Are Democrats online at all?

DJCandle

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I look around at the landscape of social media, podcasting and the Internet in general, and it almost feels as if there’s no Democratic/Liberal presence at all. All you tend to see is right wing podcasters like Joe Rogan, looking for shock jock effects or 0:05 headliners, or an Elon musk promoting fight videos and debauchery left right and center. The simpletons eat this stuff up.

There are very few sensible and reasonable liberals out there at all, which is probably because they’re busy learning, reading, studying, trying new things, etc etc and I get that in this sound bite clipped headliner social media, having a conversation that includes context, goes against the actual internet itself but do they exist?

I know all the usual suspects, Mehdi Hasan, Joy Reid, Van Lathan all have their independent endeavors, but are there more?

What do liberals need to do in order to compete in the online space?
 
If you are really saying a strong or gravitating personality, compared to Joe or Elon. Id say because liberals usually have this stance of wanting to look respectful to the public. There have been a few exceptions as of late, but their image is more important than be polarizing.

For instance, people ( particularly minorities) don't support Trump because he's wealthy or intelligent. He generally speaks and unfortunately acts like the everyday person. He's an elites who enjoys McDonald's. Until you get liberals who are willing to speak more freely, you'll never have as many personalities on the liberal side. They enjoy playing characters too much instead of being human/relatable.

Initially, even Elon talked to his customers and made them feel like he cared. It may not be their intent, but liberals have a habit of making people feel ( not exactly what i want to say) less than. Kind of an elites attitude. If you've been following the JBP drama you'll understand. Like it or not, the right has a way of making their people feel welcomed even though they generally aren't acting in their interest.
 
If you are really saying a strong or gravitating personality, compared to Joe or Elon. Id say because liberals usually have this stance of wanting to look respectful to the public. There have been a few exceptions as of late, but their image is more important than be polarizing.

For instance, people ( particularly minorities) don't support Trump because he's wealthy or intelligent. He generally speaks and unfortunately acts like the everyday person. He's an elites who enjoys McDonald's. Until you get liberals who are willing to speak more freely, you'll never have as many personalities on the liberal side. They enjoy playing characters too much instead of being human/relatable.

Initially, even Elon talked to his customers and made them feel like he cared. It may not be their intent, but liberals have a habit of making people feel ( not exactly what i want to say) less than. Kind of an elites attitude. If you've been following the JBP drama you'll understand. Like it or not, the right has a way of making their people feel welcomed even though they generally aren't acting in their interest.
I’ll disagree with this take but I get what you’re trying to say.
 
I’ll disagree with this take but I get what you’re trying to say.

Respect.

But what do the names you listed have in common? What made you choose those names? More importantly, to your original question, what is the liberal equivalent? Let's say you aren't into this space.kind of the same question .what liberal in general has the mass appeal of the people you listed?

Just to give another example and to be clear it's only that, as he was a piece of shit. I knew who Charlie Kirk was high level before he was killed. Im not really into politics or social commentating, yet I was still familiar.

I don't want to simplify it, but i believe it is more so a branding and relatability issue.


Joe for example is into the conspiracy theory shit. This pulls in alot of people from our community. He has their attention so it doesn't take much to turn some of them. His friendship with people like Dave Chappelle gives them an excuse to ignore Joe supporting people like Trump. Because if Joe were racist, Dave wouldn't be cool with him.even if you acknowledge Joe's shit, you still tune in because he entertains you overall.
 
I look around at the landscape of social media, podcasting and the Internet in general, and it almost feels as if there’s no Democratic/Liberal presence at all. All you tend to see is right wing podcasters like Joe Rogan, looking for shock jock effects or 0:05 headliners, or an Elon musk promoting fight videos and debauchery left right and center. The simpletons eat this stuff up.

There are very few sensible and reasonable liberals out there at all, which is probably because they’re busy learning, reading, studying, trying new things, etc etc and I get that in this sound bite clipped headliner social media, having a conversation that includes context, goes against the actual internet itself but do they exist?

I know all the usual suspects, Mehdi Hasan, Joy Reid, Van Lathan all have their independent endeavors, but are there more?

What do liberals need to do in order to compete in the online space?
Uh... yeah there is a ton of liberal podcasts midas touch is one of the biggest online platforms in the political space regularly trending above rogan in the past year.

Majority Report is one of the better ones.

Check out Chris Norlund as well. I often disagree but his positions are always well considered.

Oh Reese Waters.... gotta fuck with the home team.
 
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Respect.

But what do the names you listed have in common? What made you choose those names? More importantly, to your original question, what is the liberal equivalent? Let's say you aren't into this space.kind of the same question .what liberal in general has the mass appeal of the people you listed?

I don't want to simplify it, but i believe it is more so a branding and relatability issue.
Exactly the point of the question and I think you answered it with the second part about branding.

I disagree with the relatability take because most liberals you talk to are fairly down to earth. Yes, they have an education level that isn’t available to most conservatives, so that may see to make them “out of touch.” I can kinda see that, but Bernie also won West Virginia in 2016 and won big so is it relatability? I don’t think so.

Branding however may be spot on. The current Conservative Party is one massive grift that isn’t rooted in any long term project but maximizing its dollars via media presence, stock manipulation etc. Democrats need to run into this short term space and fast because they’re being outpaced on the very internet they created. Not through grifting but through first being as present as its counterpart and most importantly, consistently.

 
Before this leaves my head or i just stop caring.lol

Marc Lamont Hill is a good example of what I mean. Again, i was aware of who Marc was, but not interested enough to follow his career.

When he came to the JBP, he was able to show that he wasn't just an intellectual. He was able to show more of his personality in this format and come off as more relatable. He's shared some events of his life and his family that shifts how most would view him. Even the recent fight with Flip showed he was more human than machine programmed to be perfect. In turn I subscribed to his channel and watch NightSchool.

This is why I disagree with the pod Angela Rye has in terms of Marc should not be on the JPB. Whenever Joe allows it, Marc can educate people on issues that impact the world. Maybe he is the same wherever but I don't believe you get this version of Marc outside the JPB.

As someone in the middle, these types of things has to be packaged in the right way. Everyone can't be charismatic like Barack Obama, but you can be relatable. There is a side that you'll never be able to change their view. The otherside supports you already. Your target should be the people like myself in the middle. Being relatable may be enough to win people who weren't interested in say Palestine to support your views or tune in.

Or you can continue to believe being good and doing the right thing is enough. People want to touch men; not worship demigods. At least in this instance.
 
A few off the top of my head that are really good.
  • The Majority Report
  • Francesca Fortini
  • Kyle Kulinski
  • Krystal Ball
  • David Pakman
The problem with all of those is that they are strictly political podcasts.

Joe Rogan works because he has a podcast about a bunch of shit that sometimes has politicians on it. Only political junkies are going to watch podcasts that are only about politics.
 
The problem with all of those is that they are strictly political podcasts.

Joe Rogan works because he has a podcast about a bunch of shit that sometimes has politicians on it. Only political junkies are going to watch podcasts that are only about politics.
Of course, but Meidas Touch surpassed Hoegan this year.
 
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