Republicans Enjoy Huge Lead Over Democrats in Midterms: Poll

[Soul On Ice]

i haven’t post in the Reparations thread cuz we ain’t getting no Reparations.

There is a better chance of a UFO landing on the White House lawn than getting Reparations.

Reparations is just a stupid talking point.

To see the democrats make Black people care about others needs such as faggotry, immigration, and abortion rights while outright shitting on what is the biggest Black issue in our community is nothing less than astonishing .

I'm lightweight impressed tbh

 

[Big Tex]

I have called for ADOS Black Americans to prioritize our political and economic needs and to support candidates and politicians who reciprocate that.



I don't know Lazarus from Adam from but he's said "how is that [voting Democratic w/o reciprocation] working? And please explain why black wealth hasn't increased in 70 years while everyone else has while using this same super intelligent strategy."

You're the one who doesn't want to answer his question!



What plan? I don't see any plan here that alludes or endorses what you're saying: https://www.bgol.us/forum/threads/a-blueprint-for-reparations.1098307/

How about you go there, review the information, and then ask questions about what you see, hear, or read? Why is that so difficult? The thread has been there 2 1/2 years!

Very first post in your thread.

US Conference of Mayors supports commission to study giving reparations to African-Americans
The call for reparations from some Democrats has intensified amid racial injustice protests across the country


The U.S. Conference of Mayors is expressing support for Democratic-proposed legislation introduced by Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas, and Sen. Cory Booker, D-N.J., to commission a study on reparations to African-Americans.

“We recognize and support your legislation as a concrete first step to guide the actions of both federal and local leaders who have promised to do better by our Black residents,” Greg Fischer, mayor of Louisville and president of the Conference of Mayors, wrote in a letter dated July 10. The conference represents more than 1,400 U.S. cities with populations of greater than 30,000.

The call for reparations to the nation’s 41 million Black Americans has renewed amid racial injustice protests across the country. Presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden has not fully committed reparations but has expressed support for a study on the matter.
Robert Johnson, the founder of Black Entertainment Television, recently told Fox News he supported the idea of paying $14 trillion in reparations to African-Americans.

"Nobody talks about cash, but Black people understand cash," Johnson told Fox News.

Under his proposal, an estimated 40 million African-Americans would get $350,000 in direct cash payments over 30 years (costing the average taxpayer roughly $2,900 a year, according to his office). The $350,000 would signify the wealth disparity between African-Americans and white Americans.

The idea is deeply controversial. Some Democratic lawmakers have warmed to the discussion, but often in the form of commissions and other partial measures. A Fox News poll last year found most Americans are opposed to cash reparations. And with the government already spending trillions on coronavirus relief and the national debt pushing past $26 trillion, concerns about the country's fiscal stability would pose an obvious hurdle.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., last year said of the idea: "I think we're always a work in progress in this country, but no one currently alive was responsible for that, and I don't think we should be trying to figure out how to compensate for it."
Another study from three college professors on the extreme end of estimates has put the price tag of adequate reparations at $6.2 quadrillion, a payment of $151 million to every Black American.

The study, "Wealth Implications of Slavery and Racial Discrimination for African American Descendants of the Enslaved,” determined the price tag essentially by calculating the unpaid hours that slaves worked and the cost of discrimination the descendants of slaves faced and adds interest.

When Booker announced his bill last year to study the possibility of reparations he said it was “a way of addressing head-on the persistence of racism, white supremacy, and implicit racial bias in our country. It will bring together the best minds to study the issue and propose solutions that will finally begin to right the economic scales of past harms and make sure we are a country where all dignity and humanity is affirmed.”
Jackson Lee introduced a companion bill in the House, which if passed into law would set up a commission to study the impact of slavery and continued discrimination against black Americans and make recommendations on reparation proposals for the descendants of slaves.

US Conference of Mayors supports commission to study giving reparations to African-Americans

The U.S. Conference of Mayors is expressing support for Democratic-proposed legislation introduced by Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas, and Sen. Cory Booker, D-N.J., to commission a study on reparations to African Americans.

www.foxnews.com

This is null and void after you give Republicans the power to outlaw reparations in the constitution.

There is not a need to read any further until you tell us how you would over come this after you give Republicans the power to outlaw it.

 

[godofwine]

Dems have passed legislation for GAYS only. So there's that

Right. They say they can't do anything to helpnBlack people only, but do shit to help Gays only, or Jews only.

Jews have received reparations from America, who wasn't even responsible for the Holocaust

 

[geechiedan]

Dems have passed legislation for GAYS only. So there's that

I never once claimed you were in the don't vote club.

I got smoke for Dems all the time. They are constantly fucking up. They're just the better option right now seeing the Republicans are the white nationalist party. What I'm not going to do is say electing Republicans are in our best interest.

aint no black or POC gays now??? and what rights to they have that you dont...

 

[geechiedan]

Very first post in your thread.



This is null and void after you give Republicans the power to outlaw reparations in the constitution.

There is not a need to read any further until you tell us how you would over come this after you give Republicans the power to outlaw it.

he cant answer that...

 

[Joe Money]

Very first post in your thread.

This is null and void after you give Republicans the power to outlaw reparations in the constitution.

There is not a need to read any further until you tell us how you would over come this after you give Republicans the power to outlaw it.

And where have I said that Republicans should be given the power to outlaw reparations in the Constitution? Where have I said that it would even be possible for Republicans to outlaw reparations in the Constitution?

You see, as I said, you create strawman arguments in your head, attribute them to ME, and then argue against them!

This is a sign of mental illness.

 

[Joe Money]

he cant answer that...

I just did.

 

[Joe Money]

To see the democrats make Black people care about others needs such as faggotry, immigration, and abortion rights while outright shitting on what is the biggest Black issue in our community is nothing less than astonishing .

I'm lightweight impressed tbh

He can't help it. Notice that he calls himself "black bull." We know that's interracial sex slang, and he's got a white wife, so he's already down deep in the Sunken Place!

I at least hope, for his sake, she's putting it down on him like this!

 

[Joe Money]

aint no black or POC gays now??? and what rights to they have that you dont...

You tell us. You're one of them.

 

[Big Tex]

And where have I said that Republicans should be given the power to outlaw reparations in the Constitution? Where have I said that it would even be possible for Republicans to outlaw reparations in the Constitution?

You see, as I said, you create strawman arguments in your head, attribute them to ME, and then argue against them!

This is a sign of mental illness.

You have advocated giving them the house and senate. And let's be real. You have constantly attacked people for voting Dem. You insult people for voting Dem. If it were not for us voting Dem, Republicans WOULD have the power to change the Constitution this very minute.

So you attack us, but without our votes, your plans would be null and void.

Yes we need to hold Dems accountable, but yes we need to vote Dem if ONLY to keep Republicans from embedding more discrimination against us into the law.

You also assume those of us that vote Dem are sheep and have no enlightenment and never consider that maybe we have a big picture view of stopping Republican aggression against our rights.

You don't seem very concerned about this ongoing threat.

 

[geechiedan]

You tell us. You're one of them.

nigga you wish STILL have no answer for Tex tho do you????

 

[geechiedan]

You have advocated giving them the house and senate. And let's be real. You have constantly attacked people for voting Dem. You insult people for voting Dem. If it were not for us voting Dem, Republicans WOULD have the power to change the Constitution this very minute.

So you attack us, but without our votes, your plans would be null and void.

Yes we need to hold Dems accountable, but yes we need to vote Dem if ONLY to keep Republicans from embedding more discrimination against us into the law.

You also assume those of us that vote Dem are sheep and have no enlightenment and never consider that maybe we have a big picture view of stopping Republican aggression against our rights.

You don't seem very concerned about this ongoing threat.

I predict he'll say "where have I said blah blah blah" then go in circles but NEVER actually answer the questions....





lets watch the show!

 

[Joe Money]

You have advocated giving them the house and senate. And let's be real. You have constantly attacked people for voting Dem. You insult people for voting Dem.

I think if you were to fairly review this board over the years, you'd see that this is vice versa...........those of us who question blindly voting for the Democratic Party over the years with NOTHING to show for it get disparaged as "coons" and "bots" and "Russian agents" and everything else. Me, Soul On Ice, Supersav, KingTaharqa, xfactor, lazarus and others actually have different ideologies but we all agree that voting Dem with nothing to show for it over and over again does NOTHING for us and we all get attacked for saying that.

All we've simply said, time and time again, is GET SOMETHING for your vote!! Everyone else understands and agitates for this (just ask your gay and tranny and feminist buddies).

If ir were not for us voting Dem, Republicans WOULD have the power to change the Constitution this very minute.

No they wouldn't. Changing the Constitution isn't that quick and easy......by design.

While I do agree that we are fucked either way by the Democrats or the republicans, we're just fucked more by the Republicans. The Democrats will help trans people before they help us because trans people include white people. They will never solely do anything to help our group as black people as they should and could, even with a Dem Senate or even a Dem House

So you attack us, but without our votes, your plans would be null and void.

Yes we need to hold Dems accountable, but yes we need to vote Dem if ONLY to keep Republicans from embedding more discrimination against us into the law.

You don't believe in holding Democrats accountable. That itself is the problem. Lazarus asked you directly "how is that [voting Democratic w/o reciprocation] working? And please explain why black wealth hasn't increased in 70 years while everyone else has while using this same super intelligent strategy?"

You refuse to answer it.

You also assume those of us that vote Dem are sheep and have no enlightenment and never consider that maybe we have a big picture view of stopping Republican aggression against our rights.

Some are sheep, some are programmed robots, some identify more with their sexuality or gender identity than being Black, some are not Black at all, some are Black but of immigrant backgrounds, some are personally or professionally tied to the Democratic Party, some don't care............I think there is a wide variety of those in your camp.

You don't seem very concerned about this ongoing threat.

I regard the Dem assault on our people via immigration and feminist and LGBTQ and intersectionality and BIPOC and whatever else to be just as much of a thread as anything the GOP can bring. In some ways moreso, since it is far more subversive. Better the enemy I know.

 

[gutsdabeast]

@VAiz4hustlaz & @Soul On Ice will never answer your question about how you get from withholding your votes until a Black only agenda candidate comes forward because that's not their real agenda here. How easy would it be to just spell out what that plan looks like. Their agenda is to pretend that republicans in office do not negatively impact real Black americans in this country.

Racist republican judges harm the Black community disproportionately. The fact that republicans continuously gerrymander in districts to dull our votes. Because we vote for the party that's not openly racist. They pretend we don't see that Democrats have flaws & need to put forward more agenda that target the Black community. But the lesser of 2 evils is the solution until a viable 3rd option presents itself.

This thread has kinda gotten out of hand. Neither of these 2 clowns have posted in the verification thread. Yet they pretend they are all about Black americans. Attempting to get you to either vote against our best interest or not voting at all. I'll no longer be responding to either of you until you either verify you actually Black or post an outline how withholding votes produces a reparations package that's not immediately killed by republicans holding all 3 branches of the government.

 

[Joe Money]

nigga you wish STILL have no answer for Tex tho do you????

What's the question?

I predict he'll say "where have I said blah blah blah" then go in circles but NEVER actually answer the questions....

lets watch the show!

I have to ask that, since I'm constantly being accused of things with no attribution.

Now, I can certainly show where you said you "don't care to look at numbers", and, as a consequence, have no way of actually measuring the efficacy of anything. So any talk about Black wealth goes right over your head.

Perhaps you can answer Lazarus' question since Lil Tex won't: how is that [voting Democratic w/o reciprocation] working? And please explain why black wealth hasn't increased in 70 years while everyone else has while using this same super intelligent strategy?

 

[Joe Money]

@VAiz4hustlaz & @Soul On Ice will never answer your question about how you get from withholding your votes until a Black only agenda candidate comes forward because that's not their real agenda here.

We've never said that was our agenda. In fact, the candidates you speak of already exist.

How easy would it be to just spell out what that plan looks like.

Because it's already been spelled out and there's a whole thread on it. I've never seen you in it. I can't make you read it!

Their agenda is to pretend that republicans in office do not negatively impact real Black americans in this country.

Both Dems and GOP negatively impact us when we don't prioritize ourselves politically. Now, you could easily refute what I'm saying by listing all of the measurable positives that have come from voting Democratic for us. I'll wait.......................

Racist republican judges harm the Black community disproportionately. The fact that republicans continuously gerrymander in districts to dull our votes. Because we vote for the party that's not openly racist.

So you vote for the one that is closetly racist instead?

They pretend we don't see that Democrats have flaws & need to put forward more agenda that target the Black community.

You don't. And you attack anyone who suggests that of the Democrats.

But the lesser of 2 evils is the solution until a viable 3rd option presents itself.

This thread has kinda gotten out of hand.

Who's fault is that? Who resurrected it to gloat about "what happened to dat red wave" and started tagging people? Go talk to him/her/they/it.

Neither of these 2 clowns have posted in the verification thread. Yet they pretend they are all about Black. Attempting to get u to either vote against our best interest or not voting at all. I'll no longer be responding to either of you until you either verify you actually Black or post an outline how withholding votes produces a reparations package that's not immediately killed by republicans holding all 3 branches of the government.

Nigga............

 

[An RnB Thug]

This thread aged well.....

 

[Soul On Ice]

@VAiz4hustlaz & @Soul On Ice will never answer your question about how you get from withholding your votes until a Black only agenda candidate comes forward because that's not their real agenda here. How easy would it be to just spell out what that plan looks like. Their agenda is to pretend that republicans in office do not negatively impact real Black americans in this country.

If you can't understand the literal first thing about voting me explaining how voting works will completely go over your head.

Racist republican judges harm the Black community disproportionately. The fact that republicans continuously gerrymander in districts to dull our votes. Because we vote for the party that's not openly racist. They pretend we don't see that Democrats have flaws & need to put forward more agenda that target the Black community. But the lesser of 2 evils is the solution until a viable 3rd option presents itself.

Lesser of two evils...

This thread has kinda gotten out of hand. Neither of these 2 clowns have posted in the verification thread. Yet they pretend they are all about Black americans. Attempting to get you to either vote against our best interest or not voting at all. I'll no longer be responding to either of you until you either verify you actually Black or post an outline how withholding votes produces a reparations package that's not immediately killed by republicans holding all 3 branches of the government.

If you think we who put Black people and issues before politicians are somehow not Black, you're as dumb as I think you are. Please do put me on ignore and rid me of your stupidity you ignoramus buffoon.

 

[gutsdabeast]

Inspired By Steelwell Identity Post | BGOL Community

XCactor. If you post your hand today MODS can ban me for life | BGOL Community

 

[RUDY RAYYY MO]

Why you post this?

 

[RUDY RAYYY MO]

Where's the lie? I said three things.......

1. McConnell is a Republican.
2. No one is encouraging Black people to vote for him or any other Republican.
3. 90% of Black voters vote Democratic.

Identify the lie please.

You do Tariq. You spam the board with anti Dem...pro Repub shit daily.

 

[geechiedan]

Why you post this?

I figured it would be the kind of thing vaiz4hustlaz soul on ice and xfactor would appreciate since its rightwing theories as to why people vote the way they do.. you know leftwing conspiracies to keep single women down thats the ONLY reason they didn't get their red wave....

 

[Joe Money]

Why you post this?

He doesn’t know. The nigga is old and senile and posting irrelevant shit.

 

[Joe Money]

You do Tariq. You spam the board with anti Dem...pro Repub shit daily.

Tariq? Huh? And you still haven’t identified the “lie” you claimed I posted.

 

[veritech]

exposed......

 

[sharkbait28]

Man, I find almost nothing more boring than arguing politics with y’all niggas these days but here’s a reality to contend with: The only meaningful progress in this country has ever had has come from the left. Full stop. So this notion of petitioning Conservatives for progress is ahistorical and completely retarded.

As much as I hate corporate Dems and for all the inumerable faults I could (correctly) ascribe to them the reality remains that any further meaningful progress in this sick country will emerge from negotiating to their left. It’s absolutely insane and delusional to pretend that there’s some mythical/reasonable Republican Party waiting eagerly to enact a meaningfully progressive black agenda with only the promise of a voting block (who they literally hate and work to disenfranchise daily… and successfully). This runs afoul of historicity and common sense to the point of absurdity and I absolutely fucking hate how retarded this argument is

 

[Joe Money]

Man, I find almost nothing more boring than arguing politics with y’all niggas these days but here’s a reality to contend with: The only meaningful progress in this country has ever had has come from the left. Full stop. So this notion of petitioning Conservatives for progress is ahistorical and completely retarded.

As much as I hate corporate Dems and for all the inumerable faults I could (correctly) ascribe to them the reality remains that any further meaningful progress in this sick country will emerge from negotiating to their left. It’s absolutely insane and delusional to pretend that there’s some mythical/reasonable Republican Party waiting eagerly to enact a meaningfully progressive black agenda with only the promise of a voting block (who they literally hate and work to disenfranchise daily… and successfully). This runs afoul of historicity and common sense to the point of absurdity and I absolutely fucking hate how retarded this argument is

Tell this to the “vote Dem regardless” crew. You’ve never heard me nor Soul make this argument.

 

[geechiedan]

Tell this to the “vote Dem regardless” crew. You’ve never heard me nor Soul make this argument.

negro did you actually READ what he wrote???

 

[Joe Money]

negro did you actually READ what he wrote???

Yes nigga, I did. Did you?!? If not, let's go over what sharkbait said together, shall we?

• "So this notion of petitioning Conservatives for progress is ahistorical and completely retarded."

- I (nor to my knowledge Soul or Lazarus or Supersav) has argued for petitioning Conservatives or the Republican Party. If I have, please quote the post!! It is YOU and YOUR BUTT BUDDIES who always say "are you asking your master Trump for reparations" or "take that to your Republicans" and other dumb shit. I'll post receipts if you need them. They're all over the board.

• "As much as I hate corporate Dems and for all the inumerable faults I could (correctly) ascribe to them the reality remains that any further meaningful progress in this sick country will emerge from negotiating to their left."

- ADOS has made this point from DAY ONE!! Reparations advocates have pointed this out! Political scientists have written about Black American voters being a "captured electorate" and how abstention (which Lazarus talked about and y'all effectively ignored) can be effectively used as a political strategy.

I know you won't look at or read any of this shit but someone might so I'm posting it below.





An argument for voting abstention

• It’s absolutely insane and delusional to pretend that there’s some mythical/reasonable Republican Party waiting eagerly to enact a meaningfully progressive black agenda with only the promise of a voting block (who they literally hate and work to disenfranchise daily… and successfully). This runs afoul of historicity and common sense to the point of absurdity and I absolutely fucking hate how retarded this argument is

- See the answer to the first bullet point. I don't know who sharkbait was directing this to but this argument isn't coming from us.

 

[geechiedan]

Yes nigga, I did. Did you?!? If not, let's go over what sharkbait said together, shall we?

• "So this notion of petitioning Conservatives for progress is ahistorical and completely retarded."

- I (nor to my knowledge Soul or Lazarus or Supersav) has argued for petitioning Conservatives or the Republican Party. If I have, please quote the post!! It is YOU and YOUR BUTT BUDDIES who always say "are you asking your master Trump for reparations" or "take that to your Republicans" and other dumb shit. I'll post receipts if you need them. They're all over the board.

• "As much as I hate corporate Dems and for all the inumerable faults I could (correctly) ascribe to them the reality remains that any further meaningful progress in this sick country will emerge from negotiating to their left."

- ADOS has made this point from DAY ONE!! Reparations advocates have pointed this out! Political scientists have written about Black American voters being a "captured electorate" and how abstention (which Lazarus talked about and y'all effectively ignored) can be effectively used as a political strategy.

I know you won't look at or read any of this shit but someone might so I'm posting it below.





An argument for voting abstention

• It’s absolutely insane and delusional to pretend that there’s some mythical/reasonable Republican Party waiting eagerly to enact a meaningfully progressive black agenda with only the promise of a voting block (who they literally hate and work to disenfranchise daily… and successfully). This runs afoul of historicity and common sense to the point of absurdity and I absolutely fucking hate how retarded this argument is

- See the answer to the first bullet point. I don't know who sharkbait was directing this to but this argument isn't coming from us.

and we're back to your boy eddie glaude again..... here's what he thought of abstention after proposing it

 

[Joe Money]

and we're back to your boy eddie glaude again..... here's what he thought of abstention after proposing it

No, you asked if I actually read what sharkbait wrote. I did. And I wrote a brief analysis. Now perhaps YOU should reply to sharkbait with your analysis as well (if you actually read it), rather than rehash a conversation we've had in prior threads (which is your usual m.o.).

• Show and tell sharkbait where I have argued for "petitioning conservatives for progress".
  
  
• And reply to Lazarus' question: "how is that [voting Democratic w/o reciprocation] working? And please explain why black wealth hasn't increased in 70 years while everyone else has while using this same super intelligent strategy."

 

[darth frosty]

 

[geechiedan]

No, you asked if I actually read what sharkbait wrote. I did. And I wrote a brief analysis. Now perhaps YOU should reply to sharkbait with your analysis as well (if you actually read it), rather than rehash a conversation we've had in prior threads (which is your usual m.o.).

• Show and tell sharkbait where I have argued for "petitioning conservatives for progress".
  
  
• And reply to Lazarus' question: "how is that [voting Democratic w/o reciprocation] working? And please explain why black wealth hasn't increased in 70 years while everyone else has while using this same super intelligent strategy."

ceding power and leverage to conservatives may as well be petitioning them for progress... theyre going to assume being given the keys of power and leverage as a mandate to do what they want and a vote of confidence from the people. Which means installing more conservative judges and rolling back any and all gains seen in the last 50 years roeVwade is just an example of the shit theyre more than willing to pull.

much of the studies on black wealth is always in comparison to whites and others not black wealth in the 40s in and of itself compared to black wealth in 2022. But I'm willing to bet that black wealth in and of itself has increased from then to now tho.

 

[Joe Money]

ceding power and leverage to conservatives may as well be petitioning them for progress... theyre going to assume being given the keys of power and leverage as a mandate to do what they want and a vote of confidence from the people. Which means installing more conservative judges and rolling back any and all gains seen in the last 50 years roeVwade is just an example of the shit theyre more than willing to pull.

The fuck are you talking about? Conservatives do this WITHOUT controlling the government, usually with the assistance of "conservative" and "moderate" Democrats!!

much of the studies on black wealth is always in comparison to whites and others not black wealth in the 40s in and of itself compared to black wealth in 2022. But I'm willing to bet that black wealth in and of itself has increased from then to now tho.

Why wouldn't we compare Black wealth to White wealth? And you're "willing to bet." No stats or anything, huh? Nothing to say about how it's projected to be zero by 2053, either?

• The median black household holds just ten percent of the wealth of median white household, and while blacks constitute thirteen percent of America’s population, they hold less than three percent of its wealth.

Why are you even in this conversation????

 

[geechiedan]

The fuck are you talking about? Conservatives do this WITHOUT controlling the government, usually with the assistance of "conservative" and "moderate" Democrats!!

and yet YOUR BOY glaude still voted democrat he didn't come up with some alternative party... make it make sense..

Why wouldn't we compare Black wealth to White wealth? And you're "willing to bet." No stats or anything, huh? Nothing to say about how it's projected to be zero by 2053, either?

• The median black household holds just ten percent of the wealth of median white household, and while blacks constitute thirteen percent of America’s population, they hold less than three percent of its wealth.

Why are you even in this conversation????

because the question was why black wealth hasn't increased in 70 years

and your graph shows from 1960 to 2020 it has.... if you want to compare it to white growth OF COURSE it shows a disparity WELCOME TO AMERICA numbnuts.