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Who says it? The scene before that is them talking about Black Widow. After that there is a debate about who will use the stones. Again I could have missed it but there is no discussion about bringing people back safely.
yeah the mephisto leak could be just a red herring
yeah marvel is well known for producing fake trailers and scenes to prevent spoiler leaks.sometimes they even give the actors themselves fake scripts
.... And all of those youfubeds dont know what the hell they are talking about. I have no time for their speculation.
Yeah but those are halloween costumes and that look ks outdated by 3 decades. It was lazy of marvel to not give her an actual uniform post avengers age of ultron.
lol at how costumes that looks cool in the comics look stupid in live action
tony or cap, but i dont think its before Hulk snaps. i think its said before they time travel.
True that. Im no comic book guru but some of their speculation be way the fuck out there.
There are a few things we can be certain of. The fact is we have multiple stories with multiple possible endings/resolutions. I'm talking about at least 10 characters each with several possible outcomes/explanations.
Seems to me, that anything that could tie it all together in the last 3 episodes is the most likely event. Strange could show up to save the day, possibly by teaching Wanda how to defeat the big bad which hasn't been identified yet. Pretty sure Hayward is a baddie but might not be the big one, maybe he gets hit with the barrier and turns into one. Who knows?
Fairly sure whoever Monica's "guy" is, he'll be a *minor* superhero, not Reed Richards. However, we know Marvel likes to give lowkey intros to characters that become major as time goes by, like Hayward and whoever the guy is, they'll likely become bigger players in the future.
We have to remember that TV and movies are not the same for actors. Not every actor can do both, so we may not need everybody to crossover to the movies, meaning not all the characters may be essential and are in effect just distractions.
Seems to me, that anything that could tie it all together in the last 3 episodes is the most likely event. Strange could show up to save the day, possibly by teaching Wanda how to defeat the big bad which hasn't been identified yet. Pretty sure Hayward is a baddie but might not be the big one, maybe he gets hit with the barrier and turns into one. Who knows?
Fairly sure whoever Monica's "guy" is, he'll be a *minor* superhero, not Reed Richards. However, we know Marvel likes to give lowkey intros to characters that become major as time goes by, like Hayward and whoever the guy is, they'll likely become bigger players in the future.
We have to remember that TV and movies are not the same for actors. Not every actor can do both, so we may not need everybody to crossover to the movies, meaning not all the characters may be essential and are in effect just distractions.
I don't think so. The closes scene would be just before the Hulk does the snap. Tony says something about not changing anything but never says anything about bringing back anyone safely. I could be wrong but I think that is the scene you two are referencing.
i haven't watched it in a while, but i know there was a scene where they were discussing bringing everyone back. not sure if the word "safely" was used. could have been when they went to visit tony at the cabin, i dont know. but again, "safely" doesn't ring a bell.
Yeah, I went back and watched it. Almost 2 hours in, before Hulk snaps Tony tells him to restore everyone Thanos snapped and don't change anything in the last 5 years. Hulk says "everybody comes home" and then snaps.
Later on Hulk says he really tried to bring Widow back but couldn't.
They did.
She was a subtle Goth chick all along. You were just looking for a similar costume to the Scarlet Witch. Marvel decidedly DID NOT go with the name, to do their own thing and it's working.
They even made reference to the knickname in Wandavision by saying she doesn't have a codename.
I don't know if Hayward is a true villain. From his perspective he is eliminating a potential threat in Wanda and as of the last episode is being proven to be right. His solution to the problem differs from Monica but it isn't completely wrong. We don't know what happened during the time of the blip to make him take this hard stance however his issue seems to be protecting non super-powered people from super-powered people at the end of the day or he dislikes super-poweredpeople in general. He could be bad but I think he is just another distraction. Maybe we are supposed to believe he and the scientists are a rouge part of Sword or Hydra agents.
The new element we don't know is what SWORD was really doing with Vision's body and why Hayward seemed to be interested in Vision. It was hard to see in the scene but it looks like Vision's body was taken apart and was being studied. Given that Vision was not supposed to be used as a weapon and technically Vision's body/corpse was being desecrated, this could have been one of the things that triggered Wanda and made her protective to the point of not allowing Vision or the kids to leave her area.
Also, I don't remember them showing what happened to the bee keeper Sword agent. Maybe Wanda just temporarily sent him back to the sewer and he was still able to provide information.
I think Hayward has already shown himself to be reckless and fanatic at the very least. The people know what happened from the snaps, why would anybody be against superheroes who brought back their loved ones and saved the universe? Yeah, he probably has some twisted perspective on the issue and that's what makes him a definite antagonist and possible future baddie.
No, we don't know what SWORD is up to but we also haven't seen Fury or SWORD in the movies. We first saw SWORD on the post-credits in Spidey 2 and we'll undoubtedly see more of them and their history, purpose, and why this wacko has control of them.
I think Darcy speculated that the beekeeper was turned into a citizen of the town, I know his tether turned into a jump rope, I think. One of those "explain it" videos goes into it.
As of now, there are 5 characters whose arcs will definitely continue into the movies - Wanda, Darcy, Hayward, Jimmy, Monica. 3 maybes - Agnes/Agatha, Tommy, Billy. 2 unlikely but you never know - Pietro, Vision.
Of course, a new character can, and probably will be introduced because the most likely scenario is someone is either controlling or tricking Wanda. And in that case most of the storylines don't have to be explained or resolved. I'm thinking that way because 3 episodes is a very short time to conclude all the plot lines.
The real mindblower would be if both Vision and Aaron Taylor-Johnson came from an alternate universe. Fans absolutely LOVE the relationship between Wanda and Vision and Wanda and Pietro.
I was watching this episode with my kid.(21) He has not watched, nor is really interested, in the series- (or really, the MCU for that matter)
So, I was explaining to him that the the commercials are "fake" and likely have ties to Wanda's past and her present situation-
He points out that the shark literally says, when asked what he did about his past hunger; " snacked on YO MAGIC bro"
I was like
that's just the name of.... but.... he just meant the yogurt.... didn't he?..... 
...............
So, I rewound it and played the commercial again.
I know they don't do anything by accident on this show. So, I'm more convinced than ever that this is more than just Wanda going crazy or being stricken with grief.
The shark (an apex predator) says: "Hungry? I remember hungry. I used to be like that all the time" Then says he snacked on her magic..
I think that is more than just reinforcing the fact that Vision and quicksilver are surviving on Wanda's magic. They were just dead before she brought them back, not hungry. I believe it is referring to a predator preying on Wanda and feeding off her. For what it's worth, the kid has on red in the commercial, and the shark is grey and white.......
I think something is up with Quicksilver. To get a little meta with it, why wouldn't Marvel just use the same actor from Age of Ultron? I don't think they would have cast the guy they did just to be cute.
Also, one of the movies on the marquis was the parent trap where two twins from "different worlds" switch places....
Don't know exactly what it means yet, but concerning Pietro, he seems to know at least as much about this whole situation as Wanda does. For example; he was dead when Vision was killed, so how does he know about it? I think he's someone else- someone from a "different world" but maybe not really her brother.
maybe I'm looking too deep into it
but again, they do NOTHING by accident.excited to see exactly how this plays out over the next three episodes.
I will edit this to add that I don't know if they really need to tie all these loose threads up neatly by the end of the last TV show episode- of course there has to be some resolution, but the bad guy could "get away" like in the comics, or Wanda could end up being the villain or whatever and the story can be picked up/resolved in other movies/TV shows.
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Can some explain Decaying vibranium signal?
It's not necessarily heroes he may have an issue with but super-powered people in general. The blip was caused by super-powered beings and outside of the blip civilians have been caught in fights between heroes and villains. It could be argued that what he did was reckless, but we haven't seen anything that would clearly make him fanatical yet. The only thing we have been shown is that he was dismissive of Wanda's time with the Avengers due to her history with Hydra. Hayward doesn't view her as a hero due to her time with Hydra and her killing/hurting civilian in the past. Taking the town hostage is further proof that she hasn't changed even as a member of the Avengers including stealing the body of Vision from a secret lab.
Sounds like the vibranium gives off a level of radioactivity that they're using to trace Vision's whereabouts
It’s literally taking bits and pieces of house of m... bringing vision back from the dead, having 2 kids out of nowhere, lot of people suffering from memory loss, or not having full control, a fake world being created.. these are all pieces from the house of m comic book
Hope not because that would’ve made it detectable for years.
Bro, you must be the only one missing it. There are literally dozens of pages and videos detailing Hayward's actions and evil intent. The fact that Monica remarked that SWORD used to observe and now they're weaponizing was a huge egg and that was back in ep 3 or 4.
Just a couple:
'WandaVision': "Cataract" reveals Hayward and SWORD's evil plan
What's "CATARACT" in Marvel? A lot happened in 'WandaVision' Episode 6, but one subtle clue may have finally explained what's going on in Westview.
WandaVision: Why Hayward May Secretly Be the Disney+ Show's Big Bad
WandaVision's Director Hayward is desperate to cast Wanda as a terroristic villain, antagonizing her and controlling the narrative.
www.cbr.com
The problem with focusing on the comics is people forget the MCU is an adaption and the comics are a source material. Using House of M as the example there aren't any Mutants in the MCU as of yet.
I'm not saying don't use comics for the base of theories. I'm saying people should use the MCU as there overall base to keep them centered. For example, saying Agnes may be Agatha Harkness is fine. Agnes seems to share some characteristics to the comic version even if it's just a name. Then there was the theory of Agnes being from Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse because Kathryn Hahn played Doc. Ock in that movie. While not impossible it is a reach.
Given that Wanda does have a history in the comics about being possessed, I get thinking her character is being influenced by an outside power. I even understood believing the kids are linked to Mephisto. It would make sense for these things to be linked to the Dr.Strange movie as well. Then there was a theory that all of the towns people were died and resurrected by Wanda. Yes, something similar happened in the comics, but it's unlikely especially given the events of the last episode.
Infinity Wars and Civil War only used the premise of the comic storyline. So far, the only thing we have been shown is a woman with powers to warp reality who may have mental health issues even if it's just high level depression. At best we are also seeing a continuation of people fearing super-powered people or wanting to hold them accountable like in the films.Both are also a part of the comic book history and is seemingly the core of the story that we can clearly see. To me, they are using Wanda's history of mental illness as the base of the story. Having Wanda being tricked deludes that story. She isn't a woman who is struggling with mental health as much as a victim of someone taking advantage of her pain. In the end, this story still fits into Dr.Strange wanting to stop the changing of reality by Wanda.
It could turn out that Wanda choice to base her world around tv sitcoms was as simple as them being innocent happy go lucky family oriented places without the violence and depression she is use to in the real world and not being influenced by some higher level mastermind.
Like always in the event I'm wrong I have no issues saying so in the future.there are three episodes left that hopefully won't carry over to much into another movie/TV show.So we will have answers soon.
WandaVision: The Sitcom Influences of Episode 6
WandaVision jumps right into the early 2000s in episode 6 to pay homage to the fourth wall-breaking Malcolm in the Middle.
www.denofgeek.com
The ‘WandaVision’ Episode 6 Intro Is Its Best Spoof Yet
You're not the boss of me now. Well, maybe Wanda Maximoff is.
WandaVision Conjures a Note-Perfect Malcolm in the Middle Homage
The latest episode of WandaVision offers up a perfect pastiche of early 2000s sitcoms with its Malcolm in the Middle inspired escapades.
www.cbr.com
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You do realize those articles rehash what I've already said right? The key difference being they are labeling Hayward a villain or evil.You are reading are other people's interpretation of the events that have been shown. My opinion or the opinions in the articles have not been established as facts yet.
Again, nothing has been clearly shown to prove he has evil intent. I'm not saying that isn't a possibility. Potentially building weapons or wanting to kill Wanda who is clearly a threat does not make him evil outright. If that is the case, Nick Fury is evil for some of his actions in the MCU.in the Avengers was the Agency that wanted to bomb New York evil?
Like I said before, there is no reason to believe Hayward's dislike/hate is just for heroes. Hayward may be similar in nature to General Ross. What we do known is that there are parties in the MCU that don't necessarily view the heroes actions as heroic. Vision's skills seem to be unpar with them or super-powered people in general. Hayward's goal could be to reprogram Vision as an agent for Sword or build and army of Visions to eliminate the need to rely on heroes they cant order around and protect citizens from super-powered beings in general. Being a villian for me would be Hayward using Vision or copies to hunt down and kill super-powered people out of fear. This or something similar could happen, but we haven't gotten there yet.
Pietro: I heard you needed help so I came to help you
in house of m Pietro is the 1 that saved scarlet when they was gonna kill her and she created the warp universe for the mutants
another connection to the house of m
oh yeah since this will tie into dr strange movie.. in house of m dr strange had a big role into trying to reverse the spell.. like I said house of m bits and pieces all over this
I cant wait to find out why SWORD was studying Vision.
Its not like he was made of some unknown technology.
Its not like he was made of some unknown technology.
lol at how costumes that looks cool in the comics look stupid in live action
Wanda's doesn't actually look as stupid as one would think.
Why do you keep saying it is linked to House of M? I never said it wasn't. We all know Wandavision is an adaption of that story. Being an adaption doesn't mean the events in the MCU will be similar to the events in the comics.
If you are just saying cool, but im fully aware that elements from the comics are being used in Wandavision and the MCU in general.
Whatever (if any) powers they give Darcy I'm hoping that her costume is one that prominently displays them titties
I think they're about to get her a uniform other than that goth look she was wearing...
Look at the TV placements... just beneath her head and where the rest of her body would be there's what looks to be a uniform of sorts
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