Official 2025 NFL Discussion preseason edition!!!

AB putting up a strong fight... I like it... BA might have fucked up with this one
Bruce looks like a fuckin fool for bringing him back in the 1st place.

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i'm mad that it won't be RedWolves..apparently
due to the Minnesota Timberwolves, washington is trying to avoid any legal battles.
oh well
 
:roflmao:You're saying this to a diehard JETS fan... I'd love to have 3 straight seasons without a losing record, let alone 15...
A jets fan wtf..you do know by sports rules if you are a fan of the jets or Knicks you get a pass if you jump ship and go root for another team..it will not go against your record as a man.. you literally can root for a diff team next yr and somebody could go I don’t remember you being a fan of that team, all you got to say you a former jet/ Knick fan and you will get a sympathy dap/ man hug and maybe even a free beer for your old sorrow.. jumpship we will allow it _ nfl
 



Garoppolo would've thrown that short pass to Kittle, for a 1 yard gain
And then hope Kittle could break like 100 tackles to get down the field
I've seen this play out like a million times already
And thats the difference between Garoppolo and Lance

If Lance continues to start, & the 49ers make it into the playoffs
Its gonna be trouble...trouble...trouble...for some NFC teams
Because the 49ers have a REAL QB now :cool:
 
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A jets fan wtf..you do know by sports rules if you are a fan of the jets or Knicks you get a pass if you jump ship and go root for another team..it will not go against your record as a man.. you literally can root for a diff team next yr and somebody could go I don’t remember you being a fan of that team, all you got to say you a former jet/ Knick fan and you will get a sympathy dap/ man hug and maybe even a free beer for your old sorrow.. jumpship we will allow it _ nfl

I'm waiting for my free beer...

Bing f*cking boing
 
A jets fan wtf..you do know by sports rules if you are a fan of the jets or Knicks you get a pass if you jump ship and go root for another team..it will not go against your record as a man.. you literally can root for a diff team next yr and somebody could go I don’t remember you being a fan of that team, all you got to say you a former jet/ Knick fan and you will get a sympathy dap/ man hug and maybe even a free beer for your old sorrow.. jumpship we will allow it _ nfl
I appreciate the extended courtesy, but I'll have to pass on this one... I've been rocking with the JETS since the Oilers were snatched from my city... I go into every season optimistic, wouldn't be true to myself if I jumped ship
 

Mike Tomlin is proof that NFL owners’ unwillingness to hire more Black coaches is a stupid and willful decision
Steelers coach becomes first in NFL history to start career with 15 straight non-losing seasons
By
Carron J. Phillips





Give Mike Tomlin the respect (and the paycheck) he deserves.Image: Getty Images

If Mike Tomlin were white, he’d be on the Mount Rushmore of NFL coaches and it wouldn’t be debatable.
For close to two decades, he’s survived in a league that’s constantly proven that they don’t want men like him around in positions of power, been to two Super Bowls, and is the youngest coach in NFL history to raise the Lombardi Trophy.
However, the thing that sets Tomlin apart from his peers is his consistency. Despite free agency, rising salary caps, and playing in a league that’s designed to create parity, the Steelers have never been a bad football team during Tomlin’s tenure. Due to Monday night’s 26-14 win over the Browns, it guaranteed that for the 15th straight year Tomlin will end the season with at least a .500 record, something no other coach in NFL history has done to start their careers.



“Not as I sit here today, and I say that humbly,” Tomlin said on Tuesday when asked about the meaning of reaching the mark. “Our agenda, this year, is to get into [the] single-elimination tournament and then pit our skills against others in that single-elimination tournament in an effort to win the world championship. That’s our mentality every year.






“And so with that mentality, it’s just certain hardware that you expect to pick up along the way. And if you don’t, you’d be seriously disappointed. That’s just an expectation that we have here in Pittsburgh.”
To make the playoffs, the Steelers need a few things to go their way, including a win over the Ravens on Sunday, along with a Jaguars victory over the Colts, and for the Chargers/Raiders game not to end in a tie. Depending on Jacksonville is what will likely keep Tomlin from his 10th postseason appearance in 15 years. But yet, despite all he’s accomplished, Tomlin is constantly disrespected, like when he was asked about the USC job last fall. Only Black people are expected to be excited about potential jobs that will turn out to be a lateral move or a demotion.

“Anybody asking Sean Payton about that, ya know? Anybody asking Andy Reid about stuff like that?” asked Tomlin.
The reason Tomlin mentioned those white Super Bowl-winning coaches is because he’s better than them, yet they don’t have to deal with trivial questions and speculations about college jobs that are beneath them like he does. In total, Tomlin is 153-85-2 for a winning percentage of .642. By comparison, Payton’s winning pct. is .629, while Reid’s is .632. And in case you were wondering, Reid has three losing seasons on his resume and Payton has four. Tomlin? None. And unlike Reid and Payton, Tomlin doesn’t get as much media attention as other coaches in the league despite having a better resume. You won’t find him in too many national commercials as a pitch man.
And then there are the unnecessary shots that Tomlin has taken over the years from people like former Steeler Terry Bradshaw, who once said that Tomlin “was not his kind of coach” and referred to him as a cheerleader.

“I think he’s not just a great Black head coach, he’s a great head coach,” Steelers defensive tackle Cameron Heyward said in 2020. “It’s one thing to be the all-time winningest Black head coach, but this dude deserves more than enough credit. To never have a losing season, to get the most out of his players. It’s not just first-rounders that wound up playing great here. He’s had fifth [round], sixth, undrafted guys who’ve done well.
“I know a lot of people like to say he inherited a great team, but think about other people who have inherited great teams. Think about the basketball teams that Phil Jackson would take over. That’s not a shot at him, but when you are able to lead a group of men and lead them the right way, that says a lot about the type of coach you are.”
When Michigan State signed Mel Tucker to a 10-year, $95 million deal in November, it made him the highest-paid Black coach in American sports – which is a gamechanger. And while Tomlin is the highest-paid Black coach in the NFL making $8 million a year, it’s laughable that anybody outside of Bill Belichick – $12.5 million – makes more than him annually, as Pete Carroll brings home $11 million while Payton is at $9.8 million.
(whispers) Pete Carroll has four losing seasons in his career. It’s time for Pittsburgh to cut the check and start paying Mike Tomlin like he’s a white man.


 
@Quek9 @woodchuck


NFL MVP voter admits he made 'big mistake' revealing he won't vote for Aaron Rodgers





One NFL MVP voter who recently revealed he wouldn't be voting for Aaron Rodgers admitted on Wednesday that he made a mistake discussing who he wasn't voting for and why.

On 670 The Score, longtime Chicago-based football reporter Hub Arkush said he regretted his decision to say that he wasn't voting for Rodgers and why, which he did on the same radio station the night before.

“I made a big mistake last night,” Arkush said via ProFootballTalk.

Traditionally, MVP voters don't say who they're voting for until after the results are announced. Arkush didn't technically violate that, since he talked about who he wasn't voting for, but he knows he violated the spirit of the tradition.

“It’s on me,” Arkush said. “I screwed up. ... All you can do is own it, and I own it.”

Why isn't Arkush voting for Rodgers?

Rodgers is having a stellar season on the field, but for Arkush, that alone isn't enough to make him the most valuable player.
“I don’t think you can be the biggest jerk in the league and punish your team, and your organization and your fan base the way he did and be the Most Valuable Player,” Arkush said on Tuesday via ProFootballTalk. “Has he been the most valuable on the field? Yeah, you could make that argument, but I don’t think he is clearly that much more valuable than Jonathan Taylor or Cooper Kupp or maybe even Tom Brady. So from where I sit, the rest of it is why he’s not gonna be my choice. Do I think he’s gonna win it? Probably. A lot of voters don’t approach it the way I do, but others do, who I’ve spoken to. But one of the ways we get to keep being voters is we’re not allowed to say who we are voting for until after the award has been announced. I’m probably pushing the envelope by saying who I’m not voting for. But we’re not really supposed to reveal our votes.”
Arkush makes a decent argument about Rodgers not being the clear MVP, but he's also tying his voting decision to Rodgers' behavior off the field. He misled the public about being vaccinated, claimed he was a victim of "cancel culture" after everyone found out the truth about his vaccination status, and publicly pushed unsafe and unproven "treatments" for COVID-19.

Arkush defended his decision to consider off-the-field factors by pointing out that voters aren't given a rubric or any guidance on what "most valuable player" means, so he feels free to use his own judgment when casting his vote.
“There’s no guidelines,” Arkush said. “We are told to pick the guy who we think is most valuable to his team. And I don’t think it says anywhere, ‘strictly on the field,’ although I do think he hurt his team on the field by the way he acted off the field. They’re gonna get the No. 1 seed anyway, but what if the difference had come down to the Chiefs game, where he lied about being vaccinated, and they ended up getting beat?”
In the end, Arkush said he couldn't square Rodgers' off the field activity with what he thinks an MVP should be.
“I just think that the way he’s carried himself is inappropriate,” Arkush said. “I think he’s a bad guy, and I don’t think a bad guy can be the most valuable guy at the same time.”
Arkush said he could "guarantee" that he wouldn't be the only voter who won't be putting Rodgers on their ballot. But after the backlash he got, he will almost certainly be the only voter talking about who he or she voted for before the result is officially announced.

Rodgers responds, calls Arkush 'a bum'

Rodgers was asked about Arkush and his comments during his media availability on Wednesday, and to no one's surprise, he let loose.


Rodgers believes that Arkush should no longer have an MVP vote. It's not known whether the AP will take any action against Arkush.
 

Antonio Brown takes aim at Tom Brady, Alex Guerrero
Posted by Mike Florio on January 6, 2022, 9:25 AM EST


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Buccaneers (still) receiver Antonio Brown stayed silent (for the most part) until last night. Now, he’s saying plenty about the disintegration of his relationship with the team.

Among the disintegrated relationships? The one that brought him to Tampa in the first place, the connection to quarterback Tom Brady.



A Thursday morning social-media barrage from AB included the sharing of text messages with Alex Guerrero, Tom Brady’s friend, partner, and trainer. It began with Brown requesting on the morning of Christmas Eve half of a $100,000 fee that Brown previously paid to Guerrero, “if we not going to work any more.” Guerrero responded politely and almost cheerfully, offering to “send the balance.”

Brown added this observation on Twitter: “Imagine your QB trainer charges you 100k then doing no work must be was a part of these guys plans all along.”


In other words, Brown is suggesting that Brady and Guerrero wanted to recruit Brown to the Buccaneers because they viewed him as someone who could be targeted for excessive fees charged by the TB12 operation.

It doesn’t matter when Brown is factually correct, and it undoubtedly is not. What matters is that he’s airing out this dirty laundry publicly, and loudly. With Brady due to meet with reporters later today, there’s a chance he’ll be uttering carefully-crafted buzzwords other than “empathy” and “compassion” when talking about Brown.

Brown used social media in 2019 to get what he wanted from the Raiders — his release. He seems to be doing the same thing now. We’ll see whether it ends the bizarre logjam, which has seen coach Bruce Arians say on Sunday that Brown is no longer a member of the team and, four days later, Brown still being a member of the team.
 

Mike Tomlin is proof that NFL owners’ unwillingness to hire more Black coaches is a stupid and willful decision
Steelers coach becomes first in NFL history to start career with 15 straight non-losing seasons
By
Carron J. Phillips





Give Mike Tomlin the respect (and the paycheck) he deserves.Image: Getty Images

If Mike Tomlin were white, he’d be on the Mount Rushmore of NFL coaches and it wouldn’t be debatable.
For close to two decades, he’s survived in a league that’s constantly proven that they don’t want men like him around in positions of power, been to two Super Bowls, and is the youngest coach in NFL history to raise the Lombardi Trophy.
However, the thing that sets Tomlin apart from his peers is his consistency. Despite free agency, rising salary caps, and playing in a league that’s designed to create parity, the Steelers have never been a bad football team during Tomlin’s tenure. Due to Monday night’s 26-14 win over the Browns, it guaranteed that for the 15th straight year Tomlin will end the season with at least a .500 record, something no other coach in NFL history has done to start their careers.



“Not as I sit here today, and I say that humbly,” Tomlin said on Tuesday when asked about the meaning of reaching the mark. “Our agenda, this year, is to get into [the] single-elimination tournament and then pit our skills against others in that single-elimination tournament in an effort to win the world championship. That’s our mentality every year.






“And so with that mentality, it’s just certain hardware that you expect to pick up along the way. And if you don’t, you’d be seriously disappointed. That’s just an expectation that we have here in Pittsburgh.”
To make the playoffs, the Steelers need a few things to go their way, including a win over the Ravens on Sunday, along with a Jaguars victory over the Colts, and for the Chargers/Raiders game not to end in a tie. Depending on Jacksonville is what will likely keep Tomlin from his 10th postseason appearance in 15 years. But yet, despite all he’s accomplished, Tomlin is constantly disrespected, like when he was asked about the USC job last fall. Only Black people are expected to be excited about potential jobs that will turn out to be a lateral move or a demotion.

“Anybody asking Sean Payton about that, ya know? Anybody asking Andy Reid about stuff like that?” asked Tomlin.
The reason Tomlin mentioned those white Super Bowl-winning coaches is because he’s better than them, yet they don’t have to deal with trivial questions and speculations about college jobs that are beneath them like he does. In total, Tomlin is 153-85-2 for a winning percentage of .642. By comparison, Payton’s winning pct. is .629, while Reid’s is .632. And in case you were wondering, Reid has three losing seasons on his resume and Payton has four. Tomlin? None. And unlike Reid and Payton, Tomlin doesn’t get as much media attention as other coaches in the league despite having a better resume. You won’t find him in too many national commercials as a pitch man.
And then there are the unnecessary shots that Tomlin has taken over the years from people like former Steeler Terry Bradshaw, who once said that Tomlin “was not his kind of coach” and referred to him as a cheerleader.

“I think he’s not just a great Black head coach, he’s a great head coach,” Steelers defensive tackle Cameron Heyward said in 2020. “It’s one thing to be the all-time winningest Black head coach, but this dude deserves more than enough credit. To never have a losing season, to get the most out of his players. It’s not just first-rounders that wound up playing great here. He’s had fifth [round], sixth, undrafted guys who’ve done well.
“I know a lot of people like to say he inherited a great team, but think about other people who have inherited great teams. Think about the basketball teams that Phil Jackson would take over. That’s not a shot at him, but when you are able to lead a group of men and lead them the right way, that says a lot about the type of coach you are.”
When Michigan State signed Mel Tucker to a 10-year, $95 million deal in November, it made him the highest-paid Black coach in American sports – which is a gamechanger. And while Tomlin is the highest-paid Black coach in the NFL making $8 million a year, it’s laughable that anybody outside of Bill Belichick – $12.5 million – makes more than him annually, as Pete Carroll brings home $11 million while Payton is at $9.8 million.
(whispers) Pete Carroll has four losing seasons in his career. It’s time for Pittsburgh to cut the check and start paying Mike Tomlin like he’s a white man.



Fuck Bradshaw AND that coon. :hmm:
 
@Quek9 @woodchuck


NFL MVP voter admits he made 'big mistake' revealing he won't vote for Aaron Rodgers





One NFL MVP voter who recently revealed he wouldn't be voting for Aaron Rodgers admitted on Wednesday that he made a mistake discussing who he wasn't voting for and why.

On 670 The Score, longtime Chicago-based football reporter Hub Arkush said he regretted his decision to say that he wasn't voting for Rodgers and why, which he did on the same radio station the night before.

“I made a big mistake last night,” Arkush said via ProFootballTalk.

Traditionally, MVP voters don't say who they're voting for until after the results are announced. Arkush didn't technically violate that, since he talked about who he wasn't voting for, but he knows he violated the spirit of the tradition.

“It’s on me,” Arkush said. “I screwed up. ... All you can do is own it, and I own it.”

Why isn't Arkush voting for Rodgers?

Rodgers is having a stellar season on the field, but for Arkush, that alone isn't enough to make him the most valuable player.

Arkush makes a decent argument about Rodgers not being the clear MVP, but he's also tying his voting decision to Rodgers' behavior off the field. He misled the public about being vaccinated, claimed he was a victim of "cancel culture" after everyone found out the truth about his vaccination status, and publicly pushed unsafe and unproven "treatments" for COVID-19.

Arkush defended his decision to consider off-the-field factors by pointing out that voters aren't given a rubric or any guidance on what "most valuable player" means, so he feels free to use his own judgment when casting his vote.

In the end, Arkush said he couldn't square Rodgers' off the field activity with what he thinks an MVP should be.

Arkush said he could "guarantee" that he wouldn't be the only voter who won't be putting Rodgers on their ballot. But after the backlash he got, he will almost certainly be the only voter talking about who he or she voted for before the result is officially announced.

Rodgers responds, calls Arkush 'a bum'

Rodgers was asked about Arkush and his comments during his media availability on Wednesday, and to no one's surprise, he let loose.


Rodgers believes that Arkush should no longer have an MVP vote. It's not known whether the AP will take any action against Arkush.

C'mon Aaron, you don't know who that bum Hub Arkush is? FOH.

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The introduction of the lawsuit read:

Plaintiff files this class action individually and on behalf of millions of other similarly situated individuals against Defendants for false advertising, deceptive practices, Civil RICO violations, and unjust enrichment. Plaintiff and similarly situated NFL fans have been damaged by use of the “New York” (“NY”) name and brand and the out-of-state relocation of both franchises after the NFL Giants and Jets moved to the State of New Jersey to play football in MetLife Stadium (formerly Giants Stadium).
Defendants have damaged Plaintiff and the class and syphoned billions of dollars from interstate commerce that should have been rightfully spent in the State of New York. If the Yankees, Mets, Knicks, Liberty, Rangers, and other New York franchises must play in New York and pay premium real estate costs and taxes to be branded a “New York” (“NY”) sports franchise, it is only fair that the NFL Giants and Jets do the same or change their name to accurately reflect the location of their stadium in East Rutherford, New Jersey. Plaintiff and the class request equitable relief and monetary damages.
Suero and Spencer actually had a section in their lawsuit titled emotional and psychological damages, the document continued: “Medical experts have determined that there are at least eight factors that motivate people to become sports fans, including eustress (positive response to stress), self-esteem, escape, entertainment, aesthetic, group affiliation and family needs.”


A highlighted section of the Jets and Giants record over the past decade noted: “As Giants and Jets fans, Plaintiff and the class are insulted, ridiculed, harassed, tormented, and bullied by NFL fans around the United States due to the affiliation of the Giants and Jets with the State of New York rather than their true home, New Jersey… Plaintiff and the class have suffered mental and emotional damages including depression, sadness, and anxiety, as well as limited and damaged eustress, self-esteem, escape, entertainment, group affiliation and family needs as a result of Defendants’ conduct.”

According to McShane, “the lawsuit seeks $2 billion in monetary damages and $4 billion in punitive damages,” which would then be divvied up to “all Giants and Jets fans who live in New York.” Additionally, a “$50 minimum per class member” was requested.

We don’t even have to wait to update this story later as the lawsuit has no chance of winning anything and will likely be thrown out.



The Jets and Giants are both currently 4-12 in 2021 as they head into their final game of the year where the only thing they are fighting for is draft position.
 




Man what the hell is wrong with Shannahan ???
Either this is the biggest jedi mind trick in the history of football
To get the Rams to prepare for 2 quarterbacks
Or they are really thinking of playing Garoppolo on Sunday :eek2:
The season that fans want him to miss a bunch of games, he stays relatively healthy instead.....ain't that a bitch
This dude is like herpes, man you just can't get rid of him

:fuckyousay::fuckyousay::fuckyousay::fuckyousay::fuckyousay::fuckyousay::fuckyousay::fuckyousay:
 
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