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THE WRESTLING THREAD: HHH KEEPS DOING HHH THINGS.....

kanedagame said:
Did u read the Sting post Dave? They say he signed a deal.
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I did but I never trust mainstream reports on wrestling stuff. They don't know who to talk to. I know signing Sting was the highest priority for Vince and WWE but I'll need confirmation from a reputable source before I believe it.

c_commander said:
Being that they're vets and wouldn't have too much recent punishment on their bodies at the time I'm sure that they could come up with a pretty good match.Not big on crazy spots but with good storytelling and heavy on psychology
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That might work for some hard core fans but most people will expect Sting 96 and Taker 2000 and be extremely disappointed by what happens when two broken down vets get in the ring. Even with all their experience, they would be very limited in what they can do. Sting hasn't had a good match in two years, since he feuded with Angle. Taker has had two good matches in three years and both were with Shawn Michaels. With that said, if they could sign this one, they should just for the historical sake.

Other than Flair I could see Luger doing it since they were best friends.Maybe even Arn if they were desperate.
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Lex would be good and I've heard he's back on good terms with WWE.

Or be the Raw GM.I heard an interview with him on the Art of Wrestling Podcast about a month ago.Pretty good interview and he even talked about his sandwhich shop.
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He would be perfect in that role too but having him be the anonymous GM would be a huge letdown.
btw, that gimmick is old and should have ended a long time ago. I'm to the point where I think the whole "GM/executive" gimmick/character should be put to bed for a long time.



dirtyd said:
Nice to see he's coming full circle, for a while it seemed like he was trying to distance himself from wrestling. I guess now he realized that people will always know him as the rock, and that's not bad at all seeing as it was rock that made him a superstar.

.[/B]
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Rock had to cut ties completely with wrestling for a while just he could be taken seriously as an actor. Now that he's an established guy, he can go back and do things with the company like any other celebrity.
 
Upgrade Dave said:
Rock had to cut ties completely with wrestling for a while just he could be taken seriously as an actor. Now that he's an established guy, he can go back and do things with the company like any other celebrity.
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What's funny is that his movies did better when he was still labeled as "The Rock". Mainstream accepted him as rock but hollywood dumbasses wanted him to become dwayne johnson.

The Rock = The Run Down:yes:
Dwayne Johnson = Tooth Fairy:smh::puke:
 
From Wrestlezone.com:



21-2=19, 1-1=0; Therefore, Undertaker Returns On 2-21-11
By: Chris Cash, Managing Editor

"If you zoom in, you can see 'Sting' written in the sand"

"Those are clearly pointed boots; the Undertaker never wore pointed boots. Therefore, it has to be a promo for Sting!"

"The smoke coming off of 2-21-11 at the end spells Sting! Well, I can clearly tell the first letter is an 'S' and the last letter is a 'G'. That's enough, right?"

"I'm a huge Undertaker fan and that is clearly not the Undertaker's walk. Any real wrestling fan would know that!"

And my personal favorite...

"If you subtract 2 from 21, you get 19 and 1-1 is 0. This promo is clearly for the Undertaker because it also indicates that he'll be back to defend his win streak at WrestleMania."

These are just a few of the recent emails I've received regarding the mysterious vignette that aired on last night's edition of Monday Night Raw. What probably started as a simple effort to bring the Undertaker back has now taken a life of its own.

And Vince McMahon must be eating it up.

I hope he is. Surely this reaction must prove true the "Keep It Simple Stupid" method. What would have been a typical post-ppv follow up show of a Raw on 2/21 is now becoming a must-see event. If it isn't, already.

Let's look at the candidates:

Anyone besides the Undertaker or Sting - at this point, I would say "not a chance". It could have started off that way (potentially Kong, a new gimmick, etc.), but fans would be way too disappointed if the reveal is any less than those two. I honestly think fans may even be disappointed if it turns out to be the Undertaker.

The Undertaker - the more likely choice given the fact we "know" he's signed with the company. He's also expected to be at WrestleMania this year and six weeks is all the time required to build to his annual match with the "Streak" on the line. I give Taker 2/1 odds.

Sting - the NY Daily Times somehow outscooped the scoopers and announced that Sting has signed a one-year deal with the WWE. No one has denied it at this point, so I guess it's feasible. Surprising though, seeing as how Sting vowed never to work for Vince and the WWE. I still wait for the day that never actually does mean never in professional wrestling. NEVERtheless, I give Sting 10/1 odds.

I'm sure more information on Sting's potential signing will be released over the weeks to come, but even if it's all a hoax and Sting was never slated to join the WWE family, it has sure been fun while it's lasted. Imagining the fantasy matchups that seem endless right now pairing Sting with Cena, Punk, an inevitable return of Ric Flair, Randy Orton, Jericho, etc. Yes, even an iconic showdown between Sting and the Undertaker is certainly a match for the ages.

Sting may not have a lot of time left lacing up his boots, but that's plenty of time for me. He's truly the one big player left that his not giving in and signing with Vince has made wrestling fans miss out on a lot of great, historical moments.

If he works the Crow gimmick (and he should), his age and lost steps in the ring can be disguised. Look at what the Undertaker has accomplished since changing his style to suit his age. He works smarter, not harder. Sting knows how.

The hype surrounding February 21st, 2011 has led to something much more now.

Hope.

It's a reminder that Sting has never wrestled in a WWE ring. It's a reminder that he still has classic matches to be wrestled in said WWE ring. And a reminder that the WWE is still the place to be at some point in your career as a wrestler. 2-22-11 has provided us with hope that it could all change in one night.

Damn! Now I'm going to be disappointed if it turns out to be the Undertaker.
 
When, not if, Sting finally goes to WWE, Vince's victory over WCW will be complete. Sting, even more than Flair (more the face of Crockett and the NWA), was the face of WCW. He definitely should go, even if he never wrestles a match.
 
Upgrade Dave said:
When, not if, Sting finally goes to WWE, Vince's victory over WCW will be complete. Sting, even more than Flair (more the face of Crockett and the NWA), was the face of WCW. He definitely should go, even if he never wrestles a match.
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We can at least get a good ass dvd.
 
theegokiller said:
yeah, but if they do a documentary, the have to have Flair on it:yes:
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Some new Flair interviews on Sting would be great but he's spoken so highly of Sting publicly so many times, I'm sure they have archive footage they'll use.
Same thing with Mick Foley. They have to have him speak on Sting. Him, Flair, Luger, and Vader have to be some of Sting's greatest enemies.
 
Upgrade Dave said:
Some new Flair interviews on Sting would be great but he's spoken so highly of Sting publicly so many times, I'm sure they have archive footage they'll use.
Same thing with Mick Foley. They have to have him speak on Sting. Him, Flair, Luger, and Vader have to be some of Sting's greatest enemies.
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So let me ask you this, now that you know who "they" are, do you think this is a positive move on the part of TNA, or another case of two steps forward three steps back? I am still on the fence about it. I would really like to see how they explain it...:confused:
 
theegokiller said:
So let me ask you this, now that you know who "they" are, do you think this is a positive move on the part of TNA, or another case of two steps forward three steps back? I am still on the fence about it. I would really like to see how they explain it...:confused:
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I think it's great and much better than bringing back Sting and Nash.
They had it running as a kind of subplot/back up plan all along. Not just the way Bischoff has been riding AJ but the responses by AJ and Kazarian on ReAction. I saw this coming eventually but not this soon.
I'm curious to how Steiner and Angle fit into it and what happens with Ric Flair.
I also hope they don't abandon the TV title. Abyss had it but he's out for a while and they didn't even mention it.
 
Upgrade Dave said:
Some new Flair interviews on Sting would be great but he's spoken so highly of Sting publicly so many times, I'm sure they have archive footage they'll use.
Same thing with Mick Foley. They have to have him speak on Sting. Him, Flair, Luger, and Vader have to be some of Sting's greatest enemies.
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They better have some UWF footage as 1/2 of the Blade Runners(with Ultimate Warrior) to his face turn against Hotstuff International. Without Bill Watts cooperation this DVD will be incomplete. Also include matches against the Great Muta and Rick Rude.
 
THE DRIZZY said:
They better have some UWF footage as 1/2 of the Blade Runners(with Ultimate Warrior) to his face turn against Hotstuff International. Without Bill Watts cooperation this DVD will be incomplete. Also include matches against the Great Muta and Rick Rude.
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I think they have that because Crockett got some UWF footage when he bought it from Watts.

Sting's a lot like Flair in that he's worked on top nearly his entire career. He wrestled at almost every ppv and Clash so he has a long, long list of matches to choose from.
The Rude matches were good. Rude was a stiff son of a bitch.
 
Upgrade Dave said:
I think they have that because Crockett got some UWF footage when he bought it from Watts.

Sting's a lot like Flair in that he's worked on top nearly his entire career. He wrestled at almost every ppv and Clash so he has a long, long list of matches to choose from.
The Rude matches were good. Rude was a stiff son of a bitch.
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If it is it'll be from april 0f 87 to starrcade 87 when they UWF got Jobbed out. But they'll have the Flair stuff, Vader, Rude, Cactus Jack, the dangerous alliance fued, oh yeah when he won the TV against Mike Rotunda.And they must have the Steiners vs Luger/Sting as well
 
SABU said:
If it is it'll be from april 0f 87 to starrcade 87 when they UWF got Jobbed out. But they'll have the Flair stuff, Vader, Rude, Cactus Jack, the dangerous alliance fued, oh yeah when he won the TV against Mike Rotunda.And they must have the Steiners vs Luger/Sting as well
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Pretty much. Watts lost the Mid South library in his divorce and sold what was left to Crockett. I think Sting's turn on Eddie Gilbert might be in there. Now that I think about it, it should be since that happened after him and Rick Steiner lost the UWF tag titles to Tim Horner and Brad Armstrong (something that should be won't be on the dvd).

Damn, got me thinking about UWF. That shit was so good.

Sting headlined like the first 4 or 5 Clash of the Champions with different opponents and didn't get a break until he jacked up his knee in Corpus Christi...at a Clash of the Champions.
 
KEVIN NASH COMMENTS ON TNA DEPARTURE, GIVES ADVICE TO DIXIE CARTER
by Mike Johnson @ 11:15 AM on 2/3/2011

Kevin Nash wrote a blog commenting on his departure from TNA and return to World Wrestling Entertainment as Diesel over the weekend, noting that he needed to come back to where he started.
"My wife and I had a long discussion and I told her how important it was for me to end my career where I began. I think it took her 2 seconds to agree. I don’t know how many of you have seen Vanilla Sky. Don’t know if Boston was real or lucid dream. When they chanted Diesel, it sure as hell felt real for ME!"

Nash thanked Jeff Jarrett for inviting him back into professional wrestling, commenting, "Alot of people don’t realize what a close relationship Jeff and I have. In the dog days of the WWF, I’m sure we traveled more than a million miles together. What he went through with the loss of his wife Jill and the happiness he’s now found, while trying to keep TNA together, was amazing to witness."

Nash also specifically thanked The Carter family and advised Dixie Carter that if she really wanted to compete with the WWE, she needed to break the bank and hire John Cena, because when WCW wanted to compete they did that with he and Scott Hall.

You can read all of Nash's comments on his Twitter account at Twitter.com/realkevinnash and http://kevinnash.tumblr.com/.



Okay, Big Kev should stfu on this one. Bringing in Cena would do nothing except give them a one week bump. TNA is not WCW in 96. WCW had a large fanbase already and was building on that by bringing in Hogan and Savage. TNA is still a relatively new company compared to WWE. They've already brought in big names and don't have much to show for it. Bringing in Angle, Foley, Hogan, RVD, and Hardy (both) gave them slight bumps and then the ratings went back to normal.
When they brought in Angle, he was headlining in WWE and ECW. Jeff Hardy was the most popular guy in wrestling when he left WWE and still nothing.

It's the booking that will help them stand out not buying names and faces.
 
hardcore_legend said:
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MAJOR PROPS ON THIS POST, im damn near scared my isp is gonna cut me off im downloading thw whole connection. im on may of 1998 right now and i for got what those light heavyweight matches were like back in the day i wish they would bring that shit back Rey mysterio and john morrison are like the only 2 wrestlers that can do a Hurricanrana these days :lol:
 
Upgrade Dave said:
Pretty much. Watts lost the Mid South library in his divorce and sold what was left to Crockett. I think Sting's turn on Eddie Gilbert might be in there. Now that I think about it, it should be since that happened after him and Rick Steiner lost the UWF tag titles to Tim Horner and Brad Armstrong (something that should be won't be on the dvd).

Damn, got me thinking about UWF. That shit was so good.

Sting headlined like the first 4 or 5 Clash of the Champions with different opponents and didn't get a break until he jacked up his knee in Corpus Christi...at a Clash of the Champions.
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Trying to climb that cage with the horseman vs gary hart j-tex .
And earlier Flair told him " to SMARTEN UP Do the right thing don't sign that contract" and then smacked the shit out of him lol . Cause then Luger fill in for the Wrestle War match where Luger turned face when he saved sting from that beatdown with the horseman
 
bigjayler said:
would've been the greatest heel ever :yes:
though probably would've gotten murdered by an overzealous fan though lol
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Vince bought him in at the worst time possible, but yeah if he had stayed in that character any time longer he would of got killed.
 
blackras9 said:
Fortune just turned face????? At least its a plausible explanation...
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If somebody had told me last week this is who they were I would have called them crazy.And yes the explanation was at least better than I could have expected.If Flair comes back I guess he was apart of this since he kept saying we are they and him being the one to reinstate Kurt Angle.
 
I thought it was gonna suck until I actually saw it. I read about it on Tuesday. Now, I am interested to see how they work this. If you think about it, it's a way for them to openly admit that everything they have done since Hogan arrived, was garbage, and start from scratch. Now, AJ can go back to the way he wrestled before they locked him in with Flair.:dance:
 
Someone from TNA read my post #3185 on this topic. Two heel factions never work well together and it proved my point. Slowy seeing momentum in TNA. Since Christopher Daniels is back in TNA. TNA/ROH should form a working agreement to let stars work both promotions. WGTT vs. MCMG or a Steve Corino/Ric Flair confrontation
 
c_commander said:
If somebody had told me last week this is who they were I would have called them crazy.And yes the explanation was at least better than I could have expected.If Flair comes back I guess he was apart of this since he kept saying we are they and him being the one to reinstate Kurt Angle.
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watch i bet now bischoff will be telling security to keep flair out of the building,etc :lol::rolleyes:
 
SABU said:
Trying to climb that cage with the horseman vs gary hart j-tex .
And earlier Flair told him " to SMARTEN UP Do the right thing don't sign that contract" and then smacked the shit out of him lol . Cause then Luger fill in for the Wrestle War match where Luger turned face when he saved sting from that beatdown with the horseman
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Yo, that was a crazy Clash. Plus it had an insane Cactus Jack-Mil Mascaras match where Jack took a sick bump on the concrete floor.

c_commander said:
If somebody had told me last week this is who they were I would have called them crazy.And yes the explanation was at least better than I could have expected.If Flair comes back I guess he was apart of this since he kept saying we are they and him being the one to reinstate Kurt Angle.
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It does seem like they had this as a backup plan same as they did with Immortal (originally "They" was supposed to be the ECW guys not Hogan and Bischoff).
When they're trying TNA can come up with interesting stuff but it's always in the followup where they kill it.

xspade7 said:
Someone from TNA read my post #3185 on this topic. Two heel factions never work well together and it proved my point. Slowy seeing momentum in TNA. Since Christopher Daniels is back in TNA. TNA/ROH should form a working agreement to let stars work both promotions. WGTT vs. MCMG or a Steve Corino/Ric Flair confrontation
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They'll probably never have anything more than the informal working relationship they have now. TNA has nothing to gain from working with ROH. They can pick off their talent anytime they want and ROH has a smaller audience than they do.

ThaBurgerPimp said:
watch i bet now bischoff will be telling security to keep flair out of the building,etc :lol::rolleyes:
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Send in your resume. That's a great way to explain Flair not being on tv for the next couple shows.
 
No more taped fists matches between Knockouts unless they have it better thought out. That was bad and even worse considering the talent of the women involved.
 
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