Official 2025 NFL Discussion preseason edition!!!

Idk how y’all do it but I’ve dealing with this heat all my life…
It's not all the time we deal with that. I lived 32 years in the cold and the last twelve in the Central Florida heat. Just moved back and am happy with it.

I'd rather deal with a snow storm or blizzard over a hurricane. When it snows, you just chill in the house, drink, eat and get fat. When its done we dig out and deal with it.

When a hurricane is hitting, you're praying and hoping for the best.
 
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Oh shit!!!!!

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Regarding Kyler Murray and others tearing their ACL....is it me or are ACL injuries becoming too damned prevalent?

Growing up watching football in the 80s/90s I never really heard of cats tearing their ACL. Only remember a few messing them up during off season playing basketball or some shit.

Now it seems like every few weeks, a new player tears their ACL.

Can't blame it all on turf, I mean in the 80s/90s teams used Astroturf which was the worst, and Kyler Murray was playing on grass last night.

Is it because the game is just faster now? It just seems weird how these injuries just seem so normal now.
If you have a few minutes, Colin approved.

Study from 2013 to 2020


379 ACL tears were identified, including 256 (67.6%) during game play and 118 (31.1%) during practice.

In the National Football League (NFL), knee injuries have been shown to represent approximately 20% to 30% of all injuries, 6,20 and 24% of literature on orthopaedic injuries in NFL athletes focuses on the knee. 19 While NFL athletes are subject to numerous types of knee injuries, there has been much interest in the evaluation of players after anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) tears. ACL tears represent 2% of injuries in the NFL.
 
If you have a few minutes, Colin approved.

Study from 2013 to 2020


379 ACL tears were identified, including 256 (67.6%) during game play and 118 (31.1%) during practice.

In the National Football League (NFL), knee injuries have been shown to represent approximately 20% to 30% of all injuries, 6,20 and 24% of literature on orthopaedic injuries in NFL athletes focuses on the knee. 19 While NFL athletes are subject to numerous types of knee injuries, there has been much interest in the evaluation of players after anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) tears. ACL tears represent 2% of injuries in the NFL.
Interesting, thanks! Skimming through this, I just wish the study was from an earlier time frame.

This piece was fascinating:

"There was an increased proportion of in-season ACL tears in the 2020 NFL season relative to 2014 to 2019; this is attributable to a frameshift in the consistent trend of injuries in the 1st month to return of competitive play, with 2020 being in the regular season in September as opposed to the preseason in August."​
I wonder if the fact that these athletes don't get time off also plays into these injuries as well. Back in the day, players got in shape during training camp. Nowadays, they are expected to have a high level of fitness and conditioning all year long. I wonder if that has any effect on the body.
 
Interesting, thanks! Skimming through this, I just wish the study was from an earlier time frame.

This piece was fascinating:

"There was an increased proportion of in-season ACL tears in the 2020 NFL season relative to 2014 to 2019; this is attributable to a frameshift in the consistent trend of injuries in the 1st month to return of competitive play, with 2020 being in the regular season in September as opposed to the preseason in August."​
I wonder if the fact that these athletes don't get time off also plays into these injuries as well. Back in the day, players got in shape during training camp. Nowadays, they are expected to have a high level of fitness and conditioning all year long. I wonder if that has any effect on the body.
Plus now players don't attend voluntary camps and play in preseason games.
 
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