‘American Gods’ Actor Orlando Jones Says He Was Fired Because Mr. Nancy Is ‘Wrong Message for Black America’
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Oh shit........ looks like these folk was traveling down a road to some real shit.... white folk got spooked
Look at what this bitch got on“So I just repeated what they had said. All I can say is what I was told. And all what I was told was, ‘angry gets shit done’ is the wrong message for black America, and that the new showrunner [Chic Eglee] writes from a black male perspective.”
Someone posted the American Gods audiobook on bgol and I listened to it. It was good. It is a modernized rehash of the greek war of the gods, but in this case the old gods are trying to overthrown the new unworthy american gods. All the old gods are ANGRY and fighting for their survival, b/c they are being forgotten by their followers as the new american gods spread their influence and power over the people. So it don't make sense for anansi to NOT be angry.
Orlando's influence on the show was actually in line with the intention of the book. He clearly was a threat because he kept telling them how anansi should be played. It hit too close to home.
That paraphrase, in the third clip in the set of three posted earlier in this thread, Orlando borrowed from Steve Biko leader of the Black Conciousness movement in Apartheid South Africa. The original quote was:
"The most potent weapon in the hands of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed"
Steve Biko was a major threat to white supremacy everywhere. He was murdered for his ideas (Check out his book "I write what I like"). He was South Africa's Malcolm X in a way.
Anyway, this whole thing with Orlando being fired by the CACs "who know about being Black better than Orlando do" actually mirrors the battle of influence over the people between the old gods (Orlando) and the new american gods (Charles Eglee & Fremantle). You talk about art mirroring life and vice versa, this is it.
I going to keep watching the show to see what happens. I'm lowkey stalking the black woman goddess who swallows motherfuckas whole with her pussy. I was horrified, but couldn't turn away. She beautiful. But also, this hollywoood entertainment industry is one of the new american gods and I like too see the game the enemy runs.
Yetide Badaki is a Nigerian-born American actress:
Orlando's influence on the show was actually in line with the intention of the book. He clearly was a threat because he kept telling them how anansi should be played. It hit too close to home.
That paraphrase, in the third clip in the set of three posted earlier in this thread, Orlando borrowed from Steve Biko leader of the Black Conciousness movement in Apartheid South Africa. The original quote was:
"The most potent weapon in the hands of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed"
Steve Biko was a major threat to white supremacy everywhere. He was murdered for his ideas (Check out his book "I write what I like"). He was South Africa's Malcolm X in a way.
Anyway, this whole thing with Orlando being fired by the CACs "who know about being Black better than Orlando do" actually mirrors the battle of influence over the people between the old gods (Orlando) and the new american gods (Charles Eglee & Fremantle). You talk about art mirroring life and vice versa, this is it.
I going to keep watching the show to see what happens. I'm lowkey stalking the black woman goddess who swallows motherfuckas whole with her pussy. I was horrified, but couldn't turn away. She beautiful. But also, this hollywoood entertainment industry is one of the new american gods and I like too see the game the enemy runs.
Yetide Badaki is a Nigerian-born American actress:
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Yeah they might as well cancel it.
I said after the first season that Anesi should have gotten a spin-off
I said after the first season that Anesi should have gotten a spin-off
That's what jumped out to me as well. A lot of white people are pissed about this.
True, cause he has one in the books called the Anansi Boys.
It would be amazing if Orlando Jones were able to be involved in a production of Anansi Boys.
Anansi Boys is a fantasy novel by English writer Neil Gaiman. In the novel, "Mr. Nancy" — an incarnation of the West African trickster god Anansi — dies, leaving two sons, who in turn discover each other. The novel follows their adventures as they explore their common heritage. Although it is not a sequel to Gaiman's previous novel American Gods, the character of Mr. Nancy appears in both books.
Anansi Boys was published on 20 September 2005 and was released in paperback on 1 October 2006. The book debuted at number one on The New York Times Best Seller list,[1] and won both the Locus Award and the British Fantasy Society Award in 2006.[2] The audiobook was released in 2005, narrated by Lenny Henry.
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Cause acting is acting
It was compelling well written scene stealing material in an otherwise jumbled fake stylized mess
1st season was watchmen
2nd season was sucker punch.
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Oh you NEED to see this cuz
This RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT here. Give what we know about the media in today's world? Shiiiiiiiiit I'm surprised that show had a character like Mr. Nancy on there any way. That's one mythological deity that got a little TOO real for them.
You need funding
This is what I did...any faggotry.. displayed on any series...I'm out.. never to watch another episode again... even on the WATCHMEN...brah
this show was canceled in my mind following fueller's exist and extended break between seasons.
Starz should make it official and put everyone left out of their misery. What the show appealing is long gone and most of the great cast is gone.
this a zombie show now that needs to be shot in the head
I wouldn't mind seeing him play this Black Panther villain in Black Panther 2.
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Yeah I cancelled starz after Power ended. Because of Jones firing. So they can do what ever they want. I wont see it either way.
Then in season 2 when he went to see the god money, money rejected him for not having a financial history EVER..... how about a lil continuity cracka ass cracka?
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its a damn shame when a viewer does not pay attention... but complains about continuity
Instead of the riddles, tell us what we missed. U can build or destroy, help us or tease us....
its a damn shame when a viewer does not pay attention... but complains about continuity
Neil Gaiman reflects on American Gods season 3, teases what could come in potential season 4
The author of the show's source material discusses the "frustrating, upsetting and maddening" cliffhanger as war approaches in an uncertain future.
By Christian Holub
March 22, 2021 at 11:18 AM EDT
Warning: This article contains spoilers about Sunday's season finale of American Gods.
Never trust a conman. Just when you start to believe for real, you'll realize you were being played all along.
American Gods has been a long and winding road. After a critically acclaimed first season overseen by Bryan Fuller and Michael Green and a more uneven second season following their ouster, season 3 finally hit some of the major plot points in Neil Gaiman's original novel by the time the season finale wrapped on Sunday. Not only did Shadow Moon (Ricky Whittle) finally make it to Lakeside, the frozen Midwestern town with more than a few dark secrets hidden beneath the surface of its icy lake, but by the end of the season he was literally dead.
In a one-two punch for the ages, American Gods killed off its two main characters in the final episodes of season 3. Episode 9, "The Lake Effect," ended with Mr. Wednesday (Ian McShane) getting struck down by his own legendary spear Gungnir, inspiring Shadow to hold vigil for his fallen father in episode 10, "Tears of the Wrath-Bearing Tree." But hanging from the branches of the world tree Yggdrasil (as Norse ritual dictates for a god's funeral) is too much for any mortal to endure, and the season ended with Shadow perishing on the tree.
"Episodes 9 and 10 are a couple of my favorite episodes of the whole of American Gods. It's like all of the ravens come home to roost," Gaiman tells EW. "This is where lots of things that were set up in season 1, and even some things set up in season 2, this is where they all come in and land. At the end of episode 10, we know and Shadow knows what's going on. So we're very, very much back in the book."
It's a climactic cliffhanger, especially thrilling since American Gods has not yet been officially picked up for season 4 by Starz. Remarkably, each season has had a different showrunner at the helm, with Gaiman serving as executive producer and consulting with each one (aided by his own experience as a showrunner of Amazon's Good Omens). But for once, Gaiman says it "would be lovely" to have season 3 showrunner Charles "Chic" H. Eglee stay on for another season, if the renewal happens.
"I would love that continuity. I sigh deeply when I learn that somebody else has left, because it means that I'm going to have to start again at the beginning with somebody, and that is literally the last thing that any of us want," Gaiman says. "But on the good side, it means that I've made a lot of friends that I wouldn't have made otherwise. I put a lot of things into the stew in the beginning, and so did Bryan and Michael. Jesse put some stuff into the stew. And now Chic has actually sort of stirred it and spiced it and is serving the stew to perfection."
CREDIT: STARZ
Gaiman continues, "I think season 1 was fabulous, but it tended to become almost an anthology show. There was the Laura episode, and the Easter episode. One of the things I love about season 3 is it doesn't really do that. You remember high points and low points, but mostly it becomes a driving story that gets you through and a story in which Ricky Whittle as Shadow Moon finally steps into his role."
Unfortunately, because American Gods has been a bumpy ride, it has lost some players along the way. After season 2 wrapped in 2019, actor Orlando Jones (who played Mr. Nancy, a.k.a. African trickster god Anansi) had a very public falling-out with the show. As EW reported at the time, Jones accused Eglee and Starz of breaking promises to him and claiming that Mr. Nancy sent the "wrong message for Black America."
Gaiman, who has never held firing power on American Gods, still isn't completely sure what happened with Jones, but points out that some characters were meant to come in and out of the story as it progressed, as they do in the novel.
"In the book, Mr. Nancy disappears for quite a whole from the plot, and then turns up surprisingly at the end," Gaiman says. "That was the original plan. It was not the way it went down. I was very much looking forward to him coming back at the end and was really disappointed that that isn't how it worked out. I would still love to see him back in season 4, because that's when everything's being done."
As American Gods viewers and creators wait to find out if the show will continue, there are two paths forward for the divine saga. Without another season, American Gods would end on one of the most aggravating cliffhangers of all time. Not only is the protagonist dead, but just as Shadow had started to believe in his destiny and the righteousness of his father's cause, he realized it was all a trick.
All along, Wednesday has been manipulating events to lead precisely to Shadow's lethal vigil, because that blood sacrifice has now returned Wednesday to his full power as the Norse god Odin. Never trust a conman!
"If we don't get a season 4, we've ended on the single most frustrating, upsetting and maddening place that any season could possibly end," Gaiman says.
CREDIT: STARZ
And also, in the event of a season 4, American Gods would finally be able to tackle the conflict it has been teasing since the beginning: A war between the Old Gods like Odin and the New Gods like Mr. World (Crispin Glover). But even that may not go down the way you think. Eagle-eyed fans of the book may understand the importance of Mr. World taking on other forms this season and being played by other actors like Dominique Jackson and Danny Trejo.
"It makes me incredibly happy to see Crispin Glover again," Gaiman says. "We wanted to set up some things about Mr. World. In order to do that, we needed you to be able to watch Mr. World taking on other identities as Mr. World, which then hopefully set up for some big reveals in season 4."
And beyond that...? Could there be a future for American Gods even after season 4 (or "season war," as this reporter referred to it in an uncanny malapropism)? Gaiman has, after all, always intended to write a sequel.
"We definitely wrap the novel in season 4," Gaiman says. "But it is open-ended, in that with each of the showrunners, I've had to sit down and say, 'okay, this is the plot of the next American Gods book, which I have not yet written, but you need to know this, because you need to know that these characters are important, and you need to know that this thing leads to that thing. So all three of them, bless their hearts, have done things to set that up, if we ever get there."
Gaiman continues, "but also, having watched the George R.R. Martin of it, I will be perfectly happy for American Gods to stop for five years, so I can write another novel they could then use for inspiration and start again if people are still interested."
For now, the future is still unwritten.
The author of the show's source material discusses the "frustrating, upsetting and maddening" cliffhanger as war approaches in an uncertain future.
By Christian Holub
March 22, 2021 at 11:18 AM EDT
Warning: This article contains spoilers about Sunday's season finale of American Gods.
Never trust a conman. Just when you start to believe for real, you'll realize you were being played all along.
American Gods has been a long and winding road. After a critically acclaimed first season overseen by Bryan Fuller and Michael Green and a more uneven second season following their ouster, season 3 finally hit some of the major plot points in Neil Gaiman's original novel by the time the season finale wrapped on Sunday. Not only did Shadow Moon (Ricky Whittle) finally make it to Lakeside, the frozen Midwestern town with more than a few dark secrets hidden beneath the surface of its icy lake, but by the end of the season he was literally dead.
In a one-two punch for the ages, American Gods killed off its two main characters in the final episodes of season 3. Episode 9, "The Lake Effect," ended with Mr. Wednesday (Ian McShane) getting struck down by his own legendary spear Gungnir, inspiring Shadow to hold vigil for his fallen father in episode 10, "Tears of the Wrath-Bearing Tree." But hanging from the branches of the world tree Yggdrasil (as Norse ritual dictates for a god's funeral) is too much for any mortal to endure, and the season ended with Shadow perishing on the tree.
"Episodes 9 and 10 are a couple of my favorite episodes of the whole of American Gods. It's like all of the ravens come home to roost," Gaiman tells EW. "This is where lots of things that were set up in season 1, and even some things set up in season 2, this is where they all come in and land. At the end of episode 10, we know and Shadow knows what's going on. So we're very, very much back in the book."
It's a climactic cliffhanger, especially thrilling since American Gods has not yet been officially picked up for season 4 by Starz. Remarkably, each season has had a different showrunner at the helm, with Gaiman serving as executive producer and consulting with each one (aided by his own experience as a showrunner of Amazon's Good Omens). But for once, Gaiman says it "would be lovely" to have season 3 showrunner Charles "Chic" H. Eglee stay on for another season, if the renewal happens.
"I would love that continuity. I sigh deeply when I learn that somebody else has left, because it means that I'm going to have to start again at the beginning with somebody, and that is literally the last thing that any of us want," Gaiman says. "But on the good side, it means that I've made a lot of friends that I wouldn't have made otherwise. I put a lot of things into the stew in the beginning, and so did Bryan and Michael. Jesse put some stuff into the stew. And now Chic has actually sort of stirred it and spiced it and is serving the stew to perfection."
CREDIT: STARZ
Gaiman continues, "I think season 1 was fabulous, but it tended to become almost an anthology show. There was the Laura episode, and the Easter episode. One of the things I love about season 3 is it doesn't really do that. You remember high points and low points, but mostly it becomes a driving story that gets you through and a story in which Ricky Whittle as Shadow Moon finally steps into his role."
Unfortunately, because American Gods has been a bumpy ride, it has lost some players along the way. After season 2 wrapped in 2019, actor Orlando Jones (who played Mr. Nancy, a.k.a. African trickster god Anansi) had a very public falling-out with the show. As EW reported at the time, Jones accused Eglee and Starz of breaking promises to him and claiming that Mr. Nancy sent the "wrong message for Black America."
Gaiman, who has never held firing power on American Gods, still isn't completely sure what happened with Jones, but points out that some characters were meant to come in and out of the story as it progressed, as they do in the novel.
"In the book, Mr. Nancy disappears for quite a whole from the plot, and then turns up surprisingly at the end," Gaiman says. "That was the original plan. It was not the way it went down. I was very much looking forward to him coming back at the end and was really disappointed that that isn't how it worked out. I would still love to see him back in season 4, because that's when everything's being done."
As American Gods viewers and creators wait to find out if the show will continue, there are two paths forward for the divine saga. Without another season, American Gods would end on one of the most aggravating cliffhangers of all time. Not only is the protagonist dead, but just as Shadow had started to believe in his destiny and the righteousness of his father's cause, he realized it was all a trick.
All along, Wednesday has been manipulating events to lead precisely to Shadow's lethal vigil, because that blood sacrifice has now returned Wednesday to his full power as the Norse god Odin. Never trust a conman!
"If we don't get a season 4, we've ended on the single most frustrating, upsetting and maddening place that any season could possibly end," Gaiman says.
CREDIT: STARZ
And also, in the event of a season 4, American Gods would finally be able to tackle the conflict it has been teasing since the beginning: A war between the Old Gods like Odin and the New Gods like Mr. World (Crispin Glover). But even that may not go down the way you think. Eagle-eyed fans of the book may understand the importance of Mr. World taking on other forms this season and being played by other actors like Dominique Jackson and Danny Trejo.
"It makes me incredibly happy to see Crispin Glover again," Gaiman says. "We wanted to set up some things about Mr. World. In order to do that, we needed you to be able to watch Mr. World taking on other identities as Mr. World, which then hopefully set up for some big reveals in season 4."
And beyond that...? Could there be a future for American Gods even after season 4 (or "season war," as this reporter referred to it in an uncanny malapropism)? Gaiman has, after all, always intended to write a sequel.
"We definitely wrap the novel in season 4," Gaiman says. "But it is open-ended, in that with each of the showrunners, I've had to sit down and say, 'okay, this is the plot of the next American Gods book, which I have not yet written, but you need to know this, because you need to know that these characters are important, and you need to know that this thing leads to that thing. So all three of them, bless their hearts, have done things to set that up, if we ever get there."
Gaiman continues, "but also, having watched the George R.R. Martin of it, I will be perfectly happy for American Gods to stop for five years, so I can write another novel they could then use for inspiration and start again if people are still interested."
For now, the future is still unwritten.
American Gods canceled at Starz after 3 seasons
The network is in conversations on a potential event series or event movie that would conclude the storytelling of Neil Gaiman's book of the same name.
By Lauren Huff
March 29, 2021 at 11:11 PM EDT
American Gods has ended its journey as a series at Starz.
The network canceled the show after three seasons, EW can confirm. "American Gods will not return for a fourth season. Everyone at STARZ is grateful to the dedicated cast and crew, and our partners at Fremantle who brought author and executive producer Neil Gaiman's ever-relevant story to life that speaks to the cultural climate of our country," a Starz spokesperson said in a statement to EW.
The decision to cancel the fantasy drama series comes amid low viewership for the season and just a week after the season 3 finale. Multiplatform viewership declined 65 percent from American Gods season 1 to season 3, according to sources.
The show has had a long and tumultuous journey, with four different showrunners tapped across the three seasons, various production delays, and a public falling out with star Orlando Jones, among other things.
The cancelation news is sure to upset fans, because as Gaiman put it in a recent interview with EW, "If we don't get a season 4, we've ended on the single most frustrating, upsetting and maddening place that any season could possibly end."
To that end, viewers could be in luck. Per sources, the network is in conversations on a potential event series or event movie that would conclude the storytelling of Gaiman's book of the same name.
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The network is in conversations on a potential event series or event movie that would conclude the storytelling of Neil Gaiman's book of the same name.
By Lauren Huff
March 29, 2021 at 11:11 PM EDT
American Gods has ended its journey as a series at Starz.
The network canceled the show after three seasons, EW can confirm. "American Gods will not return for a fourth season. Everyone at STARZ is grateful to the dedicated cast and crew, and our partners at Fremantle who brought author and executive producer Neil Gaiman's ever-relevant story to life that speaks to the cultural climate of our country," a Starz spokesperson said in a statement to EW.
The decision to cancel the fantasy drama series comes amid low viewership for the season and just a week after the season 3 finale. Multiplatform viewership declined 65 percent from American Gods season 1 to season 3, according to sources.
The show has had a long and tumultuous journey, with four different showrunners tapped across the three seasons, various production delays, and a public falling out with star Orlando Jones, among other things.
The cancelation news is sure to upset fans, because as Gaiman put it in a recent interview with EW, "If we don't get a season 4, we've ended on the single most frustrating, upsetting and maddening place that any season could possibly end."
To that end, viewers could be in luck. Per sources, the network is in conversations on a potential event series or event movie that would conclude the storytelling of Gaiman's book of the same name.
'American Gods' canceled at Starz after 3 seasons
The network is in conversations on a potential event series or event movie that would conclude the storytelling of Neil Gaiman's book of the same name.
