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NightMare Paint said:
It's got to be two white men. Even on the left that's the "preferred" aesthetic to the general population. The question is who has the juice to be a VP next to Gavin.
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This. I love Jasmine and the energy she brings but it would be a no go for me. I've heard from black folks who voted for Kamala say she is too "ghetto" on and off the screen and that's never a good look.

You can be a democrat, but conservative in how you present yourself.
 
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DC_Dude said:
Man take that BS over to Vanderbilt

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They think HBCUs are going to react like these PWIs, but where they fail at is black folks doesn’t take this type of bait, especially on a college campus.

These HBCU kids are smart in a different way. They may not know how to blueprint well, but they are quick, passionate, and non-confrontational to outsiders. And they are always ready to discuss.
 
I have a fondness for Gavin and really appreciate AOC, but both come with significant controversies; Gavin supports sanctuary cities and had previously offered free healthcare to undocumented immigrants. AOC has some radical proposals that might not be well-received in many states. Just think about how a commercial targeting these two would look! I'm still a fan of Andy Beshear and Wes Moore; Andy continues to succeed in a predominantly Republican state and doesn’t carry the same baggage as Gavin and AOC. Moore has shown he can bring about positive changes in his state and has evidence to back it up; his main drawback is related to obtaining his brass star. Ultimately, the key focus should be on winning.
 
4 Dimensional said:
They think HBCUs are going to react like these PWIs, but where they fail at is black folks doesn’t take this type of bait, especially on a college campus.

These HBCU kids are smart in a different way. They may not know how to blueprint well, but they are quick, passionate, and non-confrontational to outsiders. And they are always ready to discuss.
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Pack Rat said:
I have a fondness for Gavin and really appreciate AOC, but both come with significant controversies; Gavin supports sanctuary cities and had previously offered free healthcare to undocumented immigrants. AOC has some radical proposals that might not be well-received in many states. Just think about how a commercial targeting these two would look! I'm still a fan of Andy Beshear and Wes Moore; Andy continues to succeed in a predominantly Republican state and doesn’t carry the same baggage as Gavin and AOC. Moore has shown he can bring about positive changes in his state and has evidence to back it up; his main drawback is related to obtaining his brass star. Ultimately, the key focus should be on winning.
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I agree on all points. A Mark Kelly from Arizona and Wes Moore would be to my likening though.
 
kidmegaii said:
Honestly getting elected isn't the issue, delivering on the needed change is the problem. No more cop outs, excuses.
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Based on that, I'd rather see her keep her current seat or take the Senate seat and keep doing work from her current branch.

For better or worse, the right has already branded AOC with every negative flag they can. And it's not like we were going to get them to change their votes anyway, but it's probably best just to keep them from pushing that narrative for the entire election cycle.

In a perfect world, I'd like to see her push the new charge for change for at least a few more cycles, and then move on to a President/VP run a little later. But to be fair, that's how I felt about Obama, and I guess it was his time when he thought it was his time.
 
Pack Rat said:
I have a fondness for Gavin and really appreciate AOC, but both come with significant controversies; Gavin supports sanctuary cities and had previously offered free healthcare to undocumented immigrants. AOC has some radical proposals that might not be well-received in many states. Just think about how a commercial targeting these two would look! I'm still a fan of Andy Beshear and Wes Moore; Andy continues to succeed in a predominantly Republican state and doesn’t carry the same baggage as Gavin and AOC. Moore has shown he can bring about positive changes in his state and has evidence to back it up; his main drawback is related to obtaining his brass star. Ultimately, the key focus should be on winning.
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That's the problem we are lways trying to water down the message to satisfy people who will never vote for democrats. Always worried about the other side when they ain't worried about us. When we water down the message we make our base less excited which lessens turnout and we lose. They turn up their base no matter what. They will make up some shit to turn up their base. We want to water down our issues to make them palatable to billy bob in his trailer and he could give two shits about an issue.
 
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