10 Things I Want To Say To A Black Woman

And why is that woman inflicting violence on the other woman like that in your sig?

That's Alicia Fox, current women's wrestling champion.

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This nigga was Simp'd up. I mean no lady will admit it, but their posts in here pretty much say so. Most would not date him or would assign him to "Liquor" status. Him saying positive shit about Black women isn't simpish. The nigga act is all simpish.
 
He's giving black women some props. What's wrong with that? He's still a little soft. But it doesn't change what he has to say as being a GOOD thing.
 
am I the only one who could not get thru 1 minute of this vid? the voice and his demeanor are KILIING ME!!! Uggghhh :confused:

I turned it off cause I couldn't understand what he was saying so I went back and read the words and even the words had ???'s in it so I'm still lost. But what was read seemed nice.​
 
He's giving black women some props. What's wrong with that? He's still a little soft. But it doesn't change what he has to say as being a GOOD thing.

i guess it's all in approach?

i mean is he saying anything different between what this guy said...and Raheem DeVaughn's "Woman"?

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maybe it's just the spoken word aspect, seems like it's trying to force some deep concept in a attempt to make it rhyme (sometimes)
 
First time I ever checked SOL (that I can remember) and I knew this would be posted here. I was actually there when he spit this. It was at the Philadelphia Youth Poetry Movement Grand Slam. He use to spit for team Philly a few years ago, and was featured on HBOs Brave New Voices. Believe it or not, Josh isn't a simp ass dude. He's brilliant, and articulate, but definitely not a simp (as far as I know anyway).

This is a very uplifting piece. I'm glad sistas are getting a lot from it.
 
We're bombarded with nothing but negativity towards black women nowadays and a brotha steps up to celebrate us and our beauty and people start calling him sweet and soft and shit and putting him down smmfh makes no damn sense

And LMAO @ Actin

What's crazy is, there's nothing sweet or soft about him. He's just educated and accomplished. He was invited to The White House to spit for Obama.



Just because YOU wouldn't eat there. There may be a person who would LOVE the place. For instance, i hate Waffle House. I have a friend who LOVVVVES wafflehouse. I wouldn't eat at wafflehouse if you paid me. I'm terrified of the place. So if i happened to fall upon a place similar to wafflehouse? I'd tell my friend to go try it because she might like the place. Something new.

With this man in this video? Sure some of us women would not be with him. I already discussed what i wanted in a man in another thread. My husband wasn't the poetry type...But Lonestar29 said if the guy was the right age she'd date him. We're different women who like different things. Maybe she wants that kind of man? I'd punch him in his chest till he got some bass in his voice or something, jk. lol


And why is that woman inflicting violence on the other woman like that in your sig?

So you'd punch a UPenn grad, Rhodes Scholar, and future Princeton PHD student in his chest because he wasn't man enough? I realize you're not serious about the actual physical violence, but this is very telling. I'm starting to understand what a lot of the brothas are saying on this board. Maybe I was in denial. But to me, shouldn't a brotha like this be cream of the crop?
 
So you'd punch a UPenn grad, Rhodes Scholar, and future Princeton PHD student in his chest because he wasn't man enough? I realize you're not serious about the actual physical violence, but this is very telling. I'm starting to understand what a lot of the brothas are saying on this board. Maybe I was in denial. But to me, shouldn't a brotha like this be cream of the crop?

I said more Mr. Vision. I've also said a lot about what i view a MAN is. It's in some other threads. Take a look around. Enjoy yourself. Jump into conversations. And glad you enjoyed the poem.
 
I said more Mr. Vision. I've also said a lot about what i view a MAN is. It's in some other threads. Take a look around. Enjoy yourself. Jump into conversations. And glad you enjoyed the poem.
Ok, you're being evasive queen. There's no reason you and I can't converse in a non confrontational way. You know nothing about this brotha with the exception of ONE poem, and basically said you need to toughen him up. Wow queen.

My problem is this. Josh is in a crazy part of his evolution. Homie is brilliant. He really is a young Obama. But we live in a "swagged" out period where people like Josh are considered "soft" or whatever because he doesn't have the swag of a (enter your favorite rapper/R&B singer/actor here). He's actually what's called, REAL! Real in the truest sense of the word. So, let's say, black women his age, who don't know he's been on HBO, aren't checking for him because he lacks "bass in his voice." So, he goes where the love is. Fast forward 5 years, he's dating a white chick (which is highly unlikely knowing him), and gets criticized for being a sell out, or seeking a white chick, when all he wanted was love. When he comes out of being "corny" and evolves into being a Marc Hill, or Hill harper, or Obama, then he's wanted? When women his age get tired of being dogged by the men with "bass in their voice" and swag, then they seek a Josh? C'mon. This is a vicious cycle that a lot of queens are purposely turning a blind eye to. This is what a lot of men on BGOL discuss daily, but gets passed off as female bashing (there are mad black female bashers on this board, no doubt about it.)
 
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Ok, you're being evasive queen. There's no reason you and I can't converse in a non confrontational way. You know nothing about this brotha with the exception of ONE poem, and basically said you need to toughen him up. Wow queen.

My problem is this. Josh is in a crazy part of his evolution. Homie is brilliant. He really is a young Obama. But we live in a "swagged" out period where people like Josh are considered "soft" or whatever because he doesn't have the swag of a (enter your favorite rapper/R&B singer/actor here). He's actually what's called, REAL! Real in the truest sense of the word. So, let's say, black women his age, who don't know he's been on HBO, aren't checking for him because he lacks "bass in his voice." So, he goes where the love is. Fast forward 5 years, he's dating a white chick, and gets criticized for being a sell out, or seeking a white chick, when all he wanted was love. When he comes out of being "corny" and evolves into being a Marc Hill, or Hill harper, or Obama, then he's wanted? When women his age get tired of being dogged by the men with "bass in their voice" and swag, then they seek a Josh? C'mon. This is a vicious cycle that a lot of queens are purposely turning a blind eye to. This is what a lot of men on BGOL discuss daily, but gets passed off as female bashing (there are mad black female bashers on this board, no doubt about it.)
Don't reach too far young man. I got thruogh about 30 seconds of the vid this time around. I think you should know by now that intelligence is not the only thing that attracts. I have never liked a "swagged" man, distrust any man who wears nut hugging jeans, and anybody who listens to new rap or rides with their music so loud they can hear it down the street. This man is not doing anything for my eyes and he DOES NOT have enough bass in his voice (yet). You trying to lump women together who are not attracted to him because of his intelligence/kind words, is like women trying to lump black men together for not finding Condoleeza Rice to be the cream of the crop :hmm: You see what I mean? I appreciate his sentiment, but I would never date a man like him--even when I was younger I wouldn't have.

EDIT: my opinion, my choice, but there are others in this thread who have said they would date him. Every woman is different. :dunno:
 
Don't reach too far young man. I got thruogh about 30 seconds of the vid this time around. I think you should know by now that intelligence is not the only thing that attracts. I have never liked a "swagged" man, distrust any man who wears nut hugging jeans, and anybody who listens to new rap or rides with their music so loud they can hear it down the street. This man is not doing anything for my eyes and he DOES NOT have enough bass in his voice (yet). You trying to lump women together who are not attracted to him because of his intelligence/kind words, is like women trying to lump black men together for not finding Condoleeza Rice to be the cream of the crop :hmm: You see what I mean? I appreciate his sentiment, but I would never date a man like him--even when I was younger I wouldn't have.

EDIT: my opinion, my choice, but there are others in this thread who have said they would date him. Every woman is different. :dunno:

I agree... I'm not saying education should be the ONLY preference. I guess my point is the verbiage used. I mentor young artists who feel they need to be hypermasculine for women. Feel like they can't be themselves because that is deemed as soft. So my issue isn't preference by any means. My issue is ASSUMING a person is "soft" without knowing them. Simply because of ONE 3 minute poem saying things that sistas say frequently men don't say or feel. Being the beacon that sistas say is gone. I guess that's my issue. My apologies if I didn't present it as eloquently as needed.
 
I agree... I'm not saying education should be the ONLY preference. I guess my point is the verbiage used. I mentor young artists who feel they need to be hypermasculine for women. Feel like they can't be themselves because that is deemed as soft. So my issue isn't preference by any means. My issue is ASSUMING a person is "soft" without knowing them. Simply because of ONE 3 minute poem saying things that sistas say frequently men don't say or feel. Being the beacon that sistas say is gone. I guess that's my issue. My apologies if I didn't present it as eloquently as needed.
Oh ok. I don't know if he's soft or hard. I see your point and agree :)
 
Ok, you're being evasive queen.
Mr. Vision i just ...lol i just said there were other things i said. I didn't evade the question. You didn't even ask me a question come to think of it.

There's no reason you and I can't converse in a non confrontational way. You know nothing about this brotha with the exception of ONE poem, and basically said you need to toughen him up. Wow queen.
And there is no reason whatsoever we can't be civil and non confrontational. I do not. And i'm a very good judge of character. Now. From the very fact he made a poem. Loses points to me. I don't need a man who's got that kind of time. I appreciate his effort. Like i said, it's just not for me. What i like in a man is pretty.....old school. This ulta sensitive stuff is...not for me. Not what i'm attracted too.

My problem is this. Josh is in a crazy part of his evolution. Homie is brilliant. He really is a young Obama. But we live in a "swagged" out period where people like Josh are considered "soft" or whatever because he doesn't have the swag of a (enter your favorite rapper/R&B singer/actor here). He's actually what's called, REAL!

And i love it for him. I really do. I'm not 1 of those women who glorify swag. There's different ways to be different ways sir.

Real in the truest sense of the word. So, let's say, black women his age, who don't know he's been on HBO, aren't checking for him because he lacks "bass in his voice."

That's another key factor for me. His voice. Is so a no no.

So, he goes where the love is. Fast forward 5 years, he's dating a white chick (which is highly unlikely knowing him), and gets criticized for being a sell out, or seeking a white chick, when all he wanted was love. When he comes out of being "corny" and evolves into being a Marc Hill, or Hill harper, or Obama, then he's wanted?

Yes. it sucks. But apparently it's true. I wish it weren't.

When women his age get tired of being dogged by the men with "bass in their voice" and swag, then they seek a Josh? C'mon. This is a vicious cycle that a lot of queens are purposely turning a blind eye to. This is what a lot of men on BGOL discuss daily, but gets passed off as female bashing (there are mad black female bashers on this board, no doubt about it.)
Ok. So what about the women like me? I'm not in his age group. I also think you're making assumptions that you're accusing me of doing as well. Read a little bit more on some things i've said around here. I support black love. I just know what type of guy this is. And i know he's not what i'd like to be with.

Are you saying that i should cast out my physical attraction and be with a guy like him because he's nice?
 
I agree... I'm not saying education should be the ONLY preference. I guess my point is the verbiage used. I mentor young artists who feel they need to be hypermasculine for women. Feel like they can't be themselves because that is deemed as soft. So my issue isn't preference by any means. My issue is ASSUMING a person is "soft" without knowing them. Simply because of ONE 3 minute poem saying things that sistas say frequently men don't say or feel. Being the beacon that sistas say is gone. I guess that's my issue. My apologies if I didn't present it as eloquently as needed.

Once again brother Vision. I worry about this extremism that people get so into. I don't see this young brother as MASCULINE by a 10th of what i prefer. Not hyper masculine. Some masculine would be fine. Why is it that it can't ever be in the middle? Why can't a woman have a preference for a man with balance? Now of course we're going to make our assumptions based on the video we saw. Alot can be seen in 3 minutes. Most women know if they'd entertain a guy within seconds of meeting him.

I prefer a balanced man.
 
Once again brother Vision. I worry about this extremism that people get so into. I don't see this young brother as MASCULINE by a 10th of what i prefer. Not hyper masculine. Some masculine would be fine. Why is it that it can't ever be in the middle? Why can't a woman have a preference for a man with balance? Now of course we're going to make our assumptions based on the video we saw. Alot can be seen in 3 minutes. Most women know if they'd entertain a guy within seconds of meeting him.

I prefer a balanced man.
again, I think you're missing what I'm saying. My point is, you judge his masculinity in 3 minutes, by one poem. I'm not saying Josh is hyper-masculine.

My question is, what's masculinity? What could he have done differently to be judge as masculine in your eyes?
 
again, I think you're missing what I'm saying. My point is, you judge his masculinity in 3 minutes, by one poem. I'm not saying Josh is hyper-masculine.

My question is, what's masculinity? What could he have done differently to be judge as masculine in your eyes?

Good morning Mr. Vision! Here are a few of my posts regarding subjects like this. My idea of what a "man" is. My idea of manliness.

A description. very particular description of what i liked in a man physically

More discussion i think this 1 was about my husband

My "dislike" of smallish type men and our discussion of BASS in one's voice

Now this is from seeing him. I can't talk to him. I don't know his history. I didn't even say the young man was a bad dude. I don't think he is. I'm in my 30's Mr. Vision. I was with my husband for a long time. I have no interest in swagger or anything else. Just as i have no interest in sensitive poets. I don't care if he recited his poetry to Obama and the Apostles. He's not appealing to me. And this isn't a BAD thing. His type is appealing to SOMEBODY. And that's all that matters.

In some way. Alot of women will like poems like this. Some won't. I showed it to a lot of ladies myself. Most of them loved it. A few of them had the same ideas some of these ladies in this post had. But NO ONE disliked his subject matter.

What could he have done differently? Absolutely nothing. Nothing hee could have done to make me say, "yeah i'd date him". And he shouldn't even try. Some woman out there eats guys like him up. Just find him delectable.

I understand the point of your mentoring of young artists. I think that's very important work. Everyone needs something like that somewhere.
 
So you'd punch a UPenn grad, Rhodes Scholar, and future Princeton PHD student in his chest because he wasn't man enough? I realize you're not serious about the actual physical violence, but this is very telling. I'm starting to understand what a lot of the brothas are saying on this board. Maybe I was in denial. But to me, shouldn't a brotha like this be cream of the crop?

I agree that some of the responses in here from the women do perpetuate the stereotype of the kind of men that black women go for ... honestly it sorta irked me how people were calling him soft and all other types of names ... this is the sort of brotha that should be celebrated not only cuz he wants to uplift his sistas but because he is very educated and has already accomplished alot

Well anyways I posted this vid on 2 other boards and most of those sistas loved it and him so please do not take some of the posts in here to be the majority cuz they are far from
 
I agree that some of the responses in here from the women do perpetuate the stereotype of the kind of men that black women go for ... honestly it sorta irked me how people were calling him soft and all other types of names ... this is the sort of brotha that should be celebrated not only cuz he wants to uplift his sistas but because he is very educated and has already accomplished alot

Well anyways I posted this vid on 2 other boards and most of those sistas loved it and him so please do not take some of the posts in here to be the majority cuz they are far from

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You make me feel bad. lol. He is celebrated. By you. He's celebrated by me. I just wouldn't date him. And i said i wouldn't set him up with any of my friends. Because they're kinda voracious and i'd feel they'd take advantage of him. Or try to because....he comes off as tender. I wouldn't feel right about it so i wouldn't do it.

Now if i had a ladyfriend like YOU who seems like this kind of fella? Man all day. But i don't. lol
 
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You make me feel bad. lol. He is celebrated. By you. He's celebrated by me. I just wouldn't date him. And i said i wouldn't set him up with any of my friends. Because they're kinda voracious and i'd feel they'd take advantage of him. Or try to because....he comes off as tender. I wouldn't feel right about it so i wouldn't do it.

Now if i had a ladyfriend like YOU who seems like this kind of fella? Man all day. But i don't. lol

Again, that says more about them than him. If someone is nice, and you purposely take advantage of that, that's a character flaw in you. Goes for men too. There are plenty of brothas who dog the nice eduated woman, and go for the hoodrat type chick. Wanna treat the chicken rat, or the fat white chick like royalty, but walk all over the queen who'll do anything for him.
 
Again, that says more about them than him. If someone is nice, and you purposely take advantage of that, that's a character flaw in you. Goes for men too. There are plenty of brothas who dog the nice eduated woman, and go for the hoodrat type chick. Wanna treat the chicken rat, or the fat white chick like royalty, but walk all over the queen who'll do anything for him.

Agreed.
 
Again, that says more about them than him. If someone is nice, and you purposely take advantage of that, that's a character flaw in you. Goes for men too. There are plenty of brothas who dog the nice eduated woman, and go for the hoodrat type chick. Wanna treat the chicken rat, or the fat white chick like royalty, but walk all over the queen who'll do anything for him.



What Queen who will do anything for him? :confused:
 
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You make me feel bad. lol. He is celebrated. By you. He's celebrated by me. I just wouldn't date him. And i said i wouldn't set him up with any of my friends. Because they're kinda voracious and i'd feel they'd take advantage of him. Or try to because....he comes off as tender. I wouldn't feel right about it so i wouldn't do it.

Now if i had a ladyfriend like YOU who seems like this kind of fella? Man all day. But i don't. lol


Sad.

*two cents*
 
again, I think you're missing what I'm saying. My point is, you judge his masculinity in 3 minutes, by one poem. I'm not saying Josh is hyper-masculine.

My question is, what's masculinity? What could he have done differently to be judge as masculine in your eyes?





Masculinity like somethings, is subjective. What you see here is a sample of how a diverse cross section of men, mostly African American I assume, feel about the situation. No one here assumes that their view is the only point of view on the topic of masculinity, and you should read the comments holding that assumption. It really would save a lot of the back in forth in here based on semantics.

Let me be honest, Dude is very talented, and probably a good brother personally, so my comments are nothing to degrade him, I am simply calling a spade a spade. I think it is not a good look to just blatantly patronize these chicks, speaking on behalf of black men. Why? Because all black man do not love like that! We express and show love in a myriad of ways. Dudes like this are like a friggin' soap opera, gassing these broads up, now they talking tough, and all full of themselves!

While I Love black women and I do desire to be with them if possible, I am still a man. My upbringing doesn't allow me to kow-tow to a person who blatantly tells me ALL DAY EVERY DAY that she DOESN'T feel the same way as far as exalting me in similar fashion.

"Black Men ain't shit" "Yo Daddy ain't shit" "Trifilin -ass niccas," shall I go on?

If you "expressive" fellows, and your like-minded, sisterhood cohorts, truly desire a reconciliation of the sexes, then how about honest, forthright dialog on the issues we have with each other minus the lamenting, and castigation towards the luke-warm response of your point of view?
 




Masculinity like somethings, is subjective. What you see here is a sample of how a diverse cross section of men, mostly African American I assume, feel about the situation. No one here assumes that their view is the only point of view on the topic of masculinity, and you should read the comments holding that assumption. It really would save a lot of the back in forth in here based on semantics.

Agreed.

Let me be honest, Dude is very talented, and probably a good brother personally,
I said the same. so my comments are nothing to degrade him, I am simply calling a spade a spade. I think it is not a good look to just blatantly patronize these chicks, speaking on behalf of black men. Why? Because all black man do not love like that! We express and show love in a myriad of ways. Dudes like this are like a friggin' soap opera, gassing these broads up, now they talking tough, and all full of themselves!

While I Love black women and I do desire to be with them if possible, I am still a man. My upbringing doesn't allow me to kow-tow to a person who blatantly tells me ALL DAY EVERY DAY that she DOESN'T feel the same way as far as exalting me in similar fashion.

"Black Men ain't shit" "Yo Daddy ain't shit" "Trifilin -ass niccas," shall I go on?

If you "expressive" fellows, and your like-minded, sisterhood cohorts, truly desire a reconciliation of the sexes, then how about honest, forthright dialog on the issues we have with each other minus the lamenting, and castigation towards the luke-warm response of your point of view?
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Thanks for your post.
 




Masculinity like somethings, is subjective. What you see here is a sample of how a diverse cross section of men, mostly African American I assume, feel about the situation. No one here assumes that their view is the only point of view on the topic of masculinity, and you should read the comments holding that assumption. It really would save a lot of the back in forth in here based on semantics.

Let me be honest, Dude is very talented, and probably a good brother personally, so my comments are nothing to degrade him, I am simply calling a spade a spade. I think it is not a good look to just blatantly patronize these chicks, speaking on behalf of black men. Why? Because all black man do not love like that! We express and show love in a myriad of ways. Dudes like this are like a friggin' soap opera, gassing these broads up, now they talking tough, and all full of themselves!

While I Love black women and I do desire to be with them if possible, I am still a man. My upbringing doesn't allow me to kow-tow to a person who blatantly tells me ALL DAY EVERY DAY that she DOESN'T feel the same way as far as exalting me in similar fashion.

"Black Men ain't shit" "Yo Daddy ain't shit" "Trifilin -ass niccas," shall I go on?

If you "expressive" fellows, and your like-minded, sisterhood cohorts, truly desire a reconciliation of the sexes, then how about honest, forthright dialog on the issues we have with each other minus the lamenting, and castigation towards the luke-warm response of your point of view?

So he shouldn't write a poem about black women being beautiful cuz a few of them say "men aint shit"??

lmaoooooo

Yeah you are right, not all of you love like him ... he has the strength to look past the bullshit to uplift the good women instead of further continuing this negative cycle like some of you weaker ones are doing

Right now it is soooooooooo cool to bash black women, tell us how undesirable we are, how fat and ugly we are ... this brotha is moving to the beat of his own drum and isn't a hateful sheep like too many of you

I think that is why you are mad and calling him soft ... cuz honestly he is more man than many many of you and you know it
 
So he shouldn't write a poem about black women being beautiful cuz a few of them say "men aint shit"??

lmaoooooo

Yeah you are right, not all of you love like him ... he has the strength to look past the bullshit to uplift the good women instead of further continuing this negative cycle like some of you weaker ones are doing

Right now it is soooooooooo cool to bash black women, tell us how undesirable we are, how fat and ugly we are ... this brotha is moving to the beat of his own drum and isn't a hateful sheep like too many of you

I think that is why you are mad and calling him soft ... cuz honestly he is more man than many many of you and you know it

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And where did I say anything about a poem, toots? Methinks you are just a youngin in need of some grown man direction. Just misguided, thats why you sass so.

My issues runs deeper than a G*d damn poem. Personally I could care less if you agree with me or not, and by the way I don't get mad, I get Angry.:angry:








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Agreed.

I said the same. so my comments are nothing to degrade him, I am simply calling a spade a spade. I think it is not a good look to just blatantly patronize these chicks, speaking on behalf of black men. Why? Because all black man do not love like that! We express and show love in a myriad of ways. Dudes like this are like a friggin' soap opera, gassing these broads up, now they talking tough, and all full of themselves!

While I Love black women and I do desire to be with them if possible, I am still a man. My upbringing doesn't allow me to kow-tow to a person who blatantly tells me ALL DAY EVERY DAY that she DOESN'T feel the same way as far as exalting me in similar fashion.

"Black Men ain't shit" "Yo Daddy ain't shit" "Trifilin -ass niccas," shall I go on?

If you "expressive" fellows, and your like-minded, sisterhood cohorts, truly desire a reconciliation of the sexes, then how about honest, forthright dialog on the issues we have with each other minus the lamenting, and castigation towards the luke-warm response of your point of view? [/COLOR][/FONT][/B]

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Thank you. :)
 
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And where did I say anything about a poem, toots? Methinks you are just a youngin in need of some grown man direction. Just misguided, thats why you sass so.

My issues runs deeper than a G*d damn poem. Personally I could care less if you agree with me or not, and by the way I don't get mad, I get Angry.:angry:

So basically you are insulting his manhood cuz you cant get a grip of your man emotions ... gotcha!!!

And LMAO @ sass so" ... what are you 80?? smh
 
Y'all are diggin way too deep with this one fam. Joshua Bennett loves black women. Joshua Bennett wrote a poem praising and exalting black women. Joshua Bennett appreciates black women and can express so even though he knows that they are not perfect. No one is.

When did it become wrong to express your love for the black woman? Cuz in my book, there is no other race of woman that will compare to a black woman.

 
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