Official 2025 NFL Discussion!!!

[HotNixon36]

Game saving sack.. literally would be 2 and 2 if he dosent make that tackle

47 million dollar player should propel you to SB contention. GB does not have a SB defense. They could not even stop Dak without CeeDee. Their defense is average. He has 2.5 sacks in 4 games, not awful, but not worth 47 million.

Like Jerry said, "He was here 4 years, and we did not make the SB."

 

[jawnswoop]

This why stats full of shit. He got shut down
By backups.

Nope, people use stats to prove a point.

I've seen you do it along with others as well.

But because it's someone you're mad about is when stats is bullshit. How sway?

 

[dtownsfinest]

I don't believe that to be true, dudes saying who's better or who deserve more praise like the other is some kind is scrub because he's not throwing the ball for a lot of yards or saying he gotta do less when he's playing hard out there. Also, thinking any QB can play this position on the eagles.

Yeah but nobody says he’s bad. The only time people bring that stuff up is when taking about if he’s elite or compairing him to other guys.

 

[HotNixon36]

Yeah the whole “hate Hurts” shit is overkill.

Yeah, just because Hurts is not praised, or Eagles not talked about in sports media like other teams, don't mean its hate. Justs mean they are not viewed by everybody the same. Nobody says Hurts is a bad qb, just not seen as elite, stats wise. Fantasy Football is big, stats get you paid.

Just keep winning, let that speak for you.

People respect the Eagles and Hurts, just not going to get praise like some other teams.

 

[dtownsfinest]

Nope, people use stats to prove a point.

I've seen you do it along with others as well.

But because it's someone you're mad about is when stats is bullshit. How sway?

He literally got a sack from Dak running. No yards loss. It’s cool to use stats but they don’t tell the whole story. Nobody pays 188 million to watch him against backups. But it wasn’t no Lane Johnson or Trent Williams out there.

 

[dtownsfinest]

Yeah, just because Hurts is not praised, or Eagles not talked about in sports media like other teams, don't mean its hate. Justs mean they are not viewed by everybody the same.

Just keep winning, let that speak for you.

People respect the Eagles and Hurts, just not going to get praise like some other teams.

That’s all it is. People don’t praise him so it’s hate.

 

[HotNixon36]

Yeah the whole “hate Hurts” shit is overkill.

Yeah, just because Hurts is not praised, or Eagles not talked about in sports media like other teams, don't mean its hate. Justs mean they are not viewed by everybody the same.

Just keep winning, let that speak for you.

People respect the Eagles and Hurts, just not going to get praise like some other

That’s all it is. People don’t praise him so it’s hate.

He is respected, not feared

 

[jawnswoop]

I don't think they hate him (overused word when people critique somebody), they just don't see him as a great QB, with great Fantasy numbers.

He is a winner, for sure, great leader, his numbers just don't pop out. He is a very smart QB. His runs keep teams off balance, but nobody fears him in the vertical pass game like that, even though he has proven he can hit the deep ball if it is there.

The other top quarterbacks are forced to carry their teams, and have no one to lean on if the pass game is failing. Even Lamar is dealing with a very bad pass defense now, he is under pressure to score every drive, just to keep it close.

That's their opinion and they're entitled to it just like you and the rest out there.

I believe he's a great QB and I'm glad he's playing for my eagles. He really set the standard and he's reaping the benefits and reward for it.

Howie done a great job constructing this team which isn't hurts fault for how good this team has been being STACKED.

Just because other QB's had to carry a team doesn't make them great because it's more than that of what makes a QB great.

I heard people say Lamar, burrow, and mahomes had the talent to make it to the promise land with mahomes being able to achieve that with hurts being ranked below them but when he finally won a SB, they still find ways to say he's not this or that.

At this point it's whatever.....

He'll be a future first ballot HOF with multiple rings after it's all said and done!

 

[tallblacknyc]

47 million dollar player should propel you to SB contention. GB does not have a SB defense. They could not even stop Dak without CeeDee. There defense is average. He has 2.5 sacks in 4 games, not awful, but not worth 47 million.

Like Jerry said, "He was here 4 years, and we did not make the SB."

Dude this the first time anyone scored more than 20 points on them this season.. I don’t think anyone else could have said that the first 3 games this yr.. even the undefeated teams had allowed 20+ points prior to this day

13, 18, 13 this is what teams scored against them b4 tonight

 

[jawnswoop]

Yeah but nobody says he’s bad. The only time people bring that stuff up is when taking about if he’s elite or compairing him to other guys.

I still disagree with their takes when they compare guys and I would take hurts over the guys they think is better than him.

 

[geechiedan]

Right, people want hurts to throw 500 yards every damn game to give him respect and due.

People sating he be doing less work like playing QB is a easy job. Hurts gotta run and throw the ball along with calling plays in real-time.

Not even him being a SB champion is enough to give him the respect he deserves.

Like I've said before, it's pointless posting clips about what bomani and cam newton said because they're gonna always find something to hate about hurts.

Crazy some women know the game better than men speaking with logic.

its incredible to watch the moving goalposts and begrudging compliments. He does great and its "sure Hurts is good BUT..."

look at this shit

look at that last category.and mayfield STILL ranks ABOVE hurts in most comparisons.. the shits a joke!

 

[HotNixon36]

That's their opinion and they're entitled to it just like you and the rest out there.

I believe he's a great QB and I'm glad he's playing for my eagles. He really set the standard and he's reaping the benefits and reward for it.

Howie done a great job constructing this team which isn't hurts fault for how good this team has been being STACKED.

Just because other QB's had to carry a team doesn't make them great because it's more than that of what makes a QB great.

I heard people say Lamar, burrow, and mahomes had the talent to make it to the promise land with mahomes being able to achieve that with hurts being ranked below them but when he finally won a SB, they still find ways to say he's not this or that.

At this point it's whatever.....

He'll be a future first ballot HOF with multiple rings after it's all said and done!

Your an Eagles fan, what else are you supposed to say?

Like everybody has said, no one has said Hurts is a bad qb, called him a winner, maybe a Hall of Famer. There is no reason to defend a SB winner that nobody has called trash.

Russ played in a SB, won one, lost one, some are questioning his future HOF status. Russ has a top 5 QBR rating all time. But, people never saw him as elite.

Eli, won 2 SBs, 60K yards passing, nobody ever saw him as elite, some question his HOF status.

Big Ben and Troy Aikman won SBs, never heard anybody really call them Elite, its not hate. Its no need to defend champions.

It ain't hate, some just value different strengths or have different criteria for calling someone elite.

 

[jawnswoop]

its incredible to watch the moving goalposts and begrudging compliments. He does great and its "sure Hurts is good BUT..."

look at this shit

look at that last category.and mayfield STILL ranks ABOVE hurts in most comparisons.. the shits a joke!

You do realize baker has been in the league longer than hurts, right?

Of course his stats is gonna be be better because he's a vet.

 

[HotNixon36]

its incredible to watch the moving goalposts and begrudging compliments. He does great and its "sure Hurts is good BUT..."

look at this shit

look at that last category.and mayfield STILL ranks ABOVE hurts in most comparisons.. the shits a joke!

Yeah, Passing yards and passing TDs are the first thing looked at when critiqing QBs or putting them in "elite" status.

Like I said, Fantasy Football is big. Most of the highest paid qbs put up numbers, they are not paid based on team wins.

 

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[HotNixon36]

You do realize baker has been in the league longer than hurts, right?

Of course his stats is gonna be be better because he's a vet.

They run a different offense, people do not care about the what, how's, and why's.

They look at his "fantasy" numbers and stats. Its billions made and lost on these QBs stats every week.

A lot of people don't pull for teams, just look at indivual stats.

 

[darth frosty]

 

[jawnswoop]

Your an Eagles fan, what else are you supposed to say?

Like everybody has said, no one has said Hurts is a bad qb, called him a winner, maybe a Hall of Famer. There is no reason to defend a SB winner that nobody has called trash.

Russ played in a SB, won one, lost one, some are questioning his future HOF status. Russ has a top 5 QBR rating all time. But, people never saw him as elite.

Eli, won 2 SBs, 60K yards passing, nobody ever saw him as elite, some question his HOF status.

Big Ben and Troy Aikman won SBs, never heard anybody really call them Elite, its not hate. Its no need to defend champions.

It ain't hate, some just value different strengths or have different criteria for calling someone elite.

I did say everyone is entitled to their opinion which is fine.

People gonna feel how they want with one side saying this while the other side saying something else.

That's fine people having their own criteria of who they feel is elite and I'll have my own along with everyone else having their own input as well.

I never said anyone called hurts being a SB champion trash but would it be fair to say that stats are bullshit like dude above said when I posted micah stats against his team?

At the end of the day it would be best for everyone to just stick with who they like and value their opinion highly.

I just know hurts don't get the same fair treatment & criticism like the ones that get talked about the most. That was my point and others as well about hurts.

 

[darth frosty]

 

[jawnswoop]

They run a different offense, people do not care about the what, how's, and why's.

They look at his "fantasy" numbers and stats. Its billions made and lost on these QBs stats every week.

A lot of people don't pull for teams, just look at indivual stats.

Perfect reason why I don't gamble.

That's why I don't take these stats personally.

Like I said, people love to use stats to prove a point to measure up how good or bad a player is when it's any given sunday.

 

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[dtownsfinest]

I still disagree with their takes when they compare guys and I would take hurts over the guys they think is better than him.

Of course. You a Eagle fan lol.

 

[RUDY RAYYY MO]

Not worth 47 million...

Yep. Skip broke down his un worthiness

 

[jawnswoop]

Can't tell jerry shit....

He had his chest out when he said that....

 

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[jawnswoop]

It’s not adding up for the Cleveland Browns.Myles Garrett and their defense are legit.They have offensive weapons in Jerry Jeudy and David Njoku.Yet they start the season 1-3.Perhaps a change at QB could solve their problem?After their loss to the Lions, the Browns have a chance to string together a couple of wins.Starting Week 5, their next 5 opponents will be against teams that failed to make it past the wild card last season:VikingsSteelersDolphinsPatriotsJetsAt QB, do they continue to ride the vet?Or is it time they give one of their 2 rookie quarterbacks a chance?Everyone knows Joe Flacco was never going to be the long-term solution in Cleveland.And with how he’s looked to start this season, it shouldn’t be long till their rookies take the reins. Because the longer they wait, the harder it becomes to salvage their season.

 

[HotNixon36]

Wh

Of course. You a Eagle fan lol.

Subjective team fans, hard to argue with.

Biased team fans are not looking at numbers, stats, or facts, their minds are made up. I get it, its normal. I was at a bar with a diehard Steelers fan, he thinks Aaron Rodgers is still great, because the Steelers are 3-1.

Its like a mother or father defending their son, no matter what somebody else or thinks, he can do no wrong.