Russian and Chinese investors are battling for African resources

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Racing for New Riches


Russian and Chinese investors are battling for African resources to fuel their growing empires.

By Owen Matthews
NEWSWEEK
Updated: 3:34 PM ET Nov 8, 2007


Late on a Friday at the Simba Saloon in downtown Nairobi, music by the Kenyan pop sensation Boomba Clan is playing, and the ties are coming off.



At the bar, financial types swap news of the latest bank IPOs and mineral concessions—the must-have gossip in Africa's biggest boomtown. Some of the conversations are in English.



Some are in Chinese.



And increasingly, many are in Russian, as Moscow begins to give both the West and Beijing a run for their money in the race for Africa's riches.


Today emerging-market giants are fighting for oil, gas and metal ore in Africa as energetically as 19th-century European colonialists grabbed land.



The Chinese have been the most aggressive, with more than 700 companies active in 50 countries, according to Standard Bank of South Africa.



China is now Africa's second largest aid donor and trading partner, behind the United States, with trade up fourfold to $40 billion since 2000.


But Russia, the second most-active emerging-market power, is gaining.



While trade with Africa is only $3 billion a year (up threefold since 2000), Russian companies flush with cash have sunk more than $5 billion into buying up African assets since 2000—and that's not counting $3.5 billion of oil-exploration deals coming online by the end of the decade.



(Over the same period, China has put $6.7 billion into Africa, but much of that money has been sunk into infrastructure projects like telecom, electric power, water conservation, transportation and agriculture.)


Pushed by the profit motive, and by a Kremlin eager to build economic empires, Russian businessmen are heading south.



Africa, like Russia in the early 1990s, is full of basket-case economies with great mineral wealth—and the Russians reckon they know how to deal with those conditions.



Russia has strongly encouraged its companies to buy assets around the world because it suits President Vladimir Putin's philosophy of restoring his country's international position.



Recent energy deals in Algeria have gone hand in hand with $4 billion in arms sales from Moscow.



Russian businesses interested in South Africa have gotten a boost from a deal Putin made with President Thabo Mbeki to expand nuclear cooperation.



Last September Putin made a whistle-stop tour of Africa with several top Russian oligarchs in tow—including Viktor Vekselberg, who pledged to invest $2 billion in metal and mining projects in Africa.


While the Chinese are staking ground in Africa mainly to power their burgeoning cities and manufacturing sector, Russians see the deals differently.



Russia is the world's largest energy exporter, and has plenty of its own metals and minerals.



But rich Russian companies want to extend their global reach while they have the money, and with oil approaching $100 a barrel in recent weeks, the time is now.


There's another motive, too, analysts say: moving empires beyond the reach of the Kremlin serves as insurance against future political changes in Russia.





Over the last three years, four top Russian metal companies have invested more than $5 billion in sub-Saharan Africa alone.



Russian oil giants Lukoil, Rosneft and Stroytransgaz have signed exploration deals in Algeria, Nigeria, Angola and Egypt worth more than $3 billion.



Earlier this year Lukoil snapped up 63 percent of a field off the Ivory Coast in a production-sharing agreement with the Nigerian owners.


While the Chinese focus on commodities, the Russians have that in mind and more.

Economic growth in sub-Saharan Africa is expected to hit 6.7 percent this year, and the region's debt burden has fallen from 80 percent of GDP a decade ago to about 30 percent.



Economic reform is gaining momentum in places like Zambia and Kenya, and countries like South Africa, Kenya and Nigeria now boast a growing consumer class.



The Russians see that and are expanding from oil into financial services, telecom and retail.


Russian banks are fast outpacing Western private-equity investors such as Washington's Emerging Capital Partners and South African hedge funds.


It's a Moscow investment firm, Renaissance Capital, that is pioneering services that will soon allow billions in outside money to be channeled into sub-Saharan African businesses.



And a new Africa Fund just launched by Renaissance is expected to reach its $1 billion cap by spring —making it as large as the total of five funds put together since 2000 by Emerging Capital Partners, previously the largest private investors.





It's not clear that Russia and China will be better for Africa than Westerners turned out to be.



South Africa, for example, has been a model for sustainable growth in the region, but South African corporations eager to expand throughout the continent may be winnowed out by Chinese or Russians who can pay cash for practically any asset.



Local leaders say they've been following Western business and development models for decades without seeing returns.



New countries may offer something new.



At the very least, they bring cash.



As the ties come off on the dance floor, and cocktails that would be worth two weeks' wages of a Kenyan laborer are spilled, it's unclear what else the new conquerors will make of Africa's future.






http://www.newsweek.com/id/68910






Is there going to be a repeat of a Scramble for Africa?????


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scramble_for_Africa


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I was just talking about this in my post Kayanation. Chinese is buying into Africa at an alarming rate. It was a big topic while I was there..especially after a Chinese company purchased a very large South African banking group
 
I was just talking about this in my post Kayanation. Chinese is buying into Africa at an alarming rate. It was a big topic while I was there..especially after a Chinese company purchased a very large South African banking group



I read your post talking about it and remembered i read and article in the Newsweek about it.........

Thought I should share.............


By the time African American wake up, they would be left with nothing in their hands........


They can't seem to get the starving Ethiopian baby image out of their head.

:smh::smh::smh:
 
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There is so much opportunity there man. And you are right....everyone has that picture of famine-stricken Africa. I would literally live in Capetown...I lived that city...a bit slow at night... but beautiful city..not too big..not too small...clean...great waterfront, etc.

Even out on the Safaris man. That is a big business in Africa. All the tour guides, drivers, etc were black. I had an issue that needed to be solved and the owner came to give me a visit..you guessed it? Don't even have to say who owned the joint.

Man. I wish I had a tape recorder from a long discussion with this African dude at Kruger Park.There was a group of us having some beers..dude dropped in some Pac and proceeded to break down the history of Africa for the next 2-3 hours..just dropping gems..about the Arabic invasion of the North..invasion of the South by Holland.. The English, Portuguese, etc in the West.... he talked about the reason why there was unification under one rule because no one could conquer the interior because the people there were unified and fierce....etc..he talked about the current issues of China attemptingto make its claim in Africa... about the misconception of Africa being an impoverished land..etc.... how the lack of cohesion and proactiveness allows for foreign interests to continue to rape the continent...it was all very deep stuff...especially to get it from the locals...
 
If only Africans in the diaspora knew about the vast mineral wealth. The rest of the world knows. African Americans could care less and that is a damn shame.
 
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There is so much opportunity there man. And you are right....everyone has that picture of famine-stricken Africa. I would literally live in Capetown...I lived that city...a bit slow at night... but beautiful city..not too big..not too small...clean...great waterfront, etc.

Even out on the Safaris man. That is a big business in Africa. All the tour guides, drivers, etc were black. I had an issue that needed to be solved and the owner came to give me a visit..you guessed it? Don't even have to say who owned the joint.

Man. I wish I had a tape recorder from a long discussion with this African dude at Kruger Park.There was a group of us having some beers..dude dropped in some Pac and proceeded to break down the history of Africa for the next 2-3 hours..just dropping gems..about the Arabic invasion of the North..invasion of the South by Holland.. The English, Portuguese, etc in the West.... he talked about the reason why there was unification under one rule because no one could conquer the interior because the people there were unified and fierce....etc..he talked about the current issues of China attemptingto make its claim in Africa... about the misconception of Africa being an impoverished land..etc.... how the lack of cohesion and proactiveness allows for foreign interests to continue to rape the continent...it was all very deep stuff...especially to get it from the locals...




That is our role as Africans in the Diaspora right there............

Marcus Garvey was able to do it on a scale that has never been repeated.

In the age of information, we shouldn't have to sit idly by and have no say.

However the education we receive reinforces the concept that there is nothing Africa has to offer the world.......and we fall for it.

We have an opportunity during 1 month of the year to really volunteer to go into schools and drop some real African history on these black kids.

Can we organize that as successful as the Jena march?

It remains to be seen................




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Damn what a bunch of parasites!!!:angry:

but deciding to own a bank, couldnt it literally mean that after couple of years wouldnt they be able to control the economy of africa???
the way i see it, it s like a game of monopoly if you own the country's infrastructures then you can later dispose of it the way it pleases you !!!:confused:
 
If only Africans in the diaspora knew about the vast mineral wealth. The rest of the world knows. African Americans could care less and that is a damn shame.

as unstable as that continent is, i had to get scammed to do business over there. why send money when the government may be overthrown in a few years. fuck it let china and russia have it. hell its about time for china to get wrapped in a unwinnable guerilla war anyway, its one of the traits of being a world power!
 
Very Good post. They are raping Africa and no one is paying attention. I would love to see China finally mobilize as and attempt to occupy another space besides that cramped assed country their in now. Let's go WWIII: Battle for African Riches Bitches!
 
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There is so much opportunity there man. And you are right....everyone has that picture of famine-stricken Africa. I would literally live in Capetown...I lived that city...a bit slow at night... but beautiful city..not too big..not too small...clean...great waterfront, etc.

Even out on the Safaris man. That is a big business in Africa. All the tour guides, drivers, etc were black. I had an issue that needed to be solved and the owner came to give me a visit..you guessed it? Don't even have to say who owned the joint.

Man. I wish I had a tape recorder from a long discussion with this African dude at Kruger Park.There was a group of us having some beers..dude dropped in some Pac and proceeded to break down the history of Africa for the next 2-3 hours..just dropping gems..about the Arabic invasion of the North..invasion of the South by Holland.. The English, Portuguese, etc in the West.... he talked about the reason why there was unification under one rule because no one could conquer the interior because the people there were unified and fierce....etc..he talked about the current issues of China attemptingto make its claim in Africa... about the misconception of Africa being an impoverished land..etc.... how the lack of cohesion and proactiveness allows for foreign interests to continue to rape the continent...it was all very deep stuff...especially to get it from the locals...

Thanks for sharing that story. I have to visit the West Coast and see for myself. I've seen the posts with pictures of the different countires. I do admit the media puts some images in my mind that leaves me with the wrong perception.
 
Very Good post. They are raping Africa and no one is paying attention. I would love to see China finally mobilize as and attempt to occupy another space besides that cramped assed country their in now. Let's go WWIII: Battle for African Riches Bitches!

Indeed a great post! They already have. I talk to a lot of africans who travel back to The continent often and they have informed me that there's an ever growing chinese community living in most african countries. They aren't typically into selling egg drop soup etc..., they are often involved in big business and natural resource industries.

A senegalese friend of mine told me that there is a huge rift between the the chinese buisiness commmunity and local buisinessmen/women. In the last few years there's been several riots; as local businesses find it difficult to compete with the cheaper chinese made goods.

By senegalese law, there's a lot of restrictions on foreigners owning businesses in senegal. As you would imagine, the chinese have found major loopholes, by bribing local officials and even marrying senegalese women and putting their businesses in their name. In addition, in chinese business practices, they tend not to hire locals, instead they import chinese workers from impoverished regions of china to work in plants & industries abroad. The last time that I visited the dominican republic, the same thing was going on in various free trade zones.

I used to think that chinas' emergence as a major world power is a good thing for third world nations. Now, I have doubts! They may prove to be as beligerent towards third world nations as the west.

Throughout much of human history, the chinese have been very insular and prefered not to reach out to foreigners. Hence, few people understand the hearts, minds & intentions of the chinese collective. Whatever the case it's going to be interesting.

slim
 
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Not too many dudes are interested in this subject although this could have far reaching impacts in our daily lives VERY SOON. There is a reason why the U.S. is trying to set up AFRICOM on the continent, its the very same reason why Russian and Chinese investors are there..Race to claim as much resources as possible before the world economy goes parabolic. Oil is one of them. Wars have been fought over little shit we take for granted, such as water, you think these white folks won't try to nuke each other for resources to keep their economies going? Dudes too focused on material shit to see the hand coming down to slap them silly.
 
they aint hearing you Bruh ............ now you post some dumb stuff about "Beyonces Nude Pics" or " BGOL Poster X is a fag " and you get 10 pages of responses :smh:


At least some of the older heads congregate and we all learn based on their discussions..............
 
That is our role as Africans in the Diaspora right there............

Marcus Garvey was able to do it on a scale that has never been repeated.

In the age of information, we shouldn't have to sit idly by and have no say.

However the education we receive reinforces the concept that there is nothing Africa has to offer the world.......and we fall for it.

We have an opportunity during 1 month of the year to really volunteer to go into schools and drop some real African history on these black kids.

Can we organize that as successful as the Jena march?

It remains to be seen................




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Well, it could be repeated just that i don't know if something like the UNIA would develop. Look at how "some" black people are talking about they not voting for Obama.:smh:
 
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There is so much opportunity there man. And you are right....everyone has that picture of famine-stricken Africa. I would literally live in Capetown...I lived that city...a bit slow at night... but beautiful city..not too big..not too small...clean...great waterfront, etc.

Even out on the Safaris man. That is a big business in Africa. All the tour guides, drivers, etc were black. I had an issue that needed to be solved and the owner came to give me a visit..you guessed it? Don't even have to say who owned the joint.

Man. I wish I had a tape recorder from a long discussion with this African dude at Kruger Park.There was a group of us having some beers..dude dropped in some Pac and proceeded to break down the history of Africa for the next 2-3 hours..just dropping gems..about the Arabic invasion of the North..invasion of the South by Holland.. The English, Portuguese, etc in the West.... he talked about the reason why there was unification under one rule because no one could conquer the interior because the people there were unified and fierce....etc..he talked about the current issues of China attempting to make its claim in Africa... about the misconception of Africa being an impoverished land..etc.... how the lack of cohesion and proactiveness allows for foreign interests to continue to rape the continent...it was all very deep stuff...especially to get it from the locals...

Yes Capetown is great. I loved seeing all my people doing their do. I was crazy interested in talking to them about apartheid. They handled it way better than amerikkka handled slavery. I'll def be going back. I've been back to Africa 4 times since. Always a different place. This year I'll be going to Tanzania.
As for the chinese and russians, they're just like the arabs: doing the heavy lifting so the white europeans can reap the benefits. What's so new about that?
 
Let's not be somewhat naive...Corruption happens everywhere, Its effect on poorer countries is more flagrant/noticeable...It is in no way an obstacle to Development. Where's Chicago today? What about Las Vegas? What about Los Angeles? Moscow?
 
Is corruption a Cause or Effect of Poverty In Africa?



corelation is NOT causation, corruption is neither a cause or effect of poverty as can be seen with America's current mortgage meltdown

Corruption is corruption. poverty, wealth, doesn't matter........

We have been fed that poverty corruption bullshit about Africa for the longest, time to move on to the next stigma




Africa's solution lies in its economics



Let the chinese tell it, how they do it






DECEMBER 19, 2008

China Leaders Warn Crisis Threatens Reform


By JASON LEOW

BEIJING -- China's Communist Party leaders, meeting Thursday to celebrate 30 years of market-driven economic strategy, promised more liberalization but warned that an economic slowdown threatened gains and created the need to guard against instability.

"Nothing can be done without stability," said Chinese President Hu Jintao, who is also head of the party, speaking in the Great Hall of the People.
He said economic development was key to achieving "enduring peace and stability."

Mr. Hu mentioned the global financial crisis and its impact on China only briefly in a speech intended to mark the triumph of the country's policy of "reform and opening up," which began in 1978 under Deng Xiaoping.

China is now on track to become the world's third-largest economy. In 16 of the past 30 years, China has posted double-digit gains in gross domestic product, a broad measure of economic activity.

Today, however, Mr. Hu and his government are faced with slowing growth and a population increasingly upset with job losses and a widening gap between rich and poor. The global financial turmoil of the past year has hurt China's exports, on which the economy depends. The country's GDP is likely to expand by just over 9% this year, down from last year's 11.4% growth. Economists predict growth next year of less than 8%, threatening greater unemployment and unrest.

"It would have been nice to celebrate the 30th anniversary with an economy that is doing well, but that's not what we have," said Deng Yufei, a furniture salesman. He said his monthly salary recently was halved to 5,000 yuan ($730) because of poor business conditions.
"The best the Chinese people can do is face up to the challenges together. I can survive. So can China," he said.

Last month, China's government announced a four-trillion-yuan stimulus package that included ramping up spending on infrastructure construction for the next two years, saying the measure would boost economic growth at home and help support a slumping global economy.

On Thursday, China's National Development and Reform Commission, which sets industrial policy, said it was cutting state-set prices on gasoline by about 14% and diesel by about 18%. The cuts will help trucking companies, factories and others squeezed by high fuel costs. Some of the price cuts will be offset by a rise in fuel taxes, but consumers are expected to see significant savings.

In his speech, Mr. Hu made little mention of political or environmental overhauls, an issue for critics who say changes in those areas lag far behind China's economic progress.
The president said only that China would stick to a social system and development path "chosen by its own people" and not bow to foreign pressure.

Mr. Hu's calls for "stability" appeared to indicate some anxiety about popular unrest. Across China, protests against local officials and poor labor conditions have gone on for years, but in recent weeks, worker protests have appeared to gain traction.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122961384226218239.html
 
Let's not be somewhat naive...Corruption happens everywhere, Its effect on poorer countries is more flagrant/noticeable...It is in no way an obstacle to Development. Where's Chicago today? What about Las Vegas? What about Los Angeles? Moscow?

Corruption happens everywhere, yes, but as deep as it does in africa. Did you have to bribe somebody to get your job, or to get into that college? I dont think so. This type of corruption is rampant in africa. While I cant speak for the whole of africa, I will use nigeria for an example. Nigeria makes a lot of money from oil, yet the countries infastructure is in ruins. The police are still using the same guns from the sixties and use this as an excuse not to engage bandits in shoot outs. In america corrupt officals do get caught, charged and thrown in jail. In nigeria no senior member of goverment has ever been put in prison for stealing money. Do a search on Sani ABacha. He and his son stole billions of dollars. The son was arrested, detained but not charged. The money was taken from him...well not really..they left him and his family with...$100 million. My point is in Nigeria you can be corrupt and have no fear of ever going to jail, in America they can come for you at anytime.
 
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