People mad at Noah Lyles for his comment about the NBA

NBA invented basketball. So of course it was the world championship because we were the only ones doing it THEN. Now there are leagues all around the World.

But the NBA is not a worldwide organization. They don't play in other countries (other than exhibitions). I don't think we have a team that's majority owned by foreigners. It's American privilege and NBA fandom that has ya'll jumpin on his neck but the NBA is not a world championship it's an NBA championship. Who gave the NBA power over the world. LOL Ya'll assume the best players in the World play for the NBA but you don't know because all you see is the NBA. LOL


Fifa is a world organization. The world cup is a world championship. The Olympics is a world organization. The NBA is not.
 
Seriously, instead of mentioned all that you said he's thinking about NBA "World" Champions.

And it's more likely that an NBA dude turned him down.
I'm not pulling him out the closet unless he's already done it fam, hahaha

Imma give him the benefit of the doubt. There were a few "soft speaking" mfkrs I knew in high school, those mfkrs was laying chicks DOWN! One married a fine ass redbone.....couldn't believe it, kids and everything. They're still together last I saw on FB
 
He should talk shit. He's world champion. Don't let old glossy lips Charlatan tell you anything different.

More people know who Usain Bolt is than Steph Curry.

Jesse Owens has 10x the historical significance than Jordan. Jesse embrassed Hiter while Jordan was happy slanging shoes to racist Republicans.

As someone who played both ORGANIZED sports he's absolutely correct.

Noah has to compete with people from every inch of the globe.

Anyone can run but not everyone has access to a basketball hoop. If you are really from the hood you would understand that.

Basketball is only a big thing in America and it's predisposed to tall people like Americans.

Track is the very reason the Olympics were created and is the OLDEST sport. 100m is the most coveted title in human history and has way more historical significance than any American title could offer.

The 100m dash and being the fastest man in the world means more and always will in more places than putting a basketball in the world efficiently.

Being the best in basketball is always debatable because its a TEAM sport.

100m World Champion isn't debatable. Either you is or you ain't.

Put some respect on that nigga name. He THE FASTEST HUMAN on the planet. Yall can't even agree who's the goat towel boy let alone player.

From the conversation so far, most of you are showing how Americanly stupid you can be.

Heavyweight Champ, Fastest Man > Any other title.
 
NBA invented basketball. So of course it was the world championship because we were the only ones doing it THEN. Now there are leagues all around the World.

But the NBA is not a worldwide organization. They don't play in other countries (other than exhibitions). I don't think we have a team that's majority owned by foreigners. It's American privilege and NBA fandom that has ya'll jumpin on his neck but the NBA is not a world championship it's an NBA championship. Who gave the NBA power over the world. LOL Ya'll assume the best players in the World play for the NBA but you don't know because all you see is the NBA. LOL


Fifa is a world organization. The world cup is a world championship. The Olympics is a world organization. The NBA is not.

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The best player in the second best league in the world "Euroleague" came to the NBA in 2018. Because that's where the best players play.

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Luka led Madrid to the 2018EuroLeague title, winning the EuroLeague MVP and the Final Four MVP. Doncic was also named the ACB League MVP and won back-to-back EuroLeague Rising Star and ACB Best Young Player awards before taking the leap to the NBA


And we see more than the NBA.
 
I'm not pulling him out the closet unless he's already done it fam, hahaha

Imma give him the benefit of the doubt. There were a few "soft speaking" mfkrs I knew in high school, those mfkrs was laying chicks DOWN! One married a fine ass redbone.....couldn't believe it, kids and everything. They're still together last I saw on FB

He can be as straight as the line that he runs, but he's still



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Give us names of these basketball players playing internationally that are better than NBA players? Every foreign player of note is scouted and if they are talented enough almost always choose to play in the NBA for the salaries, notoriety, and access to the United States (richest country in the world). Ricky Rubio was one of the best Euro players and held out coming to the NBA for awhile. He finally came and he's just a guy in the league. The best players play in the States in the NBA. Noah is pandering to an international crowd that doesn't like "American exceptionalism", dissing his core audience to go after new fans.
FINALLY!!!!!


THIS GOOFY DUDE PANDERING TO THE ANTI-LEBRON/NBA CROWD, and some of us are eating it up.

smh
 
Here is one way to solve this:

Form a 8 teams knockout tournament.
Pick the winners of the best league in each continent and one invitational team.
The winner would only play a maximum of 3 games not too much wear and tear on the body.


The problem is basketball is just not a competitive sport worldwide and NBA being so financially strong I am not sure how interesting that would be.

FiBA is bullshit, the Olympics recently is slumping.
 
FiBA is bullshit, the Olympics recently is slumping.

This is because the risk vs reward is too high

PG fucking shattered his leg in a damn FiBA game and potentially getting injured in the Olympics would fuck up some real $$ for today's NBA stars.

Yeah, yeah, yeah "MJ and them would"...... ya but those days were different days. Back then MJ was THE only brand, now every baller getting paid more than $10mil is a "brand," that's trying to endorse this, that and pivot to other verticals in the off-season to maximize their earnings.....

So playing in those games pretty much for "bragging rights," nah that's not gonna cut it.....


But when the uproar gets loud enough a few billionaires will make a sideline deal and team USA will come back together with some fresh young talent and show the world again why we say "World Champion" at the end of our seasons
 
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The best player in the second best league in the world "Euroleague" came to the NBA in 2018. Because that's where the best players play.

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Luka led Madrid to the 2018EuroLeague title, winning the EuroLeague MVP and the Final Four MVP. Doncic was also named the ACB League MVP and won back-to-back EuroLeague Rising Star and ACB Best Young Player awards before taking the leap to the NBA


And we see more than the NBA.

International players playing in your league does not make it a world league or a world title. If I have a basketball league that's just in NJ and all my franchises are in NJ but I get all the best players from the US to come to my league. Does that make my title the national title? No having the best players is not what a world title is. A world title means you are the best team in the WORLD that year. If you don't play any other teams from any other countries how are you the best TEAM in the WORLD?
 
Noah Lyles is a super charismatic brother. He is no dummy and he isn't a fag.
He is a big deal in track and field and when he cleans up in the Olympics his popularity will go through the roof.

Shit reminds me of when Kanye was playing Taylor Swift like she wasn't shit, well who won that battle?
 
I listened to Chris Brousssard and Rob Parker talk about his comments this morning and they said it's semantics because technically he's right but the best players in the world come to the NBA to play so if the best players in the world are playing in the same league then the champions of that league are the world champions. The majority of these foreign teams stars are American players who couldn't/could no longer cut it in the NBA so that further tells you the NBA is the best league in the world
 
Because you're not. The best soccer players on the planet historically hail from Brazil and Argentina... Not only does the US produce the best basketball players ever , they also have the best league in the world.. Our players have won over 90% of international play since its inception and the worlds best come here for the highest level of competition.

Further, why even bring this shit up? Its bullshit borderline coon pandering and his point was terribly articulated and presented. Why bring up the "Black" sport where his logic doesnt apply? Why not baseball where it actually does (world series)? The idiot doesnt realize hes gonna isolate his base soft shoe cooning , as well as the cac with his "I love the US most times" bullshit. Kid is about to be on a island.

I see a lot of emotional responses to this take. People calling him gay, ignorant and all kinds of shit just because he makes the point that the NBA Champs are considered world champions. Maybe it’s the messenger and not the message, but for a lot of people reacting as if he said the NBA is complete and utter trash is ridiculous.

You know exactly what he meant and he wasn’t wrong about his take. Hell, I’ve always said it that too, but enough to argue about it. Lmao! Y’all act like he just smacked y’all’s mamas or some shit.

No one is arguing that some of the best players in the world play in the NBA. There’s no argument there. No one is arguing that USA team is built with NBA players. To bring up those points doesn’t make what he’s saying invalid. Lmao

There is only one team in the league that is from a different country and that is Toronto. I can understand if the league played teams across seas during the season and those teams had a chance to play for an NBA chip. Obviously, that would be very difficult to manage on a global scale.

So by that point, he’s correct. The league isn’t technically world champs. I get why they say it, but let’s not act like dude is completely off with this take.
best explanation is not about skill set
is about where the league or tournament is being held
nba is the best league nobody going to argue
but its a domestic league

 
International players playing in your league does not make it a world league or a world title. If I have a basketball league that's just in NJ and all my franchises are in NJ but I get all the best players from the US to come to my league. Does that make my title the national title? No having the best players is not what a world title is. A world title means you are the best team in the WORLD that year. If you don't play any other teams from any other countries how are you the best TEAM in the WORLD?

We're talking about the National Basketball Association known around the world as the world's basketball league.

Not the New Jersey Basketball Association but I can tell the level of this conversation so
 
best explanation is not about skill set
is about where the league or tournament is being held
nba is the best league nobody going to argue
but its a domestic league


keone, STOP this! The niggas was trippin.. It made no sense to randomly take a shot at the NBA on some nonsensical bullshit. His premise was wrong. The title "world" champs implies that its the highest level and best of all available competition.. USA basketball proves this in international play and by serving as the league that all the worlds best strive to gain entry in.

And all that aside, going overseas on some pearl clutching shit about the matter is weirdo shit.

Also, fuck Broussard and Rob Parker. I dont give a shit what they have to say on the issue.
 
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International players playing in your league does not make it a world league or a world title. If I have a basketball league that's just in NJ and all my franchises are in NJ but I get all the best players from the US to come to my league. Does that make my title the national title? No having the best players is not what a world title is. A world title means you are the best team in the WORLD that year. If you don't play any other teams from any other countries how are you the best TEAM in the WORLD?
simple as that
 
keone, STOP this! The niggas was trippin.. It made no sense to randomly take a shot at the NBA on some nonsensical bullshit. His premise was wrong. The title "world" champs implies that its the highest level and best of all available competition.. USA basketball proves this in international play and by serving as the league that all the worlds best thrive to gain entry in.

And all that aside, going overseas on some pearl clutching shit about the matter is weirdo shit.

Also, fuck Broussard and Rob Parker. I dont give a shit what they have to say on the issue.
thats a different argument and i agree why even bring it up.

but i am saying what he was saying is not wrong annd the argument that the best players play in the nba is wrong
they are repesenting their cities not countries thats all. u cant imply in sports u have to show it.


aahhahhahha @ fuck them im crying
 
Every country is currently playing in the Fiba World Cup.

So if Cape Verde wins, they'll be the world champions and best basketball team in the world right?

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yes, the usa doesnt take these tournaments seriously if u lose dont say these are not our elite
u dominate every whether fiba or Olympics
again is title not skills set
 


If his ass could dribble a basketball or catch a football, I guarantee you he wouldn't be running track.

Sounds like he's salty that a player riding the pine can make more in a year than he can earn in a lifetime besides endorsements.
 
are u serious again this is not about skills
look at true world champions league then get back
They are true world champions because no other team could beat them. That is factual and can’t be denied.

Dude tried to discredit those players accomplishments which was wrong and he deserved to be flames
 
Let me put it this way. Basketball isn't even the most popular sport amongst black people. Most black people play soccer in EVERY country in the world except one.

If some of you dickheads would have watched the 100m final you would have seen a well represented diaspora.

Basketball is the most popular sport in China and has ZERO NBA players. Maybe if they clone Maubury 100x and mate those with Yao Mings mom clones they my get close.

What really needs to happen is a Diaspora Games in Africa. I rather win that title against the best of the best of the black world in an all black stadium. Fuck all the BS, that could be a party bigger than any carnival.
 
Let me put it this way. Basketball isn't even the most popular sport amongst black people. Most black people play soccer in EVERY country in the world except one.

If some of you dickheads would have watched the 100m final you would have seen a well represented diaspora.

Basketball is the most popular sport in China and has ZERO NBA players. Maybe if they clone Maubury 100x and mate those with Yao Mings mom clones they my get close.

What really needs to happen is a Diaspora Games in Africa. I rather win that title against the best of the best of the black world in an all black stadium. Fuck all the BS, that could be a party bigger than any carnival.

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And the US has "shown" it for the last 75 years young bro.
dont do that big bro bro
u know im not just a fool talking
this point its just wrong leave skills alone
i gave u uer prove
also i gave with u and even kobe sas something about foreign leagues
 
They are true world champions because no other team could beat them. That is factual and can’t be denied.

Dude tried to discredit those players accomplishments which was wrong and he deserved to be flames
assumption is not truth
 
Nobody is denying that Noah is that dude in track & field. The point is that he stoopidly picked a fight that didn't need to be picked. Being technically right (NBA only involves teams in two countries) and being qualitatively right are two different things.

It's like you're going 38 mph in a 35 mph zone. You're speeding...you're breaking the law...a cop has every right to stop and ticket you.

...but we would all say that was a bullshit stop. It was "speeding" but it wasn't really speeding.

NBA Champs are not "World Champs" ... but NBA Champs are the World Champs.



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Noah Lyles is a super charismatic brother. He is no dummy and he isn't a fag.
He is a big deal in track and field and when he cleans up in the Olympics his popularity will go through the roof.

Shit reminds me of when Kanye was playing Taylor Swift like she wasn't shit, well who won that battle?
 
Because you're not. The best soccer players on the planet historically hail from Brazil and Argentina... Not only does the US produce the best basketball players ever , they also have the best league in the world.. Our players have won over 90% of international play since its inception and the worlds best come here for the highest level of competition.

Further, why even bring this shit up? It’s bullshit borderline coon pandering and his point was terribly articulated and presented. Why bring up the "Black" sport where his logic doesnt apply? Why not baseball where it actually does (world series)? The idiot doesnt realize hes gonna isolate his base soft shoe cooning , as well as the cac with his "I love the US most times" bullshit. Kid is about to be on an island.
I 1000% agree
 
NBA invented basketball. So of course it was the world championship because we were the only ones doing it THEN. Now there are leagues all around the World.

But the NBA is not a worldwide organization. They don't play in other countries (other than exhibitions). I don't think we have a team that's majority owned by foreigners. It's American privilege and NBA fandom that has ya'll jumpin on his neck but the NBA is not a world championship it's an NBA championship. Who gave the NBA power over the world. LOL Ya'll assume the best players in the World play for the NBA but you don't know because all you see is the NBA. LOL


Fifa is a world organization. The world cup is a world championship. The Olympics is a world organization. The NBA is not.
BS.

The best players across the world play in the NBA. That is common sense. That in itself shows us we are the best league. We dont need to waste our time playing these scrubs. Our garbage fringe NBA players light their leagues up and start. We would destroy any foreign team, COMBINED. We don't even use our best players anymore and still get medals. They don't play in other countries because it's inferior competition.

I think the world needs another ass whopping just to remind them how far off they are. Lebron, KD, Curry, Ja, Booker, Tatum, Brown, Butler, Fox, Lillard, Ayton, Allen against one NBA player and a team of part time truck drivers and you want to make me think they need to play to decide.
 
He wouldn't have had shit to say if he lost.
He will get humbled sooner than later.

Gregg Popovich said the same thing when he won in the US:





While SAS recklessly throws around the word ignorant with ironic ignorance, his entire argument centered upon the NBA's diversity, he ignores that the NBA's diversity is a modern phenomenon but they called the champion the world champion back when the players were mostly white plumbers!

 
does ANYONE say they are the world champs other than this queer ass dude?


I mean I dont think it says world champions on the trophy right?


man, i wish i never heard this dude talk....im gettin dude from baby boy vibes

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It's literally on every NBA championship hat. The man is right. You might not like it, but he's right.

Noah Lyles is a world champion. He beat folks from all over the world. The world is bigger than America
 
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