48÷2(9+3) = ????

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it's called simplification and it goes beyond adding 9 and 3.....this is why many have trouble with fractions. People do not understand what 'simplification' means...
 
Any source that correctly states you must Simplify when you're presented with a number in front of the Parenthesis. They teach that in 3rd Grade.


36 ÷ 2(3 + 6)

= 36 ÷ 2(9)

= 36 ÷ 18

= 2

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Why would you buy that calculator if you don't know how to use it, and you don't know basic math?

Because your calculator isnt Simplifying you fucking numskull...
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Isn't it time for two retards to go to bed?

My point was I input the problem exactly how it is written and the answer came out to be 288.

The videos you idiots are posting did the same thing but got a different answer :lol:.
 
Any source that correctly states you must Simplify when you're presented with a number in front of the Parenthesis. They teach that in 3rd Grade.


36 ÷ 2(3 + 6)

= 36 ÷ 2(9)

= 36 ÷ 18

= 2

the reason we keep on asking for sources is that a rule such as the one you all are proposing would be a very important one which means it would be extremely easy to find. Every rule i was taught in third grade shows up pretty easily in google. There is a difference between telling someone to simplify something and specifying the order in which that simplification must occur.
 
it's called simplification and it goes beyond adding 9 and 3.....this is why many have trouble with fractions. People do not understand what 'simplification' means...

Ive been saying it from the beginning, but these asshats aren't getting it. Its like they think Simplification is some type of myth or some shit. Crazy.
 
the reason we keep on asking for sources is that a rule such as the one you all are proposing would be a very important one which means it would be extremely easy to find. Every rule i was taught in third grade shows up pretty easily in google. There is a difference between telling someone to simplify something and specifying the order in which that simplification must occur.

Here you go.. Ive only posted it 100x.

http://www.algebrahelp.com/lessons/simplifying/distribution/
 
So Implied multiplication has higher precedence over regular multiplication and division???
Im going to say its 288 and 2

Implied Multiplication and TI Calculators

Date: 05/02/2008 at 09:24:12
From: Rob
Subject: Multiplying parenthetical phrases and order of operations

I have found that depending on how I type an expression into my TI-85,
it comes out with two different answers. If I type 36/6(25-11*2), the
answer comes out to be 2. However, if I type 36/6*(25-11*2), the
answer comes out to be 18. The difference is whether I put the
multiplication symbol between the 6 and the parenthesis or not.

I've been under the impression this should make no difference; with or
without the symbol, a number up snug against the parenthesis still
implies a multiplication symbol. Help?


Date: 05/02/2008 at 13:20:22
From: Doctor Peterson
Subject: Re: Multiplying parenthetical phrases and order of operations

Hi, Rob.

Your two expressions in the calculator are

36 / 6 ( 25 - 11 * 2 )

and

36 / 6 * ( 25 - 11 * 2 )

The problem is that some calculators that allow multiplications to
be implied as in the former case treat that as a higher precedence
operation (as some algebra texts say), while others treat all
multiplications alike (as most texts do, in my experience). You can
read a little about that here:

Order of Operations
http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/54341.html

That has a bad link to TI's site; a current version can be found by
going to their Knowledge Base and searching for "implied
multiplication". Here is a quote:

Solution 11773: Implied Multiplication Versus Explicit
Multiplication on TI Graphing Calculators.

Does implied multiplication and explicit multiplication have the
same precedence on TI graphing calculators?

Implied multiplication has a higher priority than explicit
multiplication to allow users to enter expressions, in the same
manner as they would be written. For example, the TI-80, TI-81,
TI-82, and TI-85 evaluate 1/2X as 1/(2*X), while other products
may evaluate the same expression as 1/2*X from left to right.
Without this feature, it would be necessary to group 2X in
parentheses, something that is typically not done when writing
the expression on paper.

This order of precedence was changed for the TI-83 family, TI-84
Plus family, TI-89 family, TI-92 Plus, Voyage™ 200 and the
TI-Nspire™ Handheld in TI-84 Plus Mode. Implied and explicit
multiplication are given the same priority.

If you have any further questions, feel free to write back.


- Doctor Peterson, The Math Forum
http://mathforum.org/dr.math/
 
it's called simplification and it goes beyond adding 9 and 3.....this is why many have trouble with fractions. People do not understand what 'simplification' means...

I don´t think that is the case. The people that disagree with you don´t have any problems understanding the semantics of simplication and how it applies to mathematics.

To get a solution of 2, one must assume a single term for [2(9+3)].

Because otherwise, the order of operations is from left to right once you compute inside the parenthesis as the distribution holds the same weight as multiplication in the order of operations because the distributive property is multiplication.

But followup, that is not how the equation is written.
 
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Isn't it time for two retards to go to bed?

My point was I input the problem exactly how it is written and the answer came out to be 288.

The videos you idiots are posting did the same thing but got a different answer :lol:.

You can't do that idiot. When you use a calculator you are essentially programming an answer. You have to understand basic math, and the procedures to input the problems before using a calculator. They don't think for you.
 
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Isn't it time for two retards to go to bed?

My point was I input the problem exactly how it is written and the answer came out to be 288.

The videos you idiots are posting did the same thing but got a different answer :lol:.

You and a-hole18 should go to bed then homes..


The problem is written, and waiting to be simplified... Then evaluated. Slow fucks like yourself dont understand the concept and think everyone else is slow... But hey, retards dont know they're retarded. :dunno:
 
http://www.math.com/school/subject2/practice/S2U1L2/S2U1L2Pract.html

This is the problem I just got on math.com 79/48*4= 6.58 was the answer from left to right. 48/2*12= 288


Example 3: Evaluate 9 - 5 ÷ (8 - 3) x 2 + 6 using the order of operations.

Solution: Step 1: 9 - 5 ÷ (8 - 3) x 2 + 6 = 9 - 5 ÷ 5 x 2 + 6 Parentheses
Step 2: 9 - 5 ÷ 5 x 2 + 6 = 9 - 1 x 2 + 6 Division
Step 3: 9 - 1 x 2 + 6 = 9 - 2 + 6 Multiplication
Step 4: 9 - 2 + 6 = 7 + 6 Subtraction
Step 5: 7 + 6 = 13 Addition

http://www.mathgoodies.com/Lessons/vol7/order_operations.html
 
nope....by placing those parentheses there, you prioritized what needs to be done...
36÷2(9) is not the same as 36÷2*9
36÷2(9) = 2
36÷2*9 = 162

seriously, there is nothing to simplify with the 9.

(9) = 9

2(9) = 2 * 9

so 36 ÷ 2(9) = 36 ÷ 2 * 9
 
You can't do that idiot. When you use a calculator you are essentially programming an answer. You have to understand basic math, and the procedures to input the problems before using a calculator. They don't think for you.

Keep proving my point , Damn you dumb.

That is what I said! hence the videos ppl posted prove nothing.
 
start here: http://www.uiowa.edu/~examserv/mathmatters/tutorial_quiz/algebra/solvinglinearequ.html

start here: http://www.uiowa.edu/~examserv/mathmatters/tutorial_quiz/algebra/solvinglinearequ.html

1/2(2+3) certainly DOES equal 1/2(5)...both of them have parentheses so those equations must be solved first....same as in the original equation...get rid of the parentheses THEN you can divide.

start here: http://www.uiowa.edu/~examserv/mathmatters/tutorial_quiz/algebra/solvinglinearequ.html

what you typed here is not equivalent to what's in the original equation. A better example is the following:
x(y) and x(y+z)...they both will take priority over division...
x(y) = xy and x(y+z) = (xy+xz)....

start here: start here: http://www.uiowa.edu/~examserv/mathmatters/tutorial_quiz/algebra/solvinglinearequ.html

So why does math.com have 1/2(5) =2.5
in the ex
x = 1/2 ($5.00) - $2.00
x = $2.50 - $2.00
x = $0.50 or fifty cents
http://www.math.com/school/subject2/lessons/S2U1L3EX.html

I think the answer is 288 depending on the origin of the question. If was a problem thats not attach to in real life example, then its 2.


Im going to email them right now.
 
that example does not prove the claim. the only reason the 2 is immediately multiplied by the sum of (3 + 6) is because there's nothing else there.

That is a regular occurance on this board (logical fallacies). What he offered as proof was no such thing. As another poster stated, I am still waiting on the rule supporting x(y) > z/x.
 
I don´t think that is the case. The people that disagree with you don´t have any problems understanding the semantics of simplication and how it applies to mathematics.

To get a solution of 2, one must assume a single term for [2(9+3)].

Because otherwise, the order of operations is from left to right once you compute inside the parenthesis as the distribution holds the same weight as multiplication in the order of operations because the distributive property is multiplication.

But followup, that is not how the equation is written.
Thereare rules in math. Just so that we all come to the same answer for the same equation. This is not like reading where you simply go from left to right. If you look through the links I posted, you will see how simplification works and how you can not solve an algebraic equation until you get rid of ALL parentheses. there is no implication. It's application of mathematical principles.
So Implied multiplication has higher precedence over regular multiplication and division???
Im going to say its 288 and 2
LOL!!! Both answers can not be correct the way the original equation was written. The answer is 2. And yes, "implied" multiplication as you call it, takes precedence over regular multiplicaiton & division. or simply put: multiplying parentheses by anything (including the number 2) takes priority over regular multiplication...
This doesn´t make the case for x(y) > z/x

It seems you are implying that brackets are implied around 2(9+3) because of distributive property. You are treating it as a single term [2(9+3)]. However, that is not the original equation.
yes it does...the parentheses takes priority....
so if you had an equation z/x(y) you can rewrite it as z/xy....I am not implying anything. This is how algebra is performed. you distribute across the parentheses until you can get rid of them and then you move on.
 
You and a-hole18 should go to bed then homes..


The problem is written, and waiting to be simplified... Then evaluated. Slow fucks like yourself dont understand the concept and think everyone else is slow... But hey, retards dont know they're retarded. :dunno:

That's true so here

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All jokes be back on tomorrow to hopefully get to the bottom of it if not fuck it we'll move on.
 
So why does math.com have 1/2(5) =2.5
in the ex
x = 1/2 ($5.00) - $2.00
x = $2.50 - $2.00
x = $0.50 or fifty cents
http://www.math.com/school/subject2/lessons/S2U1L3EX.html

I think the answer is 288 depending on the origin of the question. If was a problem thats not attach to in real life example, then its 2.

Im going to email them right now.
because the internet does not replace the human mind...

PARENTHESES TAKE PRIORITY OVER EVERYTHING ELSE>

1/2(5) is not the same as 1/2 (5). they obviously have a SEPARATE fraction and the parentheses are not right next to the 2...there is a space there so that you can see the fraction separately....
 
Thereare rules in math. Just so that we all come to the same answer for the same equation. This is not like reading where you simply go from left to right. If you look through the links I posted, you will see how simplification works and how you can not solve an algebraic equation until you get rid of ALL parentheses. there is no implication. It's application of mathematical principles.

LOL!!! Both answers can not be correct the way the original equation was written. The answer is 2. And yes, "implied" multiplication as you call it, takes precedence over regular multiplicaiton & division. or simply put: multiplying parentheses by anything (including the number 2) takes priority over regular multiplication...

yes it does...the parentheses takes priority....
so if you had an equation z/x(y) you can rewrite it as z/xy....I am not implying anything. This is how algebra is performed. you distribute across the parentheses until you can get rid of them and then you move on.

It can be 2 or 288 depending on the intentions

Its more common to write 1/2(4) and get 2 instead of 1/8
 
i always thought u had to distribute thru parentheses to get rid of them. thats why u do that so you wont get a wrong answers. its understood that a 1 is in front of them unless and an exponent of 1 is behind them otherwise stated. i.e. (9+3) = 1(9+3) too the 1st power. but if ur given something like 2(9+3) squared you have to solve all this 1st before you move on. kinda like whole numbers are understood be be over one when multiplying them by fractions. But I been wrong b4 and this is BGOL no one is ever right. . .
 
....I am not implying anything. .

Followup,

The very premise of your argument is implying a single term for [2(9+3)].

Because otherwise, the order of operations is from left to right once you compute inside the parenthesis as the distribution holds the same weight as multiplication in the order of operations because the distributive property is multiplication.

So again, where is the explicit rule for x(y) > z/x. ?

The only way to prove your case is to find a rule in support of the above otherwise you have to go against order of operations to get your solution. Because nowhere does it state you have to first distribute across the data inside the parenthesis. You complete INSIDE of the parenthesis. However, whether you distribute to the parenthesis depends on the order of operations. The multiplication does not over-ride the division to start the equation. That distributive function (multiplication in this case) holds the same weight as the division so you must start from left to right.


If that were the case, you would be able to easily find the specific rule for it.

Your solution is 100 percent correct if you imply [2(9+3)].
 
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