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Very impractical until you F1 SBS and add a stock...
My Brother wanted to buy one of these. I told him, "Leave that novelty shit alone. Get a Mosberg 500 or 590. They'll serve you way better."
Gotta convert that out of the sporter configuration ASAP. I haven't looked at my Saiga in over 15 years.
Yeah, I have the Catamount and the Saiga conversion parts... still uninstalled for the magwell
bruh..thanks 4 this....I got the last of the tromix converted Saiga 12s in the US. its a monster with a drum. but the pro mag keep jammin and i been looking for a replacement...now i know.
I have 2 Henry's and a Marlin 1895 in 45-70.
I don't hunt but the Marlin is a tack driver at 100 yards with Remington 300gr jhp.
I JUST watched John wick 4,,,if you seen it. Now I want one lol
my uncle has a 30-30,.....but i've never shot it.
I've always wanted to tho
I was tempted to get a Saiga 12 for the longest. Ended up getting a Bullpup and another AR style shotgun instead.
Ooooh yeah must have. Can't take em to the local ranges because they would try to lynch me but I shoot steel in the country on private land nowadays
How do you like the Bullpup?
best shotgun i've ever bought and used.
very little recoil........and it looks mean as fuck.
Question, Im about to make a purchase, trying to decide between the P365 X Macro or AXG Legion, any thoughts on either?
No thoughts on them...get a Canik
I have a canik tti combat, Im not asking for alternatives, Im asking about the 2 I mentioned
Go with the Macro and a Icarus or Mischief Machine grip module. Legions are cool but, there are better aftermarket grip modules available.
Ballistic question for the Fam.
What are your experiences using a "subsonic" rifle cartridge, unsurppressed? Other than sound, does the performance change at all?
I plan on using my new lever action with a heavy all copper .500 grain bullet, traveling at subsonic speed. This so I can hit the animal really hard at 100 yards or less. I don't want the bullet to pass through.
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What are your experiences using a "subsonic" rifle cartridge, unsurppressed? Other than sound, does the performance change at all?
I plan on using my new lever action with a heavy all copper .500 grain bullet, traveling at subsonic speed. This so I can hit the animal really hard at 100 yards or less. I don't want the bullet to pass through.
(Cans are not allowed in California).
The performance will change in that you will need to make adjustments accordingly. The suppressor adds in variables that makes changes to the impact trajectory and vice versa. If you're not shooting for precision, it won't be as obvious. The speed of the round won't be affected though.
I plan on getting .500 grain cartridges, and sighting the rifle in at 50 yards, that way I'm on at 100 yards as well. The heavy bullets should allow me to hit say a wild hog, and go through the shoulder plate and break bones without destroying too much meat.
I'm not worried about precision per se; this is going to be a hunting rifle. I'm not worried about the trajectory outside of 100 yards as well. I just want to make sure that a bullet going that slow will still do damage at that close range.
Thanks for your input, Brother.
I've used subsonic 220gr rounds inside of 100yds on hogs and deer and successfully knocked them down each time, never got a passthrough. I've never done it unsuppressed though. From the data I've seen shooting suppressed "usually" adds a negligible velocity boost to a round due to more time for the gas to build up, but there are so many other variables like the the suppressor type, round type, barrel length. Bottom line based on my experience shooting rounds roughly half the weight you're gonna use inside 100yds I had success, and your accuracy/velocity would only be affected minimally whether you suppressed or not.
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Thank you, Brother.
What you're saying seems to be the consensus.
Either way I would recommend creating a DOPE sheet collecting the data for your zero suppressed and nonsuppressed so that you know exactly what turret adjustments you need to make at certain distances off the rip as opposed to needing to use your reticle on the fly to make adjustments. Will make things easier & save you some time.
This is some sound advice right here. Thank you, Brother.
I usually don't keep data, because all I need is usually on the box of new ammo. That's been a good start for me, but this time is a little different because of the short distance.
The data I was really seeking is called the "Point Blank Range." I didn't know what it called when I first posed the question in the thread. The answers you all provided lead me down a positive rabbit hole, which put me in the right place.
Since the distance is so short, instead of using a scope, I'm going to use a "peep sight" on this one.
Again... the information you've all provided was extremely helpful, Fam.
Thank you.
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