation)

Where do you think Hitler got his inspiration for lebensraum and the Final Solution...

Manifest Destiny, slavery, and the Indian Wars of the good old US of A.

Why black people defend this piece of s**t country is mind-boggling.
 
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Arizona's South African style apartheid "pass law" has not officially gone into effect but that hasn't stopped the police from immediately jailing Mexican American citizens who "look alien"??? - and don't have their "papers" in their possession.



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The law is D.O.A. - Dead On Arrival in any federal court. Even a RepubliKlan <s>FOX</s> FAKE News judge knows this.(see video below) The ugly cac Governor and the posse standing behind her at the signing ceremony press conference reminds me of a white supremacist afrikaners rally in South Africa. The afrikaners are still rallying for white supremacy in 2010, 20 years after Nelson Mandela's release and Black majority rule. These cacs in Arizona are a dying breed. Their kids have embraced multiculturalism and they are stuck in the old race based paradigm.


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Why is Arizona competing with Texas and Georgia for Most Embarassing State? This is the last stand of Insane White Folks. Arizona is 10 years from being a majority-minority state and the minority will not be Blacks or Pacific Islanders.


Where do you think Hitler got his inspiration for lebensraum and the Final Solution...

Manifest Destiny, slavery, and the Indian Wars of the good old US of A.

Why black people defend this piece of s**t country is mind-boggling.

So full of passion but so little maturity. We all go through that stage.
 
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Why is Arizona competing with Texas and Georgia for Most Embarassing State? This is the last stand of Insane White Folks. Arizona is 10 years from being a majority-minority state and the minority will not be Blacks or Pacific Islanders.




So full of passion but so little maturity. We all go through that stage.

You post so much stupid s**t, it is amazing to think you post here.

You never back up a damn thing you post, you act like an expert on things for which true experts expose you, and your answer to every problem is kisssing the honkeys ass.

I know you are going through a stage. Maybe when you mature a little, you'll grow out of it.
 
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Source

70% of Arizona Voters Favor New State Measure Cracking Down On Illegal Immigration

The Arizona legislature has now passed the toughest measure against illegal immigration in the country, authorizing local police to stop and check the immigration status of anyone they suspect of being in the country illegally.

A new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey finds that 70% of likely voters in Arizona approve of the legislation, while just 23% oppose it.
 
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I don't think jailing innocent people is the answer but drug gangs are a clear and present danger so what was she suppose to do. There is a 3 trillion dollar underground economy in the U.S and it could corrupt the whole system. That kind of money can buy a lot of politicians something has to be done and if the Fed won't do it the states have to.
 
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If someone comes across the actual legislation, please post.

Thanks,

QueEx

 
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You post so much stupid s**t, it is amazing to think you post here.

You never back up a damn thing you post, you act like an expert on things for which true experts expose you, and your answer to every problem is kisssing the honkeys ass.

I know you are going through a stage. Maybe when you mature a little, you'll grow out of it.


:lol::lol:
Reading your posts it's obvious that you feel if you tell a lie enough times, it'll become the truth.

And again with the juvenile "I know what you are but what am I?" stuff. :lol:
Somebody get their kid.
 
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Police State? Talk about hypocrisy!

Posting anything to point this out out be too obvious and a waste of time. If you think Tea Baggers had any credibility then any shred of it has just withered away.
 
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Let anyone that is not a Mexican citizen go to Mexico and try to buy property, open up a bank accountant, or deal with the police and see how you will be treated in Mexico. You the American citizen are under attack in your own nation, you are asked for your papers when you apply for licence, open up a bank account...etc, stopped by the poilce for minor infractions and issued $100 tickets for going 5 miles above the speed limit and the system is sqeezing all the money they can out of the American citizen :smh:. Let you be an illegal alien you will get away with murder here in the US drunk driving, gang bangers killing and rapping...etc...the red carpet is rolled out for you. The majority of illegal aliens comes from Mexico and the average Mexican hates America. Let us try to protest like we do here in America down in Mexico and speak out against the Mexican government and see what happens:hmm:.
WHAT DO THE STATES DO WHEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL NOT ENFORCE THE BORDER???
 
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Let anyone that is not a Mexican citizen go to Mexico and try to buy property, open up a bank accountant, or deal with the police and see how you will be treated in Mexico. You the American citizen are under attack in your own nation, you are asked for your papers when you apply for licence, open up a bank account...etc, stopped by the poilce for minor infractions and issued $100 tickets for going 5 miles above the speed limit and the system is sqeezing all the money they can out of the American citizen :smh:. Let you be an illegal alien you will get away with murder here in the US drunk driving, gang bangers killing and rapping...etc...the red carpet is rolled out for you. The majority of illegal aliens comes from Mexico and the average Mexican hates America. Let us try to protest like we do here in America down in Mexico and speak out against the Mexican government and see what happens:hmm:.
WHAT DO THE STATES DO WHEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL NOT ENFORCE THE BORDER???


Who's giving them the reason to come here? Businesses that would rather pay illegals less than minimum wages and not pay Americans. Fine those employers $1000 for the first illegal they hire, $5000 for the second and $10,000 for everyone after that. We will see how many illegals come here then, because there will be no jobs for them. Right wingers create the problem and then create a police state to solve it?

Conservatism = Bizarro World
 
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how are there countries impoverished by american policies???

I would have to refer you to some great books that quote actual American military and foreign policy documents where the systematic destruction of other countries (many of which were Latin) economically, morally and physically were executed with 100% backing of the US government.

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Also there is a illustrated comic version of the above book...

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Why is Arizona competing with Texas and Georgia for Most Embarassing State? This is the last stand of Insane White Folks. Arizona is 10 years from being a majority-minority state and the minority will not be Blacks or Pacific Islanders.

The author of Arizona's racial profiling law is state senator Russell Pearce. Pearce is a white supremacist & Nazi sympathizer. Pearce is a racist law machine, pumping out statute after statute targeting the Latino segment of Arizona's population. 95% of the "corporate-media-of-distraction" has avoided informing their viewers about senator Pearce. Below are pictures of bill author Pearce attending a neo-Nazi rally. One of the few shows that connected the dots linking the Arizona racial profiling law with white supremacist Nazi sympathizer Pearce was the Rachel Maddow show. The clip is below.


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America is going bankrupt because of illegal aliens, try going to a any country in 3rd world, and lets see if you get free healthcare(besides Cuba), welfare, open up bank account, or if a women is pregnent and they grant her child citizenship in that country lets just see.

The most important section of the legislation is excerpted here. Notice that it mentions "reasonable suspicion," meaning liberals and ethnocentric groups who complain about random searches are ill-informed or lying. And also notice that the authorities may not "solely consider race, color or national origin" when verifying the status of suspected illegal immigrants.

B. FOR ANY LAWFUL CONTACT MADE BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY OF THIS STATE OR A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY OF A COUNTY, CITY, TOWN OR OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THIS STATE WHERE REASONABLE SUSPICION EXISTS THAT THE PERSON IS AN ALIEN WHO IS UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES, A REASONABLE ATTEMPT SHALL BE MADE, WHEN PRACTICABLE, TO DETERMINE THE IMMIGRATION STATUS OF THE PERSON, EXCEPT IF THE DETERMINATION MAY HINDER OR OBSTRUCT AN INVESTIGATION. ANY PERSON WHO IS ARRESTED SHALL HAVE THE PERSON'S IMMIGRATION STATUS DETERMINED BEFORE THE PERSON IS RELEASED. THE PERSON'S IMMIGRATION STATUS SHALL BE VERIFIED WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PURSUANT TO 8 UNITED STATES CODE SECTION 1373(c). A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR AGENCY OF THIS STATE OR A COUNTY, CITY, TOWN OR OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THIS STATE MAY NOT SOLELY CONSIDER RACE, COLOR OR NATIONAL ORIGIN IN IMPLEMENTING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS SUBSECTION EXCEPT TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY THE UNITED STATES OR ARIZONA CONSTITUTION. A PERSON IS PRESUMED TO NOT BE AN ALIEN WHO IS UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES IF THE PERSON PROVIDES TO THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER OR AGENCY ANY OF THE FOLLOWING:
1. A VALID ARIZONA DRIVER LICENSE.
2. A VALID ARIZONA NONOPERATING IDENTIFICATION LICENSE.
3. A VALID TRIBAL ENROLLMENT CARD OR OTHER FORM OF TRIBAL IDENTIFICATION.
4. IF THE ENTITY REQUIRES PROOF OF LEGAL PRESENCE IN THE UNITED STATES BEFORE ISSUANCE, ANY VALID UNITED STATES FEDERAL, STATE OR LOCAL GOVERNMENT ISSUED IDENTIFICATION.





Here is the Bill http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070h.pdf.
 
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America is going bankrupt because of illegal aliens, try going to a any country in 3rd world besides Cuba, and lets see if you get free healthcare, welfare, open up bank account, or if a women is pregnent and they grant her child citizenship that country lets just see.

Here is the Bill http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070h.pdf.

Your threads are informative and insightful. I learn a lot from reading them and from the discussions that follow.

But this is a ridiculous statement...

America is going bankrupt because of illegal aliens

This country is going broke because the banks, corporations, and Federal government are robbing the people blind through wars, de-industrialization, and monopolization.

It's much easier to attack the weak and powerless than the strong, organized, and determined. But, that is where the problem lies.
 
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America is going bankrupt because of illegal aliens, try going to a any country in 3rd world, and lets see if you get free healthcare(besides Cuba), welfare, open up bank account, or if a women is pregnent and they grant her child citizenship in that country lets just see.

The most important section of the legislation is excerpted here. Notice that it mentions "reasonable suspicion," meaning liberals and ethnocentric groups who complain about random searches are ill-informed or lying. And also notice that the authorities may not "solely consider race, color or national origin" when verifying the status of suspected illegal immigrants.

B. FOR ANY LAWFUL CONTACT MADE BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY OF THIS STATE OR A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY OF A COUNTY, CITY, TOWN OR OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THIS STATE WHERE REASONABLE SUSPICION EXISTS THAT THE PERSON IS AN ALIEN WHO IS UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES, A REASONABLE ATTEMPT SHALL BE MADE, WHEN PRACTICABLE, TO DETERMINE THE IMMIGRATION STATUS OF THE PERSON, EXCEPT IF THE DETERMINATION MAY HINDER OR OBSTRUCT AN INVESTIGATION. ANY PERSON WHO IS ARRESTED SHALL HAVE THE PERSON'S IMMIGRATION STATUS DETERMINED BEFORE THE PERSON IS RELEASED. THE PERSON'S IMMIGRATION STATUS SHALL BE VERIFIED WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PURSUANT TO 8 UNITED STATES CODE SECTION 1373(c). A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR AGENCY OF THIS STATE OR A COUNTY, CITY, TOWN OR OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THIS STATE MAY NOT SOLELY CONSIDER RACE, COLOR OR NATIONAL ORIGIN IN IMPLEMENTING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS SUBSECTION EXCEPT TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY THE UNITED STATES OR ARIZONA CONSTITUTION. A PERSON IS PRESUMED TO NOT BE AN ALIEN WHO IS UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES IF THE PERSON PROVIDES TO THE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER OR AGENCY ANY OF THE FOLLOWING:
1. A VALID ARIZONA DRIVER LICENSE.
2. A VALID ARIZONA NONOPERATING IDENTIFICATION LICENSE.
3. A VALID TRIBAL ENROLLMENT CARD OR OTHER FORM OF TRIBAL IDENTIFICATION.
4. IF THE ENTITY REQUIRES PROOF OF LEGAL PRESENCE IN THE UNITED STATES BEFORE ISSUANCE, ANY VALID UNITED STATES FEDERAL, STATE OR LOCAL GOVERNMENT ISSUED IDENTIFICATION.





Here is the Bill http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070h.pdf.


Your very post shows what's wrong and unconstitutional about the law: a person has to prove their not illegal aliens instead of the authorities having to prove they are.
 
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Your threads are informative and insightful. I learn a lot from reading them and from the discussions that follow.

But this is a ridiculous statement...



This country is going broke because the banks, corporations, and Federal government are robbing the people blind through wars, de-industrialization, and monopolization.

It's much easier to attack the weak and powerless than the strong, organized, and determined. But, that is where the problem lies.



Gotdammit, Cruise and I agree on something. :D

I'll be right back, I'm going to play the numbers and hope I don't get struck by lightening.
 
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Illegal immigration is one of the reasons and not the only reason, all the reasons you mentioned below I agree with 100%.
But this is a ridiculous statement...



This country is going broke because the banks, corporations, and Federal government are robbing the people blind through wars, de-industrialization, and monopolization.

It's much easier to attack the weak and powerless than the strong, organized, and determined. But, that is where the problem lies.
 
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If Sen.Schumer and Sen.Graham get their way everyone in this country will be showing a National I.D to prove their legal status.

Ready for Your Biometric Social Security Card?


Could a national identity card help resolve the heated immigration-reform divide?

Two Senators, New York Democrat Chuck Schumer and South Carolina Republican Lindsey Graham, certainly seem to think so. They recently presented an immigration-bill blueprint to President Barack Obama that includes a proposal to issue a biometric ID card — one that would contain physical data such as fingerprints or retinal scans — to all working Americans. The "enhanced Social Security card" is being touted as a way to curb illegal immigration by giving employers the power to quickly and accurately determine who is eligible to work. "If you say [illegal immigrants] can't get a job when they come here, you'll stop it," Schumer told the Wall Street Journal. Proponents also hope legal hiring will be easier for employers if there's a single go-to document instead of the 26 that new employees can currently use to show they're authorized to work.

But with a congressional skirmish over comprehensive immigration reform on the horizon, skeptics from the left and the right have raised numerous concerns about the biometric ID — some of which pop up every time a form of national identification is proposed, and some that hinge on the shape this plan ultimately takes.
(See 25 gotta-have travel gadgets.)


The sheer scale of the project is a potential problem, in terms of time, money and technology. The premise of using a biometric employment card (which would most likely contain fingerprint data) to stop illegal immigrants from working requires that all 150 million–plus American workers, not just immigrants, have one. Michael Cherry, president of identification-technology company Cherry Biometrics, says the accuracy of such large-scale biometric measuring hasn't been proved. "What study have we done?" he says. "We just have a few assumptions."

Schumer estimates that employers would have to pay up to $800 for card-reading machines, and many point out that compliance could prove burdensome for many small-to-medium-size businesses. In a similar program run by the Department of Homeland Security, in which 1.4 million transportation workers have been issued biometric credentials, applicants each pay $132.50 to help cover the costs of the initiative, which so far run in the hundreds of millions. "This is sort of like the worst combination of the DMV and the TSA," says Chris Calabrese, legislative counsel for the ACLU, an organization that has traditionally opposed all forms of national ID. "It's going to be enormously costly no matter what."
(See photos of the High Seas Border Patrol in action.)


Lynden Melmed, former chief counsel for U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, says the pace of expanding the program is crucial. He believes that issuing the cards on a rolling basis and viewing them as "the next version of the driver's license" makes the idea of a nationally issued biometric ID seem much less daunting. "I think that there is a risk in overreaching too quickly," he says.

Another potential issue is whether the card will result in people being wrongfully denied work. The average person isn't equipped to determine whether two fingerprints are a match — even FBI fingerprint experts have their off days, as when they incorrectly implicated a Portland, Ore., attorney in the 2004 bombings in Madrid — which means employers would be relying on an automated system. And that, as well as the fingerprinting process itself, invariably leads to some small number of mistakes.
(See how border-patrol officials are securing the perimeter.)


In testimony given at a Senate immigration hearing in July 2009, Illinois Representative Luis V. Gutierrez, who has led the drive for immigration reform in the House, pointed out that an error rate of just 1% would mean that more than 1.5 million people — roughly the population of Philadelphia — would be wrongly deemed ineligible for work. "This is no small number," he said, "especially in this economy, where so many workers already face extraordinary obstacles to finding a job." Dean Pradeep Khosla, founding director of Carnegie Mellon's cybersecurity lab, estimates that the error rates of computerized systems would likely be less than 2% (and could be less than 1%) but says they can never be zero. Civil-liberties advocates, citing the secret post-9/11 no-fly lists that innocents couldn't get their names removed from, worry about whether those mistakenly put on the no-job list will ever be given the chance to correct the information.

Many skeptics also worry about false positives that come not from the computer but from counterfeits or employers looking to bypass the system. "It's naive to think that this document won't be faked," Calabrese says. "Folks are already paying $10,000 to sneak into the country. What's a couple thousand more?" In a recent Washington Post op-ed, Schumer and Graham said the card would be "fraud-proof" and that employers would face "stiff fines" and possibly imprisonment if they tried to get around using it. But Cherry half-jokes that someone could falsify such an ID in 15 minutes, and Khosla says that while current technology makes fingerprints the most feasible biometric marker to use, they're also one of the easiest to steal.

Lillie Coney, associate director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, believes that keeping biometric information out of a centralized database is "the biggest challenge." Otherwise, she says, the prospect of having millions of fingerprints on hand would be too tempting for the government not to abuse. In their op-ed, the Senators said the information would be stored only on the card.

Although the card is being presented as existing solely for determining employment eligibility, "it will be almost impossible to say that this wealth of information is there, but you can only use it for this purpose," Coney says. "Privacy is pretty much hinged on the notion that if you collect data for one purpose, you can't use it for another." Calabrese expresses worries that this ID will become a "central identity document" that one will need in order to travel, vote or perhaps own a gun, which Melmed calls "mission creep."

Some dismiss privacy concerns as reflections of general government mistrust rather than legitimate technology issues. But Melmed believes that the practical issues will have to be addressed before the "social-acceptance debate" over biometric cards can even begin, and both rely on many details that the Senators have yet to present. "People are waiting to see something in writing," Calabrese says. "But the idea doesn't fill people with a warm, fuzzy feeling."



http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1974927,00.html?xid=rss-topstories

Your very post shows what's wrong and unconstitutional about the law: a person has to prove their not illegal aliens instead of the authorities having to prove they are.
 
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The very same banks that America has backed up and have done this to Latin America, Africa, and Asia is now turning on America/Europe till they bring us down to a 3rd world level and rob the middle classes wealth. America will be just like 3rd world country in which their will be only rich and poor :smh:.


I would have to refer you to some great books that quote actual American military and foreign policy documents where the systematic destruction of other countries (many of which were Latin) economically, morally and physically were executed with 100% backing of the US government.
 
Re: Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer signs US's toughest immigration law; Obama slams as civil

The very same banks that America has backed up and have done this to Latin America, Africa, and Asia is now turning on America/Europe till they bring us down to a 3rd world level and rob the middle classes wealth. America will be just like 3rd world country in which their will be only rich and poor :smh:.

Agreed.
 
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The very same banks that America has backed up and have done this to Latin America, Africa, and Asia is now turning on America/Europe till they bring us down to a 3rd world level and rob the middle classes wealth. America will be just like 3rd world country in which their will be only rich and poor :smh:.

I have accepted this MUST happen.

The United States and its people have no history of acting responsibly as a world power. My only hope is to be ready when this eventually happens because it will not be pretty.
 
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I have accepted this MUST happen.

The United States and its people have no history of acting responsibly as a world power. My only hope is to be ready when this eventually happens because it will not be pretty.

Ditto.

Self-sufficiency will be key.
 
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