For those who experienced loved ones with dementia do you believe this is what they experienced? (warning some eerie ass shit)

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STAGE 1 : 00:00:00 Here we experience the first signs of memory loss. This stage is most like a beautiful daydream. The glory of old age and recollection. The last of the great days. 00:00:00 - A1 - It's just a burning memory 00:03:32 - A2 - We don't have many days 00:07:02 - A3 - Late afternoon drifting 00:10:38 - A4 - Childishly fresh eyes 00:13:36 - A5 - Slightly bewildered 00:15:38 - A6 - Things that are beautiful and transient 00:20:12 - B1 - All that follows is true 00:23:44 - B2 - An autumnal equinox 00:26:31 - B3 - Quiet internal rebellions 00:30:02 - B4 - The loves of my entire life 00:34:06 - B5 - Into each others eyes 00:38:42 - B6 - My heart will stop in joy

STAGE 2 : 00:41:22 The second stage is the self realisation and awareness that something is wrong with a refusal to accept that. More effort is made to remember so memories can be more long form with a little more deterioration in quality. The overall personal mood is generally lower than the first stage and at a point before confusion starts setting in. 00:41:22 - C1 - A losing battle is raging 00:46:01 - C2 - Misplaced in time 00:50:44 - C3 - What does it matter how my heart breaks 00:53:22 - C4 - Glimpses of hope in trying times 00:58:06 - C5 - Surrendering to despair 01:03:09 - D1 - I still feel as though I am me 01:07:17 - D2 - Quiet dusk coming early 01:10:54 - D3 - Last moments of pure recall 01:14:47 - D4 - Denial unravelling 01:19:02 - D5 - The way ahead feels lonely

STAGE 3 : 01:23:17 Here we are presented with some of the last coherent memories before confusion fully rolls in and the grey mists form and fade away. Finest moments have been remembered, the musical flow in places is more confused and tangled. As we progress some singular memories become more disturbed, isolated, broken and distant. These are the last embers of awareness before we enter the post awareness stages. 01:23:17 - E1 - Back there Benjamin 01:27:33 - E2 - And heart breaks 01:31:38 - E3 - Hidden sea buried deep 01:32:59 - E4 - Libet's all joyful camaraderie 01:36:12 - E5 - To the minimal great hidden 01:37:53 - E6 - Sublime beyond loss 01:40:03 - E7 - Bewildered in other eyes 01:41:55 - E8 - Long term dusk glimpses 01:45:29 - F1 - Gradations of arms length 01:47:00 - F2 - Drifting time misplaced 01:51:16 - F3 - Internal bewildered World 01:54:45 - F4 - Burning despair does ache 01:57:22 - F5 - Aching cavern without lucidity 01:58:41 - F6 - An empty bliss beyond this World 02:02:19 - F7 - Libet delay 02:06:15 - F8 - Mournful camaraderie

STAGE 4 : 02:08:53 Post-Awareness Stage 4 is where serenity and the ability to recall singular memories gives way to confusions and horror. It's the beginning of an eventual process where all memories begin to become more fluid through entanglements, repetition and rupture. 02:08:53 - G1 - Stage 4 Post Awareness Confusions 02:31:02 - H1 - Stage 4 Post Awareness Confusions 02:52:55 - I1 - Stage 4 Temporary Bliss State 03:13:58 - J1 - Stage 4 Post Awareness Confusions STAGE 5 : 03:36:12 Post-Awareness Stage 5 confusions and horror. More extreme entanglements, repetition and rupture can give way to calmer moments. The unfamiliar may sound and feel familiar. Time is often spent only in the moment leading to isolation. 03:36:12 - K1 - Stage 5 Advanced plaque entanglements 03:58:49 - L1 - Stage 5 Advanced plaque entanglements 04:21:37 - M1 -

Stage 5 Synapse retrogenesis 04:42:25 - N1 - Stage 5 Sudden time regression into isolation STAGE 6 : 05:04:32 Post-Awareness Stage 6 is without description. 05:04:32 - O1 - Stage 6 A confusion so thick you forget forgetting 05:26:25 - P1 -

Stage 6 A brutal bliss beyond this empty defeat 05:48:02 - Q1 - Stage 6 Long decline is over 06:09:12 - R1 - Stage 6 Place in the World fades away

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My Pops had that shit before he died, and yeah he was defiantly hearing music in head (auditory hallucinations), so I wonder what he was really hearing.
 
Watch the episode Bojack Horseman which is at the end of the 2nd to last series.

It paints a pretty good picture of what it's like.
 
My Grandfather developed Parkinsons in his 70s and by the mid 80 had reached Dimentia.
I never thought I would see it. He was sharp as a whip even as his body was slowing down.
He was always active and took care of himself. Eventually it got to him. Paranoia. Fits of Rage.
Getting in the car and driving like he normally would but really would have no reason for it.
When he was in hospice he had to be restrained a few times.

That hit hard...
A once powerful and active man reduced to a shell mentally because of old age. Makes you think.
I miss that guy. He was a stand up dude.
 
Once I learned that people with dementia forget how to do the simplest things like forget how to breathe and forget how to swallow, THATS when I knew shit was real. That is a horrible way to go. :smh:

I read somewhere forgetting to swallow was basically the end.

When the caretaker comes back to check on them and they still have food in their mouth is probably the best way to go tho.

To me, that means u held on til there was nothing left to hold.
 
THIS - is fucked up thread :sad: .

Its fucked up when you UNWOKE as you AWAKEN you realize you are NOT your body, only YOUR BODY EXPIRES,

the real YOU the LIGHT within aka THE SOUL/spirit.... lives on..

bruh everybody around you, you knew is some form or fashion in your past life...

Only those who built bad karma all their lives, will end up in a realm of NOTHINGNESS....

just dont be that fuckin guy....!!!
 
It's definitely very challenging for the individual and their loved ones. Have seen it up close a handful of times the past 10 - 15 years.

One of our guys at work.

One of my dad's aunts. A number of factors at play when she passed last November. Multiple sclerosis, shingles, dementia, and covid.

My dad's neighbour down the block. Really healthy guy up until his early-70s. Then he became emotional, fearful, and lost. Had outbursts towards his wife & daughter. They had to get him proper care out of safety for themselves. At the same time he would get lost walking a block from his home, and was incontinent. Just 3 years ago him and his son-in-law came by pops' place and helped us with some manual labor. He was the picture of health. Could have easily passed for 60yo. He passed within a year of leaving the family home.

Dad's friend at the moment - mid-70s. He has been battling in recent years ... easily gets lost in conversation. Often will forget stuff that has happened to him 3 days - 3 weeks prior. No recollection whatsoever. Compounded with the fact that his only son - childhood friend of mine - died of a drug overdose 2 months ago. He's still processing the loss ... but just as confused as ever. Fortunately his girlfriend is there to help him along. I talked to my mom recently and she noted his ex-wife (they haven't gotten along for 20+ years) called him back in late-Sept. She was pissed and lashing out. Felt he aided in the son's demise - that he was an enabler. She mentioned there would be a celebration of life held for their son NEXT year on his birthday. When things are a bit safer pandemic-wise. He replied - "I am not sure. I think you should talk to his mom first before planning ..." (she realized how far gone he was). She had to explain she was the mother. She told my mom she called him back a few days later and apologized for lashing out ... saddened her.
 
Its fucked up when you UNWOKE as you AWAKEN you realize you are NOT your body, only YOUR BODY EXPIRES,

the real YOU the LIGHT within aka THE SOUL/spirit.... lives on..

bruh everybody around you, you knew is some form or fashion in your past life...

Only those who built bad karma all their lives, will end up in a realm of NOTHINGNESS....

just dont be that fuckin guy....!!!
I have no problems using woke or spirituality to describe supernatural things, such as death the afterlife even things like DMT, etc.
But my belief is even bigger, I believe the way of the dragon, let me explain.
The snake represents physical science, things you can hold touch, and manipulate (even though they have no hands, how ironic) in other words the physical science. The bird represents the bird or something that can see beyond what can be seen, touched, and manipulated the only problem their knowledge can not be confirmed or verified.
The way of the dragon or winged serpent, incorporates them both knowing when to appropriately use each disciplined.
Now the snake represents masculine energy and the wings represent feminine.
At the present, most blacks are too feminine heavy causing us to be too heavy into mystics religion, superstition, and astrology. While the western is more masculine minded, or too much into the physical world not to be able to deal with things such as death, sex, and birth in totality (we tend to only understand the parts that can be scientifically verified)
My practice is much like that of ancient Egypt, where I learn as much physical science, mathematics, and technology as possible, but also learn about as much spirituality and esoteric knowledge to help shape the philosophy to understanding the unknown, but never would I paint this knowledge as facts or truth. So by combining the Serpent and Bird you get a dragon but the key is knowing when to apply one over the other. For example, your comments on this subject is on point, as far as I am concern, but using esoteric views to explain away Covid-19 or any physical science is just as wrong as science trying to explain death, dreams and birth, sure they can get an outline of what happens, but their explanation will never match the reality of what the person is actually going through.
Oh lose the woke talk, its usually a red flag jargon borrowed from the Matrix to make people who are full of shit seem deep. People with real knowledge never use the word.
 
I have no problems using woke or spirituality to describe supernatural things, such as death the afterlife even things like DMT, etc.
But my belief is even bigger, I believe the way of the dragon, let me explain.
The snake represents physical science, things you can hold touch, and manipulate (even though they have no hands, how ironic) in other words the physical science. The bird represents the bird or something that can see beyond what can be seen, touched, and manipulated the only problem their knowledge can not be confirmed or verified.
The way of the dragon or winged serpent, incorporates them both knowing when to appropriately use each disciplined.
Now the snake represents masculine energy and the wings represent feminine.
At the present, most blacks are too feminine heavy causing us to be too heavy into mystics religion, superstition, and astrology. While the western is more masculine minded, or too much into the physical world not to be able to deal with things such as death, sex, and birth in totality (we tend to only understand the parts that can be scientifically verified)
My practice is much like that of ancient Egypt, where I learn as much physical science, mathematics, and technology as possible, but also learn about as much spirituality and esoteric knowledge to help shape the philosophy to understanding the unknown, but never would I paint this knowledge as facts or truth. So by combining the Serpent and Bird you get a dragon but the key is knowing when to apply one over the other. For example, your comments on this subject is on point, as far as I am concern, but using esoteric views to explain away Covid-19 or any physical science is just as wrong as science trying to explain death, dreams and birth, sure they can get an outline of what happens, but their explanation will never match the reality of what the person is actually going through.
Oh lose the woke talk, its usually a red flag jargon borrowed from the Matrix to make people who are full of shit seem deep. People with real knowledge never use the word.

lol you still have covid discussions on the mind... bruh I told you over and over

I incorporate LOGIC when discussing the plandemic covid...

Nah I aint losing woke, for some reason it gets under the unwoke's feathers,

and reveals them...lol
 
lol you still have covid discussions on the mind... bruh I told you over and over

I incorporate LOGIC when discussing the plandemic covid...

Nah I aint losing woke, for some reason it gets under the unwoke's feathers,

and reveals them...lol
Well just as long as you understand how the scientific method works (formulating hypotheses and creating tests to falsify) when dealing with the physical aspects of the universe and how it is significant it is for understanding the fundamental nature of the physical world we reside in. I know you have the spiritual side covered.
 
Well just as long as you understand how the scientific method works (formulating hypotheses and creating tests to falsify) when dealing with the physical aspects of the universe and how it is significant it is for understanding the fundamental nature of the physical world we reside in. I know you have the spiritual side covered.

Of course.. Life is all about balance..

its just important to know.. you are NOT your body!!

You are much much much bigger than that..

BUUUUT while you are IN your body, do your best to take

care of your earth suit and it will be good to you..
 
Getting back to the thread...
How does the video music I posted compare to what you guys actually witnessed your loved ones go through?
I know it's an artistic representation but does it give you guys a sense of what they went through?
 
i told my wife that if i start to show signs of dementia
i would rather end my life before it got really bad
 
Getting back to the thread...
How does the video music I posted compare to what you guys actually witnessed your loved ones go through?
I know it's an artistic representation but does it give you guys a sense of what they went through?

bruh I ran into a bruh who was a classmate of mine damn near 40 years ago... from 2nd to 8th grade..

and we got to talkin and he told me his moms who was still very healthy had dementia...

and her own grandchildren whom she once loved.. she dont even recognize them...

bruh dude actually said..." Id wish she'd die"

at that point I realized how much pain he was going through.....
 
bruh I ran into a bruh who was a classmate of mine damn near 40 years ago... from 2nd to 8th grade..

and we got to talkin and he told me his moms who was still very healthy had dementia...

and her own grandchildren whom she once loved.. she dont even recognize them...

bruh dude actually said..." Id wish she'd die"

at that point I realized how much pain he was going through.....
Damn, that's rough.
 
i told my wife that if i start to show signs of dementia
i would rather end my life before it got really bad
I've said the same thing.
I watched my Wife's Grandmother suffer through for 5-6 years. There were good day and bad days. It was very difficult to watch both of them go through it. I was almost relieved when Granny went on. Shit got me emotional thinking about it.
 
A lot of dementia or any kind of diminished mental capacity has to do with blood flow to the brain...studies have found seniors/retirees who keep mentally/just as important physically active tend to have more blood to the brain than the average couch potato.

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A lot of dementia or any kind of diminished mental capacity has to do with blood flow to the brain...studies have found seniors/retirees who keep mentally/just as important physically active tend to have more blood to the brain than the average couch potato.

That's what got me about my Grandfather...he was always on the move doing something but his body was not optimal as it once was. He would still get out and cut the grass on a steep ass hill and drive around but couldn't do it as fast.
What's amazing is I have one grandmother still alive in her 90s and she takes things real slow but mentally she's still there.
 
A lot of dementia or any kind of diminished mental capacity has to do with blood flow to the brain...studies have found seniors/retirees who keep mentally/just as important physically active tend to have more blood to the brain than the average couch potato.

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The thing about the human mind is that there are so many variables that can cause similar diagnoses and being that we are not able to physically open it up and actually study it during its natural workings, all we have are a lot of speculative theories that cannot be falsified. But I am sure lack of blood flow causes a good amount of diminished mental capacity in dementia patients but some of the other leading theories range from damaged glial cells in the brain to viruses to viral, fungus, and bacterial infections that cause inflammation in the brain setting off dementia. Of course just because you have one cause doesn't mean there can be compounding factors that lead to dementia, for example, poor blood flow may lead to damaged glial cells and this could trigger dementia in some patients.
But for now, I guess the best thing is to pray that you have the right genetics, try to keep the mental elasticity of your brain flexible by challenging your wits, as you get up in age, and try to live a healthy lifestyle, one the supports healthy blood flow to your brain.
 
I'm going through currently with my mother. She's only 71. I would say she is late stage 2 going into stage 3. In my head I'm thinking this is the last "normal" Thanksgiving and Christmas that I will ever have with her. Over the last year I've gained patience and learn to cherish the moments when she calls on Sunday and ask me how was work today or when I have to repeat things 5 times in a short phone conversation. Because one day very soon, she won't remember me at all.
 
I'm going through currently with my mother. She's only 71. I would say she is late stage 2 going into stage 3. In my head I'm thinking this is the last "normal" Thanksgiving and Christmas that I will ever have with her. Over the last year I've gained patience and learn to cherish the moments when she calls on Sunday and ask me how was work today or when I have to repeat things 5 times in a short phone conversation. Because one day very soon, she won't remember me at all.
How is your mom doing bro?
 
How is your mom doing bro?
Stable for the moment. When I call her she still think I'm her brother on most days. She's also real moody with my dad. She flipped out a few weeks ago when we tried to sell her car. Mind you, the Dr. took her license nearly 2 years ago. Just taking it all in stride. My wife has been a huge help and resource.
 
Way back when, I was around 19 years old. Visiting cousin. We are in the living room. Her mother had her coat on mid-summer & her purse and headed out the door. She says Momma where are you going. Mother said the mall to get some shoes. Daughter says, But momma we are at the shoe store. Sit here next to us. Mother looks confused but sat down. Momma, the young man is getting the shoes you picked, he will be right back. A few minutes later. Momma how do you like your new shoes. Oh my these are nice. Ok ,, momma we will go to the luncheon for sandwich in a moment. Oh nice can we goto the one at Woolworths. Yes momma.

That is all I will ever need to know about dementia
 
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