AOC: "In any other country, Joe Biden and I would not be in the same party"

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AOC: 'In any other country, Joe Biden and I would not be in the same party'
Ocasio-Cortez labeled House Democrats' centrist wing "the tea party of the left."
By QUINT FORGEY
01/06/2020 08:25 AM EST

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said in an interview published Monday that Democrats nationwide can cultivate “too big of a tent,” asserting that she and her party’s 2020 frontrunner, former Vice President Joe Biden, would be in different political parties in any other nation.
Asked for a profile by New York Magazine about what role she might play as a member of Congress should Biden capture the White House, the freshman House Democrat from New York responded with a groan.

“Oh God,” she said. “In any other country, Joe Biden and I would not be in the same party, but in America, we are.”

A spokesperson for the Biden campaign did not immediately return a request for comment.

The remarks by Ocasio-Cortez represent a fresh repudiation of Biden, who spent decades in the Senate before serving as vice president. He is widely seen as the standard-bearer in the 2020 race for moderate Democrats and has voiced opposition to progressive legislation championed by Ocasio-Cortez and her allies.

The congresswoman — who has endorsed Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders in the party’s nominating contest — previously launched what was widely viewed as a thinly veiled attack against Biden’s climate change proposals at an event in Washington in May.

“I will be damned if the same politicians who refused to act then are going to try to come back today and say we need to find a middle-of-the-road approach to save our lives. That is too much for me,” Ocasio-Cortez said, after Reuters had reported that Biden was crafting a “middle ground approach” to combating the global threat.

For his part, Biden has praised Ocasio-Cortez and other members of the left-leaning “squad” of freshman congresswomen as “brilliant” and “really smart,” but warned their political ideology was not representative of most elected Democrats.

“They are the exception rather than the rule,” he told MSNBC in July. “If you listen to the guys and women in your business, they say, ‘That’s the majority of people who got elected.’ We need that kind of energy, but that’s not the majority of Democrats who got elected last time.”

Ocasio-Cortez also offered criticism in Monday’s story for congressional Democrats, accusing her party’s lawmakers of too often working to appease the interests of their most conservative members. She has frequently broken with House Democratic leadership since assuming office in January 2019.

“For so long, when I first got in, people were like, ‘Oh, are you going to basically be a tea party of the left?’ And what people don’t realize is that there is a tea party of the left, but it’s on the right edges, the most conservative parts of the Democratic Party,” Ocasio-Cortez said.

“So the Democratic Party has a role to play in this problem, and it’s like we’re not allowed to talk about it. We’re not allowed to talk about anything wrong the Democratic Party does,” she continued. “I think I have created more room for dissent, and we’re learning to stretch our wings a little bit on the left.”

Ocasio-Cortez said the Congressional Progressive Caucus, of which she is a member, should expel lawmakers without adequate liberal bona fides, charging that “they let anybody who the cat dragged in call themselves a progressive. There’s no standard.”

The broader Democratic Party, as well, “can be too big of a tent,” she said.

 
So she still hasn't gotten it. Her style of progress works in NY but is alarming to the average person in Alabama. You can't just make a statement like "Defund the Police" and not also take the time to fully explain what it means because the average Alabama citizen has no idea what you mean. The closest thing they know about someone having a mental episode is the Johnson's kid with autism having a tantrum during church last week.

Biden won because he knew you have to step that talk back a bit for the small town crowd to understand.
 
So she still hasn't gotten it. Her style of progress works in NY but is alarming to the average person in Alabama. You can't just make a statement like "Defund the Police" and not also take the time to fully explain what it means because the average Alabama citizen has no idea what you mean. The closest thing they know about someone having a mental episode is the Johnson's kid with autism having a tantrum during church last week.

Biden won because he knew you have to step that talk back a bit for the small town crowd to understand.

She's young, she'll learn.

hopefully
 
The AOC/Squad/far left vs Biden/Harris/Pelosi wars will be epic. With Trump out the way, the moderates getting all that heat. :popcorn:

The progressives should start the ground work. For starting a new party. Because the democrats clearly don't give a fuck about them. And it will be their downfall.
 
The progressives should start the ground work. For starting a new party. Because the democrats clearly don't give a fuck about them. And it will be their downfall.

This! you make noise at the local and state level. Get your candidates in place and push your agenda. Once your folks start winning, they have no choice but to listen.

Spineless ass Dems. So damn wishy washy. You cannot appease everyone. Especially these racist repubs. Hell, someone needs to challenge Pelosi.
 
This! you make noise at the local and state level. Get your candidates in place and push your agenda. Once your folks start winning, they have no choice but to listen.

Spineless ass Dems. So damn wishy washy. You cannot appease everyone. Especially these racist repubs. Hell, someone needs to challenge Pelosi.
The young turks did a story, where there is rumblings. That there's a group of Democrats that wants to replace her.

If you ask me, the whole Dnc leadership needs to be changed. If not, the current democratic party might as well join the Republican party. And the progressives will flourish and become the new dominate party.

It makes no sense for the Democrats to go further right. There's already a party that does that.
 
So she still hasn't gotten it. Her style of progress works in NY but is alarming to the average person in Alabama. You can't just make a statement like "Defund the Police" and not also take the time to fully explain what it means because the average Alabama citizen has no idea what you mean. The closest thing they know about someone having a mental episode is the Johnson's kid with autism having a tantrum during church last week.

Biden won because he knew you have to step that talk back a bit for the small town crowd to understand.
You shouldn't make such a statement period. Say what you mean a d mean what you say.
I don't fuck with extremes on either side. Truth be told the dems would be better of without the far left. The far left should start their own party or become independents because the dem party is just too big.
 
The AOC/Squad/far left vs Biden/Harris/Pelosi wars will be epic. With Trump out the way, the moderates getting all that heat. :popcorn:
Trump’s removal will jump start the “purple party”.

I wonder what side BGOL political pundits will join? :rolleyes:
 
So she still hasn't gotten it. Her style of progress works in NY but is alarming to the average person in Alabama. You can't just make a statement like "Defund the Police" and not also take the time to fully explain what it means because the average Alabama citizen has no idea what you mean. The closest thing they know about someone having a mental episode is the Johnson's kid with autism having a tantrum during church last week.

Biden won because he knew you have to step that talk back a bit for the small town crowd to understand.

but the progressive candidates won
while the centrists lost

all acrross the world, centrists are losing

Biden won because of the progressive votes
the ones that actually put in the work at the ground level
they are the ones that brought out the vote
 
AOC is intelligent, political astute with regards to organizing, and still mad at her? Trump won with FORCE and quick wit. Folks always talk about how Dems need to be harder and tougher...welp here she is. She is the only one talking about what Black people have EARNED and deserve, she calls out Republicans on bullshit and tackles Democrats that are already capitulating to big banks (Jefferies). Shit I am conservative on most things military, immigration and fiscal, but fuck all this make friends with Republican zealot bullshit.

Centrist Democrat can't find friends in insane Red locales, its a waste of time and funding..see Kentucky. 140 million wasted.

We had Al Franken and sacrificed for a white female. Now what do the dems have to fight Mcconnell? Id take her in the Senate Bill over Shumer. Id take her as House leader over fucking Pelosi.
 
So she still hasn't gotten it. Her style of progress works in NY but is alarming to the average person in Alabama. You can't just make a statement like "Defund the Police" and not also take the time to fully explain what it means because the average Alabama citizen has no idea what you mean. The closest thing they know about someone having a mental episode is the Johnson's kid with autism having a tantrum during church last week.

Biden won because he knew you have to step that talk back a bit for the small town crowd to understand.
You aren't getting Alabama regardless. Focus on getting the progressive voters out to the polls
 
but the progressive candidates won
while the centrists lost

all acrross the world, centrists are losing

Biden won because of the progressive votes
the ones that actually put in the work at the ground level
they are the ones that brought out the vote
We shall see in 2 years without Trump on the ballot how centrists do vs liberals.
 
Look the progressive left needs to calm down. One of the reasons Biden won but the house and Senate had a worse night is because a lot of people arent buying with the progressive left is selling.

And these folks don t get that. Like Pelosi told her "Where are your votes for your agenda?"

Folks aren t with that progressive shit.
 
So she still hasn't gotten it. Her style of progress works in NY but is alarming to the average person in Alabama. You can't just make a statement like "Defund the Police" and not also take the time to fully explain what it means because the average Alabama citizen has no idea what you mean. The closest thing they know about someone having a mental episode is the Johnson's kid with autism having a tantrum during church last week.

Biden won because he knew you have to step that talk back a bit for the small town crowd to understand.
have to agree that defund the police is a horrible slogan but the problem with small town rural voters isn't progressive ideas its their xenophobia of all things not old white and male and what that represents to them.
 
Look the progressive left needs to calm down. One of the reasons Biden won but the house and Senate had a worse night is because a lot of people arent buying with the progressive left is selling.

And these folks don t get that. Like Pelosi told her "Where are your votes for your agenda?"

Folks aren t with that progressive shit.

again
its the progressives that were winning their battles

the centrists are the one that lost
 
Look the progressive left needs to calm down. One of the reasons Biden won but the house and Senate had a worse night is because a lot of people arent buying with the progressive left is selling.

And these folks don t get that. Like Pelosi told her "Where are your votes for your agenda?"

Folks aren t with that progressive shit.
that "progressive shit" is why you aren't a slave today and why you have the right to vote. :hmm: :hmm: :hmm:
 
You shouldn't make such a statement period. Say what you mean a d mean what you say.
I don't fuck with extremes on either side. Truth be told the dems would be better of without the far left. The far left should start their own party or become independents because the dem party is just too big.
If the far left starts thier own party... :itsawrap:
Democrats and the new party would never win anything outside of a few local seats for the next 100 years.
I Think Stacy Abrams would be a better far left leader than AOC.
 
If the far left starts thier own party... :itsawrap:
Democrats and the new party would never win anything outside of a few local seats for the next 100 years.
I Think Stacy Abrams would be a better far left leader than AOC.
I believe that's true for the new party butbthe dm party wouod actually atract more people and bring back people who left because the party started leaning to hard left.
This country is center to center right and black folk are traditionally conservative.
 
that "progressive shit" is why you aren't a slave today and why you have the right to vote. :hmm: :hmm: :hmm:
That progressive shit is why congress is coming down to two run off elections in which democrats likely will lose.

What agenda is getting done now with Mcconnell holding the Senate hostage. I ll wait?
 
What these progressives dont understand is that they hang their fellow democrats in red and purple districts out to dry with their bullshit.
They're no different than the Trump supporters. They live in a bubble.
Once they move outside of that little world, then they will discover that the world is much larger.
 
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