Recordings within 8 feet of police illegal in Arizona under bill signed into law by Ducey

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People will no longer be allowed to take close-range recordings of Arizona police under a new bill signed into law by Gov. Doug Ducey on Wednesday.

House Bill 2319, sponsored by Rep. John Kavanagh, makes it illegal for anyone within 8 feet of law enforcement activity to record police. Violators could face a misdemeanor, but only after being verbally warned and continuing to record anyway.

Exceptions were made for people at the center of an interaction with police, anyone standing in an enclosed structure on private property where police activity was occurring and occupants of a vehicle stopped by police as long as recording in those instances didn't interfere with police actions.

It goes into effect on Sept. 24.

Kavanagh wrote in an op-ed said HB 2319 was meant to protect officers from potential harm or distraction outside of the incident they were already involved in. He initially introduced the bill with a 15-foot restriction that was later amended down to address concerns it would be unconstitutional.

But many people, including First Amendment experts, continued to oppose the bill, stating it was unconstitutional at its core, lacked specificity and granted police too much discretion. Various news organizations, including Gannett, the company that owns The Arizona Republic, also signed letters from the National Press Photographers Association opposing the bill.

Bystander videos of police have become increasingly common and, at times, expose police misconduct. It was instrumental in the case against former Minneapolis police Officer Derek Chauvin, who was filmed killing George Floyd and ultimately convicted for his murder.

 
People will no longer be allowed to take close-range recordings of Arizona police under a new bill signed into law by Gov. Doug Ducey on Wednesday.

House Bill 2319, sponsored by Rep. John Kavanagh, makes it illegal for anyone within 8 feet of law enforcement activity to record police. Violators could face a misdemeanor, but only after being verbally warned and continuing to record anyway.

Exceptions were made for people at the center of an interaction with police, anyone standing in an enclosed structure on private property where police activity was occurring and occupants of a vehicle stopped by police as long as recording in those instances didn't interfere with police actions.

It goes into effect on Sept. 24.

Kavanagh wrote in an op-ed said HB 2319 was meant to protect officers from potential harm or distraction outside of the incident they were already involved in. He initially introduced the bill with a 15-foot restriction that was later amended down to address concerns it would be unconstitutional.

But many people, including First Amendment experts, continued to oppose the bill, stating it was unconstitutional at its core, lacked specificity and granted police too much discretion. Various news organizations, including Gannett, the company that owns The Arizona Republic, also signed letters from the National Press Photographers Association opposing the bill.

Bystander videos of police have become increasingly common and, at times, expose police misconduct. It was instrumental in the case against former Minneapolis police Officer Derek Chauvin, who was filmed killing George Floyd and ultimately convicted for his murder.


 
Sounds fair to me. You're close enough to get a decent recording and far enough that the cops don't feel like you might intervene.
Until they walk up on you and say "NOW you're against the law."

And they arrest you.

See, this is why people like you who use common sense need to realize the realities of created laws like this.

And since you're filming you might get off, but you're going to have to pay a lawyer, you're going to have to pay your bond or bail. They may have some trumped-up charges on there like resisting arrest.

They can fuck up your life six ways from Sunday if you don't have the money to pay to unfuck your life on something that they initiated when they walked up to you creating your violation of the law

That's why laws like this are stupid and unjust. That's why they, the system, protects the police.
 
Until they walk up on you and say "NOW you're against the law." And they arrest you.
This is exactly what will happen. When one or more cops are doing dirt, others will advance toward the person recording or set up a perimeter that will force you to back off even further. They'll cause you to loose focus or completely miss the important bit you need to convict them.
 
why is this a story ?

it doesn't include the person being "interacted" with.

and why would you be within 8 feet anyway ?

this click bait
 
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Police in Arizona pulling up with the chains
 
why is this a story ?

it doesn't include the person being "interacted" with.

and why would you be within 8 feet anyway ?

this click bait
How many feet do you think Darnella Frazier was when she took that vid? The author of this bill originally wanted 15. I posted it because it's the first of its kind to discuss.

Besides, I just didn't post a vid. I posted a story with the link to the bill, the author's reasoning, and when it will go into effect.
 
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How many feet do you think Darnella Frazier was when she took that vid? The author of this bill originally wanted 15. I posted it because it's the first of its kind to discuss.

Besides, I just didn't post a vid. I posted a story with the link to the bill, the author's reasoning, and when it will go into effect.


well beyond 8 feet.

and the one video was from across the street.
 
y'all must have some 1995 Nextel flip phone camera...

within 8 feet it would be hard to get whole people in the shot.
 
Until they walk up on you and say "NOW you're against the law."

And they arrest you.

See, this is why people like you who use common sense need to realize the realities of created laws like this.

And since you're filming you might get off, but you're going to have to pay a lawyer, you're going to have to pay your bond or bail. They may have some trumped-up charges on there like resisting arrest.

They can fuck up your life six ways from Sunday if you don't have the money to pay to unfuck your life on something that they initiated when they walked up to you creating your violation of the law

That's why laws like this are stupid and unjust. That's why they, the system, protects the police.


Also may not catch all of the conversation.
 
Sounds fair to me. You're close enough to get a decent recording and far enough that the cops don't feel like you might intervene.
Where the law fucks up is giving you an exact amount. Usually laws/language (especially dealing with cops) are ambiguous. Now if they fuck with you beyond that measurement you now have a case against the cops violating your civil rights. Now the devil is in the details of the law.
 
y'all must have some 1995 Nextel flip phone camera...

within 8 feet it would be hard to get whole people in the shot.

That's not the problem though.

There has never been a police misconduct trial where an officer claimed not to be there. Even if they were facing murder charges. Arrest reports can be doctored or buried, but the officer's names are always documented.

No. The bigger problem is that you could record the police committing a blatant crime only to have the evidence shot down because an expert argued you were only 7 1/2' away when you recorded it. Either that, or claim that your phone wasn't powerful enough to accurately capture what happened from 8 ft away.
 
you have a problem with recording the police?

No what I just said was recording from 8ft shouldn't hinder the public from still getting good footage. Now if they said something arbitrary like 50ft then that would be something to get up in arms about.
 
Sounds fair to me. You're close enough to get a decent recording and far enough that the cops don't feel like you might intervene.

We're talking about the same cops who routinely kill unarmed suspects because they 'feel' like their life might be in danger.

What's the police definition of 8 feet. This definitely wont be abused :hmm:

It means that anyone who films the police has to hit record before they engage the zoom. That way they can prove their distance through public landmarks and city fixtures. Especially if you film the sidewalk and show how many squares there are between you and the officer.
 
BS laws like this are why some communities have a network of citizens discreetly recording them sniper-style then release the footage to the world.
 
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