Half of Americans anticipate a U.S. civil war soon, survey finds

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Half of Americans anticipate a U.S. civil war soon, survey finds
Findings suggest rising gun violence will spill into the political sphere, driven by conspiracy theories


Violence can seem to be everywhere in the United States, and political violence is in the spotlight, with the 6 January 2021 insurrection as exhibit A. Now, a large study confirms one in five Americans believes violence motivated by political reasons is—at least sometimes—justified. Nearly half expect a civil war, and many say they would trade democracy for a strong leader, a preprint posted today on medRxiv found.

“This is not a study that’s meant to shock,” says Rachel Kleinfeld, a political violence expert at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace who was not involved in the research. “But it should be shocking.”

Firearm deaths in the United States grew by nearly 43% between 2010 and 2020, and gun sales surged during the coronavirus pandemic. Garen Wintemute, an emergency medicine physician and longtime gun violence researcher at the University of California, Davis, wondered what those trends portend for civil unrest. “Sometimes being an ER [emergency room] doc is like being the bowman on the Titanic going, ‘Look at that iceberg!’” he says.

He and his colleagues surveyed more than 8600 adults in English and Spanish about their views on democracy in the United States, racial attitudes in U.S. society, and their own attitudes toward political violence. The respondents were part of the Ipsos KnowledgePanel—an online research panel that has been used widely, including by Wintemute for research on violence and firearm ownership. The team then applied statistical methods to extrapolate the survey results to the entire country.

Although almost all respondents thought it’s important for the United States to remain a democracy, about 40% said having a strong leader is more important. Half expect a civil war in the United States in the next few years. (The survey didn’t specify when.) “The fact that basically half the country is expecting a civil war is just chilling,” Wintemute says. And many expect to take part. If found in a situation where they think violence is justified to advance an important political objective, about one in five respondents thinks they will likely be armed with a gun. About 7% of participants—which would correspond to about 18 million U.S. adults—said they would be willing to kill a person in such a situation.

Kleinfeld says the study’s findings are compelling because of the large number of participants and because it asked about specific scenarios in which participants think violence is justified—such as for self-defense or to stop people with different political beliefs from voting. The sample does slightly overrepresent older people, who are not known to commit much violence worldwide, she says. “So the fact that you’re [still] getting these high numbers … is really quite concerning.”

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She is less alarmed by the shaky support for democracy, noting that political gridlock—as in U.S. politics today—can often distort attitudes. “What people mean by ‘democracy’ is pretty fuzzy,” she says. Political paralysis, she adds, can quickly lead people who think, “Yeah, I like democracy,” to also say, “Yeah, I want a strong man” in leadership.

“The findings are scary, but not surprising,” Kurt Braddock, who studies the psychology of extremist communication at American University, wrote in an email to Science. In recent years, he says, the United States has seen an increase in individual willingness to engage in violence—homicides in cities increased 44% between 2019 and 2021, for instance—an attitude he says is likely to spill into the political sphere.

Researchers have criticized the sampling and survey methodology of previous studies that found increasing support for political violence. But the new study generally agrees with earlier efforts, Kleinfeld says. A small survey from 2021, for instance, found about 46% of voters thought the United States would have another civil war, and another showed more than one-third of Americans agree that “The traditional American way of life is disappearing so fast that we may have to use force to save it.” Barbara Walter, a political scientist at the University of California, San Diego, who was also not involved in the study, agrees. But she suspects the survey responses overrepresent the number of Americans who would be willing to turn to violence because, she says, surveys tend to overstate what people actually think. “The numbers always tend to be shocking, but in essence, are probably not true.”

Wintemute and colleagues found that conspiracy theories, some rooted in racism, are helping shape views about political violence. They found roughly two in five adults agreed with the white nationalist “great replacement theory,” or the idea that native-born white voters are being replaced by immigrants for electoral gains. And one in five respondents believed the false QAnon conspiracy theory that U.S. institutions are controlled by an elite group of Satan-worshipping pedophiles. Respondents’ belief in conspiracy theories might partially explain their views on democracy and political violence, Walter says, but she wishes the survey went deeper to explain the particular reasons why the participants would choose to engage in violence.

Both Braddock and Kleinfeld wish the new study responses were broken down by partisan affiliation because previous surveys show engaging in violence is much more prevalent in right-leaning individuals. “That is a key oversight,” Braddock says. “If readiness for civil war is coming from one side [and not in both], we need to know that.” The study team did look at affiliation with certain extremist groups such as the Proud Boys, but Wintemute said his group is now working on follow-up analyses of the survey to look at other political affiliations and will also launch a follow-up survey with the same group of respondents by the end of the year to further examine the role of certain group identities and propensity for political violence.

To reduce the threat of political violence, Braddock says, the first step is to call out the disinformation online and in right-wing media, some of which is taken directly from extremist propaganda. “We need to call that out for what it is before we can begin to address the problems it is causing.” Regulating social media to avoid “incendiary” misinformation from spreading could also help, Walter says. Kleinfeld adds that leaders—from politicians and media personalities to church pastors—can also make a difference. Experiments show courageous leaders can deter their communities from engaging in violence. “Now’s the time to take this seriously and not put our heads in the sand,” Kleinfeld says.
 
Didn't read the article but, where exactly are the battle lines going to be drawn? Like, when the rubber meets the road where they think they'll be fighting? And against whom. Seriously, outside of a full on race war, who would be the combatants? I don't want to hear lizard people or the Satanist Illuminati Cabal. None of the tin foil hat shit.
 
Didn't read the article but, where exactly are the battle lines going to be drawn? Like, when the rubber meets the road where they think they'll be fighting? And against whom. Seriously, outside of a full on race war, who would be the combatants? I don't want to hear lizard people or the Satanist Illuminati Cabal. None of the tin foil hat shit.
well, they GONNA be fighting the local police first, then the State police, then the feds.
 
White people have a different type of crazy…
The Shocking Savagery of America’s Early History

Bernard Bailyn, one of our greatest historians, shines his light on the nation’s Dark Ages

Bailyn is speaking of one of the early and bloodiest encounters, between our peaceful pumpkin pie-eating Pilgrims and the original inhabitants of the land they wanted to seize, the Pequots. But for Bailyn, the mercenary motive is less salient than the theological.


“The ferocity of that little war is just unbelievable,” Bailyn says. “The butchering that went on cannot be explained by trying to get hold of a piece of land. They were really struggling with this central issue for them, of the advent of the Antichrist.”


Suddenly, I felt a chill from the wintry New England air outside enter into the warmth of his study.

The Antichrist. The haunting figure presaging the Apocalypse from the Book of Revelation plays an important part in Bailyn’s explanation of the European settlers’ descent into unrestrained savagery. The key passage on this question comes late in his new book when Bailyn makes explicit a connection I had not seen before: between the physical savagery the radical dissenting Protestant settlers of America wreaked on the original inhabitants, and the intellectual savagery of their polemical attacks on the church and state authorities they fled from in Europe—and the savagery of vicious insult and vile denunciation they wreaked upon each other as well.

“The savagery of the [theological] struggle, the bitterness of the main contenders and the deep stain it left on the region’s collective memory” were driven by “elemental fears peculiar to what was experienced as a barbarous environment—fears of what could happen to civilized people in an unimaginable wilderness...in which God’s children [as they thought of themselves] were fated to struggle with pitiless agents of Satan, pagan Antichrists swarming in the world around them. The two [kinds of struggle, physical and metaphysical] were one: threats from within [to the soul] merged with threats from without to form a heated atmosphere of apocalyptic danger.”

they see themselves as God's Knights when all the while they're Satan's storm troopers. they SUPER crazy.

 
Talk of an impending civil war is sensationalized crazy talk. There are not enough crazies on the extreme left or the extreme right where all of the malcontents & crazies are. The overwhelming majority of Americans are middle-of-the road -- people who will quickly put the crazies in check.
Had the crazies at the Jan 6th insurrection not dispersed -- the National Guard -- D.C. PD would have moved in and mowed them down -- as they will any large group that tries to foment a civil war.
 
The Civil War in the 1800s was easy to conduct cuz there were no distractions.

- No Internet
- No streaming services
- No sports
- No Titty Bars
- No Las Vegas

And the folks out there getting there head blown off we’re broke as fuck. They were out there for three meals and a cot.
 
The same test determined half of the American population are idiots, ironically the civil war they said would occur would be fought over which sides are the idiots.
 
Media refuses to lump all young white men together in a profile of crime like they do Black, Hispanic, Arab, even young Asians depending on where you live.

They need to publicly let it be known there is a profile for these crimes and we are watching you.
 
The Civil War in the 1800s was easy to conduct cuz there were no distractions.

- No Internet
- No streaming services
- No sports
- No Titty Bars
- No Las Vegas

And the folks out there getting there head blown off we’re broke as fuck. They were out there for three meals and a cot.
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You got black women and others just dying for integration and chasing after me trying to run for political office such as governor or President after getting their college degrees with no private sector experience.

Once in this critical position such as governor, the results of elections will be in doubt leading to conflict. This is what they will use to start their race war. Many of them have low racial self awareness and are aloof.

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I will be observing this conflict from overseas that I knew would happen.
 
:yawn: Tell these patriots to bring it on. I don't know who they think they will be fighting but good luck to them. |
Meanwhile...stack ammo and $$$ and let the barbarians do what they must.
 
Admittedly, I didn’t read the article but even though there is a lot of division, there isn’t a singular issue that a significant number of people are willing to die over. Additionally, there is so much division now that a single group can’t get large and powerful enough to be a threat. Tea Party, Trumpsters, and anti vaxers have similar ideologies, but also differ in a lot of ways that would keep them from joining into a powerful Conservative group. I don’t see a significant threat from any left leaning group. In my observations, CAC really started losing it when Obama became President. That rage in addition to Hillary Clinton led to Trump winning the Presidency. Trump then invigorated racist CACs. Combine that with Social Media and we have the division we have now.
 
Half of Americans anticipate a U.S. civil war soon, survey finds
Findings suggest rising gun violence will spill into the political sphere, driven by conspiracy theories


Violence can seem to be everywhere in the United States, and political violence is in the spotlight, with the 6 January 2021 insurrection as exhibit A. Now, a large study confirms one in five Americans believes violence motivated by political reasons is—at least sometimes—justified. Nearly half expect a civil war, and many say they would trade democracy for a strong leader, a preprint posted today on medRxiv found.

“This is not a study that’s meant to shock,” says Rachel Kleinfeld, a political violence expert at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace who was not involved in the research. “But it should be shocking.”

Firearm deaths in the United States grew by nearly 43% between 2010 and 2020, and gun sales surged during the coronavirus pandemic. Garen Wintemute, an emergency medicine physician and longtime gun violence researcher at the University of California, Davis, wondered what those trends portend for civil unrest. “Sometimes being an ER [emergency room] doc is like being the bowman on the Titanic going, ‘Look at that iceberg!’” he says.

He and his colleagues surveyed more than 8600 adults in English and Spanish about their views on democracy in the United States, racial attitudes in U.S. society, and their own attitudes toward political violence. The respondents were part of the Ipsos KnowledgePanel—an online research panel that has been used widely, including by Wintemute for research on violence and firearm ownership. The team then applied statistical methods to extrapolate the survey results to the entire country.

Although almost all respondents thought it’s important for the United States to remain a democracy, about 40% said having a strong leader is more important. Half expect a civil war in the United States in the next few years. (The survey didn’t specify when.) “The fact that basically half the country is expecting a civil war is just chilling,” Wintemute says. And many expect to take part. If found in a situation where they think violence is justified to advance an important political objective, about one in five respondents thinks they will likely be armed with a gun. About 7% of participants—which would correspond to about 18 million U.S. adults—said they would be willing to kill a person in such a situation.

Kleinfeld says the study’s findings are compelling because of the large number of participants and because it asked about specific scenarios in which participants think violence is justified—such as for self-defense or to stop people with different political beliefs from voting. The sample does slightly overrepresent older people, who are not known to commit much violence worldwide, she says. “So the fact that you’re [still] getting these high numbers … is really quite concerning.”

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She is less alarmed by the shaky support for democracy, noting that political gridlock—as in U.S. politics today—can often distort attitudes. “What people mean by ‘democracy’ is pretty fuzzy,” she says. Political paralysis, she adds, can quickly lead people who think, “Yeah, I like democracy,” to also say, “Yeah, I want a strong man” in leadership.

“The findings are scary, but not surprising,” Kurt Braddock, who studies the psychology of extremist communication at American University, wrote in an email to Science. In recent years, he says, the United States has seen an increase in individual willingness to engage in violence—homicides in cities increased 44% between 2019 and 2021, for instance—an attitude he says is likely to spill into the political sphere.

Researchers have criticized the sampling and survey methodology of previous studies that found increasing support for political violence. But the new study generally agrees with earlier efforts, Kleinfeld says. A small survey from 2021, for instance, found about 46% of voters thought the United States would have another civil war, and another showed more than one-third of Americans agree that “The traditional American way of life is disappearing so fast that we may have to use force to save it.” Barbara Walter, a political scientist at the University of California, San Diego, who was also not involved in the study, agrees. But she suspects the survey responses overrepresent the number of Americans who would be willing to turn to violence because, she says, surveys tend to overstate what people actually think. “The numbers always tend to be shocking, but in essence, are probably not true.”

Wintemute and colleagues found that conspiracy theories, some rooted in racism, are helping shape views about political violence. They found roughly two in five adults agreed with the white nationalist “great replacement theory,” or the idea that native-born white voters are being replaced by immigrants for electoral gains. And one in five respondents believed the false QAnon conspiracy theory that U.S. institutions are controlled by an elite group of Satan-worshipping pedophiles. Respondents’ belief in conspiracy theories might partially explain their views on democracy and political violence, Walter says, but she wishes the survey went deeper to explain the particular reasons why the participants would choose to engage in violence.

Both Braddock and Kleinfeld wish the new study responses were broken down by partisan affiliation because previous surveys show engaging in violence is much more prevalent in right-leaning individuals. “That is a key oversight,” Braddock says. “If readiness for civil war is coming from one side [and not in both], we need to know that.” The study team did look at affiliation with certain extremist groups such as the Proud Boys, but Wintemute said his group is now working on follow-up analyses of the survey to look at other political affiliations and will also launch a follow-up survey with the same group of respondents by the end of the year to further examine the role of certain group identities and propensity for political violence.

To reduce the threat of political violence, Braddock says, the first step is to call out the disinformation online and in right-wing media, some of which is taken directly from extremist propaganda. “We need to call that out for what it is before we can begin to address the problems it is causing.” Regulating social media to avoid “incendiary” misinformation from spreading could also help, Walter says. Kleinfeld adds that leaders—from politicians and media personalities to church pastors—can also make a difference. Experiments show courageous leaders can deter their communities from engaging in violence. “Now’s the time to take this seriously and not put our heads in the sand,” Kleinfeld says.

That article is full of shit, what they are not telling you is,

The govt is TRYING to start a civil war amongst the masses BUUUUUT

they are causing the stress, by these fuckin plandemics, and mandates, fake ass food shortages,

dumping crates of rare fully automatic guns in the hood, yet despite this.

ALL EYES on the GOVT people are NOT stupid they see the GOVT literally STOPPING our stimulus checks,

and slowly sending the money to ukraine, which is how the wealthy launder OUR money,

into THEIR coffers..

So the WEALTHY been waging ECONOMIC war on the MASSES for years, THE MASSES NEVER PLAYED OFFENSE YET...

THE ARTICLE SHOULD BE SAYING, THE MASSES ARE WAKING UP AND REALIZING WHO THE REAL ENEMY IS

THE WEALTHY CLASS THATS BEEN USING THINK TANKS TO FIND WAYS TO ROB US.

AND USING WARS TO LAUNDER OUR MONEY IS PLAYED THE FUCK OUT..

TIME TO PAY ALL THAT SHIT BACK!!

call it a fuckin civil war, call it whatever the fuck you want, We call it..

TIRED OF BEING FUCKED.. and TIME TO START FUCKING!!!

the wealthy class kNOWS this day is coming, thats why they have

shitty articles like this to throw you off..

They better stop this war NOW and START that STIMULUS back up..

it aint a STIMULUS its A FUCKIN REPAYMENT PLAN!!
 
Admittedly, I didn’t read the article but even though there is a lot of division, there isn’t a singular issue that a significant number of people are willing to die over. Additionally, there is so much division now that a single group can’t get large and powerful enough to be a threat. Tea Party, Trumpsters, and anti vaxers have similar ideologies, but also differ in a lot of ways that would keep them from joining into a powerful Conservative group. I don’t see a significant threat from any left leaning group. In my observations, CAC really started losing it when Obama became President. That rage in addition to Hillary Clinton led to Trump winning the Presidency. Trump then invigorated racist CACs. Combine that with Social Media and we have the division we have now.

dont get confused with the bullshit.. wealthy class tryin to mindfuck you, they are the cause of everything,

all this shit really started when isrealis mossads pedo extortion ring got exposed..

THATS WHEN IT ALL STARTED.. the world went super wacky ever since....

Epstein got locked up... six months later..U.S. states begin to shut down to prevent the spread of COVID-19

Bruh THEY KNOW WE COMING SOONER OR LATER...

thats why they are ATTACKING US NOW!!

but they mad pussy they fight us, but make us think they are NOT attacking us.

INFLATION is an ECONOMIC ATTACK and how the STEAL our money

whenever they want to...

Inflation just automatically infates everything BUT wages.. and nobody

questions that fuckery...

the fact that we pay so much for rents and homes, we DONT EVEN

OWN THE TITLES TO..

Its over.. ITS LITERALLY OVER but

the masses havent gotten the memo yet,

when they do, the wealthy better get into them fuckin shuttles

or go fuckin underground.. wherever the fuck..

there will be NO civil war..

Only

TURNABOUT.. and they all know

TURNABOUT
IS
FAIRPLAY!!!!
 
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South Africa almost had a nationwide race war. They let Mandela out and made him president in order to stop it. This would have been a race war that would have spread world wide. That is why America was very concerned. And using Mandela to stop blacks from fighting for their land, resources and independence worked so well in South Africa they started making plans for an Obama over here.
Taking over and building white is a lot different than a desire to be a part of satan's empire.
 
To quote this country song, My home is protected by the good Lord and a gun, and you might meet 'em both if you show up here unwelcome son."

Bring it, CACs
 
When the first airstrike comes in from a jet, that movement will die in minutes.
It's why gun rights advocacy is based on bullshit. I'm a gun owner, the Supreme Court basterdized the English language to reach the first amendment conclusion on the right to bare arms.
 
What civil war? Let the Military unleash drones and lasers on these idiots they’ll be crying like they were during their January 6th trials. Cowards all of them. They think it’s 1700. Ain’t no more muskets and horses. Shit will be over in 10 minutes
 
Didn't read the article but, where exactly are the battle lines going to be drawn? Like, when the rubber meets the road where they think they'll be fighting? And against whom. Seriously, outside of a full on race war, who would be the combatants? I don't want to hear lizard people or the Satanist Illuminati Cabal. None of the tin foil hat shit.
It’ll be a battle between the pro-whites!
(the far-left super-liberals and LGBT club Luciferians) vs. far-right rednecks and the white Christian fundamentalist Neanderthals). The only way so-called blacks get affected will be collateral damage or trying to rescue the super-liberals they believe are their friends. I hope they all take each other out and we start over from before they came over here. That’s part of the whole “Great Reset” anyway :lol:
 
To be honest we are already at war. That's what many of these mass shootings are about. Young white unfulfilled males vs. everybody else.

They are using terror as a weapon and going out on their shield but leaving manifestos and clues for copycats and supporters.
Been at war since so-called white people came here. This war has been going on for centuries now but it is about to come to an end the same way it started. People who aren’t spiritual or disconnected from their soul don’t see it.

It is also the reason that so-called whites don’t rule very long. They are too violent, too impulsive, show no morality with outsiders / stab allies in the back, don’t understand pace and timing and burn out quickly. This is due to their Neanderthal DNA because they are hybrids.

We read in the history books about fallen empires and we are witnessing one in real time right now. And unlike sports franchises, fallen empires don’t come back, ever.
 
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