Some believed it was a work and some didn't. I don't know where you're getting this ALL from.
THE WRESTLING THREAD: HHH KEEPS DOING HHH THINGS.....
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Some believed it was a work and some didn't. I don't know where you're getting this ALL from.
This answers the question on why he's not wrestling often...
Wrestlers are just as bad as the fans. Everyone thinks they are the man and should get endless pushes and cry when they don't. Both of those dudes did that in WWE and were let go. Now they're doing it in AEW. I predict they'll eventually make their way back to WWE and do it all over again. There's just too much talent out there today to feature everyone all the time.
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It's always WWE's fault when somebody doesn't get pushed. Miro and Andrade were in AEW way before Claudio but he got a championship match & belt in the first month he was there. Maybe Tony sees the same thing but of course he can do no wrong.
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AEW's roster is bloated right now, and you're right, Tony treats new hires the same way kids treat new toys.
Excitement at first, but eventually the excitement wears off and the kid/TK wants another toy.
ROH doesn't have a TV deal and there's no guarantee they'll get one on a major platform, so you can't just offload half the roster there.
I predict a good number of guys going back to WWE once their AEW deal is up or even negotiating an early exit.
Yeah AEW needs to trim down some IMO. Vince was accused of the same thing too when they went on their talent hoarding phase. You can't have everyone in your promotion. Imagine if the NBA or NFL didn't have roster caps? Just dozens of dudes on the sidelines collecting checks doing nothing.
But this is what I don't get from these companies. Chris Jericho doesn't have to be at every show! Every other week you have one set of wrestlers and your champions and the wrestlers they're feuding with. The weeks in between you have another set and those same champions and the wrestlers they're feuding with.
If the whole current trend continues, and with Discovery/Warner Bros making it difficult for AEW to have a home (per rumors), I really see AEW struggling to find a place in wrestling by their sixth year mark.
The changes WWE recently made will put them in a better position for talent and to make more money and be more attractive to the networks and open for all wrestling fans.
AEW is already stale and only truly positioned themselves to be geared towards their (smart) fans and that will bite them.
They haven't grown their base and WWE is about to be that sleeping giant that just woke up.
The changes WWE recently made will put them in a better position for talent and to make more money and be more attractive to the networks and open for all wrestling fans.
AEW is already stale and only truly positioned themselves to be geared towards their (smart) fans and that will bite them.
They haven't grown their base and WWE is about to be that sleeping giant that just woke up.
All excellent matches. Ospreay is on another level right now.
They won't get to WWE level by catering to only the die-hards. But I don't see them going anywhere, unless Tony Kahn gets bored and decides to move on. If Impact and the NWA can survive this long, AEW/ROH can too. I know he's a die-hard fan and this is his dream, but I'm not sure if he's dedicated to running an indie promotion without some type of television deal attached.
Black and Gold NXT was great at balancing and rotating their roster. The only time I think they strated messing that up was when they kept Shayna as women's champ for far too long.
Tell that to TK and the guy who's always in his ear (Chris Jericho) and gets to TK to listen to all his stupid ideas. LOL
This is why I don't see them lasting. The size of their roster and overhead plus no real TV deal will be their undoing if/when Warner Discovery pulls the plug....
I would bet money that the network has slight input with who's on t.v.. Jericho is one of AEW biggest names. When AEW was in Milwaukee last year and Giannis Antetokounmpo went to the show and who do you think he was most excited to see? If Jericho segments give good ratings then they kinda have to continue doing what works.
Even if they pull the plug most networks would love to grab a property like AEW and their reliable ratings. Some major sports aren't pulling in any better ratings. AEW roster won't be what it is 3 or 4 years for now. Talent will come and go. 2 years for now Triple H & TK may be working on a joint PPV.
Some major sports don't bring in the stigma that wrestling brings in.....
BTW, which networks? It won't be any tied to NBC/Universal. And if Warner/Discovery pulls the plug, who's left? Paramount? AEW isn't going on to be picked up by CBS. MTV, CMT, BET, Comedy Central? I just don't see it. AEW might end up on Pluto TV....
There aren't too many networks that 1) have done prime time wrestling and 2) would jump into prime time wrestling with a second rate promotion that (could be) struggling to stay on television.
If it ain't WWE, not too many networks outside of TNT/TBS will touch wrestling.
And I don't see Triple H doing a cross promotion show with them, I mean why would he/WWE do it? What's in it for WWE?
If you provide wrestlers with compeling stories for everyone you won't have that problem. Sure everyone has a favorite I get that, but seeing that same person eat up almost 30min with promos and wrestling every week makes them stale and doesn't give time to "lesser" talent.
Other than mark fantasy booking, what incentive would WWE and Triple H have to work with AEW and do a joint PPV?
I know Triple H in the past has said that "WWE is open to do business", but I take that to mean doing business with much smaller promotions that don't pose any kind of real threat.
Smaller promotions they can poach talent from. Smaller promotions that don't have the money to sign away WWE talent.
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The old regime is gone! That thinking of "threats" shouldn't be a thing now. HHH has friends working all over the world in other promotions, if WWE is willing to take a check from the Saudi's who're an ACTUAL threat! Why not work with a company that is a fan of wrestling like he is and making money.
i dont think that makes business sense
its still a business and it doesnt make sense to work with your biggest domestic competitor
the Saudis are threat to American Values but a win for the WWE bottom line
its the same reason the PGA tour is banning golfers who join the LIV tour
its the same reason UFC & Bellator dont do superfights
the WWE & AEW are fighting over the same fans, their wrestling related dollars and advertising
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AEW's roster IMO needs to be less than 50 people total. It's like almost 150 now. TK is getting like Vince, in he's hoarding talent, afraid he's going to miss out on the next big thing.
If the Saudis ran their own wrestling promotion that took away viewers and talent from WWE, trust me, WWE would not work with them anymore.
WWE doesn't care about the political stuff with Saudi Arabia, they just see $$$.
Working with AEW just doesn't make any business sense.
Remember, Triple H is the one that called AEW a "piss ant company" a couple of years ago. I don't see him changing his stance all of a sudden.
Things in WWE are changing, but not dramatically.
Saudi not a threat??? Let one of the women WEAR something that is haram or have an opinion that goes against the government. Keep in mind this is the same country that killed a journalist for the Washington Post. So let's not act like they only fcuk politically with America.
I look at these promotions like Microsoft and Apple. Microsoft can make more money by forcing people to only buy Windows compatible PC's/VM's. Instead they say keep your MAC here's Office! That is money that could have been used to buy a Windows license. WWE and AEW aren't in competition with each other. Outside of Fridays they don't even air the same night or conflict with each other on PPV's. This is like people that keep Pistons and Bulls rivalries going (yes I still keep that shyt going BAD BOYS FOR LIFE!!!!) The NBA isn't set up that way anymore Lakers fans don't care about the Celtics and vice versa. The players openly hang out with each other when they play each other. Nobody is shocked when Brock and Roman hang out together.
Making money? What kind of rating draw do you think you could get if WWE/AEW/NJPW/etc... does another invasion angle leading up to a Forbidden Door or a Survivor Series PPV? Yes it's been done before with ECW, then with WCW and then twice with the NWO. But you ALWAYS watch!
PGA is banning their golfers cause they don't want that press associated with Saudi Arabia. ALSO they don't want them getting poached from PGA due to the amount of money that LIV is willing to pay. Nobody left WWE for a lesser promotion saying: "MAN!!! I am so glad I left WWE!! I get paid SO much more money now!!!"
Now the reason UFC doesn't do superfights with Bellator is due to them protecting the UFC brand if Amosov KO's Usman (not gonna happen) what does that do to the UFC brand and your champions? Then you factor in the pay scale would be impossible as Bellator fighters are paid differently (more) than UFC fighters. Plus logistically that would seem to be a nightmare trying to make that PPV happen.
