IMO, I think Nick Kahn (WWE President), looked at the practice of hoarding talent to slow the growth of other companies as nonsense. WWE moves on a different tier than the other wrestling companies and Kahn is setting them up to be what Vince always claimed they were, a media/entertainment company. There's no sense in keeping all those performers on the books just for them set around backstage or at home.
 
If Braun wants his bread he should go to Japan :yes: . He could be the modern version what Bruiser Brody, Stan Hansen, Dr. Death, Terry Gordy, Vader, Bigelow, and Scott Norton was over there. He could be the lead American monster in Japan and get great notoriety. When he comes back to the states he would get a better deal than he had in WWE.
But with who though? He was already one of the highest paid wrestlers in WWE.....what other company can give him even more than that?
 
This weeks Dark Side of the Ring....my damn......

So you want to talk about some shit you didn't know..........

Had no idea Jake the Snake was from a wrestling family....

Had no idea he had a brother and sister who wrestled and a father who wrestled......

And had no idea how much of a piece of shit his dad was.......

No wonder Jake abused drugs and alcohol.......he had to cope with that fucked up upbringing somehow.......
 
This weeks Dark Side of the Ring....my damn......

So you want to talk about some shit you didn't know..........

Had no idea Jake the Snake was from a wrestling family....

Had no idea he had a brother and sister who wrestled and a father who wrestled......

And had no idea how much of a piece of shit his dad was.......

No wonder Jake abused drugs and alcohol.......he had to cope with that fucked up upbringing somehow.......
Jake never being WWF Champion is some of the wackest shit ever!! Hogan and his bullshit stopped a lot of greats from having a run. I watched the Dark Side Of The Ring about Ultimate Warrior, I totally forgot Hogan kicked out as the ref counted 3. He was horrible for the shit he pulled. Jake, Mr Wonderful, Dibiase, Muraco etc all could have been great champs. I still remember plain as day Undertaker dropping his ass on that chair at Survivor Series, I danced a fucking jig. Then the bitch just took it back by cheating on that Tuesday In Texas ppv.
 
Jake never being WWF Champion is some of the wackest shit ever!! Hogan and his bullshit stopped a lot of greats from having a run. I watched the Dark Side Of The Ring about Ultimate Warrior, I totally forgot Hogan kicked out as the ref counted 3. He was horrible for the shit he pulled. Jake, Mr Wonderful, Dibiase, Muraco etc all could have been great champs. I still remember plain as day Undertaker dropping his ass on that chair at Survivor Series, I danced a fucking jig. Then the bitch just took it back by cheating on that Tuesday In Texas ppv.
You know as a kid man I was too young to remember that people but its crazy people who I grew up watching like Razor Ramon, Mr Perfect....Jake the Snake......Owen Hart....man I never had no clue they never got the title. Which is CRAZY. I mean they were in eras with Hulk, Stone Cold, The Rock...I get it but damn...that Hulkamania ran wild for too damn long in the early 90's.
 
You know as a kid man I was too young to remember that people but its crazy people who I grew up watching like Razor Ramon, Mr Perfect....Jake the Snake......Owen Hart....man I never had no clue they never got the title. Which is CRAZY. I mean they were in eras with Hulk, Stone Cold, The Rock...I get it but damn...that Hulkamania ran wild for too damn long in the early 90's.
And if u watch that big blonde bitch he CHEATED ALL THE TIME!!! Eye rakes, back brakes, hit Zeus with a loaded purse, threw ashes from the urn in Undertaker face, had a muthafucking helmet with a fist on it that he used. He was always a heel if u think about it. Him and his politics backstage held a ton of people back. I forgot all about Mr Perfect!!!
 
And if u watch that big blonde bitch he CHEATED ALL THE TIME!!! Eye rakes, back brakes, hit Zeus with a loaded purse, threw ashes from the urn in Undertaker face, had a muthafucking helmet with a fist on it that he used. He was always a heel if u think about it. Him and his politics backstage held a ton of people back. I forgot all about Mr Perfect!!!

Ain't that some shit....he's Mr. American....cheating to win. :lol: And getting rewarded for it. Unbelievable. :lol:

That big stiff muthafucka with the worst finishing move ever. Fucking leg drop.......

As a kid I did not get the love for Hogan. Never got it. I know he got pushed but I honestly resonated with apparently lesser wrestlers in regards to who got the title because I honestly gravitated more to guys like Razor Ramon, Mr Perfect, etc. then I did a guy like Hogan.
 
Jake never being WWF Champion is some of the wackest shit ever!! Hogan and his bullshit stopped a lot of greats from having a run. I watched the Dark Side Of The Ring about Ultimate Warrior, I totally forgot Hogan kicked out as the ref counted 3. He was horrible for the shit he pulled. Jake, Mr Wonderful, Dibiase, Muraco etc all could have been great champs. I still remember plain as day Undertaker dropping his ass on that chair at Survivor Series, I danced a fucking jig. Then the bitch just took it back by cheating on that Tuesday In Texas ppv.


Hogan?? Really.... if Vince wanted Jake with the belt or anyone for that matter they would have it. Not shit Hogan or anyone else could do. Hogan deserves alot of hate but yall be taking it overboard
 
Jake is a fucking liar. He was on the Ultimate Warrior Dark Side of the Ring episode talking about how he was supposed to be in a title program with Warrior and Warrior nixed the plans.

Warrior wasn’t even champion during the time Jake was supposedly feuding with Warrior. Then he said he was going to attack Warrior at the Hall of Fame. GTFOH Jake.

I like Jake Roberts, always thought he was a great talker and decent wrestler, but either all the drugs and trauma he experienced fucked his memory up, or he’s a pathological liar.

I would take anything Jake says about most things, not including his fucked up childhood, with a grain of salt.
 
Hogan?? Really.... if Vince wanted Jake with the belt or anyone for that matter they would have it. Not shit Hogan or anyone else could do. Hogan deserves alot of hate but yall be taking it overboard
Nah Hogan and Vince were besties. U can look online to see all the backstage politics Hogan used. Anything Hogan said Vince went with. Hogan even made Macho Man winning the title about him.
 
IMO, I think Nick Kahn (WWE President), looked at the practice of hoarding talent to slow the growth of other companies as nonsense. WWE moves on a different tier than the other wrestling companies and Kahn is setting them up to be what Vince always claimed they were, a media/entertainment company. There's no sense in keeping all those performers on the books just for them set around backstage or at home.

Yeah, maybe y'all are right about the cutting Braun for his salary. BEFORE Nick Kahn, I don't think Vince would've let Braun go, but now that Kahn's in the picture, it seems like everything they've done or are about to do is about to be some type of money move, and however it affects Creative, it doesn't even matter.

Like I heard they're scouting new guys in the performance center to bring up to the main roster, or probably NXT and then call up NXT guys. It seems like the idea is to get rid of the big money contracts and fill out the roster by having a bunch of rookies on small contracts.

Clearly, WWE doesn't care about not putting out the best product, so they're just letting whoever go off into the wild. It's probably only Drew, Roman and Charlotte who are safe.
 
Yeah, maybe y'all are right about the cutting Braun for his salary. BEFORE Nick Kahn, I don't think Vince would've let Braun go, but now that Kahn's in the picture, it seems like everything they've done or are about to do is about to be some type of money move, and however it affects Creative, it doesn't even matter.

Like I heard they're scouting new guys in the performance center to bring up to the main roster, or probably NXT and then call up NXT guys. It seems like the idea is to get rid of the big money contracts and fill out the roster by having a bunch of rookies on small contracts.

Clearly, WWE doesn't care about not putting out the best product, so they're just letting whoever go off into the wild. It's probably only Drew, Roman and Charlotte who are safe.
Hell the guys in NXT should want no part of the main roster. Anybody after Drew they fucked up. They still got that Dijakovic muthafucka who put on classic matches with Keith Lee(who they also fucked up) running around calling himself Mace or T Bar!! Eddie Guerrero son Dominic got a tag title b4 anyone else got anything!! :lol: :lol:
 
This weeks Dark Side of the Ring....my damn......

So you want to talk about some shit you didn't know..........

Had no idea Jake the Snake was from a wrestling family....

Had no idea he had a brother and sister who wrestled and a father who wrestled......

And had no idea how much of a piece of shit his dad was.......

No wonder Jake abused drugs and alcohol.......he had to cope with that fucked up upbringing somehow.......
Just finished watching that episode, shit's got me all fucked up
I only learned within the past couple years who Grizzly Smith was and that he was Jake's dad (and also Sam Houston's and Rockin Robin's dad)
Talk about a low down dirty piece of shit human being
A serial pedophile, child molester to his own kids and possibly had one of his daughters kidnapped and killed. :smh:
 
Jake never being WWF Champion is some of the wackest shit ever!! Hogan and his bullshit stopped a lot of greats from having a run. I watched the Dark Side Of The Ring about Ultimate Warrior, I totally forgot Hogan kicked out as the ref counted 3. He was horrible for the shit he pulled. Jake, Mr Wonderful, Dibiase, Muraco etc all could have been great champs. I still remember plain as day Undertaker dropping his ass on that chair at Survivor Series, I danced a fucking jig. Then the bitch just took it back by cheating on that Tuesday In Texas ppv.
Jake had his demons even back then. No way they would have given him the title. He was not dependable enough.
 
Jake is a fucking liar. He was on the Ultimate Warrior Dark Side of the Ring episode talking about how he was supposed to be in a title program with Warrior and Warrior nixed the plans.

Warrior wasn’t even champion during the time Jake was supposedly feuding with Warrior. Then he said he was going to attack Warrior at the Hall of Fame. GTFOH Jake.

I like Jake Roberts, always thought he was a great talker and decent wrestler, but either all the drugs and trauma he experienced fucked his memory up, or he’s a pathological liar.

I would take anything Jake says about most things, not including his fucked up childhood, with a grain of salt.
Jake is a proven pathological liar. He likes to just tell stories to entertain himself and others.
He claims that Honky Tonk Man hitting him over the head with a guitar lead to his drug addictions :lol:
 
Hell the guys in NXT should want no part of the main roster. Anybody after Drew they fucked up. They still got that Dijakovic muthafucka who put on classic matches with Keith Lee(who they also fucked up) running around calling himself Mace or T Bar!! Eddie Guerrero son Dominic got a tag title b4 anyone else got anything!! :lol: :lol:


there is an interesting stat going around online that more NXT former champs have been cut then have been called up and won on of the titles
there is a crazy disconnect because NXT is effectively supposed to be the Main Roster's farm system.

Cuts
Bo Dallas
Neville
Samoa Joe
Andrade
Aleister Black

Champs
Seth
Finn
Drew

and the last of NXT callups that have been DOA is astonishing
ppl get called up never debut and then get cut
 
Just finished watching that episode, shit's got me all fucked up
I only learned within the past couple years who Grizzly Smith was and that he was Jake's dad (and also Sam Houston's and Rockin Robin's dad)
Talk about a low down dirty piece of shit human being
A serial pedophile, child molester to his own kids and possibly had one of his daughters kidnapped and killed. :smh:

Man....so I don't know if i'm just out of touch but Jake the Snake is one of the first wrestlers ever watched...my friend as a kid was watching wrestling and he put me on to Jake the Snake and I became a fan instantly...Never heard NONE of this shit about him....been watching wrestling since the mid 90's.....never knew.

This shit could've been a movie whether scripted or documentary I have a strong feeling they could've easily gotten 2 hours out of this story if they wanted to.

Shit they honestly should've started off with this episode as opposed to Brian Pullman even though that one was good too.


So my only question about the theory of him having his daughter killed is what's the motive?
 
Jake is a fucking liar. He was on the Ultimate Warrior Dark Side of the Ring episode talking about how he was supposed to be in a title program with Warrior and Warrior nixed the plans.

Warrior wasn’t even champion during the time Jake was supposedly feuding with Warrior. Then he said he was going to attack Warrior at the Hall of Fame. GTFOH Jake.

I like Jake Roberts, always thought he was a great talker and decent wrestler, but either all the drugs and trauma he experienced fucked his memory up, or he’s a pathological liar.

I would take anything Jake says about most things, not including his fucked up childhood, with a grain of salt.

Man all of these wrestlers....I just chalk it up to them getting knocked over the head 5 days out of the week during their career. I honestly feel all these guys lie not to be malicious but because they truly believe that's what happened.......

And when this episode about essentially his childhood came on first thing I thought of was alright he's about to lie because I just came off the Warrior episode and I thought he kind of embelished the story about the HOF thing.....so it shocked me to see his siblings pretty much confirm everything he said and it sort of put things in perspectrive. He said straight up that he's Jake Roberts now. He's buried Aurelian Smith so I think at times when you do that type of burying you become the character and as a result he's probably remembering some things differently than they actually happened.
 
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