Grammy's Hip Hop Tribute was foundationally flawed
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casue that ain't a rap song.
but i think the point was to show how rap/hip-hop has influenced just about every genre of music
hell even with this new so-called RnB (especially the females ie. SZA) are not really singing it's like some monotone mumble chants to RnB tracks.
Not for nothing, it felt good to see Public Enemy get their due on the grammys. And Too $hort got off the B word multiple times before the censures realized what happened. Lol
I can at least say I enjoyed that part.
I can at least say I enjoyed that part.
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Willie D pretty much made it clear….
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Willie D pretty much made it clear….
The Oscars and Grammys were started to divide and conquer. Before these award shows actors and studio workers were planning on unionizing against the studio heads. This ain't a theory, look it up.
Actually “King Tim III” from the Fatback Band dropped 3 months before “Rapper’s Delight.”
Jesus Christ
i didn't i do think its funny that they agree to even do this considering the grammys attitude toward black music
Seriously was just curious as to why they said it has been 50 years.
The worst thing is when someone that doesn't know the history tries to explain it.
Willie shouldve had that convo wit Face. He gotta know why they aint fuck wit him. You got baggage brotha....Shit is wack regardless.
I get it he was the originator. Not even disputing that. I know he was the creator. Just was asking why they call his first block party as the start of hip hop. Meaning 1973 to say it's been 50 yrs.
I grew up in NY, Brooklyn, not the Bronx. So not even disputing the where. Just the when, because I grew up in NYC then.
Its all good
Because his set was recognized as one of the 1st (not THE 1st) to have some of the main elements. DJ'ing (Herc, Flash), emceeing (Coke La Rock), B-Boying (Nigga Twins, Clark Kent,)
I grew up in NY, also, Manhattan. In my opinion the origins probably go back to 1971, and started with DJs bringing their equipment outside to the neighborhood parks (they would use certain lamppost sockets as a power source).
I assume they use Kool Herc as a reference point because there was a flyer being circulated that has the date, August 11, 1973. However, there are a few DJs in the metropolitan area that pre date Kool Herc.
If you are interested there are several videos on YouTube made by Michael Waynetv that discuss the origins of the genre.
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Yep, I know well. Grew up around all that. I remember block parties in Flatbush where I grew up, in the 70's, even on my block with dudes playing music with a wall of speakers. Later I was part of a dancehall sound in the 50's, East Flatbush. So grew up somewhat in that scene.
Its why I asked why they called it 50 years. I remember growing up in that time, was just kinda surprised me to say it's "that" old.
Yeah, time has a way of creeping up on you. I remember siting in the lunch room in high school cafeteria, and hearing "Kim Tim IIII, Personality Jock" by the Fatback Band back in September 1979 (We had 4 lunch periods, and not only did the play music, but we had turntables, mics, and other party equipment).
That was the first time I heard rap on commercial radio (WBLS) but, had heard people rapping before at those jams in the park.
It took me about 2 weeks to learn the rap from "King Tim III" only to find out that "Rapper's Delight" by the Sugarhill Gang was now the hot record, lol.
Right after Queen Latifah did UNITY
You are 100% right.
But that shit aint get no burn like that on the radio. I don't know why some people (not saying you) act like it had any impact. That's why even the OG MCs reference the first time they heard Rapper's Delight on the radio and almost never King Tim III.
Fact are facts. Sugarhill Gang's shit introduced Hip Hop to the rest of the world.
Don't know if you're from NY. But back then the rumor was they bit their entire style of rap and became more popular because of the club scene and all that.
But from what I can remember, it's not really biting when you know of nothing else. That was the first rap on wax. They took some of the words and made their rap from it. I remember it, the time.
Listen and you'll hear many things that Sugar Hill bit from, but no one cared.
I'm born and raised in Brooklyn too.
Don't get me wrong, Sugarhill Gang wasn't official like that. They were just the ones who broke through.
If we're being honest, the reason for their success was using Good Times. (Which they eventually got sued for)
It's not my intention to shit on Fatback. I just don't like telling the story different than I remember. And people tend to do that just because Sugarhill Gang was wack. Even so, they opened up the doors.
Wasn't implying you were shiting on FatBack, agree with you about Sugar Hill about opening the doors making it more main stream across the country.
When I was younger yes, now that I see the BS with adult eyes I just catch the replays just happen to tune in when Dre was getting his award and saw the the 50 year celebration. The reason some pioneers probably didn't show up cause old beefs, just said fuck the Grammys or just didn't get asked. Hip Hop still got the last laugh in the end cause early 80's they said it was a fad that would go away in a year now it's the most dominate gerne that's in everything and everywhere.
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