AHA! Governors push workers off unemployment by reopening early - workers who refuse to return to work will lose their CARES Act unemployment benefits

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tl:dr - With the restriction lifted, 100% of the cost for unemployment insurance now becomes the responsibility of the small business owner, which could break a business that's already bleeding cash. The state takes itself completely off of the hook for everything. :curse:
GOP Governors Will Push Workers off Unemployment by Reopening Early
The Department of Labor confirmed to VICE that workers who refuse to return to work out of a general fear for their safety will lose their CARES Act unemployment benefits.
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Republican governors in states like Georgia, Tennessee, and South Carolina have announced plans to begin reopening their states’ economies despite warnings by health officials that it’s too early to do so. The decisions mean that businesses may soon start calling people back into work before they feel safe, creating a coronavirus-specific dilemma: If people in those states are offered their jobs back, but refuse to take them out of fear for their safety, they will likely no longer qualify for unemployment benefits—even though they’re taking the same precautions as people one state over.

The Department of Labor’s website explicitly states that “voluntarily deciding to quit your job out of a general concern about exposure to COVID-19 does not make you eligible for [Pandemic Unemployment Assistance].” A Department of Labor spokesperson confirmed to VICE that employees cannot continue to collect pandemic unemployment insurance if they refuse to “return to work out of general safety concerns.” They also noted that “when an individual is no longer eligible for PUA, they are also no longer eligible for the additional $600 in benefits.”

Susan Houseman, vice president of the W. E. Upjohn Institute for Employment Research explained in an email that the requirement is “designed to mitigate abuse of the system.”

Because of the COVID-19 crisis, Congress has temporarily expanded who is able to access unemployment benefits. Under normal circumstances, Americans lose their unemployment insurance in most states if they are offered work but don’t take it. But under the CARES Act, the new Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA) program provides benefits access to groups including those who are diagnosed with or live with someone who has COVID-19, those who have come into direct contact with someone who tested positive and are told by a doctor to self-quarantine, and those with compromised immune systems.

The current situation will potentially place workers in prematurely reopening states in a life-threatening position. Public health officials are warning that it’s still too early to relax social distancing guidelines and doing so could lead to a resurgence of the virus, and many people might rightfully think it’s too soon and too risky to go back to work. Yet if people don’t fall under the specific guidelines outlined by PUA and refuse to return to their former employer, they might risk losing their unemployment benefits and receiving no income at all.

Anne Carder, managing attorney at the Atlanta Legal Aid Society, told VICE that while she doesn’t have a firm answer yet, she’s “99.99 percent sure” that people won’t be eligible for unemployment benefits in Georgia if their businesses reopen and offer them work, but they don’t want to return because of general fears of getting sick. And, when it comes to gray areas in a person’s unemployment case, it’s up to state unemployment offices to decide, and those in conservative states can be more stringent. While one could appeal a decision, that could take a long time right now, given that unemployment offices are already backed up.

Gary Burtless, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institute, said that state policies would differ on these questions.

"In some states I have little doubt the Unemployment Insurance agency will respect UI claimants’ assessment that the possibility of COVID-19 infection is a legitimate reason for workers to stay home, especially in the case of workers who have risk factors for COVID mortality (old age, diabetes, etc.). However, in other states, possibly including GA, TN & SC, I would expect UI agencies to be rather hard-nosed about UI claimants’ fears of contracting the COVID-19 coronavirus," Burtless wrote in an email.

That narrow interpretation of PUA guidelines could lead to states denying workers’ unemployment benefits, according to Michele Evermore, a senior policy analyst at the National Employment Law Project. Evermore pointed out that already, Georgia, South Carolina, and Tennessee all fall at the bottom of the list when it comes to the proportion of people who receive unemployment insurance.

Already, workers across the country are having trouble getting their benefits because state unemployment offices’ are unable to handle the influx of claims. Many have gone the entire pandemic without receiving any relief yet—and in many states, PUA has yet to kick in. Some people might go back to work not by choice, but because they have to get a paycheck right now to survive.

The businesses that are reopening are not clearly essential. For example, in Georgia, Governor Brian Kemp said that gyms, bowling alleys, and hair salons could reopen as early as Friday. There are a number of reasons why someone might think it’s not worthwhile to go back into these jobs and put their own health and the health of their loved ones in danger. But they might have to, or risk not getting any unemployment benefits at all.


---ETA---
Minnesota and Mississippi are the latest to reopen their battered economies despite health experts warning that lifting coronavirus restrictions may spark new surge
  • Minnesota and Mississippi have announced that some businesses can reopen from Monday
  • Those two states join Colorado, Montana and Tennessee in announcing plans to lift restrictions
  • Georgia, Oklahoma, Alaska and South Carolina previously restarted their economies following weeks of mandatory lockdowns that have thrown millions of American workers out of their jobs
  • Business shutdowns have led to a record 26.5 million filing for unemployment benefits since mid-March
  • It comes as the death toll from the coronavirus rose to 55,000 and infections neared one million
  • Public health authorities have warned that increasing human interactions and economic activity may spark a new surge of infections
 
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Dear Decaturish – Governor’s decision to reopen businesses is political murder

Dear Decaturish,


You really want to know what I think about the governor’s decision to reopen many businesses closed by COVID-19?

It’s about making sure people can’t file unemployment. It isn’t about saving lives, certainly. It’s not about the peak of the curve. I think lots of people are going to ignore the governor and stay home regardless. This isn’t a decision being driven by epidemiology. It’s the rawest and most lethal of political decisions, and it will kill people.

Kemp is looking forward to the fiscal discussion in 2021 and 2022, when all of this really starts to hit. He got elected by out-yahooing the field. His base has been trained to view government spending as a crime, and he knows that he becomes politically vulnerable to an attack if he raises taxes. He is not capable of delivering a nuanced message around necessity, because his base doesn’t know how to hear it.

The state is staring at one million unemployment applications. It probably cannot pay those over six months. The unemployment fund has a reserve of about $2.6 billion. Last week it paid out about $42 million — which is about three times as much as it usually does. That figure will double in two weeks, give or take. Maybe more.

At that rate, the fund is empty in about 28 weeks. Probably less. Even if things improve later, that fund will run dry in a year, because unemployment isn’t going to return to 5 percent for a long time.

Georgians did the Kansas thing a couple of years ago and instituted a hard constitutional limit on income taxes of 6 percent. It cannot go higher without amending the state constitution. What that means is that there’s no easy mechanism for the state to accommodate an extraordinary expense, like this, without somehow telling Republican reactionaries that they must raise taxes.

Those reactionaries are the ones who will be protesting in front of the statehouse Friday when businesses start to reopen.

If there’s no state order calling for businesses to be closed, the people who are unemployed can no longer claim that their unemployment is involuntary, even if it would be utter idiocy for them to return to work. A hairdresser or a massage therapist cannot maintain social distance. But they can certainly file for relief … unless the law says they can work.

“Gyms, fitness centers, bowling alleys, body art studios, barbers, cosmetologists, hair designers, nail care artists, estheticians, their respective schools & massage therapists.”

Not banks. Not software firms. Not factories. Not schools.

It is no coincidence that the businesses on this list are staffed by relatively poor people. Because that’s who he wants off the unemployment rolls. And if they die … well, they’re mostly black people, or Asian, and poor, and an acceptable political loss for a Republican governor.

The purpose of this isn’t to open up these businesses. It’s to get the workers there off the dole. Work, and die. Or don’t work … but you’re on your own. Because we can’t raise taxes to cover the time you spent trying to save your life and the lives of the people around you.


– George Chidi
George Chidi is a political columnist and public policy advocate
 
shocking? You couldn't possibly have thought that a pandemic would make a GOP politician care more about you than their bottom line. Did you forget his campaign. It'ls also in line with his rural - first strategy. You know where Kemp was Friday and probably today - survey storm damage in South GA
 
tl:dr - With the restriction lifted, 100% of the cost for unemployment insurance now becomes the responsibility of the small business owner, which could break a business that's already bleeding cash. The state takes itself completely off of the hook for everything. :curse:
GOP Governors Will Push Workers off Unemployment by Reopening Early
The Department of Labor confirmed to VICE that workers who refuse to return to work out of a general fear for their safety will lose their CARES Act unemployment benefits.
.


Republican governors in states like Georgia, Tennessee, and South Carolina have announced plans to begin reopening their states’ economies despite warnings by health officials that it’s too early to do so. The decisions mean that businesses may soon start calling people back into work before they feel safe, creating a coronavirus-specific dilemma: If people in those states are offered their jobs back, but refuse to take them out of fear for their safety, they will likely no longer qualify for unemployment benefits—even though they’re taking the same precautions as people one state over.

The Department of Labor’s website explicitly states that “voluntarily deciding to quit your job out of a general concern about exposure to COVID-19 does not make you eligible for [Pandemic Unemployment Assistance].” A Department of Labor spokesperson confirmed to VICE that employees cannot continue to collect pandemic unemployment insurance if they refuse to “return to work out of general safety concerns.” They also noted that “when an individual is no longer eligible for PUA, they are also no longer eligible for the additional $600 in benefits.”

Susan Houseman, vice president of the W. E. Upjohn Institute for Employment Research explained in an email that the requirement is “designed to mitigate abuse of the system.”

Because of the COVID-19 crisis, Congress has temporarily expanded who is able to access unemployment benefits. Under normal circumstances, Americans lose their unemployment insurance in most states if they are offered work but don’t take it. But under the CARES Act, the new Pandemic Unemployment Assistance (PUA) program provides benefits access to groups including those who are diagnosed with or live with someone who has COVID-19, those who have come into direct contact with someone who tested positive and are told by a doctor to self-quarantine, and those with compromised immune systems.

The current situation will potentially place workers in prematurely reopening states in a life-threatening position. Public health officials are warning that it’s still too early to relax social distancing guidelines and doing so could lead to a resurgence of the virus, and many people might rightfully think it’s too soon and too risky to go back to work. Yet if people don’t fall under the specific guidelines outlined by PUA and refuse to return to their former employer, they might risk losing their unemployment benefits and receiving no income at all.

Anne Carder, managing attorney at the Atlanta Legal Aid Society, told VICE that while she doesn’t have a firm answer yet, she’s “99.99 percent sure” that people won’t be eligible for unemployment benefits in Georgia if their businesses reopen and offer them work, but they don’t want to return because of general fears of getting sick. And, when it comes to gray areas in a person’s unemployment case, it’s up to state unemployment offices to decide, and those in conservative states can be more stringent. While one could appeal a decision, that could take a long time right now, given that unemployment offices are already backed up.

Gary Burtless, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institute, said that state policies would differ on these questions.

"In some states I have little doubt the Unemployment Insurance agency will respect UI claimants’ assessment that the possibility of COVID-19 infection is a legitimate reason for workers to stay home, especially in the case of workers who have risk factors for COVID mortality (old age, diabetes, etc.). However, in other states, possibly including GA, TN & SC, I would expect UI agencies to be rather hard-nosed about UI claimants’ fears of contracting the COVID-19 coronavirus," Burtless wrote in an email.

That narrow interpretation of PUA guidelines could lead to states denying workers’ unemployment benefits, according to Michele Evermore, a senior policy analyst at the National Employment Law Project. Evermore pointed out that already, Georgia, South Carolina, and Tennessee all fall at the bottom of the list when it comes to the proportion of people who receive unemployment insurance.

Already, workers across the country are having trouble getting their benefits because state unemployment offices’ are unable to handle the influx of claims. Many have gone the entire pandemic without receiving any relief yet—and in many states, PUA has yet to kick in. Some people might go back to work not by choice, but because they have to get a paycheck right now to survive.

The businesses that are reopening are not clearly essential. For example, in Georgia, Governor Brian Kemp said that gyms, bowling alleys, and hair salons could reopen as early as Friday. There are a number of reasons why someone might think it’s not worthwhile to go back into these jobs and put their own health and the health of their loved ones in danger. But they might have to, or risk not getting any unemployment benefits at all.


---ETA---
Minnesota and Mississippi are the latest to reopen their battered economies despite health experts warning that lifting coronavirus restrictions may spark new surge
  • Minnesota and Mississippi have announced that some businesses can reopen from Monday
  • Those two states join Colorado, Montana and Tennessee in announcing plans to lift restrictions
  • Georgia, Oklahoma, Alaska and South Carolina previously restarted their economies following weeks of mandatory lockdowns that have thrown millions of American workers out of their jobs
  • Business shutdowns have led to a record 26.5 million filing for unemployment benefits since mid-March
  • It comes as the death toll from the coronavirus rose to 55,000 and infections neared one million
  • Public health authorities have warned that increasing human interactions and economic activity may spark a new surge of infections

There was a woman who pointed that shit out immediately when Kemp moved to reopen Georgia. I think that she was a restauranteur.
That put's the burdens on the business owners as opposed to the workers collecting unemployment from State coffers.
 
Covid-19 wins. In a week or 2.....there will be twice as many cases as there are now.
100k more deaths by the end of August. Another shutdown looming. MAGA!
 
they have to get folks back to work even faster NOW....

they dont want to sponsor protesting by giving everyone

free time and money...

they know they could cut protesting in half by rushing folks back to work...

they were highly considering it anyway for economical reasons..

but with the protesting.. its inevitable that folks go back to work..


NOW if folks start getting sick and dying and them covid number REALLY start to shoot up...

its going to get really interesting......
 
Cant have poor getting a livable wage!!! Get back to that 9.50 an hour and struggle like you been doing!!! :smh:


If people were paid a real livable wage they wouldn't be dependant.employers want their employees to be dependant.they can treat certain folks how they want knowing they ain't going anywhere.

Till they show up at work and start bussin shots at everybody who ever pissed them off.
 
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