Knicks say "getdafugoutttaheay"

[LegalMoney]

Nigga is you crazy even that's too much

Nuggets need a fuckin reality check! http://www.fantasysp.com/nba_trade_analyzer/

That's a trade deadline is 10 minutes away deal. If Melo is coming to the Knicks, it's now or never. The kid has done everything legally possible to get to the Knicks while preserving his financial goals. Niggas talking that come as a free agent shit are wylin'! Would anyone risk millions just to come onto a team as the #1 player getting paid less than the #2 player? Fuck that, this is still just a game!

 

[LSN]

That's a trade deadline is 10 minutes away deal. If Melo is coming to the Knicks, it's now or never. The kid has done everything legally possible to get to the Knicks while preserving his financial goals. Niggas talking that come as a free agent shit are wylin'! Would anyone risk millions just to come onto a team as the #1 player getting paid less than the #2 player? Fuck that, this is still just a game!

I not saying he should come as a free agent...but the Knicks should not be desperate enough to gut a somewhat decent squad to get him...you wanna add him to the present nucleus not have a whole new damn team w/ Billups running the show...@ this point it's out of Melo's hands really...teams are looking out for THEIR best interest...only power Melo have is to sign the extension

 

[LSN]

exactly some people are not getting this.

If the Knicks walk away from this who are they going to trade with???

Hhahahahhaa I deleted that 2nd link tho cuz that's more of a "right now" thing for fantasy stats moreso than a real long-term analysis

 

[Oracle21]

a deal will get before the trade deadline is up. hope we dont give up gallinari or felton though

 

[BlackArsenic]

I not saying he should come as a free agent...but the Knicks should not be desperate enough to gut a somewhat decent squad to get him...you wanna add him to the present nucleus not have a whole new damn team w/ Billups running the show...@ this point it's out of Melo's hands really...teams are looking out for THEIR best interest...only power Melo have is to sign the extension

It's not gutting the team, you are giving up 2 starters for 2 starters. Curry is a bench warmer and if we get Melo and Billups that first rounder is a wash anyway.

 

[cli-terminator]

It's not gutting the team, you are giving up 2 starters for 2 starters. Curry is a bench warmer and if we get Melo and Billups that first rounder is a wash anyway.

Unfortunately Denver wants 3 starters, 2 bench players & 1st rounder for 2 starters. If that's not gutting your team then I don't know what is

 

[BlackArsenic]

Unfortunately Denver wants 3 starters, 2 bench players & 1st rounder for 2 starters. If that's not gutting your team then I don't know what is

No Denver want Danilo Gallinari, Raymond Felton, Eddy Curry, another starter(Could be Moz or Turiaf) and at least one first-round pick.

 

[Nobody]

I don't mind giving away Gallinari, Chandler or Felton.

I draw the line at all those guys AND Fields.

I think Fields would be a perfect complimentary role player to Melo and Amare.

Chauncey Billups will have one more season at 14 mil, and he could potentially be traded for someone else.

 

[Nobody]

No Denver want Danilo Gallinari, Raymond Felton, Eddy Curry, another starter(Could be Moz or Turiaf) and at least one first-round pick.

It's more likely Fields. The knicks could stand to lose Mozgov or Turiaf. They should offer Earl Barron a contract. He did well last season for NY

 

[AgentCreed]

i'll say it again, denver fucked up by using the media to try to deal with everyone... they leaked the trade talks with the nets, the lakers and everyone and did "we ain't gettin fucked like cleveland and toronto got fucked, we will be doing the fucking!" then they called donnie and was like we want all this plus we want it raw with no lube and donnie was like no u take this and go beat off or lose melo for nothing.

u can't ask for less from everyone then come to ny and demand more. fuck out of here.

donnie is still pissed about the houston trade last season and said he won't give up value like that again.

den will have to make a fair trade and understand fields and felton r untouchablem gallo is right behind them b/c he is young and his skill set like fields playing with melo will make him lethal.

both teams are meeting during all star weekend so den will have to come to a fair deal or melo is gone

 

[DiamondDeuce]

Never gut your roster of young & improving talent to take back people you dont want or who doesn't want to be there. Billups has already let it be known that if he's traded, he wants to be bought out so he can return to Denver where he wants to retire. Melo will be a Knick by the end of the summer one way or another. Every team knows it & everyone comparing it to last year forgets that Lebron never said he was going to sign with any team til the very end. People have known Melo wanted to be a Knick since last year summer. If his wedding or him tweeting pics in a Knicks uniform wasn't enough to prove that then opting not to sign an extension with anyone but the Knicks sure as hell is enough proof. I can see why some of y'all could never be professional GMs. Y'all see the highlight but not the rest of the game that surrounds that highlight.

Finally one of the few intelligent people in this thread.

Why would anyone think that the KNICKS should give up the FARM NOW, to get a player they can sign in the SUMMER?????

Everyone knows Mello wants to be Knick. The Knicks front office are going to sign him in the off season. The only reason Knicks are "entertaining" any trade options... is so they can lock MELLO up to a long term deal before the new CBA shortens the length of contracts. That is all.

The Nuggets are FOOLISH, by being PIG HEADED about the situation...dragging this thing out........and not getting anything of value in return.

 

[BlackArsenic]

i'll say it again, denver fucked up by using the media to try to deal with everyone... they leaked the trade talks with the nets, the lakers and everyone and did "we ain't gettin fucked like cleveland and toronto got fucked, we will be doing the fucking!" then they called donnie and was like we want all this plus we want it raw with no lube and donnie was like no u take this and go beat off or lose melo for nothing.

u can't ask for less from everyone then come to ny and demand more. fuck out of here.

donnie is still pissed about the houston trade last season and said he won't give up value like that again.

den will have to make a fair trade and understand fields and felton r untouchablem gallo is right behind them b/c he is young and his skill set like fields playing with melo will make him lethal.

both teams are meeting during all star weekend so den will have to come to a fair deal or melo is gone

Creed you are dreaming. Gallo is a worthless streaky shooter. Felton is overrated. Billups in D'Antoni's system could average the same in assist. Also, Billups could play the season out and go back to Denver next year. Felton is a 2 year with an option for the third meaning Denver could cut him too after next year.

 

[LSN]

Nuggets dicking around like this will prolly piss Melo off to no avail...if he not traded by the deadline more reason for him to walk away and make the Nuggets look like asses for stalling...Knicks better not fold...Felton should not be traded...Fields should not be traded...Chandler + Gallo should not be traded together...it's either 1 or the other along w/ w/e package they come up w/ that again does NOT include Felton or Fields

Finally one of the few intelligent people in this thread.

Why would anyone think that the KNICKS should give up the FARM NOW, to get a player they can sign in the SUMMER?????

Everyone knows Mello wants to be Knick. The Knicks front office are going to sign him in the off season. The only reason Knicks are "entertaining" any trade options... is so they can lock MELLO up to a long term deal before the new CBA shortens the length of contracts. That is all.

The Nuggets are FOOLISH, by being PIG HEADED about the situation...dragging this thing out........and not getting anything of value in return.

 

[LegalMoney]

Get it done now. The Summer isn't a guarantee. With Stern talking about the NBA will consider contracting the Hornets, teams are planning one last shot at another "Big Three" under the current CBA. If I'm Houston, Charlotte, shit even the Nets, I hope this drags out until the Summer. Those squads, especially the Nets, will have the assets and cap room to facilitate deals to land not only CP3, but bring in his homie Melo.

Either Chandler or Gallo is done. If no Melo deal then Chandler walks in FA. To sign Melo outright Knicks need to renounce Chandler, some bench players and trade Turiaf and AR.

Get Melo now without gutting the team. Gallo and Chandler are available, Felton, not so much.

 

[Nobody]

Creed you are dreaming. Gallo is a worthless streaky shooter. Felton is overrated. Billups in D'Antoni's system could average the same in assist. Also, Billups could play the season out and go back to Denver next year. Felton is a 2 year with an option for the third meaning Denver could cut him too after next year.

I agree.

I'm open to this trade, as long as it's Gallo, Chandler/Fields, Felton and Curry.

Remember, Billups' contract is an expiring contract the next season. So that can be turned into someone else.

 

[LSN]

I'm open to this trade, as long as it's Gallo, Chandler/Fields, Felton and Curry.

You bonkers yo hopefully the Knocks have more sense than you...Gallo Chandler (or Fields) Felton and Curry and don't forget that 1st rd. pick...smmfh insanity nigga insanity...keep Felton and Billups off the table...Nuggets are getting greedy...Knicks just want/need Melo

 

[AgentCreed]

Creed you are dreaming. Gallo is a worthless streaky shooter. Felton is overrated. Billups in D'Antoni's system could average the same in assist. Also, Billups could play the season out and go back to Denver next year. Felton is a 2 year with an option for the third meaning Denver could cut him too after next year.

billups wants to be released soon as he's traded. he won't play here plus he is not the same as he was.
gallo has shown the ability to do more than shoot in this offense with melo he is more dangerous. gallo's skillset is extremely rare for a player his size and he is a weapon and he's only what 21 yrs old?
den is asking for too much and they know it. they didn't ask any other team to gut their roster not one they come to the knicks and demand we gut ours... if it was a fair deal i can live with giving up gallo but now they're just tryin to rape the knicks to save face. fuck them. if the knicks walk away anyone they call will want to rape them in a deal, with donnie they will get a fair trade so they gotta pick their poison get raped by another team or get a fair deal from ny.

we r not the nj nets, the nets would be fine with being fucked over in fact they were until proky said fuck no so y do the knicks have to eager? we got enough ppl in melo's ear and den continues to let their trades be known in public... the knicks have until next week to pull the trigger or wait until the offseason

we meet with den upcoming all star weekend face to face it'll either get done fairly it won't get done and melo will know to blame den.
den has been ignoring the knicks calls for months and tryin to force him to the nets, telling the knicks don't want u he almost said yes to nj until amar'e texted him and let him it was bullshit then he switched up and said i don't wanna meet nobody... if the knicks rn't desperate y should anyone else?

 

[cli-terminator]

You bonkers yo hopefully the Knocks have more sense than you...Gallo Chandler (or Fields) Felton and Curry and don't forget that 1st rd. pick...smmfh insanity nigga insanity...keep Felton, Fields and Billups off the table...Nuggets are getting greedy...Knicks just want/need Melo

Fixed & Co-Signed

 

[LSN]

Fixed & Co-Signed

Oh ya I done said Fields + Felton are untouchable let the Nuggets go to hell...they have some nerve...I don't even care if the Knicks don't get him but I'd love to see Melo walk away and leave Denver empty-handed

 

[reignmaker]

all i know is if the knicks mess this up imma be ...i don't care about Gallo leaving and felton is decent...that's it!!! Right now the knicks are a .500 team ,and will be with the talent they have right now. Did i also mention we have Antoni as coach

 

[Nobody]

You bonkers yo hopefully the Knocks have more sense than you...Gallo Chandler (or Fields) Felton and Curry and don't forget that 1st rd. pick...smmfh insanity nigga insanity...keep Felton and Billups off the table...Nuggets are getting greedy...Knicks just want/need Melo

As it is now, this team is a 6-8 seeded team. Chandler, Gallo and Felton are not difference makers.

They are second tier players at best. Fields is a really good roleplayer.

Chauncey Billups will be an expiring contract, who the knicks could move for more role players.

 

[grownazzblakman]

The Knicks are only 2 or 3 games above .500...

and nuccas acting like Felton, Gallo, Fields, and/or Chandler are the 'missing pieces' to take the Knicks deep into the Playoffs.

Sheeeeitt. Whether Young or Old. Free agents, expiring contracts, or whateva...

NOT ONE of them dudes are All-star material.
Let 'em (role) play somewhere else.

I would TRADE ALL DEM DUDES for Melo.
(And take Billups.)

In a heartbeat.

You can find 'role players' anywhere in the league....
Or bring 'em up from the NBDL, if need be....
to fill empty spots on the bench.

 

[malaki]

you guys don't wanna give felton up for Melo huh

this is classic NY Knicks idiocy. you guys swear all your players are much better than they are.

felton...chandler...gallo....not a championship roster fellas

 

[cli-terminator]

Some of y'all still don't get it. Why trade so many players and gut your team when the man has clearly shown his card from day one on where he wants to go. The Knicks will get him but they're going to do it on their terms. If you're willing to trade damn hear half your roster for 2 players, 1 of which already made it known that he wants out as soon as possible, then more power to you. If the Knicks were to jump on this now then it would be just like the Dave Checketts, Scott Layden, Isiah days where you mortgage your future for an appearance in the playoffs. If you call yourself a Knicks fan & still pull that trigger then you are either delusional about what happens in the long run or dont know basketball as well as you claim you do.

 

[DAHITMAN]

Fuck out of here they should have pulled the trigger.

 

[AgentCreed]

The Knicks are only 2 or 3 games above .500...

and nuccas acting like Felton, Gallo, Fields, and/or Chandler are the 'missing pieces' to take the Knicks deep into the Playoffs.

Sheeeeitt. Whether Young or Old. Free agents, expiring contracts, or whateva...

NOT ONE of them dudes are All-star material.
Let 'em (role) play somewhere else.

I would TRADE ALL DEM DUDES for Melo.
(And take Billups.)

In a heartbeat.

You can find 'role players' anywhere in the league....
Or bring 'em up from the NBDL, if need be....
to fill empty spots on the bench.

fields is a rookie all star above the number 2 pick in the draft.
point remains den wasn't tryin to rape anyone else... cant rape the knicks
u dont gut ur team for a team that doesn't want to gut anyone else.


some of y'all dudes shouldnt be gm's.... u need good role players not just nbdl players not old ass vets who got nuthin left.... we r a young team giving up 2 players is fine a pick is ok...but fields is our most promising young player since ewing and cats wanna give him out of panic....

thank god for donnie

 

[cli-terminator]

Ok let's say you make that trade & send Gallo, Felton, Fields/Chandler & Curry over for Melo & Billups. You just sacrificed just about all your long range shooting ability so you no longer have anyone opponents fear when Melo or Amare are on the low block & need to kick it out on the double team. Can't spread the floor because all your players have the same range. Any outside shooting is inconsistent. Who's going to slash to the basket consistently & who is their to kick the ball out to after the penetration? These are things I don't think y'all are considering. Not only are the requested players young but they can also shoot & are perfect for teams that run & gun as well as spread the floor.

 

[fourth_retired]

Chauncy is 35yrs old how much years U think this guy has left?

Dude is putting up the same numbers as Gallo and Gallo is only 22yrs old. and 7inches taller

 

[The Pope]

The Nuggets are going to get the short end of the stick. Carmelo could just wait till the offseason and sign with the Knicks for lesser money and Denver cant do anything to stop it.

 

[killa kadafi191]

again seems like only Clit T and Agent gets it.

When gut your team when you don't have to???

that is the whole point. Denver either takes what the Knicks offer or they get him in the off season.

I mean are some of you nervous and actually think he is going to stay a nugget?? that isn't happening

You think he is going to say fuck it I want to be a Net.

Naw Proky is all pissed and pride now.

He wants nothing to do with Melo

The only option is the Knicks.

.

P

 

[Nobody]

fields is a rookie all star above the number 2 pick in the draft.
point remains den wasn't tryin to rape anyone else... cant rape the knicks
u dont gut ur team for a team that doesn't want to gut anyone else.


some of y'all dudes shouldnt be gm's.... u need good role players not just nbdl players not old ass vets who got nuthin left.... we r a young team giving up 2 players is fine a pick is ok...but fields is our most promising young player since ewing and cats wanna give him out of panic....

thank god for donnie

They weren't trying to gut NJ?

Favors, Harris, another player and THREE draft picks?

The Nets were going to be gutted WORSE because as it is, Favors is a 3rd overall pick, they're going to have the 6th draft pick this season, and a lottery pick next season that is going to be higher than it would be with Melo, but a lottery pick regardless.

Chandler, Felton, Gallo.

Carmelo, Billups.

These are the principles

As the knicks are currently, they're a first round flameout. They have a top flight offensive option in Amare, and there's a big drop off offensively. The Knicks suck defensively with or without Anthony so let's focus on what he brings.

He gives the knicks that second big offensive punch. He plays well every night, and at worst he'll have an off night every 8-10 games. What the Knicks have now is Amare and whoever else decides to step up.

In the playoffs you can't win reliably in that manner.

 

[alexw]

nothing in life is guaranteed

yall keep talking about the summer but shit changes fast

hell lala might get a job in chicago and the knicks are history

you get a superstar while you can

the summer of lebron and the winter of melo will be another failure for the knicks

pay attention, melo has no idea what he really wants to do

the knicks will lose again.....yall stay losing

 

[The Pope]

As a New Orleans Hornets fan I can honestly say I want Carmelo to get traded because without Melo and Billups the Nuggets would be the Western Conference version of the Cleveland Cavaliers.

 

[alexw]

Ok let's say you make that trade & send Gallo, Felton, Fields/Chandler & Curry over for Melo & Billups. You just sacrificed just about all your long range shooting ability so you no longer have anyone opponents fear when Melo or Amare are on the low block & need to kick it out on the double team. Can't spread the floor because all your players have the same range. Any outside shooting is inconsistent. Who's going to slash to the basket consistently & who is their to kick the ball out to after the penetration? These are things I don't think y'all are considering. Not only are the requested players young but they can also shoot & are perfect for teams that run & gun as well as spread the floor.

huh?

melo, amare, and billups all create their own shots

they dont need someone to make them better

you double amare or melo and billups will hit the three

(his nickname is big shot for a reason)

plus you have offensive superstars so defenses cant cheat on amare like they do now

yall killing me acting like these role players are the answer

you need multiple superstars to win in this league

the knicks will fail again

 

[God's Gift]

You still don't get it.


The Nets were desperate they needed a superstar a face for their franchise. They were losing etc etc etc.


the Knicks just told the Nuggets. "We are not the Nets" We will not be gutted and this is not on your terms.

come holla at us when you ready to act right

And the Nets are moving to Brooklyn next year... Without a signature player in the lineup that new arena that NYC taxpayers are giving to a billionaire owner that shits gonna be a Jay-z sound check