A-Rod admits to taking steroids

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Now that A-Rod has admitted to taking 'roids in '93 before it became illegal should that stop him from going to the hall of fame.
 
If a murdering racist like Ty Cobb and a ku klux klansmen like Roger Hornsby could make it in, I dont see why A-Rod cant.
 
No more than it should stop Barry Bonds, Mark McGuire, Raphael Palmeiro or any of the other deserving players who put up HOF numbers. This 'roid crap is just that -- crap!! :hmm:
 
You know i agree it shouldn't change anything but the voting is done by grudge holding reporters who never had any athleticism and never played shit. Can you imagine Bonds, Clemens, McGuire, Palmiero, Sosa & A-Rod some of the best not being inducted. :itsawrap:
 
DISCLAIMER !! An "unapologetic New York Yankee fan !!

I accept A-Rod's 'apology at face value.The same attitude was demonstrated towards Yankee pitcher, Andy Pettitte. In fact, I'm willing to give the same treatment to the other 103-players (former and current), thus far unnamed. The identify known to the MLBP union, and/or some unknown 'leaker' (news media?)seeking to get paid--BIG TIME. Plus, it's usually personal due to some 'slight'--real or imagined! but in todays' 'gotcha' journalism, that's expected. Call me 'naive', but I still believe in Junior Griffey. With the many injuries he suffered, he should have used HGH!!!!:yes:

There are many A-Rod 'haters' who can't wait tonitpick the man's mea culpa, beginning with..."I told you so, Jose Conseco wasn't the only person who suspected. Let Barry Bonds go, get off his case, etc., etc. Plus, A-Rod's insincere". So were most of prospective candidates coming before the U.S. Senate, seeking their approval ("oh, I meant to pay my taxes, I simply forgot"; "you mean THEY were ILLEGALS? Had I known, yada,yada,yada.": and the refrain continues :angry::angry:

If nothing else, such logic supplies a form of 'alibi reasoning'. Just champion it as part of the 'steroid era'. Many did it, with the knowledge--if not their blessing-- of MLB and MLBPA. They may feel 'born again', but that religious change came about due to the threats/ pressure of the government authorities. Including a 'bandstanding (vote searching), Johnny-come-lately U.S. Congress (they were too busy hustling the banking industry to make mortgages available to any and all).

Personally, I'm tired of hearing--as are most people-- about steroid dopers. I'm more concern about the American economy. Like some people (like former Boston Red Sox pitcher, Curt Shilling) have said, the other 103 names should be released in an effort to put this mess behind us, and dispose of the 'broad-brush' of accusation. But I will lay my bet on former Ranger/Yankee, Ruben Sierra, although he was initially rated as a five-tool player. He made his money, and got out of the game, but not before passing the steroid info on to Sammy Sosa--also a former Ranger before being traded to the Cubs (with his newly developed HR power). But that's another story, for another day.

Play ball! Spring training is less than two weeks (pitchers & catchers due to report)away, and the Yankees are going to be hell this season!:yes::yes:
 
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Now that A-Rod has admitted to taking 'roids in '93 before it became illegal should that stop him from going to the hall of fame.

Roids were illegal in 03, but there was not an acceptable test for them in MLB yet. So, he is guilty of doing them.

Also, to the poster about Ty Cobb. While he was widely reported to be racist, there is not actually much proof of it. He is actually quoted as supporting integration of baseball as long as the players did there job. He also had several scholarships, and none of them were restricted to whites. I don't know anything about Hornsby.
 
Also, to the poster about Ty Cobb. While he was widely reported to be racist, there is not actually much proof of it.

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In 1908, he knocked down a black laborer worker who accidentally flicked a bit of asphalt on Cobb’s trousers while coating a street. The black newspaper Chicago Defender reported that Cobb had kicked a chambermaid down a flight of stairs after she objected to being called “******.”

In 1909, Cobb slapped a black elevator operator at Hotel Euclid in Cleveland, Ohio. In the lobby, the house detective, also black, attacked Cobb with a nightstick, As they fought, the detective, George Stansfield, pulled his gun. Cobb produced a knife, cutting Stansfield.

In 1912, Ty Cobb was being heckled by a fan named Claude Lueker in New York at a Highlanders-Tigers game. The fan was being very vile towards Cobb every time he stepped to the plate. Cobb began to become very angry over the insults and epithets hurled his way, but totally lost it when Lueker called Cobb a "half-a-******". Cobb leapt into the stands and began to ferociously attack the fan. Fans began to plead for Cobb to stop, but he would not relent. It was later discovered Lueker was handicapped and had no hands, in which Cobb retorted "I dont care if he's got no feet". Cobb was suspended indefinitely by baseball.

Major League players regularly barnstormed against Negro League teams in Cuba during the offseasons to create supplemental income. After losing games to a Negro League club 1 year, Cobb replied, "darkies' place is in the stands or as clubhouse help." He no longer participated in the barnstorming of Negro League teams after that.

These are just a few well documented incidents involving the "Georgia Peach"
 
DISCLAIMER !! An "unapologetic New York Yankee fan !!

I accept A-Rod's 'apology at face value.The same attitude was demonstrated towards Yankee pitcher, Andy Pettitte. In fact, I'm willing to give the same treatment to the other 103-players (former and current), thus far unnamed. The identify known to the MLBP union, and/or some unknown 'leaker' (news media?)seeking to get paid--BIG TIME. Plus, it's usually personal due to some 'slight'--real or imagined! but in todays' 'gotcha' journalism, that's expected. Call me 'naive', but I still believe in Junior Griffey. With the many injuries he suffered, he should have used HGH!!!!:yes:

There are many A-Rod 'haters' who can't wait tonitpick the man's mea culpa, beginning with..."I told you so, Jose Conseco wasn't the only person who suspected. Let Barry Bonds go, get off his case, etc., etc. Plus, A-Rod's insincere". So were most of prospective candidates coming before the U.S. Senate, seeking their approval ("oh, I meant to pay my taxes, I simply forgot"; "you mean THEY were ILLEGALS? Had I known, yada,yada,yada.": and the refrain continues :angry::angry:

If nothing else, such logic supplies a form of 'alibi reasoning'. Just champion it as part of the 'steroid era'. Many did it, with the knowledge--if not their blessing-- of MLB and MLBPA. They may feel 'born again', but that religious change came about due to the threats/ pressure of the government authorities. Including a 'bandstanding (vote searching), Johnny-come-lately U.S. Congress (they were too busy hustling the banking industry to make mortgages available to any and all).

Personally, I'm tired of hearing--as are most people-- about steroid dopers. I'm more concern about the American economy. Like some people (like former Boston Red Sox pitcher, Curt Shilling) have said, the other 103 names should be released in an effort to put this mess behind us, and dispose of the 'broad-brush' of accusation. But I will lay my bet on former Ranger/Yankee, Ruben Sierra, although he was initially rated as a five-tool player. He made his money, and got out of the game, but not before passing the steroid info on to Sammy Sosa--also a former Ranger before being traded to the Cubs (with his newly developed HR power). But that's another story, for another day.

Play ball! Spring training is less than two weeks (pitchers & catchers due to report)away, and the Yankees are going to be hell this season!:yes::yes:

C/S.. Fuck all the Bullshit.. they are Pro Athletes, getting paid top Dollar to Produce.. Some of them need to use that shit..! And So what if they do.. This whole "think of the children" is BS..! Look if your a parent that isn't aware of your kids activities; then its a Player who's never meet the kids fault..? If thats the case who's to blame for little Johnny using meth or some silly shit..! Bottom line is that in the last 10-20 years or more; Pros (in All Sports) have done what ever is neccecery to survive.. just like any one else.. (don't here an as much of an uproar about those CEO's getting Million dollar salaries.. but still asking and getting tax bailouts).. at the end of the Day the shit is a GAME.. Period..! Let the the Muthafuckas play ball.. that HOF shit is eventually gonna have to accept these kats, other wise your gonna have a 10-20 year gap.. and fans really want that..! And this whole leaking info "unanimously" out is gonna eventually result in another strike.. the Comish better do something quick..!
BTW.. its kind of interesting that alot of these ROID players are form the Bay and Texas Area teams..! GW's old team has alot of Problems.. and they still suck..!;) You think Gw didn't know about any of this..?:rolleyes: Sure just Like Katrina, and 9/11..!!
 
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Baseball's all-time hit leader is having a hard time believing Alex Rodriguez.

Pete Rose, who was given a lifetime ban from baseball for betting on the game while managing the Cincinnati Reds in the 1980s, said during an interview on WFAN radio in New York on Friday that Rodriguez was experienced enough to know better than to take a banned substance when the slugger signed with the Rangers before the 2001 season.

"He wasn't a young kid not knowing what he was doing," Rose said of Rodriguez, who had spent seven years in Seattle before joining Texas.

Rose also doesn't believe pressure to live up to a landmark $252 million contract was a valid reason for Rodriguez to turn to performance-enhancing drugs.

During an interview with ESPN earlier this week, Rodriguez said that he "felt an enormous amount of pressure" when he signed with the Rangers, adding, "I was young, I was stupid, I was naive. I wanted to prove to everyone that I was worth being one of the greatest players of all-time."

Rose told WIP radio in Philadelphia on Thursday that he also didn't believe Rodriguez was unaware of what substances he was guilty of using, or that Rodriguez quit using performance-enhancing drugs after 2003.

"If you're A-Rod and you're using from 2001 to 2003 and you hit 52 home runs a year, aren't you thinking about using it in 2004?" Rose said. "With that kind of success, are you going to say, 'I don't need this anymore?' I don't know how it works. I don't know the mind-set of a guy that does that."

While Rose said he exchanges text messages with Rodriguez, and that he will continue to "be a supporter of A-Rod," he's upset by what he perceives as a double-standard between himself and those who have used performance-enhancing drugs.

"I got caught, and I made a terrible mistake," Rose told WFAN. "Guys that are caught [using performance enhancing drugs], nothing happens to them [In terms of punishment by the game unless they did so after 2003]."

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090214&content_id=3827990&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
 
Pete has a Valid point and reason for being bitter..! I think Baseball as a whole needs to check it self.. On this whole "steroids" shit..! I mean how is it cheating if every one is doing it (both pitchers and cacthers)..! On top of that cheating has always been part of the Game... weather it's spitballs, or Blocking the Plate.. or even deeper.. how about not letting black folks join the leauge ( the real Home run King Josh Gibson)..! I think Baseball needs to take a page from the White House... (Election of Obama).. and just wipe the slate clean.. give Rose his just due reccord.. Stop holding grudges for players who used (Barry, Big Mac, etc).. and install and inforce a "real" drug teasting policy..! thats the only way they can fix this situation.. the more it drags on the more it hurts the game..!!!
 
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