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Now that A-Rod has admitted to taking 'roids in '93 before it became illegal should that stop him from going to the hall of fame.
Also, to the poster about Ty Cobb. While he was widely reported to be racist, there is not actually much proof of it.
In 1908, he knocked down a black laborer worker who accidentally flicked a bit of asphalt on Cobb’s trousers while coating a street. The black newspaper Chicago Defender reported that Cobb had kicked a chambermaid down a flight of stairs after she objected to being called “******.”
In 1909, Cobb slapped a black elevator operator at Hotel Euclid in Cleveland, Ohio. In the lobby, the house detective, also black, attacked Cobb with a nightstick, As they fought, the detective, George Stansfield, pulled his gun. Cobb produced a knife, cutting Stansfield.
In 1912, Ty Cobb was being heckled by a fan named Claude Lueker in New York at a Highlanders-Tigers game. The fan was being very vile towards Cobb every time he stepped to the plate. Cobb began to become very angry over the insults and epithets hurled his way, but totally lost it when Lueker called Cobb a "half-a-******". Cobb leapt into the stands and began to ferociously attack the fan. Fans began to plead for Cobb to stop, but he would not relent. It was later discovered Lueker was handicapped and had no hands, in which Cobb retorted "I dont care if he's got no feet". Cobb was suspended indefinitely by baseball.
Major League players regularly barnstormed against Negro League teams in Cuba during the offseasons to create supplemental income. After losing games to a Negro League club 1 year, Cobb replied, "darkies' place is in the stands or as clubhouse help." He no longer participated in the barnstorming of Negro League teams after that.
DISCLAIMER !! An "unapologetic New York Yankee fan !!
I accept A-Rod's 'apology at face value.The same attitude was demonstrated towards Yankee pitcher, Andy Pettitte. In fact, I'm willing to give the same treatment to the other 103-players (former and current), thus far unnamed. The identify known to the MLBP union, and/or some unknown 'leaker' (news media?)seeking to get paid--BIG TIME. Plus, it's usually personal due to some 'slight'--real or imagined! but in todays' 'gotcha' journalism, that's expected. Call me 'naive', but I still believe in Junior Griffey. With the many injuries he suffered, he should have used HGH!!!!
There are many A-Rod 'haters' who can't wait tonitpick the man's mea culpa, beginning with..."I told you so, Jose Conseco wasn't the only person who suspected. Let Barry Bonds go, get off his case, etc., etc. Plus, A-Rod's insincere". So were most of prospective candidates coming before the U.S. Senate, seeking their approval ("oh, I meant to pay my taxes, I simply forgot"; "you mean THEY were ILLEGALS? Had I known, yada,yada,yada.": and the refrain continues![]()
If nothing else, such logic supplies a form of 'alibi reasoning'. Just champion it as part of the 'steroid era'. Many did it, with the knowledge--if not their blessing-- of MLB and MLBPA. They may feel 'born again', but that religious change came about due to the threats/ pressure of the government authorities. Including a 'bandstanding (vote searching), Johnny-come-lately U.S. Congress (they were too busy hustling the banking industry to make mortgages available to any and all).
Personally, I'm tired of hearing--as are most people-- about steroid dopers. I'm more concern about the American economy. Like some people (like former Boston Red Sox pitcher, Curt Shilling) have said, the other 103 names should be released in an effort to put this mess behind us, and dispose of the 'broad-brush' of accusation. But I will lay my bet on former Ranger/Yankee, Ruben Sierra, although he was initially rated as a five-tool player. He made his money, and got out of the game, but not before passing the steroid info on to Sammy Sosa--also a former Ranger before being traded to the Cubs (with his newly developed HR power). But that's another story, for another day.
Play ball! Spring training is less than two weeks (pitchers & catchers due to report)away, and the Yankees are going to be hell this season!![]()
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Baseball's all-time hit leader is having a hard time believing Alex Rodriguez.
Pete Rose, who was given a lifetime ban from baseball for betting on the game while managing the Cincinnati Reds in the 1980s, said during an interview on WFAN radio in New York on Friday that Rodriguez was experienced enough to know better than to take a banned substance when the slugger signed with the Rangers before the 2001 season.
"He wasn't a young kid not knowing what he was doing," Rose said of Rodriguez, who had spent seven years in Seattle before joining Texas.
Rose also doesn't believe pressure to live up to a landmark $252 million contract was a valid reason for Rodriguez to turn to performance-enhancing drugs.
During an interview with ESPN earlier this week, Rodriguez said that he "felt an enormous amount of pressure" when he signed with the Rangers, adding, "I was young, I was stupid, I was naive. I wanted to prove to everyone that I was worth being one of the greatest players of all-time."
Rose told WIP radio in Philadelphia on Thursday that he also didn't believe Rodriguez was unaware of what substances he was guilty of using, or that Rodriguez quit using performance-enhancing drugs after 2003.
"If you're A-Rod and you're using from 2001 to 2003 and you hit 52 home runs a year, aren't you thinking about using it in 2004?" Rose said. "With that kind of success, are you going to say, 'I don't need this anymore?' I don't know how it works. I don't know the mind-set of a guy that does that."
While Rose said he exchanges text messages with Rodriguez, and that he will continue to "be a supporter of A-Rod," he's upset by what he perceives as a double-standard between himself and those who have used performance-enhancing drugs.
"I got caught, and I made a terrible mistake," Rose told WFAN. "Guys that are caught [using performance enhancing drugs], nothing happens to them [In terms of punishment by the game unless they did so after 2003]."
SoothsayerMore and more, Jose Canseco is looking like a vindicated soothsayer.