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well actually I have a couple:

Do they come with speakers? I know that's a dumb question but I never seem to see any speakers. In Crutchfield, I see an extra speaker that is as wide as the TV itself.

What is better? Bracket mounting or using the TV stand? Can the television be secured?


Thanks for your help.

Oh and has anyone seen the 65" Sharp Aquos?
 
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Features
Next-Generation 16:9 LCD Panel
from Sharp’s state-of-the-art Kameyama factory.
Full HDTV Spec (1920 x 1080)
displays HDTV program images in 1080p and is compatible with off-air (terrestrial), cable and satellite HDTV broadcasts.2
Digital Cable Ready with CableCARD™ Slot
enables cable subscribers to receive HDTV channels using a CableCARD™, which is supplied by your cable TV system provider. The CableCARD™ is inserted into the TV's CableCARD™ slot, and after the service is activated through your service provider, the card replaces the need for a separate set-top box for easy "Plug and Play" capability. Please contact your local cable company for more information.
New 4-Wavelength Backlight System
provides enhanced color reproduction with deeper, more vivid reds than previously possible.
TV Guide On Screen®
electronic program guide provides easy sorting and tuning of channels.
High Brightness (450 cd/m2)
AQUOS® Liquid Crystal Televisions are very bright. You can put them anywhere – even near windows, doors or other light sources – and the picture is still vivid.
High Contrast Ratio (1200:1)
provides incredible images whether you're watching dark or bright scenes.
Wide Viewing Angles (170º H x 170º V)
Sharp's viewing angles are so wide, you can view the TV clearly from anywhere in the room!
Detachable Speakers / Included Table Stand
are the ultimate in convenience.
Quick Shoot
Sharp's proprietary fast response time video circuit, for response time of 6ms.

Specifications
Screen Size Class 65"
Diagonal Measurement 64-17/32"
Panel Type Active Matrix (a-si TFT) Advanced Super View LCD
Pixel Resolution 1920 x 1080
Video System NTSC
Brightness 450 cd/m2
Lamp Life 60,000 hours3
Viewing Angles 170º H / 170º V
Audio System 10W + 10W
 
well actually I have a couple:

Do they come with speakers? I know that's a dumb question but I never seem to see any speakers. In Crutchfield, I see an extra speaker that is as wide as the TV itself.

What is better? Bracket mounting or using the TV stand? Can the television be secured?


Thanks for your help.

Oh and has anyone seen the 65" Sharp Aquos?
no question is a dumb question......lol

based on the ones i saw and the one that i bought they did not come w/ speakers, they were just built in.
you can use either or as far as the mounting or stand. if you get the mounting it will be secured. that's funny you asked, i was debating on mounting my flat panel as well....as far as the sharp aquos? havent seen it yet, but it looks nice as hell. but whatever you do get a warranty on it. it's something about them damn flat panels. i think my mom bought a 65 inch widescreen flatpanel, and after like 6 or 7 months the damn bulb went out on it, im glad she had that damn warranty plan w/ it.....get at least a 3 or 4 year plan w/ it.
 
no question is a dumb question......lol

based on the ones i saw and the one that i bought they did not come w/ speakers, they were just built in.
you can use either or as far as the mounting or stand. if you get the mounting it will be secured. that's funny you asked, i was debating on mounting my flat panel as well....as far as the sharp aquos? havent seen it yet, but it looks nice as hell. but whatever you do get a warranty on it. it's something about them damn flat panels. i think my mom bought a 65 inch widescreen flatpanel, and after like 6 or 7 months the damn bulb went out on it, im glad she had that damn warranty plan w/ it.....get at least a 3 or 4 year plan w/ it.


Thanks for the info. Now that I see it, it looks too big. I don't know if I can get it mounted because I have a TV niche over my fireplace that is pretty deep.

I like the freestanding idea though.

But maybe a 46" would work.
 
Thanks for the info. Now that I see it, it looks too big. I don't know if I can get it mounted because I have a TV niche over my fireplace that is pretty deep.

I like the freestanding idea though.

But maybe a 46" would work.

Do not mount an LCD/Plasma TV above a fireplace. Unless you never intend on lighting the fire. Smoke is very bad for these TV's and will degrade the TV, shortening it's Lifespan/usage.

If you mount it, use "cantilever" so you change the angle. It's said that rear projection and LCD is best viewed at eye level.

It has to be 1080P!

Be sure to inquire about the viewing distance before purchasing too large a TV.

Look for multiple HDMI ports. Get stuck with one and an HDAV selector can cost up to $199.
 
Do they come with speakers? I know that's a dumb question but I never seem to see any speakers.

unfortunately the answer won't help you. some have speakers, some don't.

What is better? Bracket mounting or using the TV stand? Can the television be secured?

this question can only be answered by you, and will largely depend upon your viewing area. is there a fixed viewing area? then the answer is stand, fixed, or tilt mount. is there limited floor space in the viewing room? then you have no room for the stand footprint, and wall mount is your only real option. will the display be in an area which is visible from other rooms? e.g. dining room living room combination, family room kitchen combo. then your solution would probably be a fully articulating wall mount.

peerless brand is reliable and has good prices.

good luck.
 
femme go with the Bravia I have two and they're the shit.. also you might want to mount your tv cuz i hate lookin down on my other(i have one mounted) one..

as far as security.. i have a 60 inch bravia that has been mounted for a year now with no probs..
 
Yes, they come with speakers. And most of the speakers are at least decent.
Mounting depends on the surface. You better find a stud because sheet rock won't support 100lbs+.
 
Yeah they come with speakers. Some people prefer all that hifi surround sound shit, but for my little spot, they do just fine.

To me, wall mounting is a waste of money unless you stay in a neighborhood where you're afraid somebody would break in and snatch it. Get a nice little tv stand and you good. Mine sits on a swivel stand and I'm always moving it depending on where I'm sitting. On the wall it's stuck in one spot, unless you pay for one of them ridiculous priced wall brackets that move off the wall.

> $500 for a TV stand? GTFOH

the avg "good" tv stand is 300 to 500 bucks....
 
Hey Duval how that bravia look with that ps3 or 360 m cop that 46 and 40 inch bravia next month
 
Do not mount an LCD/Plasma TV above a fireplace. Unless you never intend on lighting the fire. Smoke is very bad for these TV's and will degrade the TV, shortening it's Lifespan/usage.

If you mount it, use "cantilever" so you change the angle. It's said that rear projection and LCD is best viewed at eye level.

It has to be 1080P!

Be sure to inquire about the viewing distance before purchasing too large a TV.

Look for multiple HDMI ports. Get stuck with one and an HDAV selector can cost up to $199.

It DOES NOT have to be 1080P unless you are a gamer with an Xbox 360 or a PS3! No TV programs now or in the foreseeable future will be broadcast using this standard for many years to come due to the facts that it is expensive and uses up a lot of bandwith.

And just about all come with built-in speakers that usually are on the bottom and very well integrated so that you do not see them. Unless you plan on using an LCD projector I haven't seen any TVs yet that don't.

Bottom line is get what YOU like and what YOU can afford after all nobody else has to watch the TV but you! You'll see the differences in the store. My friend has a Panasonic 50 inch plasma that puts EVERY OTHER TV I've seen to shame!
 
unfortunately the answer won't help you. some have speakers, some don't.



this question can only be answered by you, and will largely depend upon your viewing area. is there a fixed viewing area? then the answer is stand, fixed, or tilt mount. is there limited floor space in the viewing room? then you have no room for the stand footprint, and wall mount is your only real option. will the display be in an area which is visible from other rooms? e.g. dining room living room combination, family room kitchen combo. then your solution would probably be a fully articulating wall mount.

peerless brand is reliable and has good prices.

good luck.


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So this is an example of my tv niche taken from my builder's website. It's under 40" across and about 43" inches high. The mantel is 60" across and about 7" inches deep.

So I was thinking of getting a TV that covers the niche because it sits about 44" deep. But then I don't know where I'd be putting the DVD player and HD Satellite receiver. And I see that most HDTV's are generally not even 36" high. So there would be a space over the tv which I'm not fond of having. So I figure a huge tv would cover it but it would overpower the room. Yeah, I know: WOMEN.

As for the fireplace, I really don't use it often but it's not a conventional one. It is sealed and has fake logs and uses gas. But it does get very hot when it is in use....incredibly hot actually. But if it does poes a problem, let me know. Then I'd nix the over the fireplace idea and use the wall that you see to the left which is about 58" wide.


And I didn't know these things were heavy. I always assumed they were lighter than tube tv's.

I know it seems silly but if I spend the money, I just want to know it will work.
 
does not have to be 1080p

years from now, sure, but not now

i would like to mount my tv on the wall too, but the distance of the outlets the work involved hiding the cables etc just isnt worth it

tv stand - your short changing your viewing experience if the tv is not eye level or slightly above eye level

my speakers attached to my tv are decent, nothing special, i just hooked up my on stage jbl ipod speakers and they sound pretty good. I plan to get real speakers just cant find anything decently priced that are small

definately get a warranty
 
Mounting depends on the surface. You better find a stud because sheet rock won't support 100lbs+.

well, sort of correct.

if you are concerned about weight/support, you can go the in-wall mount route, which consists of a shallow box frame being inserted into the wall, after which a mount is attached.
 
Yeah, I know: WOMEN.

relax. gender has no place in a discussion of aesthetics amongst property owners. it's your spot, and you know what you want it to look like.

I didn't know these things were heavy. I always assumed they were lighter than tube tv's.

they can be heavy, but the weight of a flat panel display is comparatively less than tube televisions.

for example, the 63" samsung 1080p plasma weighs 192 lbs. whereas a 36" sony tube television weighs something like 250 lbs.

also, placing any display near a heat source is a bad idea in general. depending upon the tech you decide upon, it will already be generating a good amount of heat that needs to dissipate. adding a heat source underneath it probably wouldn't be a good idea.

and for those just starting their shopping, remember to consider your atmospheric/environmental factors. some displays (typically plasma) have altitude limitations and temperatures restrictions for operation.
 
relax. gender has no place in a discussion of aesthetics amongst property owners. it's your spot, and you know what you want it to look like.



they can be heavy, but the weight of a flat panel display is comparatively less than tube televisions.

for example, the 63" samsung 1080p plasma weighs 192 lbs. whereas a 36" sony tube television weighs something like 250 lbs.

also, placing any display near a heat source is a bad idea in general. depending upon the tech you decide upon, it will already be generating a good amount of heat that needs to dissipate. adding a heat source underneath it probably wouldn't be a good idea.

and for those just starting their shopping, remember to consider your atmospheric/environmental factors. some displays (typically plasma) have altitude limitations and temperatures restrictions for operation.


Yea but my problem is. The cable hookup is in this niche section. But then does it matter, if I get a satellite receiver, where the television is?
 
Yea but my problem is. The cable hookup is in this niche section. But then does it matter, if I get a satellite receiver, where the television is?

your best bet is to put the tv in that original spot because you dont wanna hang the flat panel any where heat.
 
Which brand has the best HD TV's? I want to buy one but there's too many choices.:rolleyes: LCD,DLP,Plasma etc.
 
Which brand has the best HD TV's? I want to buy one but there's too many choices.:rolleyes: LCD,DLP,Plasma etc.

Actually Ive seen a lot of LCD's that I think look better than Plasma. Just my opinion though...as far as brands...I say Sony, Panasonic, Hitachi...pretty much all of the known companys have good tv's and lower level tv's that may not be as good in their line.
 
well, sort of correct.

if you are concerned about weight/support, you can go the in-wall mount route, which consists of a shallow box frame being inserted into the wall, after which a mount is attached.

That's a lot of work for a TV, and you still have to find studs. And reroute the wires through the wall or it'll look tacky. Just mount the bracket on a stud or better yet get a nice looking TV stand. It gives you greater flexibility and looks cleaner if you have stereo componants. Now, this is where type of TV comes in. Plasma is the answer here because it can be viewed from all angles. Also, pay no attention to people telling you not to get 1080p. True, most broadcast media is 720, but you want to use your TV as a monitor also. That way the movies you d/l you can just play through your TV and delete. Your monitor resolution is way higher than 720, thus you need the 1080.
 
HDTV Moves to the Next Level

A new video format, 1080p, offers stunning images. For consumers who want to be ahead of the game, it could be worth the investment


Judging by the questions I get from readers, the subject of digital and high-definition television is probably the most baffling issue in the world of consumer technology today. It's great that flat-panel displays are getting bigger, cheaper, and more mainstream. But confusion is actually mounting as consumers face yet another HD standard and a DVD format war.

The new kid on the HDTV block is something called 1080p. It combines the best features of the two earlier HD standards: 720p, which can handle rapid action on the screen, and 1080i, which boasts superior resolution. (For those who wish to understand the name: 1080 refers to the number of horizontal lines that make up the picture. The "p" stands for "progressive," the alternative being "i" for "interlaced." Both words are carryovers from picture-tube TVs. In practical terms, p means 60 frames per second, while i is a leisurely 30 frames.)

LIFELIKE LOOK. I've been enjoying a borrowed Sharp 65-inch Aquos LCD display, one of the first 1080p flat-screen models available. The images are stunning, which they should be, given the $20,999 price tag. I was also dazzled by a range of 1080p displays at January's Consumer Electronics Show, including LCDs, projection sets, and plasma screens, ranging in size up to an overwhelming 103-inch Panasonic (MC) prototype.

On displays smaller than about 40-inch, the difference between 720 lines and 1080 lines is all but invisible and not worth a premium of $500 or so. But on bigger screens, the higher resolution makes a real difference in how lifelike images look, especially when viewed from up close.

There is a big drawback to 1080p, however. At the moment, there is zero commercial programming available in the format, a situation that is not about to change very quickly. Sharp had to send me a hard-drive video recorder loaded with promotional content just to convey the sorts of images the big Aquos can deliver.

SORTING OUT THE SKIRMISHES. Without a breakthrough in compression, there won't be 1080p broadcasts. The format gobbles nearly 30 megabits of data per second, more bandwidth than any cable or satellite operator -- or broadcaster -- can provide.

The glory of 1080p will be in its ability to provide theater-quality images when showing movies on big screens. But that's where a nasty format war gets in the way. A conventional DVD doesn't have room for a whole HD movie, and the studios won't allow HD versions of movies to be released without much stronger antipiracy protection than the DVD's flimsy Content Scrambling System.

The answer is a blue-laser recording system, which can cram far more data onto a disc that's copy-protected with a powerful digital rights management system. Unfortunately, there are two competing solutions that don't work together: Blu-ray, backed by Sony (SNE) and most other consumer-electronics companies, and HD-DVD, supported by Toshiba, NEC (NIPNY), Microsoft (MSFT), and Intel (INTC). You can't play a Blu-ray disc on an HD-DVD player, or vice versa, and neither will play on a conventional DVD machine. (The new players will, however, show standard DVDs.)

GAMING BOOST. I suspect that very few consumers will be willing to plunk down $500 or more for a player that could well turn out to be the new Betamax. So far, the movie studios are hedging their format bets, so the market is likely to stay unsettled for some time.

The first real boost for 1080p displays should come this fall when Sony ships its PlayStation 3. I found that Xbox 360 games, which are limited to 720p, looked spectacular on the Aquos, and PS3's built-in 1080p output should be even better. The new game console will also include a Blu-ray DVD movie player, and by the time it ships, there should be at least a smattering of movie titles available.

If you want an HD display in the popular 30-inch to 42-inch range, 1080p isn't an essential feature. But if you are looking for something bigger, whether flat-panel or projection, the new format could be a good future-proofing investment.
 
That's a lot of work for a TV, and you still have to find studs. And reroute the wires through the wall or it'll look tacky. Just mount the bracket on a stud or better yet get a nice looking TV stand. It gives you greater flexibility and looks cleaner if you have stereo componants. Now, this is where type of TV comes in. Plasma is the answer here because it can be viewed from all angles. Also, pay no attention to people telling you not to get 1080p. True, most broadcast media is 720, but you want to use your TV as a monitor also. That way the movies you d/l you can just play through your TV and delete. Your monitor resolution is way higher than 720, thus you need the 1080.


Well I'm thinking LCD over Plasma. But it looks like I will just do the stand like most people suggested. Then I can just do a 42" or 46" depending on the cost.

I forgot about hooking up my laptop. That would be great for my parents when they come visit.

BJ's wholesale club has a 46" Bravia for 2200. I don't know the specs but will find out the next time I head out there.

Thanks for every one's advice.
 
It DOES NOT have to be 1080P unless you are a gamer with an Xbox 360 or a PS3! No TV programs now or in the foreseeable future will be broadcast using this standard for many years to come due to the facts that it is expensive and uses up a lot of bandwith.

True. I'm not a gamer, But I have the PS3, Xbox 360 and Wii. I purchased the PS3 for the Blu-ray and yes, there is a noticeable difference between 720 and 1080. I purchased 2 720 tv's and was more than pissed off when I noticed the difference in the Blu-ray video playback. When you make big purchases, you intend on keeping that item for some time. I stiffed myself to save a couple hundred, now I have to deal with it or just buy what I should have bought in the beginning.
 
man getting the stand will be ok, but like you said the cable is in the niche. now if you do get satellite you run into 2 situations a good dish installer that will run the wire through your walls and home and put an outlet near that wall for you. or a lazy installer that will just use your current cable wires and thus the jack to the sat receiver is in the niche.

also u need to consider if you have an electrical outlet on that wall

Now I will say the new Sony's got their game tight but also a good buy in LCDs are Samsungs (very comparable stats and lower price) however I would pick the Sony overall
 
man getting the stand will be ok, but like you said the cable is in the niche. now if you do get satellite you run into 2 situations a good dish installer that will run the wire through your walls and home and put an outlet near that wall for you. or a lazy installer that will just use your current cable wires and thus the jack to the sat receiver is in the niche.

also u need to consider if you have an electrical outlet on that wall

Now I will say the new Sony's got their game tight but also a good buy in LCDs are Samsungs (very comparable stats and lower price) however I would pick the Sony overall


I'm glad you mentioned it. There is an outlet but it's kind of on the side. I guess I should also research local satellite installers.

Thanks for that tidbit.
 
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