UPDATE : Jon Gruden RESIGNS as Raiders HC in the midst of 2011 racist email scandal

[REDLINE]

Your not addressing the point.

When he attacked a black man

Other Black men rallied to defend the WHITE MAN.

The white man

when has someone bashed gays and jews and Asians like that

and a large contingent from either group

Loudly openly publicly defended that person?

So I don't care that they found more emails and they were not only homophobic but also misogynistic

Neither of THOSE groups would have openly defended Gruden either.

What just happened is an indictment on PLAYERS and those so called black men who sided with Gruden

How is this some opportunity to criticize gays?

They established a standard and paradigm where now corporations and institutions KNOW not to f*ck with them

Again how is nothing but a negative reflection on the black Gruden supporters and the NFL?

On on us not establishing ourselves in the same way.

We should be envious and reflect on why after all this time we STILL not unified on ANYTHING?

The point is talking shit about a Black man was cool and the situation would’ve blown over.

Players and media gave their opinions and the situation was talked about.

Jon used the F word and talked about a gay person and a resignation was given damn near before what was said in the emails was made public.

That’s what I’m talking about.

 

[REDLINE]

Actually it was probably more like

 

[850credit]

The shame in all this is that with the exception of Tomlin who basically has tenure cause Pittsburgh doesn't like to change coaches, every other Black coach has had to walk around like a eunuch and not walk like a Black man. Meanwhile Gruden and his ilk can talk all the shit they want and it's just good hard nosed coaching and business savvy.

Dungy should know this and yet he still refuses to call out wrongs until public opinion is on that side. He had to act like coach MLK, otherwise he wouldn't have even had the opportunity to be a head coach.

Ironic that Art Shell was Raiders coach.

 

[cnc]

per Mike he dont count. Mike was defending his white brethen

Tirico’s brothers:

 

[850credit]

Let's not forget the Denver coach who said racism doesn't exist in the NFL cause it's a meritocracy.

 

[samh32]

It wasn't the black comments that got him....Remarks about the Alphabet boys and girls was the final straw. Punks got power...

 

[playahaitian]

The point is talking shit about a Black man was cool and the situation would’ve blown over.

Players and media gave their opinions and the situation was talked about.

Jon used the F word and talked about a gay person and a resignation was given damn near before what was said in the emails was made public.

That’s what I’m talking about.

Nope.

It would have blown over because THEY and WE would allow to.

We don't have in place anything to apply pressure.

If we DID

like ALL THE OTHER GROUPS I MENTIONED?

He would have been gone immediately

But again

They didn't give an opinion...

Those black men DEFENDED HIM.

There is a difference

They DEFENDED him

So how we supposed to scream about oppression

When people supposedly on our side are SCREAMING LEAVE HIM ALONE?

The gay community is NOT DEFENDING and would NEVER DEFEND Gruden

You think if THOSE SAME black and white journalists pundits current and former athletes

all unified and Immediately said

This is unacceptable.

Gruden would still have his job?

 

[playahaitian]

Let's not forget the Denver coach who said racism doesn't exist in the NFL cause it's a meritocracy.

Bro I've been upping the thread for months

 

[REDLINE]

Nope.

It would have blown over because THEY and WE would allow to.

We don't have in place anything to apply pressure.

If we DID

like ALL THE OTHER GROUPS I MENTIONED?

He would have been gone immediately

But again

They didn't give an opinion...

Those black men DEFENDED HIM.

There is a difference

They DEFENDED him

So how we supposed to scream about oppression

When people supposedly on our side are SCREAMING LEAVE HIM ALONE?

The gay community is NOT DEFENDING and would NEVER DEFEND Gruden

You think if THOSE SAME black and white journalists pundits current and former athletes

all unified and Immediately said

This is unacceptable.

Gruden would still have his job?

You’re right, we don’t have anything in place to apply pressure.

 

[gdatruth]

moral of the story boys and girl...you can be racist 7 years ago but you can never be homophobic. There are more black ppl in America (13-14%) but the LGTBQ community (5-6%) take no prisoners. You gotta tip your cap to them

Black Ppl: Forgive and forget, Benefit of the doubt, turn the other cheek, hug the person that killed your brother
LGTBQ: on sight, fuck you forever, never forgive or forget,

 

[Dirtylakerie]

 

[playahaitian]

You’re right, we don’t have anything in place to apply pressure.

We GOTTA do better bro

It's up to US.

I ain't about to get MAD at them for creating a machine we should have BEEN HAD

Especially in the case of the NFL

After Kap?

We can't cry complain and finger point when we can't rally together for our own best interests.

Remember how when DAVE asked us about boycotting?

we were READY TO GO.

My question is when it's about protecting our civil liberties?

Will we mobilize the same way?

Cause we just saw grown ass professionals black men run to defend John Gruden.

Where are all this folk when there are no black coaches and executives in the league?

 

[playahaitian]

moral of the story boys and girl...you can be racist 7 years ago but you can never be homophobic. There are more black ppl in America (13-14%) but the LGTBQ community (5-6%) take no prisoners. You gotta tip your cap to them

Black Ppl: Forgive and forget, Benefit of the doubt, turn the other cheek, hug the person that killed your brother
LGTBQ: on sight, fuck you forever, never forgive or forget,

Damn you for being so direct and to the point.

That's what I been trying to say

 

[TheAlias]

white journalists pundits

Listening to the reporting for the past few days, they were lowkey defending him. They're framing the controversy within the context of the current equality push in the NFL......in other words saying it's wrong because of the current climate NOT because of the racist nature of the comments.

You have to read behind the lines when it comes to these entitled, no talent devils

 

[playahaitian]

 

[Non-StopJFK2TAB]

Drew Brees is a racist.

People should stop letting white people gaslight them.

 

[tallblacknyc]

Chappelle was right
you can be racist and get a pass...he coached this weekend and was forgiven by some blacks in football

but being homophobic...you gotta go
you cant make this shit up especially after the last week or so

The closer niggadamaus the raiders

 

[tallblacknyc]

moral of the story boys and girl...you can be racist 7 years ago but you can never be homophobic. There are more black ppl in America (13-14%) but the LGTBQ community (5-6%) take no prisoners. You gotta tip your cap to them

Black Ppl: Forgive and forget, Benefit of the doubt, turn the other cheek, hug the person that killed your brother
LGTBQ: on sight, fuck you forever, never forgive or forget,

Jews and gays run many industries..in particular the entertainment industry.. when you run the game you create the rules and laws of the land… if you upset the architect he has the ability to get rid of you.. black people didn’t create the American entertainment system or neither run it..we are simply employees or content creators.. gruden is out cause he upset 1 of the rulers of the biz..the fag community

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

 

[Dr. Truth]

 

[blackman80]

I knew he was going to resigned or get fired!!...

 

[jack walsh13]

Mike Tirico & Dungy defended him last night

Yup.

 

[TIMEISMONEY]

Mike Tirico & Dungy defended him last night

I've been trying to find that clip all day

 

[World B Free]

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

I've been trying to find that clip all day

I found part of it....

 

[tallblacknyc]

I found part of it....

Many people can say the samething about serial killers

 

[playahaitian]

Jews and gays run many industries..in particular the entertainment industry.. when you run the game you create the rules and laws of the land… if you upset the architect he has the ability to get rid of you.. black people didn’t create the American entertainment system or neither run it..we are simply employees or content creators.. gruden is out cause he upset 1 of the rulers of the biz..the fag community

But you cannot dismiss the wave of black men who RAN QUICKLY to every open microphone and camera to defend Gruden.

I ain't saying you wrong but you can't start blaming gay folk

when not 24 hours later after he was exposed

WE mobilized AGAINST ourselves?

 

[playahaitian]

I found part of it....

Yup.

So how we blaming OTHER groups when we got our own doing this?

Ain't no GROUP of Asian gay or Jewish folk gonna go against the movement on national TV like this.

Immediately too.

 

[playahaitian]

This is 100% true

but ain't no gay folk going on CBS a few hours later saying

Well,, Gruden always been nice to ME!

Please don't ignore the part where Dave also said

he is ENVIOUS of how unified and organized the LGBTQ community is.

He was challenging US TOO.

 

[jack walsh13]

 

[tallblacknyc]

But you cannot dismiss the wave of black men who RAN QUICKLY to every open microphone and camera to defend Gruden.

I ain't saying you wrong but you can't start blaming gay folk

when not 24 hours later after he was exposed

WE mobilized AGAINST ourselves?

We didn’t mobilize against ourselves.. a few people that happened to be black was sticking up for him.. I’m pretty sure some cacs were to.. in general none of that matters cause no black person had the power to fire him.. only pale faces.. jews and queers could easily start pulling ads and sponsors that they own away from the raiders organization if they refused to not kick him off.. ya have to see for yourself to completely understand whose behind the scenes running things.. the bergs/stein and some of them are fruits to.. so a gay Jew can make the phone call

 

[tallblacknyc]

This is 100% true

but ain't no gay folk going on CBS a few hours later saying

Well,, Gruden always been nice to ME!

Please don't ignore the part where Dave also said

he is ENVIOUS of how unified and organized the LGBTQ community is.

He was challenging US TOO.

If he could say what he wanted to really say he would tell you the investor, the producer is probably some berg nig that’s a fruit.. gays aren’t powerful cause of unity..they are powerful cause some of those Jews are gays..that’s actually 1 of the quiet secrets..trust me I been around the scene and seen them.. some flaming Stein dude calling all the shots and having power for a studio… it was 1 of the biggest wake up calls for me.. it’s a lot of them.. that’s why I say Jew and gay is almost the samething in Hollywood cause sometime they are both…best believe that lbt group got a lot of Jew connections

 

[playahaitian]

We didn’t mobilize against ourselves.. a few people that happened to be black was sticking up for him.. I’m pretty sure some cacs were to.. in general none of that matters cause no black person had the power to fire him.. only pale faces.. jews and queers could easily start pulling ads and sponsors that they own away from the raiders organization if they refused to not kick him off.. ya have to see for yourself to completely understand whose behind the scenes running things.. the bergs/stein and some of them are fruits to.. so a gay Jew can make the phone call

Oh trust the cacs of course defended him...

They supposed to though bro.

But I completely disagree with saying none of that matters

It ain't that

it can't be that.

So cooning is OK?

So being unified and mobilizing means nothing?

Black folk speaking moving buying investing supporting within ourselves don't matter?

If that's the case?

We already lost and we might as well stfu stop complaining and not do anything.

I refuse to believe if those dudes specifically had PUBLICLY DENOUNCED Gruden loudly from jump?

Nothing would have been done.

F*ck can we at least TRY IT ONE TIME ?

Just to prove me wrong?

 

[Pworld297]

How many years did he have on that 10 /$100 million contract?

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

This is 100% true

but ain't no gay folk going on CBS a few hours later saying

Well,, Gruden always been nice to ME!

Please don't ignore the part where Dave also said

he is ENVIOUS of how unified and organized the LGBTQ community is.

He was challenging US TOO.

I don't think we'll ever unify like we were during the Civil Rights era because so many of us care about the mighty dollar than doing the right thing. Just look,how the players and these so called black organizations said fuck Kaepernick and Reid. They did all that talking but did nothing to help them get their jobs back.