10 Reasons The Next Xbox Will Launch In 2009

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Ten Reasons why the Xbox 720 will launch in 2009

An Australian gaming website has put forward an article which explains why they believe the next Xbox will go on sale in 2009, meaning that the current Xbox 360 will follow a normal four year lifespan just like the original Xbox. Their logic for this belief is the following - 1) The Xbox 360 is unreliable 2) The Xbox 360 has a three year warranty 3) Xbox 360 dragged its feet on wireless guitars 4) Xbox 360 doesn't HDMI as standard 5) Xbox 360 doesn't have a hard drive as standard 6) No WiFi as standard 7) Limited to DVD for games storage 8) It is ugly and loud 9) Failing in Japan and 10) Microsoft, and everyone else, considers the Xbox disposable.

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The hypothesis of this article is simple: that the Xbox 360 will have a four-year lifespan just like its predecessor, and that its successor will be rushed to market. That the next Xbox, whatever it is called, will go on sale in the US, Europe, and Japan in time for Christmas 2009, and will arrive in Australia and New Zealand in March 2010.

Why would Microsoft do that? Why would the mighty 360 be abandoned? It has a substantial install base, a healthy attach rate, and an online service second to none. Yet there are flaws so glaring that the engineers and marketers responsible could be forgiven for wanting to sweep it under the rug, and just pretend it never happened.

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10 Reasons The Next Xbox Will Launch In 2009

We follow the clues, and they all lead to a rushed release.


by: James Cottee 10/10/2007

The hypothesis of this article is simple: that the Xbox 360 will have a four-year lifespan just like its predecessor, and that its successor will be rushed to market. That the next Xbox, whatever it is called, will go on sale in the US, Europe, and Japan in time for Christmas 2009, and will arrive in Australia and New Zealand in March 2010.

Why would Microsoft do that? Why would the mighty 360 be abandoned? It has a substantial install base, a healthy attach rate, and an online service second to none. Yet there are flaws so glaring that the engineers and marketers responsible could be forgiven for wanting to sweep it under the rug, and just pretend it never happened.

What reasons could Microsoft possibly have? We’re glad you asked. Without further ado, we present…

The Top Ten Reasons Why The Next Xbox Will Be Rushed To Market.

1: The Xbox 360 is unreliable.
This is the big one. For most consumer appliances, the thought of system failure rarely creeps beyond the back of your mind. A typical TV, toaster, microwave, or alarm clock can be expected to last a decade or more. Even games consoles usually become obsolete long before they conk out.

But the Xbox 360 turned that upside down. For this console, malfunctions are endemic, and inevitable – just turning it on is like playing Russian Roulette. Will it fail to turn on? Will it gouge my game disc? Will it explode? These thoughts plague every 360 owner, every start-up, every day.

Sure, improvements are being introduced in new machines rolling off the line, and heat sinks are grafted onto its smouldering innards during warranty repairs. And to be fair, they’ve been pretty speedy fixing busted units. But it is too little, too late. The Frankensteins at Microsoft have created a monster.

2: The Xbox 360 has a three-year warranty.
Which brings us to our second clue: the three-year retroactive warranty now in place for all Xbox 360 owners. It was a big decision, putting that warranty plan into place. Console owners now need pay nothing for repairs in the first three years of a 360’s life. It’s estimated this scheme will ultimately cost Microsoft over one billion American dollars.

And billion-dollar decisions are not taken lightly.

A lot of time and thought went into choosing that number. Why not two years? Why not four? Why not a ‘lifetime’ warranty? The simplest answer may well be that three years is the effective lifetime of the Xbox 360. Beyond that, the world will have moved on…

3: The Xbox 360 Dragged Its Feet On Wireless Guitars.
Home music games are only going to become more important as time goes by. SingStar, Guitar Hero, and soon Rock Band bring the illusion of collaborative music creation to the living room. Music games need novelty controllers, and novelty controllers need wireless.

Yet Microsoft has been reluctant – very reluctant – to let anyone else create wireless controllers for the 360. It is a bitter irony that a system that from day one has been promoted as having wireless controllers as standard forced gamers to settle for wired guitars, while the PS2 version of Guitar Hero II enjoys wireless support. Only the impending mega-blockbuster release of Guitar Hero III was enough to twist Microsoft’s arm.

These decisions aren’t so much about technological limits as saving face. Ergo, there is unlikely to be a change to this policy during the current hardware generation. Concordantly, Microsoft will have yet another reason to speed things along and roll out the next model.

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The Xbox 360 Doesn’t Have HDMI as standard.
High-def is still expensive. Very expensive. Unless you’re a merchant banker, a commodities trader, or a plumber, $3000 for a new telly is still a lot of money. Aware of the price sensitivities of the vast American (and, by association, western) multitudes, far-eastern telly manufacturers are presently gearing up to make high-def affordable.

This new wave of cheap flat screens will arrive sooner than you think. Don’t be terribly surprised if Christmas ’09 sees the debut of LCD 1080p screens for under $1000. HDMI will come standard on all those sets, along with digital TV receivers. The rip-off merchants that make HDMI cables may even bring the price down by then, too.

The point is, HDMI will be standard. And right now, that particular socket is not standard on Xbox 360s. Even if it was, 720p is still the de-facto resolution for 360 output; 1080p wasn’t part of the console’s original vision, and only added later via a firmware update.

5: The Xbox 360 doesn’t have a hard drive as standard.
This one really is baffling. Hard drives aren’t that expensive any more. You don’t even pay a dollar a gig. Yet Microsoft chose to design a console without a HDD as a standard option. It was actually a step down from the original Xbox.

Not only that, but the available hard drive is proprietary, and you can’t swap them around like memory cards – you can only have one. Compare that to the PS3, which lets you bung in any hard drive you like. Sizes will continue to increase, costs will go down, and Sony has future-proofed its console against this trend.

Meanwhile, a 20-gig drive on 360 has barely enough room for your maps and save files.

Make no mistake, hard drives and downloadable content aren’t the future – they’re the present. TiVo will be starting in Australia soon, legitimising what trend-setting down-loaders have been doing for years.

PlayTV will help PS3 ride this new media wave.

Meanwhile, the Xbox 360 is flailing in the backwash, covered in bluebottles.

6: The Xbox 360 doesn’t have Wi-Fi as standard.
This is another big one. Even if you don’t wear one of those effeminate Star Trek-style earphones with your mobile, you will be well aware of the wireless revolution. Even the Wii has Wi-Fi, but the 360 requires a $170 add-on just to connect to the net without a tether.

There are health & safety considerations, too. Penny Arcade readers will recall the fate of Gabe and Tycho’s friend Jim, who got tangled in the cords behind their telly and never escaped. His skeletal remains are a grim reminder of the plastic shackles of 20th century technology.

Gamers, unite! You have nothing to lose but your chains.

7: The Xbox 360 is limited to DVD for games storage.
Mass storage will only become more important as high-def content in games and movies becomes standard. Sure, you can download a Geometry Wars or a Space Giraffe in a snap. For 50 gig games, that isn’t really feasible. DVD doesn’t really cut it, either. Lost Odyssey will come on four discs.

Whether it’s Blu-ray, HD-DVD, or even a new proprietary 12cm disc format, the consoles of the near future will need high-capacity storage like never before.

8:
The Xbox 360 is ugly and loud.
Some useful euphemisms: inelegant, homely, plain, haphazard, and asymmetrical. The truth: the Xbox 360 is not a beautiful machine. Certainly not as pretty as its competitors. The PS3 is a mighty obelisk, the Wii sleek and functional. The 360 just doesn’t have the same kind of class; like the nouveaux riche at the gentleman’s club. Like the ghetto resident in his gold chains. It just doesn’t look the part.

Its physical size is also a turn-off – it’s still basically just a PC in a different case. All the removable face-plates in the world can’t conceal that fact.

Then there’s the ring. The ring of LEDs, now synonymous with the dreaded triple-red-light malfunction indicator of death. Even when the system is working perfectly, those lights are a reminder of failure. They have to go – and the only way to get rid of them is to start from scratch.

Oh, we almost forgot – the 360 is the noisiest video game console ever made. It grinds, it whirs, it grunts, and it does its level best to drown out whatever game you’re playing. The noise issue is definitely a ‘do over.’

9: The Xbox 360 is failing in Japan.
Perhaps the greatest technical strength of the 360 is the ease with which programmers can port games across from PC. Aside from pornographic dating simulators, PC gaming is virtually non-existent in Japan, meaning that Japanese developers and consumers have approximately zero compelling reasons to devote their time and money to the system.

For all the arguments listed above, and more, the Xbox just isn’t gelling with Japanese consumers. The first Xbox, being big, ugly, and foreign, rubbed the xenophobic, space-conscious Japanese consumer entirely the wrong way. The 360 has fared little better.

Even before the 360 went on sale, Microsoft execs were saying they didn’t expect to succeed in the Japanese market until Xbox version 3.0. The first two systems were just warming up. They admit it. The century to date has been spent carefully building up relationships with developers like Capcom, with the occasional hit like Dead Rising being the result.

Is it worth succeeding in the single largest video game market in the world? Yes. Yes, it is. Yet the Japanese demand a system that is elegant, refined, has loads of locally-made games, and will actually fit in their tiny wooden houses.

The 360 fails on all those counts. Its successor may yet succeed.

10:
Microsoft, and everyone else, considers the Xbox disposable.
There was a lot of talk about the old Xbox being supported after the introduction of the 360. Microsoft would still support it, stores would still support it, there’d still be new games coming out, and it would evolve into a entry-level cousin of the 360, just like the PSone had co-existed with the PS2.

But that’s all it was – talk. Once the 360 arrived, the games industry dropped Xbox 1 like a hot potato.

Why? That’s the way Microsoft works. It’s a company that has made countless billions by endlessly rolling out new and (supposedly) improved products, making arbitrary changes to consign older software to the dustbin of history (with the exception of Notepad – you can’t improve on perfection). Microsoft makes money not by producing superior technology, but by forcing people to upgrade.

The folks at Microsoft are in the business of making their own products obsolete. They do it very well. Whether it’s Office, Windows, or an Xbox, it’s doomed as soon as it goes on sale. Sure, other companies do the same thing. It’s just Microsoft is better at it.


…So, there you have it. It’s just a theory, of course. But the Xbox 360 is an imperfect console in a changing world. Microsoft’s hand may be forced sooner than any of us expect. Let’s just hope that the next Xbox, whatever it is, and whenever it arrives, finally fixes all these nagging problems, and earns its rightful place in the home console pantheon.

What do you reckon? When do you think the next Xbox will go on sale? Have your say in the forums.

http://www.gameplayer.com.au/Home/F...4d9b4e5-ecf3-48cf-bf20-a8eadba014f7&v7Pager=1
 
I agree with all of this. You knew MS was gonna be on some dumb shit when they killed the first Xbox like that. If you bought the Xbox 1 at LAUNCH then you only got 4 years and then BAM new system, old one is dead. Hell the 360 is only at 11 million right now and MS is acting like they're the shit. Hell the Wii is already damn near caught up and the PS3 is catching steam and will start a fuckin inferno from this November on. Xbox-2001, 360-2005, Xbox 3-2009 or 10 = 3 systems in less than a fuckin decade. And you see why people said MS shouldn't hop in the VG industry? They're treating this shit like it's fuckin Windows.
 
here is the response my boy sent me this morning via email

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Dude, don't believe the hype. That article is written by a Playstation fanboy. Every point has been argued out on the forums of every game website since the 360 launched.It reads just like every anti 360 post I've ever read.

There are some valid points, but the 360 is a solid platform unlike the original Xbox. Even with the unreliable hardware.. The 360's library is light years ahead of what the original Xbox had, why would they complicate things when their platform is the easiest to develop HD content for?

Also with the way they are coming out with the multiple SKU's they really don't need to cut anything short, they will just make a new version of the 360..I just read somewhere today that the new motherboard spec will be released in August of 2008, so releasing a new Xbox the next year would just be retarded.

That site is just trying to get page hits.
 
I agree with all of this. You knew MS was gonna be on some dumb shit when they killed the first Xbox like that. If you bought the Xbox 1 at LAUNCH then you only got 4 years and then BAM new system, old one is dead. Hell the 360 is only at 11 million right now and MS is acting like they're the shit. Hell the Wii is already damn near caught up and the PS3 is catching steam and will start a fuckin inferno from this November on. Xbox-2001, 360-2005, Xbox 3-2009 or 10 = 3 systems in less than a fuckin decade. And you see why people said MS shouldn't hop in the VG industry? They're treating this shit like it's fuckin Windows.

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@Topic, not entirely credible, one of the facts they used is because they don't have wireless guitar controllers???:hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm: Get serious...

It's also ugly and loud.. Again :hmm::hmm::hmm:

It's warranty...:hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm:

Non-standard hard drive and complains about hard drive size... Again :hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm:
The hard drive practically does come standard, and if you buy a 360 without one your just plain stupid... Also when was this article written if it complains about hard drive size when they have a 120gb hard drive out...:hmm::hmm::hmm:

Wifi as standard I kinda agree on this one, would be better if you didn't have to buy it, but it's funny that the article is mentioning the Wii has Wifi standard.. On that same token though, if we're talking about making you buy things just for the sake of taking your money, the Wii controller comes in two parts, two parts wtf is that.... They don't sell them together they make you buy them seperately, and most games require you to use both parts so don't talk about ripping people for money...

I think people should be more worried about the Wii's lifetime span, graphics are not everything, but having very low quality graphics(even by today's standards)in 4-5 years is not going to be a good look..

All in all, I think anyone can admit this is just a 360 hating article, not an article on facts, but trying to scrape together anything to make it sound bad.. If the article writer decided to make an article about the PS3, or the Wii, they could find as much or more things to write about...

Bashing article based on sillyness instead of merit, case closed...

<Edit> Jagi beat me to it.
 
Good post. Microsoft lucked out by being the 1st out of the gate, but all the machine failures and lack of storage( I told ya'll this was going to eventually become an issue) is beginning to catch up with it. With only Halo 3 as its ace in the hole, Microsoft may actually end this generation with a thud. Oh yeah all game companies start work on their next systems when the latest system drops.
 
1: The Xbox 360 is unreliable.
But the Xbox 360 turned that upside down. For this console, malfunctions are endemic, and inevitable – just turning it on is like playing Russian Roulette. Will it fail to turn on? Will it gouge my game disc? Will it explode? These thoughts plague every 360 owner, every start-up, every day.

Co-Sign like a muthafucka!!!!
 
I got a Xbox and I just bought a Playstation 3.The PS3 is better in my opinion.They just don't have any games out right now but you can play your PS2 games on the PS3 so waiting for new games isn't a problem.
 
I got a Xbox and I just bought a Playstation 3.The PS3 is better in my opinion.They just don't have any games out right now but you can play your PS2 games on the PS3 so waiting for new games isn't a problem.

Nobody buys current generation consoles to play prior generation games. Quit lying to yourself. Just say that u regret buying that Blu Ray DVD player, and that you should have waited until they make it able to play current gen games. There, I said it 4 you!
 
Nobody buys current generation consoles to play prior generation games. Quit lying to yourself. Just say that u regret buying that Blu Ray DVD player, and that you should have waited until they make it able to play current gen games. There, I said it 4 you!
I bought 4 PS3 games and I play my old PS2 games on it but more PS3 games will eventually come out.The system is nice.No batteries for the controller,free online gaming,browse the net on your t.v,blu ray player,It's quiet,doesn't need to be charged,sufficient amount of memory,doesn't overheat etc. It doesn't have as many games as the Xbox right now but in the future,the PS3 will probably be the better system.No regrets here.I used to think the Xbox was the shit because of the amount of games they had but don't let people brainwash you about the PS3 because they can't afford it.This shit is off the hook! Don't knock it unless you try it.
 
The original poster is a faggot.
They need to create a video game subforum where fat, greasy faced, no pussy getting geeks can argue all day about which system is better. Enjoy whatever system you have an keep it moving.
 
I bought 4 PS3 games and I play my old PS2 games on it but more PS3 games will eventually come out.The system is nice.No batteries for the controller,free online gaming,browse the net on your t.v,blu ray player,It's quiet,doesn't need to be charged,sufficient amount of memory etc. It doesn't have as many games as the Xbox right now but in the future,the PS3 will probably be the better system.No regrets here.
The better system has the better games, it wont be PS3
 
Good post. Microsoft lucked out by being the 1st out of the gate, but all the machine failures and lack of storage( I told ya'll this was going to eventually become an issue) is beginning to catch up with it. With only Halo 3 as its ace in the hole, Microsoft may actually end this generation with a thud. Oh yeah all game companies start work on their next systems when the latest system drops.

co-sign.
I bought a 360 cos ps3 was delayed in europe. Now I have a ps3 and I see it outlasting the 360 by far.
real talk. Ilike the way sony is still supporting the hellout of the ps2 which has sold over 100,000,000(yes 8 zeros) units.
most ppl that had that will eventuall get a ps3 when the price is right.
 
here is the response my boy sent me this morning via email

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Dude, don't believe the hype. That article is written by a Playstation fanboy. Every point has been argued out on the forums of every game website since the 360 launched.It reads just like every anti 360 post I've ever read.

There are some valid points, but the 360 is a solid platform unlike the original Xbox. Even with the unreliable hardware.. The 360's library is light years ahead of what the original Xbox had, why would they complicate things when their platform is the easiest to develop HD content for?

Also with the way they are coming out with the multiple SKU's they really don't need to cut anything short, they will just make a new version of the 360..I just read somewhere today that the new motherboard spec will be released in August of 2008, so releasing a new Xbox the next year would just be retarded.

That site is just trying to get page hits.

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I fell you
i had my 360 over a year. true i dont like the look. but i like how they marketed the add oons. Like hd dvd player hard drive.
because you have some poor mother cant afford the play station. so 300 is better then paying 600 for a ps3.

thye only thing i say they should have included the hdmi in the first units
 
The better system has the better games, it wont be PS3
When the Playstation 2 came out it was the same story.It cost a lot of money and didn't have that many games but over time Sony came out with a ton of great games.I got both systems but I don't see what the hype is with Xbox? and why people bash the PS3? :dunno: I'm guessing people hate because they can't afford it.
 
The original poster is a faggot.
They need to create a video game subforum where fat, greasy faced, no pussy getting geeks can argue all day about which system is better. Enjoy whatever system you have an keep it moving.

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yyeeeaeaaahhhh ok
 
who says the ps3 looks good? it looks terrible to me. the 360 looks way better with my decor wonderfully. though it is loud.
 
That was back in 2000. Technology just costs more nowadays.
No Sony is trying to force people to accept their blu-ray disc over HD-dvd. When the PS2 came out there was uniform standard with DVD(which was already three years old) so they could eat the cost of including a DVD player in the machine.
 
why people keep talking about 360 got more games. that chapters gone. shit was relevant in march. now this statements only relevant if you playing old games.now each system basically putting out the same games unless its being developed by their company's teams.
better games? 360s been out two years... all i can think of is g.o.w. and now halo3(both shooters uhhhhh)
600 dollars get over it!electronics are high you get what you pay for plain and simple.
i got my ps3 in february cause i felt confident in the hardware , backwards compatibility and games( blu rays a bonus really don't use it. will when the software gets cheaper.)october no problems still confident.
don't know or care if the article was written by a fanboy. it got some good points. the three year warranty got me and seems to make sense in microsoft business terms.
 
who says the ps3 looks good? it looks terrible to me. the 360 looks way better with my decor wonderfully. though it is loud.

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#1 reason is the DVD capacity and the number 2 reason is that the 360 has a five year life cycle like everything else microsoft makes. The only reason the original Xbox was killed of so early is the dispute with the video card maker. The could never get the cost of the system down. Most huge developers stated that the DVD drive on the XBox will be too small by 2009. This will turn the PS3 into the development system of choice. A new system would also reduce Sony profit margin by forcing them to come out with a new system.
 
When the Playstation 2 came out it was the same story.It cost a lot of money and didn't have that many games but over time Sony came out with a ton of great games.I got both systems but I don't see what the hype is with Xbox? and why people bash the PS3? :dunno: I'm guessing people hate because they can't afford it.

man they've been literally bashing the ps3 on this board since this time last year..question is halo 3 must not be that good b/c they still find time to hop on here in bash. :dunno:
 
#1 reason is the DVD capacity and the number 2 reason is that the 360 has a five year life cycle like everything else microsoft makes. The only reason the original Xbox was killed of so early is the dispute with the video card maker. The could never get the cost of the system down. Most huge developers stated that the DVD drive on the XBox will be too small by 2009. This will turn the PS3 into the development system of choice. A new system would also reduce Sony profit margin by forcing them to come out with a new system.


Where does that leave the Wii??? If huge developers move to Blu-Ray, i guess there will be more fitness games and minigame collections.
 
Hell the 360 is only at 11 million right now and MS is acting like they're the shit. Hell the Wii is already damn near caught up and the PS3 is catching steam and will start a fuckin inferno from this November on.


well actually the wii was doing better than both the xbox360 and ps3 in sell's.
the only reason the sell's dropped was because they didint put out enough systems (mainly due to the fact that they thought the system wouldnt be a hit).
at first the ps3 was hard to find...but their all in stock now
its the wii thats hard to find.
bottom line is wii won the battle so far as far as popularity.

nintendo made their system for the fans.
xbox and sony made their system fo personal braggin rights (thats why both had so many flaws).
i was going to buy a ps3 and a xbox360 withen the next few months, but after hearing and reading info about the systems, and look at the LOW number of good game that BOTH consoles have put out, im going to wait longer.
i might grab that wii first because ive played some of the sports games, and the system & controller is real nice.

as far as them bringing out another system in 09'
who really cares.
if they do bring out another system in a short amount of time, then expect more fuck ups...and more garbage titles.
like somebody said before me, the reason xbox sold the amount they sold was because they got a very nice headstart.
therefore look for the same tactic again.....and be prepared for more fuck ups and drama.


When the Playstation 2 came out it was the same story.It cost a lot of money and didn't have that many games but over time Sony came out with a ton of great games.I got both systems but I don't see what the hype is with Xbox? and why people bash the PS3? :dunno: I'm guessing people hate because they can't afford it.



i call it fanboy lameness.
if your a fan of a system fine, but when you go out your way to bash and spend hours googling/looking up facts on why the other system is bad compared to the system you brought, then you have become a grown man dick rida.
micosoft and sony pay people to do comparisons for them....other goofs do it for free :confused:
 
Where does that leave the Wii??? If huge developers move to Blu-Ray, i guess there will be more fitness games and minigame collections.

It leaves the Wii in the same spot it's always been in. A system for people that love games. It doesn't have to be pretty deep or long. It just has to be fun. The type of fun we had back in the day playing pacman. The huge developers need Blu-Ray space to take full advantage of the high end systems and hi-def graphics. Think of the PS3 and 360 as the mercedes and BMW's. You love them and you pack them with the latest technology. It's what you enjoy driving alone. You expect the most because you are paying the money for it. The Wii is the Tahoe or the minivan. It doesn't have the best of everything but you can configure it from basic to luxery. It's what you pile the friends and family in when you want to have real fun. Not the best looking car on the block but the one that does it all.
 
man they've been literally bashing the ps3 on this board since this time last year..question is halo 3 must not be that good b/c they still find time to hop on here in bash. :dunno:

Trash systems get trash comments... After seeing this article you can't even being to talk about any PS3 bashing... People came on here and saw a frivolous argument against the 360 and you had a bunch of people co-signing even though majority of the things on the list were basically made up...
 
Counterpoint: Why The Next Xbox Will Not Launch In 2009


By Fel Martins
Posted on Oct 10, 2007
I'm a big fan of lists. and it seems that gameplayer.com is as well. They just recently published an article titled 10 Reasons The Next Xbox Will Launch In 2009. The excuses for such were pretty lackluster, in my opinion, and seemed rather fanboyish. (No, I'm not a 360 fanboy. Anyone from PS3informer can vouch for me) So, I'll be publishing their points and why I disagree with them.



1: The Xbox 360 is unreliable.
True, but instead of rolling out a new console, why not just fix the current one with a new motherboard? Fixing the problems on the 360 is a lot more cost effective than introducing a new console and the consumers won't feel as cheated since they get free repairs.
2: The Xbox 360 has a three-year warranty.
“the three-year retroactive warranty now in place for all Xbox 360 owners. It was a big decision, putting that warranty plan into place. Console owners now need pay nothing for repairs in the first three years of a 360’s life. It’s estimated this scheme will ultimately cost Microsoft over one billion American dollars. And billion-dollar decisions are not taken lightly. A lot of time and thought went into choosing that number. Why not two years? Why not four? Why not a ‘lifetime’ warranty? The simplest answer may well be that three years is the effective lifetime of the Xbox 360. Beyond that, the world will have moved on…”
Or enough time to get that previously mentioned motherboard into stores. 360 launched in 05, the new motherboard will be here around August of 08. If there was a new console coming next year, we'd heard about it by now.
3: The Xbox 360 Dragged Its Feet On Wireless Guitars.
You don’t roll out a new system just to enable wireless support for a few guitars. MS could just as easily let devs use their proprietary wireless for free.
4: The Xbox 360 Doesn’t Have HDMI as standard.
“This new wave of cheap flat screens will arrive sooner than you think. Don’t be terribly surprised if Christmas ’09 sees the debut of LCD 1080p screens for under $1000. HDMI will come standard on all those sets, along with digital TV receivers. The rip-off merchants that make HDMI cables may even bring the price down by then, too.
The point is, HDMI will be standard. And right now, that particular socket is not standard on Xbox 360s. Even if it was, 720p is still the de-facto resolution for 360 output; 1080p wasn’t part of the console’s original vision, and only added later via a firmware update.”
Assuming the new TVs will not allow for either composite or component then, yes, this would be a problem. But since crazy fanboy land is not part of the real world, there doesn't seem to be a problem.

5: The Xbox 360 doesn’t have a hard drive as standard.
Their entire point is moot because a person can easily add a HDD to their console. 20 gig not enough? buy the 120 gig HDD. (albeit at an inflated price due to having to buy specialized HDDs for the 360.)

6: The Xbox 360 doesn’t have Wi-Fi as standard.
Cry me a river. You can easily buy a Wi-Fi adapter, you don’t need a whole new system for it.
“There are health & safety considerations, too. Penny Arcade readers will recall the fate of Gabe and Tycho’s friend Jim, who got tangled in the cords behind their telly and never escaped. His skeletal remains are a grim reminder of the plastic shackles of 20th century technology.”
Do these people know that Jim is a fictional character?
7: The Xbox 360 is limited to DVD for games storage.
This point might have some legs but we didn’t have a problem using multiple disks for the PS1 and I doubt we will here. The only problem is that there are games that’ll be very uncomfortable playing with 2 disks. (GTA would be an example of that. Having to switch disks for different cities would be a pain.)
8: The Xbox 360 is ugly and loud.
Much like your mom. I’m just playing, I’m sure she’s pretty. But who cares if the system is ugly? I’m not going to be staring at it when I’m playing games.
“Its physical size is also a turn-off – it’s still basically just a PC in a different case. All the removable face-plates in the world can’t conceal that fact.”
Neither the Xbox’s nor PS3's size bothers me because I’m not carrying it anywhere. And it’s a lot smaller than a PC.
“Then there’s the ring. The ring of LEDs, now synonymous with the dreaded triple-red-light malfunction indicator of death. Even when the system is working perfectly, those lights are a reminder of failure. They have to go – and the only way to get rid of them is to start from scratch.”
This should be up with point #1
“Oh, we almost forgot – the 360 is the noisiest video game console ever made. It grinds, it whirs, it grunts, and it does its level best to drown out whatever game you’re playing. The noise issue is definitely a ‘do over.’”
No need to start from scratch because a system is too noisy. Just use a better fan.
9: The Xbox 360 is failing in Japan.
I doubt rolling out an Xbox 5000 will change that. Japanese people like certain types of games. Games they can get more of on the DS, wii, PSP and PS3.

10: Microsoft, and everyone else, considers the Xbox disposable.
This one is just pure speculation.

”Why? That’s the way Microsoft works. It’s a company that has made countless billions by endlessly rolling out new and (supposedly) improved products, making arbitrary changes to consign older software to the dustbin of history (with the exception of Notepad – you can’t improve on perfection). Microsoft makes money not by producing superior technology, but by forcing people to upgrade.”
That’s just the way things go. Out with the old, in with the new. Nintendo has dropped support for all of its consoles once the newer ones hit the market. The Sega add-ons aside, Sony is the only company that supported its consoles even when a newer one was on the market. (ED-I'm wrong on this point. Thanks to the alert reader for point it out. I should've known better, being a DS owner myself.)
Microsoft is in the video game business to make money. They’ve even stated that unless they can make money this time around, they’re dropping out. Don’t fret. They’re expected to be in the black in 2008. All the more reason to stay longer rather than start all over again.
The only reason I can foresee Microsoft of launch another system in 2009-2010 would be if consumers flock toward the wii and disregard the 360 and PS3 completely. The third-party publishers and developers make a mass exodus to that platform and disregard the other two due to high development costs and small profit-margins. Keep in mind that this is the worst case scenario and I highly doubt this will happen given the 360s high hardware and software sales.



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Counterpoint: Why The Next Xbox Will Not Launch In 2009


By Fel Martins
Posted on Oct 10, 2007
I'm a big fan of lists. and it seems that gameplayer.com is as well. They just recently published an article titled 10 Reasons The Next Xbox Will Launch In 2009. The excuses for such were pretty lackluster, in my opinion, and seemed rather fanboyish. (No, I'm not a 360 fanboy. Anyone from PS3informer can vouch for me) So, I'll be publishing their points and why I disagree with them.



1: The Xbox 360 is unreliable.
True, but instead of rolling out a new console, why not just fix the current one with a new motherboard? Fixing the problems on the 360 is a lot more cost effective than introducing a new console and the consumers won't feel as cheated since they get free repairs.
2: The Xbox 360 has a three-year warranty.
“the three-year retroactive warranty now in place for all Xbox 360 owners. It was a big decision, putting that warranty plan into place. Console owners now need pay nothing for repairs in the first three years of a 360’s life. It’s estimated this scheme will ultimately cost Microsoft over one billion American dollars. And billion-dollar decisions are not taken lightly. A lot of time and thought went into choosing that number. Why not two years? Why not four? Why not a ‘lifetime’ warranty? The simplest answer may well be that three years is the effective lifetime of the Xbox 360. Beyond that, the world will have moved on…”
Or enough time to get that previously mentioned motherboard into stores. 360 launched in 05, the new motherboard will be here around August of 08. If there was a new console coming next year, we'd heard about it by now.
3: The Xbox 360 Dragged Its Feet On Wireless Guitars.
You don’t roll out a new system just to enable wireless support for a few guitars. MS could just as easily let devs use their proprietary wireless for free.
4: The Xbox 360 Doesn’t Have HDMI as standard.
“This new wave of cheap flat screens will arrive sooner than you think. Don’t be terribly surprised if Christmas ’09 sees the debut of LCD 1080p screens for under $1000. HDMI will come standard on all those sets, along with digital TV receivers. The rip-off merchants that make HDMI cables may even bring the price down by then, too.
The point is, HDMI will be standard. And right now, that particular socket is not standard on Xbox 360s. Even if it was, 720p is still the de-facto resolution for 360 output; 1080p wasn’t part of the console’s original vision, and only added later via a firmware update.”
Assuming the new TVs will not allow for either composite or component then, yes, this would be a problem. But since crazy fanboy land is not part of the real world, there doesn't seem to be a problem.

5: The Xbox 360 doesn’t have a hard drive as standard.
Their entire point is moot because a person can easily add a HDD to their console. 20 gig not enough? buy the 120 gig HDD. (albeit at an inflated price due to having to buy specialized HDDs for the 360.)

6: The Xbox 360 doesn’t have Wi-Fi as standard.
Cry me a river. You can easily buy a Wi-Fi adapter, you don’t need a whole new system for it.
“There are health & safety considerations, too. Penny Arcade readers will recall the fate of Gabe and Tycho’s friend Jim, who got tangled in the cords behind their telly and never escaped. His skeletal remains are a grim reminder of the plastic shackles of 20th century technology.”
Do these people know that Jim is a fictional character?
7: The Xbox 360 is limited to DVD for games storage.
This point might have some legs but we didn’t have a problem using multiple disks for the PS1 and I doubt we will here. The only problem is that there are games that’ll be very uncomfortable playing with 2 disks. (GTA would be an example of that. Having to switch disks for different cities would be a pain.)
8: The Xbox 360 is ugly and loud.
Much like your mom. I’m just playing, I’m sure she’s pretty. But who cares if the system is ugly? I’m not going to be staring at it when I’m playing games.
“Its physical size is also a turn-off – it’s still basically just a PC in a different case. All the removable face-plates in the world can’t conceal that fact.”
Neither the Xbox’s nor PS3's size bothers me because I’m not carrying it anywhere. And it’s a lot smaller than a PC.
“Then there’s the ring. The ring of LEDs, now synonymous with the dreaded triple-red-light malfunction indicator of death. Even when the system is working perfectly, those lights are a reminder of failure. They have to go – and the only way to get rid of them is to start from scratch.”
This should be up with point #1
“Oh, we almost forgot – the 360 is the noisiest video game console ever made. It grinds, it whirs, it grunts, and it does its level best to drown out whatever game you’re playing. The noise issue is definitely a ‘do over.’”
No need to start from scratch because a system is too noisy. Just use a better fan.
9: The Xbox 360 is failing in Japan.
I doubt rolling out an Xbox 5000 will change that. Japanese people like certain types of games. Games they can get more of on the DS, wii, PSP and PS3.

10: Microsoft, and everyone else, considers the Xbox disposable.
This one is just pure speculation.

”Why? That’s the way Microsoft works. It’s a company that has made countless billions by endlessly rolling out new and (supposedly) improved products, making arbitrary changes to consign older software to the dustbin of history (with the exception of Notepad – you can’t improve on perfection). Microsoft makes money not by producing superior technology, but by forcing people to upgrade.”
That’s just the way things go. Out with the old, in with the new. Nintendo has dropped support for all of its consoles once the newer ones hit the market. The Sega add-ons aside, Sony is the only company that supported its consoles even when a newer one was on the market. (ED-I'm wrong on this point. Thanks to the alert reader for point it out. I should've known better, being a DS owner myself.)
Microsoft is in the video game business to make money. They’ve even stated that unless they can make money this time around, they’re dropping out. Don’t fret. They’re expected to be in the black in 2008. All the more reason to stay longer rather than start all over again.
The only reason I can foresee Microsoft of launch another system in 2009-2010 would be if consumers flock toward the wii and disregard the 360 and PS3 completely. The third-party publishers and developers make a mass exodus to that platform and disregard the other two due to high development costs and small profit-margins. Keep in mind that this is the worst case scenario and I highly doubt this will happen given the 360s high hardware and software sales.



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:lol: @ #8

i remember MS saying that they need to start seeing profit but i dont recall them saying that they would drop out if they didnt make money.. not that it doesnt make sense just i dont recall them saying that
 
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