she did do a residency in Las Vegas that did well...so its not like she couldn't get no stand up work at all
Legal: Mo’Nique & Netflix Have Settled Racial & Gender Discrimination Lawsuit UPDATE: NEW NETFLIX SPECIAL COMING!
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Ain't no way in hell Netflix is going to pay her 50 million as a settlement. Now if you saying she got 50 mill worth of publicity than that's a different story.
Not saying she couldn't get work. The debate was how much her work was worth.
I still believe NETFLIX is right
No comparison to Amy, cause she sold out MSG
well she believes its worth more than half a million..thats not saying its on par with chappelle etc. its higher than what they said. Hell shumer said she's worth more than 11 MILLION and used rock and chappelle as examples herself.
In both cases you see a white woman and black woman saying my value is higher than what netflix said it was. Neither one said they wanted what chappelle got...both said no my value is higher than what your offering me. Also there were other aspects of her contract she disagreed with.
But what I see is the white woman complained and pushed back and people in general were good with it
and the black woman complained and pushed back and her own people said STFU.
her value is what ever the fuck netflix said it was to them
if she don't like it go find it somewhere else.... but she baited all y'all with race card...
value is what ever people will pay for said goods
you can try to sell your car for $100,000 but will somebody pay that?
netflix is paying her to go away..
Me? I believe you are mistaken....and you are clearly taking this personal...at this point I believe you have some real life connection to MoniqueI explained why I believed/sided with her... you're the one going naw fuck dat fuck dat I need to see more!
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and netflix said amy shumer value to them was 11 million and she baited them with the gender card and got 2 million more... everyone is playing their angles....what's your point again??
the only difference I see is when a black woman does it her OWN people tell her to STFU and knuckle under.
Well they're should have offered a milly but def not multi millions. Again she wasn't and still isn't making waves in stand up and Amy unfunny azz sold out MSG
and netflix said amy shumer value to them was 11 million and she baited them with the gender card and got 2 million more... everyone is playing their angles....what's your point again??
the only difference I see is when a black woman does it her OWN people tell her to STFU and knuckle under.
It's not a Black and white thing no matter how hard you struggle to make it. We love and support Black women, please let that sink in so that you can stop the bs.We love and support Black women.
We don't like Amy Shumer, she's a joke thief and not funny. Please let that sink in. It probably won't so I'll say it again.We don't like Amy Shumer, she's a joke thief and not funny.
Amy Shumer had a movie that grossed over 140 million dollars and she sold out MSG doing standup comedy. That's the only thing that we're basing our opinions on.
Amy Shumer's box office and standup comedy success is the only thing that we're basing our opinions on.
If you can generate movie sales, popularity and standup comedy ticket sales numbers then you have an argument. If not, you're just talking just to talk.
Netflix settled because they didn't want to open the books to show that they did pay women and minorities less. And they also didn't negotiate in good faith according to the law when they told her to fuck off.
Again, we love and support Black women. This isn't an issue about talent or who's funny? This is about numbers. Even fellow comedian Katt Williams said that.
If we did SOL wouldn't be necessary because there was a lot more black female participation (on a hetero-male oriented porn board mind you) than just the one or two who post once or twice in a purple moon. If we did black female PORN PERFORMERS would still be welcome here.
The reality is BGOL has no use or tolerance for black women unless theyre butt nekkid, suckin dick or saying something we agree with in general.
anything outside of those things...and its why are you even here?!
I'm just making a 100% honest observation since being on the board 10+ years..
And monique and lizzo personify everything bgol and black men in general hate about black women. Loud, strong personality, obese and oddly self confident in a way their look doesn't justify. And add dark skin to the mix of that and it all plays into a visual and stereotype that black men can't stand about black women.
So even if a woman like that has a legit beef...the majority of bgol will say fuck her for just existing in the first place.
I said it earlier...look at the results so far for the issues she's dealt with:
She was right about the Precious bullshit...lee daniels confirmed.
She was right about netflix.... the court ruling to go forward with the suit caused them to buckle.
She got Steve Harvey to expose his own shallowness on his own talk show
DL kinda sorta admitted on the air that he MAY have said shit to cause her to feel some type of way about him.
thru every single issue she stood her ground and for herself and most of the cats on the board were all FUCK THAT FAT BITCH SHE NEEDS TO STFU....
Now no one is willing to admit or cop to it here becuz all that shit is fucked up but it is what it is
but look at your bold...the thing YOU emphasized. Netflix has done women dirty and female POC in particular....her complaint is justified just off that.
they settled...they didnt rule in her favor...
i hope she got enough to last her forever because no one will want to work with her again
Her bank account states that they ruled in her favor but yes, the judgement didn’t technically rule in her favor.
All is well again in Monique's world. I hope she shows some humility moving forward....
If we did SOL wouldn't be necessary because there was a lot more black female participation (on a hetero-male oriented porn board mind you) than just the one or two who post once or twice in a purple moon. If we did black female PORN PERFORMERS would still be welcome here.
The reality is BGOL has no use or tolerance for black women unless theyre butt nekkid, suckin dick or saying something we agree with in general.
anything outside of those things...and its why are you even here?!
I'm just making a 100% honest observation since being on the board 10+ years..
And monique and lizzo personify everything bgol and black men in general hate about black women. Loud, strong personality, obese and oddly self confident in a way their look doesn't justify. And add dark skin to the mix of that and it all plays into a visual and stereotype that black men can't stand about black women.
So even if a woman like that has a legit beef...the majority of bgol will say fuck her for just existing in the first place.
I said it earlier...look at the results so far for the issues she's dealt with:
She was right about the Precious bullshit...lee daniels confirmed.
She was right about netflix.... the court ruling to go forward with the suit caused them to buckle.
She got Steve Harvey to expose his own shallowness on his own talk show
DL kinda sorta admitted on the air that he MAY have said shit to cause her to feel some type of way about him.
thru every single issue she stood her ground and for herself and most of the cats on the board were all FUCK THAT FAT BITCH SHE NEEDS TO STFU....
Now no one is willing to admit or cop to it here becuz all that shit is fucked up but it is what it is
but look at your bold...the thing YOU emphasized. Netflix has done women dirty and female POC in particular....her complaint is justified just off that.
This is a Black porn message board, this isn't a Hip Hop message board etc so it's hard to attack women. I can't speak of the women that were here in the past, I can't speak on their perspectives and posts that might've turned many members against them.
Some members may not want to hear what a woman has to say or her perspective, I don't believe that's the majority. Lizzo and Mo'Nique are two women that will draw definitive perspectives and attitudes with or against them. Being brown or dark skinned has nothing to do with it in my opinion.
Yes Mo'Nique turned out to be right about the discrimination, she was wrong to compare her offer to the comedians that she mentioned which is what most had an issue with. No one was privy to what other comedians\actors were offered so we had to go off of her offer and the comedians that she mentioned.
Comparing her offer to their offers made everyone say STFU and take the offer or move on. Which we still feel when comparing her offer to the other comedians.
Tyler, Steve, Lee and Oprah did her wrong and many of us said that.
this is like talking to a conservative white person about systemic racism in america
dude youve been here since 2007...I don't know what your participation/post level was in your first few years or so...but you are completely underplaying what the atmosphere was like around here at that time. In the 00s theres was much more female participation on the board...Hell when SOL was made mofos complained about it!
as you can see from 07 to today I'm still making the same statement about how black females are treated on the board.Re: >>>>THAT'S IT....BGOL vs SOL....THE DEBATE<<<<
this is sad..
dudes complaining that posting on a site where FEMALES are is gay???
dudes complaining about bans because they troll a board they HATE?? some of you motherfuckers sound like those racist crackers on stormfront or offtopic with the way you complain and talk about BLACK WOMEN
but if someone creates a thread about loving black women you simps got the goddamn nerve to talk about how much respect you have for black women in it..fuckin hypocrites..
not one person has complained about whitegirlsonline or latinaonline or asiansonline...but your OWN you have a problem with..
self hate is a motherfucker
that ran 10 pages right around the time you first joined. So your POV is skewed because you weren't here prior to that and didn't see how the females were treated.
Again dude....WE'RE A PORN BOARD.... WE USED TO HAVE FEMALE PORN PERFORMERS COME HERE..THEY DON'T ANYMORE (and this was long before OnlyFans and camming) THERES A REASON FOR THAT!!!
There are basic fellowship rules every message board has in order for the community to function ganging up on and harrassing people off the board for merely expressing a differing opinion or view is usually against that basic rule...for a long time it wasn't on bgol. You SHOULD be able to express a different opinion and hash it out thats what makes a community..otherwise its just an echo-chamber circle jerk around here. Thats why you don't see female participation on the mainboard anymore.
lets not act like there isn't colorism in the black community
thats the difference here..I don't compare here offer to other comedians I've always contended that she's worth more as a stand up than 500k. Thats not to say it should be same as chappelle or shumer. Her contention was she's worth more than 500k and whatever fucked up points were in the offer. Again the fact that netflix has a history of lowballing or underpaying females speaks to that.
I agree that there heads here who said it...but not as many as your making it to be...
this is like talking to a conservative white person about systemic racism in america
dude youve been here since 2007...I don't know what your participation/post level was in the first five years or so...but you are completely underplaying it. In the 00s theres was much more female participation on the board..Hell when SOL was made mofo complained about it!
that ran 10 pages right around the time you first joined. So your POV is skewed because you weren't here prior to that and didn't see how the females were treated.
Again dude....WE'RE A PORN BOARD.... WE USED TO HAVE FEMALE PORN PERFORMERS COME HERE..THEY DON'T ANYMORE (and this was long before OnlyFans and camming) does that make any sense??
There are basic fellowship rules every message board has in order for the community to function ganging up on and harrassing people off the board for merely expressing a differing opinion or view is usually against that basic rule...for a long time it wasn't on bgol. You SHOULD be able to express a different opinion and hash it out thats what makes a community..otherwise its just an echo-chamber circle jerk around here. Thats why you don't see female participation on the mainboard anymore.
lets not act like there isn't colorism in the black community
thats the difference here..I don't compare here offer to other comedians I've always contended that she's worth more as a stand up than 500k. Thats not to say it should be same as chappelle or shumer. Her contention was she's worth more than 500k and whatever fucked up points were in the offer. Again the fact that netflix has a history of lowballing or underpaying females speaks to that.
I agree that there heads here who said it...but not as many as your making it to be...
Bruh no matter what I say you're gonna argue against it.
Go Warriors!
THAT we agree on....FUCK BOSTON!!Bruh no matter what I say you're gonna argue against it.
Go Warriors!
I'm guessing she got between 1 and 2 Milly. That's a short term financial win for her, but long term no one gonna fuck with her again unless she is able undergo a major career revival. Also, her supposed claim of black women getting paid fairly is completely unaddressed.
Remember the lawsuit was not about payment or potential payment, it was about whether Netflix negotiated fairly with Monique or not. Her damages could not be above what Netflix would potentially have counter offered her if they hadn't ended negotiations early.
Remember the lawsuit was not about payment or potential payment, it was about whether Netflix negotiated fairly with Monique or not. Her damages could not be above what Netflix would potentially have counter offered her if they hadn't ended negotiations early.
A closed mouf' don't get fed, but her future meals gone be lean for a while.
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wow its quiet around here..... what happened to all the opinions and lectures???
more crickets up in here than a cac trailer park.
more crickets up in here than a cac trailer park.
This new special is gonna be very very important
First Monique better bring it gotta bring it
( just so I can brag how I told yall she is actually funny)
I'm sure there are some pre made excuses getting cooked up right now to defend a flop
But all that ain't gonna matter
If this ain't FUNNY?
But if it is?
This is a literal life change career change legacy change in just 90 minutes
The ratings will be a big factor too.
Cause what if people do something crazy and ironic and boycott her special?
What if the hate watch numbers get this thing trending to number one?
Or it's panned universally like Cat Williams special and there is no hate watch or curiosity
Just nothing.
I guess the worst outcome?
If it's mediocre...
Is that people just don't care.
First Monique better bring it gotta bring it
( just so I can brag how I told yall she is actually funny)
I'm sure there are some pre made excuses getting cooked up right now to defend a flop
But all that ain't gonna matter
If this ain't FUNNY?
But if it is?
This is a literal life change career change legacy change in just 90 minutes
The ratings will be a big factor too.
Cause what if people do something crazy and ironic and boycott her special?
What if the hate watch numbers get this thing trending to number one?
Or it's panned universally like Cat Williams special and there is no hate watch or curiosity
Just nothing.
I guess the worst outcome?
If it's mediocre...
Is that people just don't care.
She better bring her a game that's all I'm gone say