Pac never agreed to full randomized testing so basically Floyd closed the door in his face from the jump and lying ass Bob Arum kept trying to negotiate but Floyd was done.
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=24550&more=1
Vivek W: Team Mayweather said after the Mosley victory, and I was in the media room when they said it, "there would be no negotiations if there is no randomized drug testing". As I was told, among a few monetary issues that could have been potentially resolved, the core issue came down to Team Pacquiao never fully conceding to the testing demand, and although they came closer than efforts of the past, they never quite gave Floyd what he wanted by removing the cutoff date. Now, if this is true, that would explain why Team Mayweather felt there may have been an initial discussion, but no actual negotiations, because they (as I was told) refused to talk at any point beyond that refusal, unless it changed. Is that the reality of what we're faced with?
Jeff MW: To be totally honest, I don't know who your sources are, but that's as close to the truth as you're ever gonna get! Basically, once again, they couldn't agree. There was a concession to a certain point, but random is random. There was no need to entertain anything beyond that point. There were never formal talks between the two camps, and regardless of who carried the messages back and forth, there was no desire to continue from the beginning when it became evident that the same issues that halted things the last time were gonna be an issue this time. There was no need to even entertain that and Floyd didn't. He literally moved on, despite what they may think was being negotiated.
Vivek W: I'm gonna be honest with you, I initially took the position like "wow, Floyd basically walked away and substantiated several claims about his perceived non-desire to face Pacquiao"; but as the source and I discussed, there was not one visible piece of information that proved Pacquiao had in fact conceded to the full randomized testing, and as I traced the hints and checked the files, I literally couldn't find anything to overrule that theory. Bob Arum on record never went beyond saying he "couldn't get into details". Neither did any other Team Pacquiao or Top Rank official.
Jeff MW: (interrupting) Vivek, listen, Pacquiao and Arum know what it would have taken to make the fight, and they didn't make it happen. Floyd is at a point in his career where he is totally fine being semi-retired until something really motivating comes back across the table. I'm his uncle, but I can't even tell you if he's gonna fight, or if he's gonna retire. Even as his Uncle I have to take a wait-and-see approach. It all comes down to what motivates him. What I do know is that when the time comes he puts in the work, and he does that even when he's not preparing for a fight. But, Floyd won't even attempt to respond to anyone trying to force his hands. He knows he doesn't have to. Fight fans wanting to see that will continue to be disappointed.
Vivek W: You know what, that's exactly why I don't like to get into choosing sides or talking down on a fighter, because you just never know in this funny business. Consider this......Floyd was talked down upon after he defeated Mosley. Some said Shane was "off too long", "washed up", and "no longer a threat". Those same fans who said this now have to face the reality that the man they support (Pacquiao) will soon step in the ring with a man (Margarito) who was away from the ring even longer than Shane Mosley was.
And what makes it so bad, this man is suspended for a weapon he won't have on fight night, which makes him less of a threat, and was KO'd by the same "washed up" Mosley who Mayweather pitched a shut out against. Now.......will that same group of fans strip away the greatness of what I expect to be an eventual Pacquiao victory, too? Not at all! Yet it's identical to what they criticized Floyd for. I just can't do that, man! I have a problem with so many things Floyd has done, but I have no problem being the minority in saying that he isn't alone, because it's a revolving door and these two guys are very much the same as Oscar, and Tyson, and all the others were.
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=24550&more=1
Vivek W: Team Mayweather said after the Mosley victory, and I was in the media room when they said it, "there would be no negotiations if there is no randomized drug testing". As I was told, among a few monetary issues that could have been potentially resolved, the core issue came down to Team Pacquiao never fully conceding to the testing demand, and although they came closer than efforts of the past, they never quite gave Floyd what he wanted by removing the cutoff date. Now, if this is true, that would explain why Team Mayweather felt there may have been an initial discussion, but no actual negotiations, because they (as I was told) refused to talk at any point beyond that refusal, unless it changed. Is that the reality of what we're faced with?
Jeff MW: To be totally honest, I don't know who your sources are, but that's as close to the truth as you're ever gonna get! Basically, once again, they couldn't agree. There was a concession to a certain point, but random is random. There was no need to entertain anything beyond that point. There were never formal talks between the two camps, and regardless of who carried the messages back and forth, there was no desire to continue from the beginning when it became evident that the same issues that halted things the last time were gonna be an issue this time. There was no need to even entertain that and Floyd didn't. He literally moved on, despite what they may think was being negotiated.
Vivek W: I'm gonna be honest with you, I initially took the position like "wow, Floyd basically walked away and substantiated several claims about his perceived non-desire to face Pacquiao"; but as the source and I discussed, there was not one visible piece of information that proved Pacquiao had in fact conceded to the full randomized testing, and as I traced the hints and checked the files, I literally couldn't find anything to overrule that theory. Bob Arum on record never went beyond saying he "couldn't get into details". Neither did any other Team Pacquiao or Top Rank official.
Jeff MW: (interrupting) Vivek, listen, Pacquiao and Arum know what it would have taken to make the fight, and they didn't make it happen. Floyd is at a point in his career where he is totally fine being semi-retired until something really motivating comes back across the table. I'm his uncle, but I can't even tell you if he's gonna fight, or if he's gonna retire. Even as his Uncle I have to take a wait-and-see approach. It all comes down to what motivates him. What I do know is that when the time comes he puts in the work, and he does that even when he's not preparing for a fight. But, Floyd won't even attempt to respond to anyone trying to force his hands. He knows he doesn't have to. Fight fans wanting to see that will continue to be disappointed.
Vivek W: You know what, that's exactly why I don't like to get into choosing sides or talking down on a fighter, because you just never know in this funny business. Consider this......Floyd was talked down upon after he defeated Mosley. Some said Shane was "off too long", "washed up", and "no longer a threat". Those same fans who said this now have to face the reality that the man they support (Pacquiao) will soon step in the ring with a man (Margarito) who was away from the ring even longer than Shane Mosley was.
And what makes it so bad, this man is suspended for a weapon he won't have on fight night, which makes him less of a threat, and was KO'd by the same "washed up" Mosley who Mayweather pitched a shut out against. Now.......will that same group of fans strip away the greatness of what I expect to be an eventual Pacquiao victory, too? Not at all! Yet it's identical to what they criticized Floyd for. I just can't do that, man! I have a problem with so many things Floyd has done, but I have no problem being the minority in saying that he isn't alone, because it's a revolving door and these two guys are very much the same as Oscar, and Tyson, and all the others were.
at Floyd Jr. not even talking about this shit. So lemme get this right, if theoretically Roger dies say...tomorrow, Floyd will never fight again because he has no trainer? Ya'll really buy that shit?
