Joe Biden Loses Base as Black Voters Want Different 2024 Candidate: Poll

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[geechiedan]

Nah, liberalism is a morality choice that can become political. Liberalism: usually perpetuated by white hippies that abuse drugs, lack order and structure, rebel against righteousness and embrace anarchy and chaos due to being irresponsible. They are left-hand path Luciferians that embrace the feminine principles. Trump has multiple children by different women, is an attention whore, pro-immigrant, fucks porn hoes raw, abuses drugs, never believed in accountability, proven liar and con man. That is liberal to me.

oookay

 

[Soul On Ice]

Minus whale ask them what a woman is on top of that.

They can't answer simple questions and immediately resort to personal attacks. It's because they have impossible positions to defend.

They will accuse folks of trying to get people not to vote, right? Mind you, all cats tying to do is hold people ACCOUNTABLE. That's it. But when you demand accountability you get whataboutism and canned talking points.

Keep trying to get answers from cats who let cacs with blue hair come up with their talking points and defend a guy who helped lock up more black people than any republican boogeyman out here. You see how quick these cats defend him and hunter?

I'd take it you step further.
They say "just vote"
I ask what are you voting FOR?
The politicians literally tell Black people what they NOT gonna do for us (shout out Abrams and Kamala).

The shills make it seem like there's things and people on the ballot worth voting for.

Then they say "if you don't vote a republican gonna get elected and take back what little gains Black people have made and even might make us slaves again"

Just smh

 

[Supersav]

@VAiz4hustlaz

 

[geechiedan]

@VAiz4hustlaz

You do know that Dems and the GOP collude to prevent third-party candidates?

 

[Supersav]

 

[BKF]

Exactly....

 

[Joe Money]

Exactly....

@geechiedan, at your age, you should know that all that salt and butter in popcorn isn’t good for you. I never said that a third-party candidate could not win. Now let’s critically assess what I have said in this thread concerning the third-party issue. Not what you think I’ve said with your feminine brain. BKF is irrelevant because he doesn’t read words at all…..just as you don’t “care to look at numbers.”

You do know that Dems and the GOP collude to prevent third-party candidates?

Nothing in Supersav’s first quoted tweet denies this, and I’m sure he and other third-party candidate supporters would agree with it. Notice that the second tweet talks about how the Democrats fight hard to keep Green Party candidates off the ballot.

It takes way more than "momentum" to run as a third-party candidate, especially since our political system isn't structured for them anyway.

Once again, where’s the conflict?

And I even posted this:

BKF, read something. Please. It won't hurt you to educate yourself a little bit.

America Isn’t Really Set Up For Third-Party Presidential Bids

Former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz’s dalliance with a 2020 presidential run as an independent has sparked outrage among many in the Democratic Party who are wo…

fivethirtyeight.com

Third-party politics: lesson overview (article) | Khan Academy

A high-level overview of the barriers to electoral success facing third-party and independent candidates.

www.khanacademy.org

Then come back to the discussion......

And this mostly pertains to third-party candidates on the presidential level.

So geechie, do you see how easy it is to critically read for yourself?

 

[geechiedan]

ALL DAT SHIT BY YOU

you need to talk to 850credit about all that... he's the one who brought it up.

All the resident ride or die Democrats let's see if you go down with your ship.

Third party politics is the only way but as long as naysayers convince everyone it can't be done, it won't be.

 

[BKF]

@geechiedan, at your age, you should know that all that salt and butter in popcorn isn’t good for you. I never said that a third-party candidate could not win. Now let’s critically assess what I have said in this thread concerning the third-party issue. Not what you think I’ve said with your feminine brain. BKF is irrelevant because he doesn’t read words at all…..just as you don’t “care to look at numbers.”



Nothing in Supersav’s first quoted tweet denies this, and I’m sure he and other third-party candidate supporters would agree with it. Notice that the second tweet talks about how the Democrats fight hard to keep Green Party candidates off the ballot.



Once again, where’s the conflict?

And I even posted this:



And this mostly pertains to third-party candidates on the presidential level.

So geechie, do you see how easy it is to critically read for yourself?

That was cute and all Little Debbie but you responded to my post of me saying most of the people who are naysayers..(which is what 850crefit introduced) are the very people talk about third parties.
I gave an example of Bernie Sanders and many of his supporters making excuses as to why Bernie didn't/couldn't run as an Independent vs running on the democratic ticket. You replied to those post with excuses ("it takes more than momentum" "dems/Republicans work together to prevent third parties", etc......). Proving my point naysayer...

 

[Joe Money]

you need to talk to 850credit about all that... he's the one who brought it up.

Nigga, YOU quoted me!

 

[Joe Money]

That was cute and all Little Debbie but you responded to my post of me saying most of the people who are naysayers..(which is what 850crefit introduced) are the very people talk about third parties.
I gave an example of Bernie Sanders and many of his supporters making excuses as to why Bernie didn't/couldn't run as an Independent vs running on the democratic ticket. You replied to those post with excuses ("it takes more than momentum" "dems/Republicans work together to prevent third parties", etc......). Proving my point naysayer...

No, I tried to educate you on the STRUCTURAL obstacles that third-party candidates face, especially on the national level. That goes far beyond anything you’re talking about.

BTW, what has the Biden Administration done for Black America? You people have yet to answer that.

 

[geechiedan]

Nigga, YOU quoted me!

nigga YOU tagged me into the fuckin thread on this very quote..

All the resident ride or die Democrats let's see if you go down with your ship.

Third party politics is the only way but as long as naysayers convince everyone it can't be done, it won't be.

@geechiedan

you must be stuck on stupid today

 

[Supersav]

No, I tried to educate you on the STRUCTURAL obstacles that third-party candidates face, especially on the national level. That goes far beyond anything you’re talking about.

BTW, what has the Biden Administration done for Black America? You people have yet to answer that.

They can't and won't.

 

[Tom Slick]

BTW, what has the Biden Administration done for Black America? You people have yet to answer that.

"But what have the republicans done for Black America???" is all they can respond with.

 

[Joe Money]

nigga YOU tagged me into the fuckin thread on this very quote..

you must be stuck on stupid today

I tagged you on Page 2. Four days ago. Four pages ago. Are you senile old man? You quoted me THIS MORNING with your silly-ass popcorn emojis on some “gotcha” shit, as if anything I’ve said was at odds with those tweets.

BTW, are you going down with the Dem ship or not?

 

[Supersav]

I tagged you on Page 2. Four days ago. Four pages ago. Are you senile old man? You quoted me THIS MORNING with your silly-ass popcorn emojis on some “gotcha” shit, as if anything I’ve said was at odds with those tweets.



BTW, are you going down with the Dem ship or not?

I'm just going to keep asking them what has been done for black people. The silence is all I need

 

[Supersav]

I'm just going to keep asking them what has been done for black people. The silence is all I need

 

[geechiedan]

I tagged you on Page 2. Four days ago. Four pages ago. Are you senile old man? You quoted me THIS MORNING with your silly-ass popcorn emojis on some “gotcha” shit, as if anything I’ve said was at odds with those tweets.



BTW, are you going down with the Dem ship or not?

Who gives a fuck about the days dumbass its an ongoing thread.
Anyone come in a reply to any quote. There's no time limit on that shit.

Dumbass

 

[Joe Money]

“But Massa Biden dun changed! He gud white folks. He sed he gon’ be good tuh us! Madda fack, he sed if y’all don’t vote fuh him, den you ain’t Black!”

 

[Joe Money]

Who gives a fuck about the days dumbass its an ongoing thread.
Anyone come in a reply to any quote. There's no time limit on that shit.

Dumbass

Geechie, is dementia kicking in? Do you know what day of the week it is. You quoted me TODAY in a conversation about the third-party issue so I replied TODAY and now you’re complaining about a tag from FOUR DAYS AGO. Do all your days just run together now? Or do you exist outside of space/time?

 

[BKF]

No, I tried to educate you on the STRUCTURAL obstacles that third-party candidates face, especially on the national level. That goes far beyond anything you’re talking about.

BTW, what has the Biden Administration done for Black America? You people have yet to answer that.

Biden hasn't done shit for black folk but what does that have to do with your naysaying..?

Oh...and look who cosigned this post.

"The Perot Simulator
In order to give an idea of what can happen when a presidential election features a very strong run by a third party candidacy, we took the liberty of tweaking the results of the 1992 election, where Texas billionaire Ross Perot literally gave Bill Clinton and George Bush a run for their money.

We decided to see what would have happened if Perot had run a more a more sustained long-term campaign than he did (if you’ll remember, he pulled back from active campaigning in the summer, then re-charged his efforts in September). The results of this particular hypothetical are quite revealing. Perot would have won the presidency in 1992 if he increased his vote percentage from 18.91% (the real result) to 34.79%, less than twice what he actually managed, winning a landslide of 320 electoral votes.

He could have achieved this by drawing equally from Bush and Clinton in all states, but, and this is important, without winning the popular vote. In this scenario, Clinton would still have been the winner of the popular vote at 35.07%. As we actually did in 2000, we would have had a president elected without winning the popular vote. See the Excel spreadsheet with the data.

Despite exit polls that showed that Perot drew essentially equally from his rivals, many people feel that Perot siphoned more support from Bush than from Clinton. Humoring this position, we also took a look at what would have happened if Perot drew 60% of his votes from would-be Bush voters, and 40% from Clinton. With those numbers, the Electoral College result would have been dramatically different. Perot would have won only 248 electoral votes, no one would have won a majority in the Electoral College, and the election would have been decided in Congress. Here’s the spreadsheet on this scenario.

Just a slightly smaller percentage increase for Perot (34.04% as opposed to the 35.07% of the first example, drawing equally from Bush and Clinton) would also have dramatically altered the Electoral College result. Perot would have won only 241 electoral votes, also with no electoral vote majority and a House-decided presidency. See those numbers here.

What does it all mean? A few things. First, it shows us that a strong third party candidate can, in fact, win an election. It is not implausible to speculate that someone like Michael Bloomberg could turn in a very strong showing in the 35% range in a three-way race. In our 1992 hypothetical, that was all Perot would have needed.

Our fictional-yet-feasible election scenario also debunks the myth that the Electoral College is the biggest obstacle in the way of a third party candidate winning the presidency. There are, indeed, many forces working against an independent run for the White House, but as our example shows, the Electoral College is not necessarily one of them.

Finally, we can see how our current system is so vulnerable to electing popular vote losers, especially in a situation where states can be won by a small plurality of just over 33% in a three-way race. The solutions? States are already signing onto the National Popular Vote plan to neutralize the Electoral College. Other states are seriously debating instant runoff voting, a voting method proving popular in cities, that protects majority rule while accommodating voter choice."

Oh but wait....there's more...

The two parties own the electoral process. So, no, they aint going nowhere.
Even if black folk were to form our own party. Being that our population isn't that large (compared to the white and other population), we'd still need allies, and we'd still need either party to get thing passed.

What I don't understand is what's keeping black folk from holding elected officals accountable within the Democratic Party now, like what he claims he wants to do with a black party?
It's not like there aren't black democrats in control of local governments in this country. So what difference would forming (and I'm not saying don't do it) a black party really make?

Like I said.. I have said such things multiple times and these are just a two examples. So again.. You aint educating me on nothing.

 

[geechiedan]

The fuck you posting that shit for. You don't vote at all...remember

Because for the 100th time I don't participate in the bullshit. The problem is the system dem, republican, green,blue ,pink...all serve capitalism.

And I speak for myself..I know you can't grasp independent thought it critical thinking so we all must have the same views

now before you and the wack-pack start crowing about how that quote was in a different thread its all political and about election and you make it clear that you don't participant in none of it because its all about capitalism. So until the system is burned down and thrown out and new one is erected you have no dog in the fight.

 

[geechiedan]

Geechie, is dementia kicking in? Do you know what day of the week it is. You quoted me TODAY in a conversation about the third-party issue so I replied TODAY and now you’re complaining about a tag from FOUR DAYS AGO. Do all your days just run together now? Or do you exist outside of space/time?

just STFU dude...seriously its a sad look for you and you troll poorly

dumbass

 

[Joe Money]

just STFU dude...seriously its a sad look for you and you troll poorly

dumbass

Who’s trolling? You quoted me with your shit and I gave you a legit response. Now you’re mad because your silly-ass Shade Room tactics didn’t work?

Go drink some warm milk and take your old ass to bed.

 

[Joe Money]

Biden hasn't done shit for black folk……

Thank you. That’s all you needed to say.

 

[Supersav]

Thank you. That’s all you needed to say.

Finally

 

[BKF]

Thank you. That’s all you needed to say.

Yet what does that do for you? What does what Biden did or didn't do have to do with your naysaying zbout third parties (and you supposedly educating me)?