Shit you got to be just as careful when you're inside the United States if you're black.
Free BG (Brittney Griner) this is ridiculous now
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He's trying to rebuild the black voter base. BG is trending and a hot topic among black folk and athletes.Biden looks weak on this one. Going forward, Russia will continue to detain US cities, knowing the US will deal. Bad move on his part - he's not thinking long-term.
U.S. offers Russia a deal for the release of Brittney Griner
WNBA star and two-time Olympic gold medalist Brittney Griner is escorted to a courtroom for a hearing, in Khimki just outside Moscow, on Wednesday.
WASHINGTON — The U.S. has offered a deal to Russia aimed at bringing home WNBA star Brittney Griner and another jailed American, Paul Whelan, Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Wednesday. In a sharp reversal of previous policy, Blinken also said he expects to speak with his Kremlin counterpart for the first time since before Russia invaded Ukraine.
The statement marked the first time the U.S. government has publicly revealed any concrete action it has taken to secure the release of Griner, who was arrested on drug-related charges at a Moscow airport in February and testified Wednesday at her trial.
Blinken did not offer details on the proposed deal, which was offered weeks ago, and it is unclear if it will be enough for Russia to release the Americans. But the public acknowledgment of the offer at a time when the U.S. has otherwise shunned Russia, reflects the mounting pressure on the administration over Griner and Whelan and its determination to get them home.
Blinken said Washington would like a response from Moscow. Russia has for years expressed interest in the release of Viktor Bout, a Russian arms dealer once labeled the "Merchant of Death," who was sentenced to 25 years in prison in 2012 on charges that he schemed to illegally sell millions of dollars in weapons.
Blinken said he had requested a call with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov. U.S. officials said the the desire for an answer on the prisoner offer was the primary, but not only, reason that the U.S. on Wednesday requested the call with Lavrov.
Should the call take place, it would be the first conversation that Blinken and Lavrov have held since Feb. 15, about a week before Russia invaded Ukraine. Blinken said he would also be speaking to Lavrov about the importance of Russia complying with a UN-brokered deal to free multiple tons of Ukrainian grain from storage and warning him about the dangers of possible Russian attempts to annex portions of eastern and southern Ukraine.
Whelan, a corporate security executive from Michigan, was sentenced in 2020 to 16 years in prison on espionage charges. He and his family have vigorously asserted his innocence. The U.S. government has denounced the charges as false. He and his family have vigorously asserted his innocence. The U.S. government has denounced the charges as false.
Griner, in Russian custody for the last five months, acknowledged in court this month that she had vape cartridges containing cannabis oil in her luggage when she arrived in Moscow in February but contends she had no criminal intent and packed the cartridges inadvertently.
At her trial Wednesday, Griner said she did not know how the cannabis oil ended up in her bag but explained she had a doctor's recommendation for it and had packed in haste. She said she was pulled aside at the airport after inspectors found the cartridges, but that a language interpreter translated only a fraction of what was said during her questioning and that officials instructed her to sign documents without providing an explanation.
Griner faces up to 10 years in prison if convicted of transporting drugs.
The U.S. government has long resisted prisoner swaps out of concern that it could encourage additional hostage-taking and promote false equivalency between a wrongfully detained American and a foreign national regarded as justly convicted. But an earlier deal in April, in which Marine veteran Trevor Reed was traded for jailed Russian pilot, Konstantin Yaroshenko, appeared to open the door to similar resolutions in the future and the Biden administration has been hounded with political pressure to bring home Griner and other Americans designated as unjustly detained.
There was no indication that Blinken and Lavrov had communicated to secure Reed's release. Their last publicly recognized contact was Feb. 22, when Blinken wrote to Lavrov to cancel a meeting they had planned as a last-ditch effort to avert the Russian invasion, saying Moscow had shown no interest in serious diplomacy on the matter. The State Department said later that Russia's diplomacy was "Kabuki Theater" — all show and no substance.
The two last met in person in Geneva in January to discuss what was then Russia's massive military build-up along Ukraine's border and Russian demands for NATO to reduce its presence in eastern Europe and permanently deny Ukraine membership. The U.S. rejected the Russian demands.
Blinken and Lavrov avoided each other earlier this month at the next time they were in the same place at the same time: at a meeting of foreign ministers from the Group of 20 nations in Bali, Indonesia.
The two men will next be in the same city at the same time next week in Phnom Penh, Cambodia, where they will both be attending the Association of Southeast Asian Nations Regional Forum. It was not immediately clear if the phone call ahead of that meeting, set for Aug. 4-5, would presage an in-person discussion.
U.S. offers Russia a deal for releasing Brittney Griner : NPR
WNBA star and two-time Olympic gold medalist Brittney Griner is escorted to a courtroom for a hearing, in Khimki just outside Moscow, on Wednesday.
WASHINGTON — The U.S. has offered a deal to Russia aimed at bringing home WNBA star Brittney Griner and another jailed American, Paul Whelan, Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Wednesday. In a sharp reversal of previous policy, Blinken also said he expects to speak with his Kremlin counterpart for the first time since before Russia invaded Ukraine.
The statement marked the first time the U.S. government has publicly revealed any concrete action it has taken to secure the release of Griner, who was arrested on drug-related charges at a Moscow airport in February and testified Wednesday at her trial.
Blinken did not offer details on the proposed deal, which was offered weeks ago, and it is unclear if it will be enough for Russia to release the Americans. But the public acknowledgment of the offer at a time when the U.S. has otherwise shunned Russia, reflects the mounting pressure on the administration over Griner and Whelan and its determination to get them home.
Blinken said Washington would like a response from Moscow. Russia has for years expressed interest in the release of Viktor Bout, a Russian arms dealer once labeled the "Merchant of Death," who was sentenced to 25 years in prison in 2012 on charges that he schemed to illegally sell millions of dollars in weapons.
Blinken said he had requested a call with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov. U.S. officials said the the desire for an answer on the prisoner offer was the primary, but not only, reason that the U.S. on Wednesday requested the call with Lavrov.
Should the call take place, it would be the first conversation that Blinken and Lavrov have held since Feb. 15, about a week before Russia invaded Ukraine. Blinken said he would also be speaking to Lavrov about the importance of Russia complying with a UN-brokered deal to free multiple tons of Ukrainian grain from storage and warning him about the dangers of possible Russian attempts to annex portions of eastern and southern Ukraine.
Whelan, a corporate security executive from Michigan, was sentenced in 2020 to 16 years in prison on espionage charges. He and his family have vigorously asserted his innocence. The U.S. government has denounced the charges as false. He and his family have vigorously asserted his innocence. The U.S. government has denounced the charges as false.
Griner, in Russian custody for the last five months, acknowledged in court this month that she had vape cartridges containing cannabis oil in her luggage when she arrived in Moscow in February but contends she had no criminal intent and packed the cartridges inadvertently.
At her trial Wednesday, Griner said she did not know how the cannabis oil ended up in her bag but explained she had a doctor's recommendation for it and had packed in haste. She said she was pulled aside at the airport after inspectors found the cartridges, but that a language interpreter translated only a fraction of what was said during her questioning and that officials instructed her to sign documents without providing an explanation.
Griner faces up to 10 years in prison if convicted of transporting drugs.
The U.S. government has long resisted prisoner swaps out of concern that it could encourage additional hostage-taking and promote false equivalency between a wrongfully detained American and a foreign national regarded as justly convicted. But an earlier deal in April, in which Marine veteran Trevor Reed was traded for jailed Russian pilot, Konstantin Yaroshenko, appeared to open the door to similar resolutions in the future and the Biden administration has been hounded with political pressure to bring home Griner and other Americans designated as unjustly detained.
There was no indication that Blinken and Lavrov had communicated to secure Reed's release. Their last publicly recognized contact was Feb. 22, when Blinken wrote to Lavrov to cancel a meeting they had planned as a last-ditch effort to avert the Russian invasion, saying Moscow had shown no interest in serious diplomacy on the matter. The State Department said later that Russia's diplomacy was "Kabuki Theater" — all show and no substance.
The two last met in person in Geneva in January to discuss what was then Russia's massive military build-up along Ukraine's border and Russian demands for NATO to reduce its presence in eastern Europe and permanently deny Ukraine membership. The U.S. rejected the Russian demands.
Blinken and Lavrov avoided each other earlier this month at the next time they were in the same place at the same time: at a meeting of foreign ministers from the Group of 20 nations in Bali, Indonesia.
The two men will next be in the same city at the same time next week in Phnom Penh, Cambodia, where they will both be attending the Association of Southeast Asian Nations Regional Forum. It was not immediately clear if the phone call ahead of that meeting, set for Aug. 4-5, would presage an in-person discussion.
U.S. offers Russia a deal for releasing Brittney Griner : NPR
Drugs are a scourge in the black community, her nonchalant attitude towards recreational use is promoting more serious drugs to the youth. just think how many teenagers or young adults she has influenced at parties recreational using these drugs in front of them. Imagine Michael Jordan being a drug user that openly used it during parties.
Instead of getting millions of kids to buy sneakers, he is getting them to buy drugs. Just imagine the problems he could have created if he was that careless and not being a role model. Now she is forcing the hand of the president to release a arms dealer that may go back to smuggling weapons causing chaos in Africa
It is also a failure of the government to assist these athletes that have become targets for foreign intelligence services that have been known to use bio weapons to influence trade policy in their favor. I remarked how suspicious Magic Johnson getting HIV promoting a shoe product that was domestically produced. The conflict with Russia and the EU boils down to trade and is not about protecting classified information, they need to get into the commercial space and start helping out.
I have been detained in the United States for over a decade, I know what she is going to face the time goes by pretty quickly.
Instead of getting millions of kids to buy sneakers, he is getting them to buy drugs. Just imagine the problems he could have created if he was that careless and not being a role model. Now she is forcing the hand of the president to release a arms dealer that may go back to smuggling weapons causing chaos in Africa
It is also a failure of the government to assist these athletes that have become targets for foreign intelligence services that have been known to use bio weapons to influence trade policy in their favor. I remarked how suspicious Magic Johnson getting HIV promoting a shoe product that was domestically produced. The conflict with Russia and the EU boils down to trade and is not about protecting classified information, they need to get into the commercial space and start helping out.
I have been detained in the United States for over a decade, I know what she is going to face the time goes by pretty quickly.
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LolI'd rather have Biden canceled student loans
The United States does not negotiate with Terrorists
Obama would never
Obama would never
To be honest, we shouldn't negotiate. This eill set a horrible precedent. She should do her time and the US should monitor and keep tabs on her to make sure she stays alive and healthy.
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I didn’t say all that
US creates terrorists and then says "I will not negotiate with you."
Us created Russia?
US creates terrorists, where did I say Russia?
The thread is about Russia
i Was calling Russia terrorists
u said US creates terrorists
price of tea in China is ?
You forgot what you said, you said....
and I said that the US creates terrorists
So the point is that US is not on some higher plane where they can't be considered a terrorist nation, the US does
similar tactics that Russia does. That's my point!
Obama disagrees with you.
What you said earlier was misguided and short-sighted. One has to look at the context of how the United States moves in the world.
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You saying Obama made terrorists?
Man, where's your problem? Go back and read what I said: I said that you are misguided and short-sighted, look at how the US moves in the world. & the way the US Government moves, it's designed to create terrorism around the world.
And Obama was the leader for 8 years straight
I’m using what u said big dawg
Obama lead the US
It sounds like you have an agenda, the United States have had 46 US Presidents and you only focus one, that's interesting. I'm peepin' your game.
The biggest mistake everyone running their pieholes with the "Free Britney" uproar.... all they did was add value to her
CNN Exclusive: Russian officials requested adding convicted murderer to Griner/Whelan prisoner swap
(CNN)Russian government officials requested that a former colonel from the country's domestic spy agency who was convicted of murder in Germany last year be included in the US' proposed swap of a notorious arms dealer Viktor Bout for Brittney Griner and Paul Whelan, multiple sources familiar with the discussions told CNN.
The Russians communicated the request to the US earlier this month through an informal backchannel used by the spy agency, known as the FSB, that they wanted Vadim Krasikov released, the sources said. Krasikov was convicted in December of murdering a former Chechen fighter, Zelimkhan "Tornike" Khangoshvili, in Berlin's Kleiner Tiergarten in 2019 and sentenced to life in prison.
The request was seen as problematic for several reasons, the sources told CNN, among them that Krasikov remains in German custody. As such, and because the request was not communicated formally but rather through the FSB backchannel, the US government did not view it as a legitimate counter to the US' offer which was first revealed by CNN on Wednesday.
But underscoring how determined the Biden administration has been to get Griner and Whelan back to the US, US officials did make quiet inquiries to the Germans about whether they might be willing to include Krasikov in the trade, a senior German government source told CNN. A US official characterized the outreach as a status check on Krasikov.
CNN Exclusive: Russian officials requested adding convicted murderer to Griner/Whelan prisoner swap - CNNPolitics
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CNN Exclusive: Russian officials requested adding convicted murderer to Griner/Whelan prisoner swap
(CNN)Russian government officials requested that a former colonel from the country's domestic spy agency who was convicted of murder in Germany last year be included in the US' proposed swap of a notorious arms dealer Viktor Bout for Brittney Griner and Paul Whelan, multiple sources familiar with the discussions told CNN.
The Russians communicated the request to the US earlier this month through an informal backchannel used by the spy agency, known as the FSB, that they wanted Vadim Krasikov released, the sources said. Krasikov was convicted in December of murdering a former Chechen fighter, Zelimkhan "Tornike" Khangoshvili, in Berlin's Kleiner Tiergarten in 2019 and sentenced to life in prison.
The request was seen as problematic for several reasons, the sources told CNN, among them that Krasikov remains in German custody. As such, and because the request was not communicated formally but rather through the FSB backchannel, the US government did not view it as a legitimate counter to the US' offer which was first revealed by CNN on Wednesday.
But underscoring how determined the Biden administration has been to get Griner and Whelan back to the US, US officials did make quiet inquiries to the Germans about whether they might be willing to include Krasikov in the trade, a senior German government source told CNN. A US official characterized the outreach as a status check on Krasikov.
CNN Exclusive: Russian officials requested adding convicted murderer to Griner/Whelan prisoner swap - CNNPolitics
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Putin is acting like a huge asshole right now but we had to get her back home somehow because this shit is getting dumb and stupid right nowThe biggest mistake everyone running their pieholes with the "Free Britney" uproar.... all they did was add value to her
CNN Exclusive: Russian officials requested adding convicted murderer to Griner/Whelan prisoner swap
(CNN)Russian government officials requested that a former colonel from the country's domestic spy agency who was convicted of murder in Germany last year be included in the US' proposed swap of a notorious arms dealer Viktor Bout for Brittney Griner and Paul Whelan, multiple sources familiar with the discussions told CNN.
The Russians communicated the request to the US earlier this month through an informal backchannel used by the spy agency, known as the FSB, that they wanted Vadim Krasikov released, the sources said. Krasikov was convicted in December of murdering a former Chechen fighter, Zelimkhan "Tornike" Khangoshvili, in Berlin's Kleiner Tiergarten in 2019 and sentenced to life in prison.
The request was seen as problematic for several reasons, the sources told CNN, among them that Krasikov remains in German custody. As such, and because the request was not communicated formally but rather through the FSB backchannel, the US government did not view it as a legitimate counter to the US' offer which was first revealed by CNN on Wednesday.
But underscoring how determined the Biden administration has been to get Griner and Whelan back to the US, US officials did make quiet inquiries to the Germans about whether they might be willing to include Krasikov in the trade, a senior German government source told CNN. A US official characterized the outreach as a status check on Krasikov.
CNN Exclusive: Russian officials requested adding convicted murderer to Griner/Whelan prisoner swap - CNNPolitics
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It's always the ones that are ignorant about politics that don't know when to STFU...... all the time they were screaming about nothing being done, something was being done.... behind the scenes quietly..... all they did was increase Putin's prize and make a deal less palatable.... now he wants someone locked up in another country in the deal... and I could swear that I heard someone say that he's trying to throw in sanction removal now
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I want Brittany home but I cannot give up that sanctions against Russia. I hate to say it but she may have to wait this out for a long time
Trump Sides With Russia Again, Calls Jailed American Brittney Griner 'Spoiled'
Trump indicates if he were president, he wouldn't make any deal to free the imprisoned basketball star because she "makes, you know, a lot of money."
Trump Sides With Russia Again, Calls Jailed American Brittney Griner 'Spoiled' | HuffPost Latest News
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Trump slams reported plan to exchange Griner, Whelan for arms dealer
Former President Donald Trump slammed the reported plan to exchange a Russian arms dealer for the freedom of WNBA star Brittney Griner and former Marine Paul Whelan during an appearance on the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show on Friday, saying the deal "doesn’t seem like a very good trade."
Driving the news: It was reported earlier this week that the Biden administration was exchanging Russian national Viktor Bout — currently serving a 25-year prison sentence for supplying weapons to a terrorist organization and conspiring to kill Americans — for Griner and Whelan's release.
What they're saying: Trump blamed Griner for her detention, repeatedly saying Griner went to Russia "loaded up with drugs."
Donald Trump slams reported prisoner swap of Brittney Griner, Paul Whelan for arms dealer (axios.com)
Former President Donald Trump slammed the reported plan to exchange a Russian arms dealer for the freedom of WNBA star Brittney Griner and former Marine Paul Whelan during an appearance on the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show on Friday, saying the deal "doesn’t seem like a very good trade."
Driving the news: It was reported earlier this week that the Biden administration was exchanging Russian national Viktor Bout — currently serving a 25-year prison sentence for supplying weapons to a terrorist organization and conspiring to kill Americans — for Griner and Whelan's release.
What they're saying: Trump blamed Griner for her detention, repeatedly saying Griner went to Russia "loaded up with drugs."
- "They’re very vigilant about drugs. They don’t like drugs. And she got caught. And now we’re supposed to get her out," Trump said.
- "We’re supposed to get her out for an absolute killer and one of the biggest arms dealers in the world. Killed many Americans. Killed many people. And he’s gonna get a free card and we’re gonna get her," Trump said, referring to Bout.
- "She knew you don’t go in there loaded up with drugs, and she admitted it. I assume she admitted it without too much force because it is what it is, and it certainly doesn’t seem like a very good trade, does it?"
- "He’s absolutely one of the worst in the world, and he’s going to be given his freedom because a potentially spoiled person goes into Russia loaded up with drugs," Trump said.
- However, Griner said that there was "no intent" to break the law by bringing vape cartridges containing hashish oil into Russia.
- Griner's lawyers also earlier this month told a Russian court that doctors in the U.S. prescribed Griner medical cannabis two years ago for chronic pain.
Donald Trump slams reported prisoner swap of Brittney Griner, Paul Whelan for arms dealer (axios.com)
Just so we are clear.......
Black men are currently serving time in the US for weed. But we should trade Russian murderers for Griners weed charge???
WTF!!
Black men are currently serving time in the US for weed. But we should trade Russian murderers for Griners weed charge???
WTF!!
Took you less than a minute to go from an eating popcorn reply right to your coon ass rightwing schtick...... soon as you saw your adopted dad's name you were off to the races..... beating yourself off into coon coma
sidebar: article was about his usual moronic comments on subjects that he knows little to nothing about
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