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Put Jalen Hurts on that Panthers team that went 15-1 , he wins the superbowl. He out played Mahomes both superbowl. That Panther’s defense was top 5 that year,
Exactly, hurts make smart decision as well with the ball in his hands.

I mean even after that first superbowl loss, he learned from it to become better and won it going there again. So, the same can't be said about cam.
 
Yeah, say no more.


I fucks with Cam tho, I remember sitting at Big Cat Junior day at Auburn( my cuz was on a visit).
Cam walks thru the door, my peeps said “there go Cam”
I turnt around and said “that’s the qb, dude looks like a fucking linebacker”

Dude lit the room up with his personality and smile. He spoke to damn near everyone, It was crazy.

So I’m no Cam Newton hater. I just realize and understand folks thoughts don’t always matter, even if I’m a fan or not
 
Dawg I actually was think this also…

Cam probably played with a quarter of the talent that the eagles have.

I’m not hating on Hurts tho
That’s what I’m saying like if people want to knock Cam flaws fine. But they posting team stats to discredit what Cam was? Naw we not gonna do that. We not gonna revise history to try to make a point. Cam had accuracy issues at times for sure.

But to prove that it prove flaws in his game you gotta bring up team accomplishments?
 
Put Jalen Hurts on that Panthers team that went 15-1 , he wins the superbowl. He out played Mahomes both superbowl. That Panther’s defense was top 5 that year,
That’s cap. They don’t even make the playoffs with Jalen Hurts. Naw yall not gonna do this shit man. We can talk about Cam career but that Super Bowl year he was great. He was Superman for real.
 
Nah, they should be worried about that shit. If they're flipping tickets for chump change compared to their salaries, imagine what they would do with gambling?
Yeah but this ain’t chump change to them is it? I assumed this was like people who are fringe guys or who don’t make much. If these are guys who make 40 million a year then I’d be shocked.
 
Yeah but this ain’t chump change to them is it? I assumed this was like people who are fringe guys or who don’t make much. If these are guys who make 40 million a year then I’d be shocked.

If it's a 100 people I doubt it's just the dudes making the minimum. I'm sure it's people making millions and that's chump change. If you make $5 mil selling a ticket for $10,000 or $20,000 is chump change.
 
See, here's the difference. We give the Eagles props. Finest and I just gave the Giants props. and we give the Commanders props. And we don't expect no props back. But you niggas get mad when we talk shit back lmao.

Like this very interaction. Niggas talk shit, when we talk shit back it's a problem. Are we shit talking or not?

And your focus should be on them being defending champs. Which is why it's so hilarious that your Eagles folk spend so much time talking about the Cowboys. Like daily.

And you know for a fact that people do care about the Cowboys, love them or hate them. That's why the sports media will ALWAYS choose a segment on the Cowboys over one on the Eagles. And I don't even like it. I think the Eagles should get more segments being the champs, but that's what's wrong with sports media. The Cowboys may not win, but they are the most relevant team in the NFL. They get the highest ratings and make the most money. Eagles are worth 6.75 bil. Cowboys worth 10 bil. That's relevance.

Now me as a fan, I'd trade that shit for another ring, but we're stuck with Jerry. And I will give the Eagles props AGAIN for putting together the team they have and getting it done.


But, to put it in perspective...


"The sports media is obsessed with the Dallas Cowboys. This is no surprise. They are the most popular team in the most popular sport in the country. They are “America’s Team” for a reason.

But it’s also been 28 years since Dallas won the Super Bowl or even advanced to the NFC Championship Game. In that time, Super Bowl viewership has grown from 94 million for Super Bowl XXX to over 120 million for Super Bowl LVIII. Also, 13 different NFL teams have won a Super Bowl title since the Cowboys last lifted the Lombardi Trophy. Patrick Mahomes was just four months old in January 1996.


Yes, the Cowboys are popular. But so are the Lakers, Yankees, Notre Dame, and other teams that have been institutions for decades. Yet none get near the year-round attention, scrutiny, and fixation that Dallas does.

But just how deep does this obsession go? Is it obnoxious, unhealthy, or overstated? How much of a crutch are America’s Team for the 24/7 news cycle of sports debate and discussion? How often does the sports media talk about the Cowboys, Dak Prescott, and Jerry Jones ad infinitum for seemingly no reason at all?

To find out, Awful Announcing ran an experiment last week.

AA tracked the two main sports networks that run daytime sports talk programming, ESPN and FS1, for Monday, March 25 through Friday, March 29 to track just how many times they talked about the Cowboys. This week was selected because there was absolutely nothing of note happening with the Dallas Cowboys – no games, no signings, no trades, no controversial comments, nothing. Even Dallas Cowboys blog sites are talking about the team’s “slow offseason.”










It also coincided with a ridiculously packed time in the sports calendar – March Madness, Opening Day, and the stretch run of the NBA and NHL seasons.

We did a closed captioning search for three terms – “Cowboys,” “Dak,” and “Jerry” for Jerry Jones. (We made sure to sort out the few references to recently traded wide receiver Jerry Jeudy.) While consuming this much sports debate about the Cowboys should come with a warning from the CDC, these are the lengths that AA is willing to go to inform its readers.

Here are the results, which uncovered a few notable trends and surprises.

“Cowboys” Mentions By Network

FS1: 106
ESPN: 38

“Dak” Mentions By Network

FS1: 103
ESPN: 35

“Jerry” Mentions By Network

FS1: 89
ESPN: 19

Total Mentions By Network

FS1: 298
ESPN: 92

Featured Segments By Network

FS1: 26
ESPN: 12

Analysis

Incredibly, FS1 blew ESPN out of the water when it came to the Cowboys by a 3-1 margin. In fact, FS1 might as well just label themselves the Cowboys Sports Network with how much airtime they devoted to the franchise in the middle of the NFL offseason.

Naturally, most of the segments centered around QB Dak Prescott. “Dak” was mentioned over 100 times this week on FS1 with conversations about his contract, his future in Dallas, and whether or not he can win a Super Bowl. Most of it was incredibly boring, the kind of paint-by-numbers stuff that would probably put even diehard Cowboys fans to sleep for how repetitive and pointless it all is. Not even Dak Prescott cares about Dak Prescott being disrespected in March like Emmanuel Acho does.



But some moments also made you question whether or not you were living in a kind of alternate universe like Skip Bayless arguing that Shedeur Sanders is a better QB than Prescott in some kind of AI-generated SEO fever dream.





FS1 also gives an inordinate amount of attention to Cowboys owner and GM Jerry Jones, mentioning him more times than every other athlete we could find except Prescott and LeBron James. (More on that in a minute.) It’s almost like the network’s talk shows are the children of Succession fighting over the love and money of their billionaire family patriarch.

Over on ESPN, the conversation was much more muted and well-balanced with the network actually finding real-time stories to talk about most of the time. However, ESPN also fell into some of the same tired tropes with most of the Cowboys content focused on Dak’s contract.

If you just landed on Earth, you would think Dak Prescott would be a breakthrough generational athlete (Caitlin Clark), a three-time championship-winning quarterback (Patrick Mahomes), or he was the greatest of all time (Tom Brady). Nope, he’s a guy who has made the same amount of Pro Bowls as Andy Dalton.



FS1 Breakdown By Show

The Carton Show: 87
Undisputed: 64
The Herd: 71
First Things First: 40
Speak: 36

Incredibly, the show that talked about the Cowboys the most was not their number one fan Skip Bayless and Undisputed. It fell behind both The Herd and the overall winner – The Carton Show. In fairness, Carton (like Get Up) repeats segments often as an early morning show, so perhaps that inflates their numbers. However, Colin Cowherd was the only show to mention the Cowboys, Prescott, and Jones every single day.

ESPN Breakdown By Show

Get Up: 54
First Take: 30
The Pat McAfee Show: 6
Around the Horn: 3
Pardon The Interruption: 0

There’s a reason why Pardon The Interruption has been regarded as the gold standard and has never been topped in sports debate shows – because they actually discuss topics that matter. PTI didn’t mention the Cowboys once all week, which is like finding an oasis in the middle of the sports talk desert. On the other hand, Get Up led their Tuesday show with Cowboys talk as the show that had the most Cowboys chatter. First Take predictably followed next. But it’s also worth giving a shoutout to McAfee, who has shown a real willingness to shine a spotlight on non-traditional sports talk favorites with a unique blend of content.

Comparisons

Just how out of whack was the Cowboys coverage compared to what else was going on in the sports world? Here’s a comparison of some other athletes and teams who were featured in the news last week to see how it fared overall.

“LeBron” Mentions

FS1: 181
ESPN: 47

“Caitlin Clark” Mentions

FS1: 6
ESPN: 40

“Mahomes” Mentions

FS1: 60
ESPN: 40

“Draymond” Mentions

FS1: 51
ESPN: 58

“UConn” Mentions

FS1: 33
ESPN: 64

“Caleb” Mentions

FS1: 71
ESPN: 69

“Opening Day” Mentions

FS1: 13
ESPN: 29

Analysis

As expected, the only athlete that could match talk about the Cowboys was the one and only LeBron James. But again, FS1 was way more infatuated with James and the Lakers than ESPN was this week. LeBron received an incredible 181 mentions on FS1 airwaves but at least A) he’s one of the two best players in his sport’s history and B) he’s actually in-season. Notably, the gap between ESPN and FS1 in the amount of LeBron talk was even more extreme than the Cowboys, which is almost hard to believe.

Patrick Mahomes got a decent number of mentions on both networks, mostly in general segments around QBs and the NFL. Meanwhile, newsmakers like Draymond Green and Caleb Williams were covered similarly by ESPN and FS1. The mentions of Opening Day mostly consisted of promotional ad reads or passing mentions on Thursday.

One huge break the other way was in ESPN’s extra coverage of college basketball, specifically the NCAA Women’s Tournament. Yes, Bristol has the rights to televise the event so it makes sense for them to promote it. But ESPN was way more invested in women’s basketball, and Caitlin Clark specifically, than FS1. In fact, Clark only got a few passing mentions in a couple of quick segments on various shows. She was not mentioned at all on Undisputed according to our closed captioning search. FS1 seems totally uninterested in capturing what is a rapidly growing fanbase.



Overall Thoughts

Most daytime sports shows have seen ratings continue to rise over the last year. In fact, that’s true for pretty much everyone except Skip Bayless and Undisputed And these shows wouldn’t be talking about the Cowboys so much if it didn’t maintain ratings. That’s business after all. It’s why arguably the two most influential “Embrace Debate” figures took opposite sides of Cowboys fandom with Bayless playing up his loyalty and Stephen A. Smith portraying himself as the ultimate troll.

In an ideal world, more diverse topics could be seen as worth diving into for these shows. And maybe we’re slowly making progress there with things like McAfee taking his show to Iowa to cover the women’s tournament.

But when it comes to editorial quality and interesting, relevant sports discussion, the chasm between ESPN and FS1 is jaw-dropping. FS1 is an oldies station that only plays “Every Breath You Take” and “Here I Go Again” every hour of every day. ESPN at least tries to balance playing the hits with what’s happening in the here and now. Shoutouts to McAfee, Around the Horn, and PTI for clearing the rest of the field there by far.

At the end of the day, ESPN may be slightly obsessed with the Cowboys, but not to an egregious level. FS1’s obsession is just flat-out unhealthy.

And remember, this study comes at a time when the Cowboys are going through the quietest part of a quiet offseason. Just imagine how insane the sports talk shows will be when the Cowboys actually move on from Dak, or fire Mike McCarthy, or Jerry Jones tries to usurp Roger Goodell in a coup d’etat. Then it’ll truly be inescapable."

Man, you really wasting your time arguing with a fan of a team with less than 4 SB wins?

That is like Jay Z responding to a Drake diss, or Lebron responding to Anthony Edwards. There legacies are etched in stone for the next 100 years, they never have to win again.

The Eagles are a good franchise, current Super Bowl champs, but their legacy or relevance in football culture will never be as big as the Cowboys, 49ers, or Steelers, even though they have had some SB success in the 2000's.

They not even in Washington or Giants class yet, as far as team legacies. Give them time to catch up, before you waste that energy.
 
If it's a 100 people I doubt it's just the dudes making the minimum. I'm sure it's people making millions and that's chump change. If you make $5 mil selling a ticket for $10,000 or $20,000 is chump change.
I mean there’s over 100 practiced squad guys and rookies out there. Just have to wait and see if a list comes out.
 
If it's a 100 people I doubt it's just the dudes making the minimum. I'm sure it's people making millions and that's chump change. If you make $5 mil selling a ticket for $10,000 or $20,000 is chump change.
53 dudes per team( not including staff) , 32 teams that’s 1,696 players… average nfl career 3-4 yrs.. it easily be people that’s not bigtime salary player.. besides this is not new in fact I forgot what players like a few yrs ago completely explained this hustle and how they did this to make extra money especially back in the day when contracts weren’t guaranteed and their pay wasn’t close to what it is now
 
One thing I didn’t understand and would’ve had to be there to see it

Was dude being whatever during interviews, I ain’t buying that shit

 
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