BREAKING: INVASION HAS BEGUN..... Putin's "3-day war"... NOW... 1 YEAR 338 DAYS ...WAGNER HEAD SAYS GROUP STANDING DOWN AFTER CLAIMS OF DEAL
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Russia calls Bucha massacre Ukraine's crackdown on civilians 'with no blue bands'
Russia is refuting what it calls the "staged" killings in Bucha and "provocation" to slander the Russian Armed Forces. Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation has claimed that the city's mayor had not reported any atrocities after the Russian forces had withdrawn from the northwestern town on March 30 and that the allegations first appeared only on the fourth day. "Bodies shown seem surprisingly 'fresh', couldn't lying for four days," said MoD Russia.
Russian forces also claimed that the initial footage that was shared on the social media by the Ukrainian forces driving into the besieged town did not demonstrate a single body on the road and that they later appeared nearly four days after the troop withdrawal. Russia also points out that the civilian dead bodies mostly have a white band tied to their hands, which according to Russian MoD demonstrates pro-Russian sentiments. Russian Army claims that the citizens "without blue band" were shot down by the "neo Nazi" groups.
Russia also justified what it described as its special military operation citing the national security threat. "In the early 1990s, we were promised NO eastward expansion. Yet, by 2022, five waves of enlargement, 14 new member states, bases, and military infrastructure were placed right on Russia's borders."
Russia calls Bucha massacre Ukraine's crackdown on civilians 'with no blue bands'
Russia is refuting what it calls the "staged" killings in Bucha and "provocation" to slander the Russian Armed Forces. Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation has claimed that the city's mayor had not reported any atrocities after the Russian forces had withdrawn from the northwestern town on March 30 and that the allegations first appeared only on the fourth day. "Bodies shown seem surprisingly 'fresh', couldn't lying for four days," said MoD Russia.
Russian forces also claimed that the initial footage that was shared on the social media by the Ukrainian forces driving into the besieged town did not demonstrate a single body on the road and that they later appeared nearly four days after the troop withdrawal. Russia also points out that the civilian dead bodies mostly have a white band tied to their hands, which according to Russian MoD demonstrates pro-Russian sentiments. Russian Army claims that the citizens "without blue band" were shot down by the "neo Nazi" groups.
Russia also justified what it described as its special military operation citing the national security threat. "In the early 1990s, we were promised NO eastward expansion. Yet, by 2022, five waves of enlargement, 14 new member states, bases, and military infrastructure were placed right on Russia's borders."
shit more Ukrainians about to die
So, as predicted, "5,000" cars turned out to be 900 people who have the critical thinking skills you would expect. 
There is even a "do your own research" in the clip. I will never understand what is appealing about this buffoonery to some of Us. Literally Russian speaking ignorant red state cacs.
There is even a "do your own research" in the clip. I will never understand what is appealing about this buffoonery to some of Us. Literally Russian speaking ignorant red state cacs.
OK, we'll just let an obviously less capable military hold their own against another that represents the single most significant US antagonist in several generations, knowing their are nazis and super rich assholes on both sides.
I disagree with you that RU is seriously trying to limit civilian casualties, because they've flattened gargantuan numbers of strictly residential and civil, non-military structures. Could they bomb more, sure as long as they don't run out of bombs. Many were reported to have been inhabited by civilians at the time and incurred numerous fatalities. Then there are the reports of mass graves containing people blindfolded with their hands secured behind their backs. Additionally the videos of the same type bodies just laying in the streets of the previously RU controlled sections of greater Kyiv. But I guess you don't believe any of that. I have my doubts that all of it is true, however I have just a bit more faith in the reporting of western journalist that compete with one another to validate claims vs undisputed reporting of a state news apparatus.
AGAIN: Do you believe their official contention that this is merely a SPECIAL MILITARY OPERATION on the part of the Russian Federation, and not a FULL ON WAR ?
So, as predicted, "5,000" cars turned out to be 900 people who have the critical thinking skills you would expect.
Man that’s 5k strong in a fantasy world
For every Russian tank in Ukraine, there are or will soon be more than ten anti-tank systems,' US
"For every Russian tank in Ukraine, there are or will soon be more than ten anti-tank systems," US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said promising more aid to the war-hit country. Last week, US State Department announced additional funding to help Ukrainians get a steady flow of personal protection equipment, field gear, tactical equipment, medical supplies, armoured vehicles, and communication equipment.
"For every Russian tank in Ukraine, there are or will soon be more than ten anti-tank systems," US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said promising more aid to the war-hit country. Last week, US State Department announced additional funding to help Ukrainians get a steady flow of personal protection equipment, field gear, tactical equipment, medical supplies, armoured vehicles, and communication equipment.
"their are nazis and super rich assholes on both sides."
Our tax dollars are training and arming one sides Nazi's. It is now official US policy to train and arm White terrorists whose sole mission is to kill and destroy all Black people. It's crazy that BLACK people on this board support this.
These are NOT regular racists. They are NOT fighting for Ukraine. They are in Ukraine fighting to start a White revolution throughout Europe. They want to overthrow every government in Europe and install a White Hitler style Nazi govt. They hate Vladimir Putin because they think he's liberal. They Hate Zelensky too.
They are the White equivalent of Al Quaia, and we are arming and traing them. And Black people here are supporting this and cheering these White terrorists on.
Do you know how Al Quadia started. There was a war in Afghanistan (with Russia). The US didn't want to see Russia win, so they trained and armed a radical group of ideological crazies who had dreams to taking over the entire world and forcing their crazy beliefs on everyone.
A decade later the worst terrorist attack on US soil.
"Could they bomb more, sure as long as they don't run out of bombs."
So they haven't touched the infrostcture of the two biggest cities because they're afraid of running out of bombs? You can't be serious. It's obvious Russia is trying to keep down the casualties. That's not to say that they didn't kill or executer innocent people. This is war, and Rissuans are animals so I'm sure they did it.
Is it a "war" or "special operation"
Looks like a war to me.
Murderers covering their tracks: Russian mobile crematoriums start working in Mariupol
06.04.2022 14:28
Russian mobile crematoriums have started working in Mariupol to destroy any evidence of Russian army's crimes in the city.
"Murderers covering their tracks. Russian mobile crematoriums have started working in Mariupol. After the wide international coverage of the genocide in Bucha, the top leadership of the Russian Federation ordered to eliminate any evidence of crimes of its army in Mariupol," the Mariupol City Council posted on Telegram.
As noted, a week ago, cautious estimates indicated the deaths of 5,000 civilians in Mariupol. But given the size of the city, catastrophic destruction, the duration of the blockade, and fierce resistance, tens of thousands Mariupol civilians could fall victim to the occupiers.
"That is why Russia is in no hurry to give the green light to the Turkish mission and other initiatives to save and fully evacuate Mariupol. In addition, they [Russians] are trying to identify all potential witnesses of the occupiers' atrocities through filtration camps and eliminate them,” the City Council stressed.
It is noted that the Russians assigned all the dirty work to collaborators. Eyewitnesses report that the Russcists involved locals and "Donetsk People’s Republic" terrorists in special cleansing brigades. The collaborators collect and burn the bodies of Mariupol residents tortured and killed as a result of the Russian invasion.
These groups are coordinated directly by self-proclaimed mayor-collaborator Kostiantyn Ivashchenko. "For many years, he and his associates repeatedly tried to seize power, but in the end, he managed to become just the director of the Mariupol crematorium," the City Council explained.
Mariupol Mayor Vadym Boychenko stressed that the world had not seen the scale of the tragedy in Mariupol since the existence of Nazi concentration camps.
"The Russcists have turned our entire city into a death camp. Unfortunately, the eerie analogy receives increasing confirmation. This is no longer Chechnya or Aleppo. This is the new Auschwitz and Majdanek. The world must help punish Putin's villains," the mayor underscored.
As reported, Mariupol, Donetsk region, has been experiencing one of the biggest humanitarian catastrophes due to Russian aggression. The invaders bomb unarmed residents and block the delivery of humanitarian aid. According to Mariupol Mayor Vadym Boychenko, as of March 27, the number of civilian casualties in Mariupol was about 5,000 people, including about 210 children.
There are now about 130,000 civilians in Mariupol, blocked by Russian invaders, begging for help.
Russian troops have turned Mariupol into a huge ruin. Local residents faint from hunger in the streets, and enemy bombs bury them alive in bomb shelters.
Fighters of the Azov Regiment stay in Mariupol and continue to defend the city.
06.04.2022 14:28
Russian mobile crematoriums have started working in Mariupol to destroy any evidence of Russian army's crimes in the city.
"Murderers covering their tracks. Russian mobile crematoriums have started working in Mariupol. After the wide international coverage of the genocide in Bucha, the top leadership of the Russian Federation ordered to eliminate any evidence of crimes of its army in Mariupol," the Mariupol City Council posted on Telegram.
As noted, a week ago, cautious estimates indicated the deaths of 5,000 civilians in Mariupol. But given the size of the city, catastrophic destruction, the duration of the blockade, and fierce resistance, tens of thousands Mariupol civilians could fall victim to the occupiers.
"That is why Russia is in no hurry to give the green light to the Turkish mission and other initiatives to save and fully evacuate Mariupol. In addition, they [Russians] are trying to identify all potential witnesses of the occupiers' atrocities through filtration camps and eliminate them,” the City Council stressed.
It is noted that the Russians assigned all the dirty work to collaborators. Eyewitnesses report that the Russcists involved locals and "Donetsk People’s Republic" terrorists in special cleansing brigades. The collaborators collect and burn the bodies of Mariupol residents tortured and killed as a result of the Russian invasion.
These groups are coordinated directly by self-proclaimed mayor-collaborator Kostiantyn Ivashchenko. "For many years, he and his associates repeatedly tried to seize power, but in the end, he managed to become just the director of the Mariupol crematorium," the City Council explained.
Mariupol Mayor Vadym Boychenko stressed that the world had not seen the scale of the tragedy in Mariupol since the existence of Nazi concentration camps.
"The Russcists have turned our entire city into a death camp. Unfortunately, the eerie analogy receives increasing confirmation. This is no longer Chechnya or Aleppo. This is the new Auschwitz and Majdanek. The world must help punish Putin's villains," the mayor underscored.
As reported, Mariupol, Donetsk region, has been experiencing one of the biggest humanitarian catastrophes due to Russian aggression. The invaders bomb unarmed residents and block the delivery of humanitarian aid. According to Mariupol Mayor Vadym Boychenko, as of March 27, the number of civilian casualties in Mariupol was about 5,000 people, including about 210 children.
There are now about 130,000 civilians in Mariupol, blocked by Russian invaders, begging for help.
Russian troops have turned Mariupol into a huge ruin. Local residents faint from hunger in the streets, and enemy bombs bury them alive in bomb shelters.
Fighters of the Azov Regiment stay in Mariupol and continue to defend the city.
PLEASE NAME THEM.
What I effectively said is, 'they could bomb more, as long as they don't run out of bombs'. So the remainder of Kyiv's infrastructure is still at risk of being destroyed as it has been in Mariupol. Speaking of Mariupol, have you seen any recent images of it? Do you believe they are trying to spare civilians there as well? Or, are all those apartment buildings legit military targets?
Glad we can agree on this, but RU officials still deny it.
My point is that all racists are not the same.
PLEASE NAME THEM.
What I effectively said is, 'they could bomb more, as long as they don't run out of bombs'. So the remainder of Kyiv's infrastructure is still at risk of being destroyed as it has been in Mariupol. Speaking of Mariupol, have you seen any recent images of it? Do you believe they are trying to spare civilians there as well? Or, are all those apartment buildings legit military targets?
Glad we can agree on this, but RU officials still deny it.
They are not White people that hate Blacks, or would discriminate against them, these are soldiers with an ideological agenda. They are not Ukrainian or Russian, they fly under the Nazi banner. Their goal is to take over every white country, and then form the 4th reich and kill or enslave every Black person.
These people are armed, not just with guns, but now with tanks and missles.
And we (including Black peoples tax dollars) are funding and training these animals.
If you don’t see the difference between them and the right wingers in Eastern Europe, I don’t know what to tell you.
We never learn from history.
do you have any links about these nazi's
so i can see what you are talking about
Yes. These are the people that our army is providing missiles and tanks to. It's the craziest thing I've ever heard of.
thanks babygwirl
that's a good read,i see where you are coming from about arming them
hopefully they kill enough of each other to not threaten anyone else
we'll see how this plays out
You aren't going to get answers because all of this is stream of consciousness bullshit with a contrarian twist.
Russia has been using nazis as mercenaries in lots of places including Libya, CAR, Syria and Donbas. While Wagner group is higher profile, RIM is also another neo-nazi organization that made its name training Russian nazis and fighting with them against the Ukrainians in Donbas. This is a good start for understanding RIM and how they are used by the Russians:
The year 2014 served as a turning point for RIM. Russia annexed Crimea, and conflict erupted in eastern Ukraine between government forces and pro-Russian separatists. These developments jolted inter-group relations in the Russian far right and led RIM to turn its focus beyond Russian domestic politics.
RIM activated its resources in support of the Russian side in the Ukraine conflict from the beginning. Vorobyev has stated that the greatest threat to the Russian nation is “the stability of anti-Russian regimes on all the territory inhabited by the Russian ethnos.”[28] In its intervention in Ukraine, RIM saw an opportunity to destabilize the Kiev government and further its objective of protecting ethnic Russians.[29]
RIM leader Vorobyev and three other RIM members traveled to Crimea on a plane carrying members of Russia’s military on February 28, 2014 – the day after Russia annexed the peninsula.[30] In mid-March, RIM leaders – including Nikolay Nikolayevich Trushchalov, the group’s focal point for external relations – met with extreme-right, pro-Russian separatists in the Ukrainian city of Donetsk.[31] Around the same time, RIM joined a handful of right-wing Russian political parties, including Rodina, to hold a Moscow demonstration in support of ethnic Russians living in Ukraine.[32] The developments of early 2014 breathed new life into RIM’s Moscow branch, which was previously dormant.[33]
By mid-June, RIM had begun training Russians to join pro-Russian separatists in the conflict.[34] RIM provided two weeks of instruction in combat skills before sending groups of five to six fighters from St. Petersburg to the Rostov region of Russia, then across the border into Ukraine and through a “humanitarian corridor” to the Donetsk and Luhansk regions.[35] RIM began training recruits at its Reserve Club. In June 2014, the group formed the Imperial Legion Military-Patriotic Club, which served as a second club intended specifically for foreign fighters.[36] These two facilities, both located in the St. Petersburg area, host RIM’s paramilitary training courses.
RIM is well known for its paramilitary training program known as “Partizan,” often referred to by the anglicized form “Partisan.” “Partizan” is the Russian word for “Guerilla.” The Partizan program as it currently exists began in 2014 with the goal of training Russians for the Ukrainian conflict.[37] Denis Valiullovich Gariyev, the head of RIM’s Imperial Legion, began training Russian foreign fighters to join pro-Russian separatist groups in combat against Ukrainian government forces.[38] Gariyev claims that RIM has trained over 300 volunteers for combat in Ukraine.[39] A researcher with the Counter Extremism Project describes RIM’s program as a “conveyor belt” for foreign fighters into the conflict theatre, adding that its combat experience gives the group “street cred” with other white supremacists.[40]
RIM militants operated under the command of two separatist forces in Ukraine – the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) and Luhansk People’s Republic (LPR). Both the DPR and LPR are breakaway separatist factions in eastern Ukraine said by NATO and Kiev to be backed by Russia. RIM militants first fought under DPR commander Igor Strelkov until his departure from the theater in October 2014. RIM members then moved to fight for LPR leader Alexey Mozgovoi.[41]RIM fighters later returned to fight with DPR forces before RIM’s departure from Ukraine.[42]
The Imperial Legion withdrew from Ukraine in January 2016, though some individuals opted to stay and continue fighting.[43] In a 2017 interview with The Washington Post, Garyiev stated that RIM had left because governmental and oligarchic interests in Russia, Ukraine, and the West had supposedly co-opted the conflict.[44] Nevertheless, the Partizan training program continued. Participation in Partizan had increased threefold by 2017, according to Gariyev.[45] Following the Imperial Legion’s departure from Ukraine, RIM launched initiatives for its veterans, including a museum and an organization (Veterans of Novorossiya), and began supporting a store that employs injured veterans of the Ukraine conflict.[46]
Russian Imperial Movement | Mapping Militants Project
cisac.fsi.stanford.edu
I will wait for one of our resident idiots to try to discredit Stanford's Center for International Security and Cooperation (CISAC) that tracks this stuff globally.
This is the flag for the united DPR and LPR (Novorossiya).
Its resemblance to another flag is just a coincidence, right?
Wow.... just fucking wow... don't think that it's been uploaded anywhere yet, but CNN just showed a video. Looked like infrared drone video, of those Russian fucks using tank fire to kill some poor unlucky Ukranian soul on a fucking bicycle....like using a flamethrower to BBQ a steak.... it was geo located to match and confirm it... they had a pic of him lying on the ground with his bicycle a few feet away
You aren't going to get answers because all of this is stream of consciousness bullshit with a contrarian twist.
Russia has been using nazis as mercenaries in lots of places including Libya, CAR, Syria and Donbas. While Wagner group is higher profile, RIM is also another neo-nazi organization that made its name training Russian nazis and fighting with them against the Ukrainians in Donbas. This is a good start for understanding RIM and how they are used by the Russians:
The year 2014 served as a turning point for RIM. Russia annexed Crimea, and conflict erupted in eastern Ukraine between government forces and pro-Russian separatists. These developments jolted inter-group relations in the Russian far right and led RIM to turn its focus beyond Russian domestic politics.
RIM activated its resources in support of the Russian side in the Ukraine conflict from the beginning. Vorobyev has stated that the greatest threat to the Russian nation is “the stability of anti-Russian regimes on all the territory inhabited by the Russian ethnos.”[28] In its intervention in Ukraine, RIM saw an opportunity to destabilize the Kiev government and further its objective of protecting ethnic Russians.[29]
RIM leader Vorobyev and three other RIM members traveled to Crimea on a plane carrying members of Russia’s military on February 28, 2014 – the day after Russia annexed the peninsula.[30] In mid-March, RIM leaders – including Nikolay Nikolayevich Trushchalov, the group’s focal point for external relations – met with extreme-right, pro-Russian separatists in the Ukrainian city of Donetsk.[31] Around the same time, RIM joined a handful of right-wing Russian political parties, including Rodina, to hold a Moscow demonstration in support of ethnic Russians living in Ukraine.[32] The developments of early 2014 breathed new life into RIM’s Moscow branch, which was previously dormant.[33]
By mid-June, RIM had begun training Russians to join pro-Russian separatists in the conflict.[34] RIM provided two weeks of instruction in combat skills before sending groups of five to six fighters from St. Petersburg to the Rostov region of Russia, then across the border into Ukraine and through a “humanitarian corridor” to the Donetsk and Luhansk regions.[35] RIM began training recruits at its Reserve Club. In June 2014, the group formed the Imperial Legion Military-Patriotic Club, which served as a second club intended specifically for foreign fighters.[36] These two facilities, both located in the St. Petersburg area, host RIM’s paramilitary training courses.
RIM is well known for its paramilitary training program known as “Partizan,” often referred to by the anglicized form “Partisan.” “Partizan” is the Russian word for “Guerilla.” The Partizan program as it currently exists began in 2014 with the goal of training Russians for the Ukrainian conflict.[37] Denis Valiullovich Gariyev, the head of RIM’s Imperial Legion, began training Russian foreign fighters to join pro-Russian separatist groups in combat against Ukrainian government forces.[38] Gariyev claims that RIM has trained over 300 volunteers for combat in Ukraine.[39] A researcher with the Counter Extremism Project describes RIM’s program as a “conveyor belt” for foreign fighters into the conflict theatre, adding that its combat experience gives the group “street cred” with other white supremacists.[40]
RIM militants operated under the command of two separatist forces in Ukraine – the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) and Luhansk People’s Republic (LPR). Both the DPR and LPR are breakaway separatist factions in eastern Ukraine said by NATO and Kiev to be backed by Russia. RIM militants first fought under DPR commander Igor Strelkov until his departure from the theater in October 2014. RIM members then moved to fight for LPR leader Alexey Mozgovoi.[41]RIM fighters later returned to fight with DPR forces before RIM’s departure from Ukraine.[42]
The Imperial Legion withdrew from Ukraine in January 2016, though some individuals opted to stay and continue fighting.[43] In a 2017 interview with The Washington Post, Garyiev stated that RIM had left because governmental and oligarchic interests in Russia, Ukraine, and the West had supposedly co-opted the conflict.[44] Nevertheless, the Partizan training program continued. Participation in Partizan had increased threefold by 2017, according to Gariyev.[45] Following the Imperial Legion’s departure from Ukraine, RIM launched initiatives for its veterans, including a museum and an organization (Veterans of Novorossiya), and began supporting a store that employs injured veterans of the Ukraine conflict.[46]
Russian Imperial Movement | Mapping Militants Project
I will wait for one of our resident idiots to try to discredit Stanford's Center for International Security and Cooperation (CISAC) that tracks this stuff globally.
This is the flag for the united DPR and LPR (Novorossiya).
Its resemblance to another flag is just a coincidence, right?
this ties into the link she posed in response to my request
Wow.... just fucking wow... don't think that it's been uploaded anywhere yet, but CNN just showed a video. Looked like infrared drone video, of those Russian fucks using tank fire to kill some poor unlucky Ukranian soul on a fucking bicycle....like using a flamethrower to BBQ a steak.... it was geo located to match and confirm it... they had a pic of him lying on the ground with his bicycle a few feet away
Video
The sheer brutality of it... and they proved that they weren't shooting at the building with satellite photos which showed it destroyed earlier.... they shot him with tank shells.... I used to do shit like that in Call of Duty.... be getting head shots with predator missiles too... but that was a fucking video game.... they will burn in hell for all of eternity.....
One of the craziest parts of all of this that you have to remember is that Azov started off as ultras from a soccer club (sect 82 Metalist Kharkiv). Ultras are the cacs you see at soccer matches with the flares, flags, banners etc. that usually sit on the ends of the stadiums. They had alliances like most other ultra groups do and were closely allied with Spartak Moscow while hating another big club in Ukraine based in Kyiv called Dynamo Kyiv. That part of Ukraine has lots of ethnic russians which explains the alliance with a Moscow club.
When Russia first started the annexation bullshit, the Metalist ultras started a self defense force. The Ukrainian armed forces at that time were not nearly as competent as they are today so they were eventually incorporated into the National Guard as they actually were effective at fighting the Russians. They became good at fighting because of the russian annexation and were backed/trained by the US as well as the Ukrainians.
This is where the bullshit starts. Ukraine has something like 450K+ active and reserve forces. Azov is 900 people of which 10-120% are estimated to be neo-nazis or sympathetic. So, Russia has invaded Ukraine with the full force of its military to "denazify" a few hundred soccer ultras almost exclusively based in Mariupol?
Even more ridiculous, there was pretty much unanimous agreement to not back/train Azov because of the nazi sympathies of some of its members but that changed as they were the only real check on the Russian presence in the annexed region. Russian invading to "denazify" is as credible as Mexico invading the US to denazify it because of the high number of white nationalists in our own armed forces. It is even more ridiculous when you consider that Russia is using Nazis (Wagner group, RMI etc.) to hunt down the real nazis. To get a feel for how utterly ridiculous this is, this is Trump's ("you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides."
) secretary of state (Pompeo) on RIM:RIM and its leaders Stanislav Anatolyevich Vorobyev, Denis Valiullovich Gariyev, and Nikolay Nikolayevich Trushchalov are designated pursuant to Executive Order 13224, as amended by Executive Order 13886, for providing training for acts of terrorism that threaten the national security and foreign policy of the United States and being leaders of such a group.
Designations seek to deny these terrorists the resources they need to provide training to commit attacks. Among other consequences, all of their property and interests that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or hereafter come within the possession or control of U.S. persons, have been blocked, and U.S. persons are generally prohibited from engaging in any transactions with them.
RIM has provided paramilitary-style training to white supremacists and neo-Nazis in Europe and actively works to rally these types of groups into a common front against their perceived enemies. RIM has two training facilities in St. Petersburg, which are likely being used for woodland and urban assault, tactical weapons, and hand-to-hand combat training. RIM is led by Vorobyev, its founder and overall leader. Gariyev is the head of RIM’s paramilitary arm, the Imperial Legion. Trushchalov is RIM’s Coordinator for External Relations.
United States Designates Russian Imperial Movement and Leaders as Global Terrorists - United States Department of State
The State Department has designated the Russian Imperial Movement (RIM) and members of its leadership as Specially Designated Global Terrorists, the first time in history the Department has designated a white supremacist terrorist group. As President Trump has said, “In one voice, our nation...
2017-2021.state.gov
As for Wagner group, this is their leader, Dmitry Utkin, with Putin. Notice the SS bolt tattoos.
You are going to continue to see insane conspiratorial bullshit on this just like with covid because it all flows from the same source (russia).
Notice we have gone from denazification, to finding the real covid biolabs to finally looking for Hunter Biden and Nazi controlled biolabs.
If you want to know what will be discussed shortly, google "Russian filtration camps". They used them in Chechnya and they are using them now. They are essentially internment camps.
It will probably blow up in the next few days as more reporters fully grasp what they are doing.
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No Nazis in Russia Tho
www.yahoo.com
A soldier wearing Nazi imagery was given a medal by a Russia-backed separatist republic for killing Ukrainian 'nationalists'
The fighter's wore the "Valknot" and "Totenkopf," the first of which is tied to white supremacists and the second to Nazi Germany's SS divisions.
One after another the usual suspect trolls marched into this thread to rant about azov nazis, then try to convince us that its a good thing RU is wiping them out along with everything else in that country, so the US and Nato should just let RU eviscerate ukraine for not wanting them to install a kremlin puppet.
It is amazing isn't it? I am outraged by what is going on in Ukraine just as I am outraged by what is going on in Ethiopia, Syria, Yemen, etc. Plenty of legitimate critiques you can make about our involvement or lack thereof in all situations but instead the idiots prefer to be putin apologists.
The craziest part is watching the putin apologists scream about Syria as if Putin didn't destroy Aleppo in the same way he is currently destroying Ukrainian cities. It is impossible to be concerned about Syria and simultaneously run interference for one of the men primarily responsible for the destruction and suffering there. It makes no actual sense so of course it is the tactic they take.
They having fun with this shit… plain and simpleThe sheer brutality of it... and they proved that they weren't shooting at the building with satellite photos which showed it destroyed earlier.... they shot him with tank shells.... I used to do shit like that in Call of Duty.... be getting head shots with predator missiles too... but that was a fucking video game.... they will burn in hell for all of eternity.....
You wrote all this to try and minimize the impact of the Nazis in Ukraine. They are the most dangerous Nazis in the world today. Before the war, the Above battalion was more than 2,000 strong and filled with battle tested fighters. Since the war, they've been recruiting all over Ukraine, including openly in Kiev. Their numbers could be 10 fold - no one knows.One of the craziest parts of all of this that you have to remember is that Azov started off as ultras from a soccer club (sect 82 Metalist Kharkiv). Ultras are the cacs you see at soccer matches with the flares, flags, banners etc. that usually sit on the ends of the stadiums. They had alliances like most other ultra groups do and were closely allied with Spartak Moscow while hating another big club in Ukraine based in Kyiv called Dynamo Kyiv. That part of Ukraine has lots of ethnic russians which explains the alliance with a Moscow club.
When Russia first started the annexation bullshit, the Metalist ultras started a self defense force. The Ukrainian armed forces at that time were not nearly as competent as they are today so they were eventually incorporated into the National Guard as they actually were effective at fighting the Russians. They became good at fighting because of the russian annexation and were backed/trained by the US as well as the Ukrainians.
This is where the bullshit starts. Ukraine has something like 450K+ active and reserve forces. Azov is 900 people of which 10-120% are estimated to be neo-nazis or sympathetic. So, Russia has invaded Ukraine with the full force of its military to "denazify" a few hundred soccer ultras almost exclusively based in Mariupol?
Russian invading to "denazify" is as credible as Mexico invading the US to denazify it because of the high number of white nationalists in our own armed forces. It is even more ridiculous when you consider that Russia is using Nazis (Wagner group, RMI etc.) to hunt down the real nazis. To get a feel for how utterly ridiculous this is, this is Trump's ("you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides."
RIM and its leaders Stanislav Anatolyevich Vorobyev, Denis Valiullovich Gariyev, and Nikolay Nikolayevich Trushchalov are designated pursuant to Executive Order 13224, as amended by Executive Order 13886, for providing training for acts of terrorism that threaten the national security and foreign policy of the United States and being leaders of such a group.
Designations seek to deny these terrorists the resources they need to provide training to commit attacks. Among other consequences, all of their property and interests that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or hereafter come within the possession or control of U.S. persons, have been blocked, and U.S. persons are generally prohibited from engaging in any transactions with them.
RIM has provided paramilitary-style training to white supremacists and neo-Nazis in Europe and actively works to rally these types of groups into a common front against their perceived enemies. RIM has two training facilities in St. Petersburg, which are likely being used for woodland and urban assault, tactical weapons, and hand-to-hand combat training. RIM is led by Vorobyev, its founder and overall leader. Gariyev is the head of RIM’s paramilitary arm, the Imperial Legion. Trushchalov is RIM’s Coordinator for External Relations.
United States Designates Russian Imperial Movement and Leaders as Global Terrorists - United States Department of State
The State Department has designated the Russian Imperial Movement (RIM) and members of its leadership as Specially Designated Global Terrorists, the first time in history the Department has designated a white supremacist terrorist group. As President Trump has said, “In one voice, our nation...
As for Wagner group, this is their leader, Dmitry Utkin, with Putin. Notice the SS bolt tattoos.
You are going to continue to see insane conspiratorial bullshit on this just like with covid because it all flows from the same source (russia).
Notice we have gone from denazification, to finding the real covid biolabs to finally looking for Hunter Biden and Nazi controlled biolabs.
If you want to know what will be discussed shortly, google "Russian filtration camps". They used them in Chechnya and they are using them now. They are essentially internment camps.
Imagine an army 20,000 strong with missiles, guns, and tanks and a sole agenda of taking over the world for the white race. The world has never seen anything like this since World War 2. And its being funded and promoted by Us.
I guess your point was that the Russians have Nazis too. Yeah, I bet they do. I don't want the US to fund and arm Russia's Nazi's either.
To sum up the difference between me and you - you think it makes SENSE for the US to give missiles to people whose sole purpose in life is to murder you and your entire family. I think that's a bad idea.
But continue talking up Ukraine, and supporting the president as he gives weapons to Nazis while he refuses to even consider reparations for us. Carry on.
A soldier wearing Nazi imagery was given a medal by a Russia-backed separatist republic for killing Ukrainian 'nationalists'
The fighter's wore the "Valknot" and "Totenkopf," the first of which is tied to white supremacists and the second to Nazi Germany's SS divisions.
I agree with you. Its crystal clear they couldn't give a damn about nazis. They only want us to join the maga hat criticism of our government's current leadership for taking sides against its most renowned antagonist of the last few generations. If there weren't a dem in the white house right now, they'd be all for the side Biden is supporting. Thant is unless their standard bearer, tRump was in office, because he'd have done a deal to trade ukraine for greenland immediately.
It is amazing isn't it? I am outraged by what is going on in Ukraine just as I am outraged by what is going on in Ethiopia, Syria, Yemen, etc. Plenty of legitimate critiques you can make about our involvement or lack thereof in all situations but instead the idiots prefer to be putin apologists.
It’s actually you who don’t care about Nazis.I agree with you. Its crystal clear they couldn't give a damn about nazis. They only want us to join the maga hat criticism of our government's current leadership for taking sides against its most renowned antagonist of the last few generations. If there weren't a dem in the white house right now, they'd be all for the side Biden is supporting. Thant is unless their standard bearer, tRump was in office, because he'd have done a deal to trade ukraine for greenland immediately.
Some of us here think that it’s a bad idea to arm and train Nazis during a war that will at best leave Ukraine as a failed state sort of like Afghanistan or Syria where Nazi warlords control large swaths of land.
We’ve gone down this path with Afghanistan, then Iraq, then Syria.
Typically it is democrats and liberals pointing this out. They are the ones saying that the government and contractors are lying to try and drag us into a war. They are the ones challenging the narrative that “we have to be involved.”
But we live in a time where debate is no longer allowed. Anyone who says something different is a “Trumper” or a “Putin apologist” for saying you should not trust the government narrative.
Notice how no one here challenges my central points, they just resort to name calling, or saying “Russia has Nazis too”
I have no problem saying the US shouldn't arm nazis, but they should start with eliminating them from their own ranks.
Then why do you believe the narrative of the RU government controlled media, about not harming civilians?
What are your central points, NAZIS WITH WEAPONS, BAD?
Also, you neglected to respond to these.
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