African American Ethnic Heritage: Where in Africa are African Americans from?

[Joe Money]

Strictly for those who are interested in real history and scholarship.

African American Ethnic Heritage
Where in Africa are African Americans from?

The vast majority of Africans in bondage were imported to North America from seven general regions of Africa. The list below includes the region name, estimated percentage of Africans from each region, and location description based on current day national borders:

Senegambia (15%)
The Senagambian Coast is highlighted in green. The arrows show the slave trading patterns between kingdoms leading to the coast.

City of Timbuktu of the ancient Mali Empire

Senegambia
(green) (present day coast between Senegal and Gambia) – Senegambia includes that stretch of coast encompassing the present day nations of Senegal and Gambia. An estimated 61,500 or 15% of the total Africans that came to the United States. Captives from as far away as the upper and middle Niger valleys (present day Niger and Mali) were transported from this coast. Senegambia represented approximately 15% of All African captives transported to North America including: 17 to 19% of the captives sold in South Carolina/Georgia, 15% that were sold in Virginia, and possibly 65% of those sold in Louisiana.

Pre-colonial kingdoms of Senegambia include:
Tichitt-Walata Civilization (2000 BC- 500 BC)
Ghana Empire (300-1200 CE)
Mali Empire (1235-1600 CE)
Songhai Empire (1464-1591 CE)
Mossi Kingdoms (11th century–1896 CE)
Jolof/Wolof Empire (1350-1889 CE)
Kingdom of Sine (14th-19th century CE)
Empire of Great Fulo (1490-1776 CE)
Kingdom of Saloum (1494-1969 CE)
Kaabu Empire (1537-1867 CE)
Kingdom of Cayor (1549-1879 CE)
Kingdom of Baol (1555-1874 CE)

Ethnic groups in Senegambia include:
The Mande ethnic branch known as Malinke/Mandinko/Mandingo and the non-Mende Wolof were mainly coastal populations. Further inland were other Mande ethnic groups such as the Sereer, Fulbe/Fulani/Fula, Soninke/Serrakole from the central and upper valleys of the Senegal River. Also the Mande groups of the Bambara and the Fulbe located even further inland in what is now Mali in the floodplain of the upper Niger river.

Windward Coast (16%)

The Winward Coast is highlighted in grey. The arrows show the slave trading patterns between kingdoms leading to the coast.
Windward Coast includes the territory from the Casamance to Assini, or what is now Guinea–Bissau, Guinea, Sierra Leone, Liberia, and the Ivory Coast. Winward Coast represented approximately 16% or 65,600 of All African captives transported to North America including: 16 percent who went to South Carolina/Georgia and 12% of captives sent to Virginia.

Ethnic groups in the Winward Coast include:
Mande ethnic groups included the Malinke/Mandinko/Mandingo, Susu, Jallonke/Yalunka, Loko, Koranko, Vai, and Kono. The closely related non-Mande were groups were Temne, Landuma, Bulom, Sherbro , and Krim. Other non Mende groups included the Kissi, Gola, Baga, and Limba. And further inland the Fulbe/Fulani/Fula and Jallonke were also in this region.

Gold Coast (13%)

The Gold Coast is highlighted in yellow. The arrows show the slave trading patterns between kingdoms leading to the coast.

Ashanti Palace as depicted in 1819

Gold Coast
Adjoining Sierra Leone is the Gold Coast, occupying what is essentially contemporary Ghana. African captives from the Gold Coast represent approximately 13% or 53,000 of all African captives sold in North America including: 13% of captives sold in South Carolina, and 16% of captives sold in Virginia.

Pre-colonial kingdoms in the Gold Coast include:
Kingdom of Dagbon (1409- Ce?)
Mamprussi (16th century CE – ?)
Ashanti Empire (1701–1894 CE)
Kong Empire (1710–1894 CE)

Ethnic groups in the Gold Coast include:
The southern half of the Gold Coast was dominated by the Akan ethic groups which include: Asante/Ashanti, Akuapem and Akyem (together known as Twi), Agona, Kwahu, Wassa, Fante (Fanti or Mfantse: Anomabo, Abura, Gomua) and Bono. Subgroups of the Bia-speaking groups include: the Anyin, Baoulé, Chakosi (Anufo), Sefwi (Sehwi), Nzema, Ahanta and Jwira-Pepesa. The Akan subgroups have cultural attributes in common, notably the tracing of descent, inheritance of property, and succession to high political office.

Bight of Benin (5%)

Further east the fourth region, the Bight of Benin, consists of what is now the nations of Togo, Benin, and southwestern Nigeria. African captives from the Bight of Benin represent approximately 5% or 20,500 of all African captives transported to North America including: 30% of the captives sold in Louisiana but not in significant numbers to other American ports.

Shows a number of features in Benin City: in the background the house of the queens; on the left , the royal courtyard, containing several palaces, showing their spires . The king is depicted in the center mounted on a horse with his mounted nobles in procession on the right. The king is surrounded by dwarfs, and leading the procession on the left are the musicians who are also holding the royal tigers.

Pre-colonial kingdoms of the Bight of Benin include:

Nok Culture (1,000 BC–300 CE)
Benin Empire (1180 CE–1897 CE)
Bonoman (11th–19th century CE)
Oyo Empire (1400–1895 CE)
Kingdom of Dahomey (1600–1900 CE)

Ethnic groups in Bight of Benin include:
of the Yoruba in present day Southwestern and North central Nigeria as well as Southern and Central Benin known as the Yorubaland , the Ewe who are concentrated in present day Togo, southeastern Ghana, and The Fon of Dahomey (present day Benin).

Bight of Biafra (24%)

Bight of Biafra (24%)
The Bight of Biafra is comprised contemporary southeastern Nigeria, Cameroon, and Gabon. African captives from the Bight of Biafra represent approximately 24% or 98,400 of All African Captives sold in North America including: 37%-40% of Africans sold in Virginia, 9% sold in Louisiana. and 2% sold in South Carolina/Georgia.

Pre-colonial kingdoms in Bight of Biafra include:
Sao Civilization (6th century BCE-16th century CE)
Kanem Empire (c. 700–1376)
Kingdom of Nri (948–1911 CE)
Bornu Empire (1380-1893 CE)
Sultanate of Bagirmi (1522-1897 CE)
Aro Confederacy (1690-1902 CE)

Ethnic groups in Bight of Biafra include:
The Bight of Biafra contained a number of ethnic groups, including the Igbo, the Ibibio, the Igala, the Efik, the Ijo, the Ogoni, and groups to become involved in the slave trade were the Aro, Of these ethnicities, around 75 percent of the captives from Biafra came from the Igbo-Ibibio area. famous bronzes of Benin and Ife, created no later than the tenth century C.E., are also associated with Igbo-Ukwu.

Congo/ Angola (26%)

Congo/ Angola
(brown) Represents 106,600 or 26% of the African captives brought to North America/United States. (from present day Congo, Zaire, Angola, Namibia)

African captives from the West Central Africa (from present day Congo, Zaire, Angola, Namibia) represent approximately 40% of Africans sold in South Carolina, 16% – 17% sold in Virginia, and anywhere from 5% – 36% sold in Louisiana. Also more than 90% of those who came from West Central Africa to Louisiana were from Congo, whereas less than 10% percent were from Angola.

City of Louango the capital of the Kingdom of Kongo

Pre-colonial kingdoms in West Central Africa include:
Kingdom of Kongo (1400–1888 CE)
Kingdom of Ndongo (16th century-? CE)
Kingdom of Loango (1550- 1883 CE)
Kingdom of Matamba (1631-1744 CE)

Ethnic groups in West Central Africa include:
The Kongo/Bakongo/Kikongo speakers, founders of the kingdom of Kongo, include subgroups such as the Sundi, Bwende, Kamba, and Dondo, who can be further divided into the Mpangu, Ladi, Bembu, Kunyi, Yombe, Lumbu, Bussi, Puno, and Tsangui. Other ethnic groups in West Central Africa include the Bushoong, Ngunde, Pyaang, Bulaang, Bieeng, Ilebo, Idiing, Kaam, Ngongo, Kayuweeng, Kel, Shoowa, Bokila, Ngoombe, Maluk, Kete, Coofa, Cwa, Mbeengi, Leele, and the southern Mongo.

Mozambique–Madagascar (2%)
Mozambique–Madagascar, refers to the southern most region of the Swahili coast on the Indian Ocean in southeastern Africa. Captives from this region may have constituted only 2% of all African captives transported to North America including about 4% of Africans sold in Virginia.

ARRIVAL IN NORTH AMERICA
African captives landed at just three regions in North America indicated on the above map of the United States (left).

(22) Georgia/ South Carolina

Over half – 234,000 or 52% – landed in Charleston, South Carolina which was the largest slave port on the North American shore. About 45% of the African captives who landed at this port were from the Congo/Angola region which were widely available in the Americas. About 20% came from the Senegambia region where many were originally rice farmers and therefore sought after for rice plantations eventuality becoming the Gullah people of the Georgia/ South Carolina coast.

Generally plantation owners from Georgia and South Carolina refused African captives from the Bight of Biafra who were largely from the Igbo ethnic group and descendants of the Nri Kingdom. It was believed that Igbos were more likely to revolt and commit suicide rather than be slaves because they had a tradition that valued freedom. Estimates of captives brought to Georgia/ South Carolina from each region:

• 45% from Congo/ Angola
• 20% Senegambia
• 18% Windward Coast
• 15% Gold Coast
• 2% Bight of Biafra

(23) Virginia/ Maryland

In direct contrast to Georgia and South Carolina, ships that supplied captives to Virginia and Maryland got the largest percentage (36%) of African captives from the Bight of Biafra. Estimates of captives brought to Virginia/ Maryland from each region:

• 36% Bight of Biafra
• 17% Congo/ Angola
• 15% from Senegambia
• 12% Windward Coast
• 16% Gold Coast
• 5% Bight of Benin

(24) Southern Louisiana

The French who controlled Louisiana imported a higher percent from Senegambia and Bight of Benin before the the United States obtained the land via the Louisiana purchase in 1803. Black New Orleans reflects some of the culture of the Yoruba ethnic group who are decedents of the Oyo Empire and Dahomey Kingdom near the Bight of Benin. Estimates into Louisiana from each region:

• 35% from Congo/ Angola
• 20% Senegambia
• 20% Bight of Benin
• 10% Windward Coast
• 10% Bight of Biafra
• 5% Gold Coast

African captives from the Gold Coast who were largely ethnic Akan people from the Asante Empire and nearby Akan states were preferred by all slave holders. However they were not as available as Congo/ Angola captives. Akan people came from societies who practiced a strict adherence to a hierarchical power structure. Many plantation owners believed this made them less likely to revolt.

The Trans-Atlantic Slave trade was officially outlawed in 1807 although some ships sailed illegally for many years after. In the year 1700 more than half (58%) of North America slaves were born in Africa but by 1820 more than 88% of slaves had been born in America. Slaves were forcibly encouraged not to pass on their African culture and identity which helped to solidify the notion of African Americans as a slave class. The African American population in 1820 was 1.7 million, 1.5 million of which were slaves.

Source: the above is a modified excerpt from our Black history power study: 4,000 Years of African American History in one Post.

African American Ethnic Heritage - BlackDemographics.com

African American Ethnic Heritage Where in Africa are African Americans from? The vast majority of Africans in bondage were imported to North America from seven general regions of Africa. The list below includes the region name, estimated percentage of Africans from each region, and location...

blackdemographics.com

 

[xfactor]

Where are the statistics for the amount of so-called blacks that migrated from Europe?

As well as all the free, so-called blacks that were never slaves, already settled in the North and South America?

 

[Joe Money]

Where are the statistics for the amount of so-called blacks that migrated from Europe?

As well as all the free, so-called blacks that were never slaves, already settled in the North and South America?

Both are negligible. Those who are big believers in either are the ones who should be producing those stats and the supporting evidence.

 

[three-fifths]

the american negro will NEVER know his true african heritage.

the white man destroyed the black man's original name, language, identity, memory and cultural roots.

the american negro will NEVER know his ACTUAL mother, father or siblings.

for the past 500 years, these modern individuals whom the american negro call parents and siblings are only pseudo proxies.

the white man's crimes against us go well beyond captivity/enslavement.

yet, the stupid, ignorant, brainwashed and white-minded negro's only desire is to fear, love and marry the white two-legged dog.

 

[ORIGINAL NATION]

Different parts

 

[Joe Money]

the american negro will NEVER know his true african heritage.

the white man destroyed the black man's original name, language, identity, memory and cultural roots.

the american negro will NEVER know his ACTUAL mother, father or siblings.

for the past 500 years, these modern individuals whom the american negro call parents and siblings are only pseudo proxies.

the white man's crimes against us go well beyond captivity/enslavement.

yet, the stupid, ignorant, brainwashed and white-minded negro's only desire is to fear, love and marry the white two-legged dog.

Different parts

 

[xfactor]

Both are negligible. Those who are big believers in either are the ones who should be producing those stats and the supporting evidence.

Already been produced and displayed, going back much further, all the way to the beginning of the current civilization that was started after the great flood.

But there is a large contingent of us that tend to dismiss truth and fact which is a shame, even recent history and only believe it if the white man says it, which are what the pro-whites (calling themselves pro-black) are all about.

 

[Joe Money]

Already been produced and displayed, going back much further, all the way to the beginning of the current civilization that was started after the great flood.

Then point me to this information.

 

[hardawayz16]

Props

 

[ORIGINAL NATION]

That is true. Same with the builders of the pyramids even though it was us during a different state of being ourselves.
Right now I am trying to sell iron on Africa red black and green patches. And promote my pamphlets.
A lot of the products we buy in stores like Walmart are actually produced by klan and other white supremacy organizations. Same with doctors and other professionals.
Elijah Muhammad said at one time the whole earth was called Asia. Who is God? Answer the Asiatic black man

 

[WorldEX]

Good Stuff.

 

[Mello Mello]

See the way I understood our arrival it wasn’t directly to the states according to Henry Louis Gates Jr most the slaves arrived at Brazil and the Caribbean colonies first and from there were dropped in the American colonies.

 

[rude_dog]

Thank you.

I'm glad I have so many others on ignore.

 

[KingTaharqa]

See the way I understood our arrival it wasn’t directly to the states according to Henry Louis Gates Jr most the slaves arrived at Brazil and the Caribbean colonies first and from there were dropped in the American colonies.

You started to see more of that when the slave trade started to be banned in certain places, so there were work arounds. It was easier to get slaves from the Caribbean then all the way from Africa. The island of Bermuda for example because of its close proximity used to do slave trading directly with the state of South Carolina.

 

[rude_dog]

See the way I understood our arrival it wasn’t directly to the states according to Henry Louis Gates Jr most the slaves arrived at Brazil and the Caribbean colonies first and from there were dropped in the American colonies.

I don't believe that's the way it went for most. I think it may be that most slaves were sent to the Caribbean and Brazil because they banned the importation after the US. The founding father halted the importation of slaves in 1808 but the slave trade remained within the borders of the US. Slaves originally went to the Caribbean for the sugar trade but later they came directly to the US. South Carolina was full of sons of wealthy plantation owners from the West Indies who helped spread slavery in the 1700's. After the Haitian Revolt, many fled to Louisiana.

 

[Famous1]

the american negro will NEVER know his true african heritage.

the white man destroyed the black man's original name, language, identity, memory and cultural roots.

the american negro will NEVER know his ACTUAL mother, father or siblings.

for the past 500 years, these modern individuals whom the american negro call parents and siblings are only pseudo proxies.

the white man's crimes against us go well beyond captivity/enslavement.

yet, the stupid, ignorant, brainwashed and white-minded negro's only desire is to fear, love and marry the white two-legged dog.

fuck you nigga... i know who my mom, dad and siblings are......`speak for yourself.
oh wait.... "are you speaking metaphorically"?..... if so, carry on...

 

[Soul On Ice]

Great info as always @VAiz4hustlaz

 

[trstar]

It would be of further knowledge to focus on African dna mapping

 

[exiledking]

Great thread. Depends on when whatever side of families came from, but by now theres been plenty of mixing, and I don't mean with white people. Congolese with igbo, with yoruba, with bini, with Fulani, etc..... So now we are a NEW thing, and in some.cases, older than come.of the groups in Africa. And.rhe richest. And.rhe dumbest at the same time lol

 

[lazarus]

thats not far back enough because our people also resided in the middle east.

where is the research for those that went to south america and carribbean?

 

[exiledking]

thats not far back enough because our people also resided in the middle east.

where is the research for those that went to south america and carribbean?

What people resided in the middle East? That's for the people on West afrcan to figure out , but there have been populations in some parts of West Africa even during the time of ancient Egypt. So yes, while ancient Egyptians were there, chances are, your ancestors (and mine) were not. And what difference would that make? Oh I forget, y'all still wanna be from Egypt cuz west africa don't got pyramids that white people Fawn over.

And the people in South America and the Caribbean come from the same as us. You didn't know that? Many of the US southern states bought Slaves FROM the islands. Although Carolina from Barbados, new Orleans from Haiti, and Virgina from- I dunno.


In Brazil-- at first it was Congolese, and truthfully, most of them would work to literal death. In the later waves of forced migration, there was a population that lived and reproduced. Then others came from all the different areas, depending on what wars or conflicts were happening at the time. Clearly the last major wave was yorubas , evidenced by the presence of their spiritual system heavily represented in condomble. The yoruba language is also the liturgical language. Some of them either adopted Islam there , or they come from the northern parts of yoruba land, where Islam.took over before then left. A group of them Reed and got sent back to Lagos. Same for Cuba and the DR. kongolese is also heavily present in condomble, Santeria, Particularly angolan. The name Condomble is angolan. Vodun is heavily from the kingdom of Dahomey, which is called Benin now.

Heavy Ghanain influence in Jamaica, particulay from Ashanti. Guyana has the Fante. This is because Asante was allied with the Dutch, and battling the Fante. Dante were allied with the English and battling the Dutch. When Asante won, they would send Fante to the Dutch colonies, and when Fabte won, they would send Asante to English colonies. Of you check Asante Fante conflicts, they occured in the late 18th century, early 19th, up until the English colonized and put a stop to the slave trade.

 

[exiledking]

It would be of further knowledge to focus on African dna mapping

It's done with all of that. DNA, paperwork, art, culture, language transferrance. Stories , oral history, and traditions. There's tons of research already done.

 

[exiledking]

the american negro will NEVER know his true african heritage.

the white man destroyed the black man's original name, language, identity, memory and cultural roots.

the american negro will NEVER know his ACTUAL mother, father or siblings.

for the past 500 years, these modern individuals whom the american negro call parents and siblings are only pseudo proxies.

the white man's crimes against us go well beyond captivity/enslavement.

yet, the stupid, ignorant, brainwashed and white-minded negro's only desire is to fear, love and marry the white two-legged dog.

There no such thing as "true African heritage". Africa is diverse as fuck, and culture constantly evolves and changes anyway. No one in West Africa sits around trying to figure out how they're linked to Lucy in Ethiopia. When an ethnogenesis occurs, people bind to whatever origin myth, and build a story right then and there. Every ethnic group on the planet you ever heard of STARTED from somewhere. It didn't matter to then if they knew what they started from once they started. That's what ya call SELF DETERMINATION. Kujichagulia on Swahili , if ya wanna be all African about it. Now get to work like your ancestors that built Howard, Tuskegee, and Fisk with their bare hands , DURING actual Jim Crow.

 

[cashwhisperer]

Keep it polite gents.

 

[Joe Money]

It would be of further knowledge to focus on African dna mapping

This website has a lot of info relevant to that:https://tracingafricanroots.com/

Great thread. Depends on when whatever side of families came from, but by now theres been plenty of mixing, and I don't mean with white people. Congolese with igbo, with yoruba, with bini, with Fulani, etc..... So now we are a NEW thing, and in some.cases, older than come.of the groups in Africa. And.rhe richest. And.rhe dumbest at the same time lol

Older than some of the groups in Africa? How so?
And richest? How are you measuring? By income or GDP or net worth or what?

And dumbest? I’ll leave that alone as a troll statement.

thats not far back enough because our people also resided in the middle east.

where is the research for those that went to south america and carribbean?

Feel free to research and post that information when you find it. I am concentrating on my nation for now.

 

[Joe Money]

There no such thing as "true African heritage". Africa is diverse as fuck, and culture constantly evolves and changes anyway. No one in West Africa sits around trying to figure out how they're linked to Lucy in Ethiopia. When an ethnogenesis occurs, people bind to whatever origin myth, and build a story right then and there. Every ethnic group on the planet you ever heard of STARTED from somewhere. It didn't matter to then if they knew what they started from once they started. That's what ya call SELF DETERMINATION. Kujichagulia on Swahili , if ya wanna be all African about it. Now get to work like your ancestors that built Howard, Tuskegee, and Fisk with their bare hands , DURING actual Jim Crow.

And with white philanthropy.

 

[geechiedan]

There no such thing as "true African heritage". Africa is diverse as fuck, and culture constantly evolves and changes anyway. No one in West Africa sits around trying to figure out how they're linked to Lucy in Ethiopia. When an ethnogenesis occurs, people bind to whatever origin myth, and build a story right then and there. Every ethnic group on the planet you ever heard of STARTED from somewhere. It didn't matter to then if they knew what they started from once they started. That's what ya call SELF DETERMINATION. Kujichagulia on Swahili , if ya wanna be all African about it. Now get to work like your ancestors that built Howard, Tuskegee, and Fisk with their bare hands , DURING actual Jim Crow.

If I get what you're saying its... it's not where you're from its where you're at...

But here's the problem with that in the case of the Black American...

Because most of us don't know the particulars of our African heritage beyond the most general knowledge of you came from this continent (hence the generalized term AFRICAN-American rather than say Nigerian-American or Ghanian-American and you can break it down even further from there) therefore we're stuck with a skin color designation of black..and we've been building a culture and heritage from that.

Unlike pretty much any other group in American society you have one group that's been completely cut off from its original heritage and MAYBE that's why the n-word flows so easily from the descendants of the African slaves because that's what we've been called more than anything else in this country..its a part of our AMERICAN history.

If THIS is our origin story (slavery) then I liken that origin to a child who was born from rape and raised in an abusive household. That's why there can never be true solidarity among Americans in this society because BLACK AMERICANS are the product of rape and abuse.

They say that slavery is the scar on America..that's not true...slavery was the open wound... BLACK AMERICANS are the scar...the scar is the repair..the healed over skin..but a scar is also a reminder of the injury. As long as the Descendents Of American Slavery are called BLACK and not the original countries/ethnicities of origin...then we're always going to be a reminder of the injury..the open wound.

I frankly don't know if we as Black American can ever be made whole even if we could trace those origins...the connection to those countries and peoples have been broken for generations. To the point where many Black Americans reject Africa completely. Unlike every other ethnic group in this country, we are truly untethered from the cultures and histories of our peoples of origins. That's a hole in our collective souls that we've been trying to fill for a long time now.

 

[lazarus]

What people resided in the middle East? That's for the people on West afrcan to figure out , but there have been populations in some parts of West Africa even during the time of ancient Egypt. So yes, while ancient Egyptians were there, chances are, your ancestors (and mine) were not. And what difference would that make? Oh I forget, y'all still wanna be from Egypt cuz west africa don't got pyramids that white people Fawn over.

And the people in South America and the Caribbean come from the same as us. You didn't know that? Many of the US southern states bought Slaves FROM the islands. Although Carolina from Barbados, new Orleans from Haiti, and Virgina from- I dunno.


In Brazil-- at first it was Congolese, and truthfully, most of them would work to literal death. In the later waves of forced migration, there was a population that lived and reproduced. Then others came from all the different areas, depending on what wars or conflicts were happening at the time. Clearly the last major wave was yorubas , evidenced by the presence of their spiritual system heavily represented in condomble. The yoruba language is also the liturgical language. Some of them either adopted Islam there , or they come from the northern parts of yoruba land, where Islam.took over before then left. A group of them Reed and got sent back to Lagos. Same for Cuba and the DR. kongolese is also heavily present in condomble, Santeria, Particularly angolan. The name Condomble is angolan. Vodun is heavily from the kingdom of Dahomey, which is called Benin now.

Heavy Ghanain influence in Jamaica, particulay from Ashanti. Guyana has the Fante. This is because Asante was allied with the Dutch, and battling the Fante. Dante were allied with the English and battling the Dutch. When Asante won, they would send Fante to the Dutch colonies, and when Fabte won, they would send Asante to English colonies. Of you check Asante Fante conflicts, they occured in the late 18th century, early 19th, up until the English colonized and put a stop to the slave trade.

did i even mention about wanting to be from egypt? the fuck? we resided in jordan and other areas of middle east. family history did not just begin on western coast of africa. thats a mind game to think our only existence was in africa.

i wanted to know what regions did the carribbean and south american came from, just a similar breakdown. too many black americans think slavery started and ended in america when they have their bloodline across the globe.
you did provide some good info though. thanks.

 

[CPT Callamity]

Great thread.

 

[Shaka54]

Bookmarked!

 

[zod16]

Nice post. Never let these cacs try to rewrite this period of history.

 

[geechiedan]

Nice post. Never let these cacs try to rewrite this period of history.

American History 101 - People are tired of slave stories BUT let's talk about the ones that ESCAPED!

The slave breeding debate got me curious so I looked up the oldest newspapers to find any evidence and ran across advertisements for indentured servants and slaves both black and white mostly Irish, Scottish and Welsh. Here's your proof they were the first ******* in the colonies. Very...

www.bgol.us

 

[exiledking]

did i even mention about wanting to be from egypt? the fuck? we resided in jordan and other areas of middle east. family history did not just begin on western coast of africa. thats a mind game to think our only existence was in africa.

i wanted to know what regions did the carribbean and south american came from, just a similar breakdown. too many black americans think slavery started and ended in america when they have their bloodline across the globe.
you did provide some good info though. thanks.

Lol so what was in Jordan ? And what "other areas"? I'm not saying anything "originated" in.west Africa. We're clear that the oldest human remains are in East Africa, but those fossils are 200k years old. And 200k years ago, there were no known civilizations. I mention Sgyot because that's the place that had writing , architecture, artwork, that people revere worldwide. AT THE SAME TIME, the peoples in West Africa existed as well, and it's possible-- highly LIKELY, that our ancestors were already in West Africa , while Egypt, Ethiopia... Jordan, was there.

And again, the African descendants in the Caribbean and South America , cake.over on slave shops just like the ones who came.to America. Far more Africans were imorted to Cuba than the whole United States. No, they were not in those places already. Sea travel by humans across the Atlantic didn't come.from Africa.

 

[exiledking]

And with white philanthropy.

That's cool, but it wasn't done and wouldn't get done if those people had not mad ether plans. The requests, and put in the work with whatever was provided. While so called Black leaders of today talk all this shit, one of them scamming people for a school he couldn't even build in a leftover building FROM THAT ERA, The people of that era built more than we even remember. And trust, much of that money was provided by people themselves. Morris Brown was started in a church basement. The AME church played a huge part in starting a lot of schools.

 

[exiledking]

If I get what you're saying its... it's not where you're from its where you're at...

But here's the problem with that in the case of the Black American...

Because most of us don't know the particulars of our African heritage beyond the most general knowledge of you came from this continent (hence the generalized term AFRICAN-American rather than say Nigerian-American or Ghanian-American and you can break it down even further from there) therefore we're stuck with a skin color designation of black..and we've been building a culture and heritage from that.

Unlike pretty much any other group in American society you have one group that's been completely cut off from its original heritage and MAYBE that's why the n-word flows so easily from the descendants of the African slaves because that's what we've been called more than anything else in this country..its a part of our AMERICAN history.

If THIS is our origin story (slavery) then I liken that origin to a child who was born from rape and raised in an abusive household. That's why there can never be true solidarity among Americans in this society because BLACK AMERICANS are the product of rape and abuse.

They say that slavery is the scar on America..that's not true...slavery was the open wound... BLACK AMERICANS are the scar...the scar is the repair..the healed over skin..but a scar is also a reminder of the injury. As long as the Descendents Of American Slavery are called BLACK and not the original countries/ethnicities of origin...then we're always going to be a reminder of the injury..the open wound.

I frankly don't know if we as Black American can ever be made whole even if we could trace those origins...the connection to those countries and peoples have been broken for generations. To the point where many Black Americans reject Africa completely. Unlike every other ethnic group in this country, we are truly untethered from the cultures and histories of our peoples of origins. That's a hole in our collective souls that we've been trying to fill for a long time now.

Do you know how many stories there are of a people originating from a tragedy? That would be damn near all. The reason Black people in America relate to the Jewish stories in the Bible , is because the stories talk about being slaves and overcoming it.

Muhammad started Islam after being chased out of and chastised in one city. His early followers were persecuted , and so on. Same with Rome, Egypt, name the place. Someone ran from somewhere and fought to earn their place.

You keep acting like there was ONE place called Africa that was some peaceful civilization, united from East to.west, north to south, and everyone was on one Accord, and they all loved the same way, ate the same food, shared one culture called "African culture". There were many, and they evolved over time, constantly changing due to whatever circumstances. and here we are, born from wars, sea travel, new terrain , slavery in a new land, war to end it, merging with cultures from.europe, and the people who were already here, and globalism. We don't need to be "madE whole". We are whole. History doesn't make you whole. You do.