Yvette Carnell mad at Sandy Darity for including diaspora in reparations

If you're interested in discussing the article, then there is a separate thread on it already: https://www.bgol.us/forum/threads/t...for-america-too-american-for-nigeria.1120575/
i dont need to go into ur bullshit anti-black thread, answer the simple questions here in this thread!

did u read it ? YES OR NO ?

pls tell us since u read it & r trying to reference it to prove ur point !

what does the article say ?


we're waiting
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and yes they are russian trolls ! its been proven their whole movement was setup to bleed the black votes!
its been verified and proven even malcolm nance did an expose on them , thats what Joy Reid was referencing when she did her expose alongside Angela Rye& Roland martin and thats why they all swarmed and attacked them like useful russian sheep in service to their white supremacist puppet masters! they have no original thoughts ! they were easily co-opted !





Yvette ,Tone & the whole #ados movement is a Judas goat movement

From Russia with Love............Darkkman says we're GOP though. Geechie............I don't even know if geechie knows what he thinks anymore. Something along the lines of we "vote Democratic so we can laugh at Democrats but we support Repub......."............fuck it, who knows at this point.

Why can't you guys find a narrative and stick to it?
 
i dont need to go into ur bullshit anti-black thread, answer the simple questions here in this thread!

did u read it ? YES OR NO ?

pls tell us since u read it & r trying to reference it to prove ur point !

what does the article say ?

If you want to know what the article says, then you should read it yourself. If you're blocked by the NYT paywall, then the full text is posted in the other thread I referenced.

I read this excerpt as well:

"What gave our diaspora shape wasn’t so much racism, slavery, or the contrastive presence of white Americans. It was the more pressing reality of Black Americans. American blacks inevitably became the topic and the source of most arguments. If Black Americans often seemed fixated on white America, black immigrants seemed fixated on Black America, as if it were the wall between them and the promises of this country. Sometimes the conversation began by someone fresh to the country discussing problems they were having with a coworker, or a schoolmate, or an unruly neighbor. Before questions were asked, the seasoned veterans would share a smirk of recognition, knowing that the person being complained about was not white. It was time to school the newcomer on what really went on in this America and that there were two Americas, two distinct regimes of pain and promise."​
"Things would usually begin with the newcomer asking a familiar but always loaded question, What is wrong with Black Americans? Occasionally, one of us young cousins would attempt to defend or explain those Black Americans to our elders since we were the ones who knew them best and spent most of our time in the crucible of assimilation. These attempts were inappropriate for interrelated reasons. First, we were not to speak back to our elders, a sure sign that we were assimilating in the wrong direction. Second, in speaking on behalf of African Americans, we inevitably slipped into their dialect, which was enough to invalidate our opinions and earn a cuff to the head."​
 
If you want to know what the article says, then you should read it yourself. If you're blocked by the NYT paywall, then the full text is posted in the other thread I referenced.

I read this excerpt as well:

"What gave our diaspora shape wasn’t so much racism, slavery, or the contrastive presence of white Americans. It was the more pressing reality of Black Americans. American blacks inevitably became the topic and the source of most arguments. If Black Americans often seemed fixated on white America, black immigrants seemed fixated on Black America, as if it were the wall between them and the promises of this country. Sometimes the conversation began by someone fresh to the country discussing problems they were having with a coworker, or a schoolmate, or an unruly neighbor. Before questions were asked, the seasoned veterans would share a smirk of recognition, knowing that the person being complained about was not white. It was time to school the newcomer on what really went on in this America and that there were two Americas, two distinct regimes of pain and promise."​
"Things would usually begin with the newcomer asking a familiar but always loaded question, What is wrong with Black Americans? Occasionally, one of us young cousins would attempt to defend or explain those Black Americans to our elders since we were the ones who knew them best and spent most of our time in the crucible of assimilation. These attempts were inappropriate for interrelated reasons. First, we were not to speak back to our elders, a sure sign that we were assimilating in the wrong direction. Second, in speaking on behalf of African Americans, we inevitably slipped into their dialect, which was enough to invalidate our opinions and earn a cuff to the head."​
its okay im a paid NYT subscriber!

and its just as i thought !! u didnt read the book ,
u only read the excerpts with a desire to scum diving & pick parts u can then use to reinterprete to bolster ur narrative !

u arent as smart as u think u are!



this is just like when foxnews picks a couple lines from an excerpt in Barack Obama's book where he talks about growing up in indonesia and hearing the morning muslim prayers and all of a sudden "he grew up in a muslim radical antiwestern madrassa!" :roflmao:



ure very predictable and quiet boring !
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and what does that article have to do with REPARATIONS?

where does it highlight a powerful cabal of black immigrants or black americans with some recent foreign black ancestry fighting against REPARATIONS for "african american descendants of americas enslaved africans" ?

show me the page , and cliff notes to the provable sources where they operate from, ... afterall, this is all about REPARATIONS right ?
 
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its okay im a paid NYT subscriber!

and its just as i thought !! u didnt read the book ,
u only read the excerpts with a desire to scum diving & pick parts u can then use to reinterprete to bolster ur narrative !

u arent as smart as u think u are!



this is just like when foxnews picks a couple lines from an excerpt in Barack Obama's book where he talks about growing up in indonesia and hearing the morning muslim prayers and all of a sudden "he grew up in a muslim radical antiwestern madrassa!" :roflmao:



ure very predictable and quiet boring !

So the articles and excerpts don’t prove a level of prejudice directed at Black Americans from these immigrants? Along with a desire to ingratiate themselves with white Americans? Even when the writers say so themselves?
 
So the articles and excerpts don’t prove a level of prejudice directed at Black Americans from these immigrants? Along with a desire to ingratiate themselves with white Americans? Even when the writers say so themselves?
YOU DID NOT READ THE BOOK !!!

ANSWER THE QUESTIONS

what does that article have to do with REPARATIONS?

WHERE does it highlight a powerful cabal of black immigrants or black americans with some recent foreign black ancestry fighting against REPARATIONS for "african american descendants of americas enslaved africans" ?

show me the page , and cliff notes to the provable sources where they operate from, ... afterall, this is all about REPARATIONS right ?
 
From Russia with Love............Darkkman says we're GOP though. Geechie............I don't even know if geechie knows what he thinks anymore. Something along the lines of we "vote Democratic so we can laugh at Democrats but we support Repub......."............fuck it, who knows at this point.

Why can't you guys find a narrative and stick to it?
more like you vote democratic but call black people stupid for voting democratic..but you won't vote at the top of ticket because thats somehow leverage over democrats when all it does is allow republican candidates to get in at POTUS but you KNOW the republicans arent going to do anything either but we showed those democrats by golly!...or some such nonsense like that.. :rolleyes2: :rolleyes2: :rolleyes2:

Let me be clear: I don’t expect Republicans to offer legitimate solutions to remedy the ills of American slavery. But Democrats should not rest on their laurels on the assumption ADOS have no other political options. On the contrary, ADOS and all of Black America have the option of withholding our votes from the top of the ticket.

I ask you to explain how that actually makes a difference?

you can withhold your vote from the top of the ticket but in reality, you're STILL only dealing with one of the two major parties. So let's say more blacks withheld their vote at the top of the ticket and trump got re-elected...you tell me how well that would have boded for the black community??

and you dodge the question....

If Trump had won re-election, how would that have worked out for AMERICA?

I re-ask the question...

but we're not talking about america we're talking about ADOS...

you dodge again...

AMERICAN Descendants of Slavery. But your response low-key exposes your true mentality on this issue. You regard the interests and advancement of Black Americans as being apart from, or antithetical to, the overall advancement of America.

This is how white supremacists think as well.

:rolleyes2::rolleyes2::rolleyes2::rolleyes2:

no I don't I'm asking you how would the black community have fared under a trump re-election....you can single out obama for all kinds of fucked up shit thats specific to black people but when asked about trump now suddenly its about AMERICA...

nigga please :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: EXPOSED!

HOW. WOULD. THE. BLACK COMMUNITY. HAVE. FAIRED. UNDER. A. RE-ELECTED TRUMP ADMINISTRATION?
you finally answer but just won't come out and say it would suck...like you would if it were about Obama....

But I shouldn't be able to single out the Obama Administration for "all kinds of fucked up shit." 90% of us voted for him. "All kinds of fucked up shit" shouldn't have been happening to us during his reign.

But as far as Black America under Trump, you can use his first four years as a gauge as to how his second administration would pan out: https://www.vox.com/21524499/what-trump-has-done-for-black-people
but that reminds me you DIDN'T answer these questions....

I keep asking name a viable 3rd party that blacks should be supporting and I get no answer.

okay heres are easier questions:

BETWEEN THE TWO PARTIES DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN...IN YOUR ESTIMATION WHICH PARTY IS LIKELIER TO ADVANCE THE CAUSE OF REPARATIONS FOR ADOS AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE?

BETWEEN LEFT WING AND RIGHTWING...
IN YOUR ESTIMATION WHICH SIDE OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM IS LIKELIER TO ADVANCE THE CAUSE OF REPARATIONS FOR ADOS AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE?

HOW DOES NOT VOTNG FOR THE TOP OF THE TICKET INFLUENCE OR ADVANCE THE CAUSE OF REPARATIONS?

WHAT'S YOUR HONEST ESTIMATION AND TIMELINE FOR GETTING REPARATIONS DONE?? HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WILL TAKE?

surely carnell or tone or darity has some thoughts you could post that would answer these??
 
This is usually the point in literally every BGOL "discussion" where VAiz4Trump pivots to cut and paste an off-topic 15,000 word essay from Sandy Darity but now.... but... but... AWKWARD! :o

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They want you fighting in the made up confusion, if they don't drag u into their scummy mirage they can't operate,

when u force them to stand in the light of honest intellectual discourse they will try throwing stones to hide their hands! They wither in the light
 
They want you fighting in the made up confusion, if they don't drag u into their scummy mirage they can't operate, status status.

when u force them to stand in the light of honest intellectual discourse they will try throwing stones to hide their hands! They wither in the light
Damn shame how his usual cosigners have all abandoned ship like the cowardly rats they are and just left VAiz4Trump here to twist in the wind. Check out the Caribbean LGBT activists thread and notice how many posts QueenT has made just over the last hour.

Kinda like that graveyard thread created because some white man promised they could keep 100% of a nonexistent "Platinum" check - but now that the election is over, the idiots are no longer useful. Or like the grifting "leaders" who, now that they've achieved their coveted 501c status, are now demanding monthly payments from the sheep to "prove" their Blackness...
 
The funny thing is they attack other black cultures then ask them to support their non-existent plight for reparations. What kinda strategy is that?
You a straig
Lol start at the 7 min mark. She found out she is 34% European.
You fucking dumbass. You getting paid for this? Are you some kind of professional moron? God you're slow as fuck and I don't even LIKE yvette. Your read of the results of that dna test is pure "medical" idiot.
 
This is usually the point in literally every BGOL "discussion" where VAiz4Trump pivots to cut and paste an off-topic 15,000 word essay from Sandy Darity but now.... but... but... AWKWARD! :o


Yet you insist on tagging me in posts and then running!!!

:lol:
 
Damn shame how his usual cosigners have all abandoned ship like the cowardly rats they are and just left VAiz4Trump here to twist in the wind. Check out the Caribbean LGBT activists thread and notice how many posts QueenT has made just over the last hour.

Kinda like that graveyard thread created because some white man promised they could keep 100% of a nonexistent "Platinum" check - but now that the election is over, the idiots are no longer useful. Or like the grifting "leaders" who, now that they've achieved their coveted 501c status, are now demanding monthly payments from the sheep to "prove" their Blackness...

Best believe, it doesn’t take much to debate you silly muhfuggas, so I don’t need help. Most, like mcguyver, have already run from me. And NONE of you have ever dared to step to the mic against me. Gene and Soul have already made it clear that they’re gonna lay in the cut and just watch the excuses y’all make for Biden and the Dems this year. KT and xfactor stay exposing you and your agenda. So we’re good here.
 
You a straig

You fucking dumbass. You getting paid for this? Are you some kind of professional moron? God you're slow as fuck and I don't even LIKE yvette. Your read of the results of that dna test is pure "medical" idiot.

Best believe, his IQ is on the far left side of the bell curve.
 
more like you vote democratic but call black people stupid for voting democratic..but you won't vote at the top of ticket because thats somehow leverage over democrats when all it does is allow republican candidates to get in at POTUS but you KNOW the republicans arent going to do anything either but we showed those democrats by golly!...or some such nonsense like that.. :rolleyes2: :rolleyes2: :rolleyes2:



I ask you to explain how that actually makes a difference?



and you dodge the question....



I re-ask the question...



you dodge again...



:rolleyes2::rolleyes2::rolleyes2::rolleyes2:


you finally answer but just won't come out and say it would suck...like you would if it were about Obama....


but that reminds me you DIDN'T answer these questions....



surely carnell or tone or darity has some thoughts you could post that would answer these??

I have previously demonstrated WITH STATISTICS how black people economically suffered under Obama. And Clinton. So let’s have that conversation before we talk about the hypothetical “what-ifs” of a second Trump administration. Your denial about the former is part of the problem.
 
YOU DID NOT READ THE BOOK !!!

ANSWER THE QUESTIONS

what does that article have to do with REPARATIONS?

WHERE does it highlight a powerful cabal of black immigrants or black americans with some recent foreign black ancestry fighting against REPARATIONS for "african american descendants of americas enslaved africans" ?

show me the page , and cliff notes to the provable sources where they operate from, ... afterall, this is all about REPARATIONS right ?

Reparations are part of the greater whole. We need to carve y’all out of us as well. Like removing a malignant tumor. It’s a big part of what is distorting our political agenda right now. Obama and Harris are prime examples of this.

You and the rest of your goons on this forum are as well.
 
I have previously demonstrated WITH STATISTICS how black people economically suffered under Obama. And Clinton. So let’s have that conversation before we talk about the hypothetical “what-ifs” of a second Trump administration. Your denial about the former is part of the problem.
you already answered the question with trump AND provided a link to prove out your speculation: https://www.vox.com/21524499/what-trump-has-done-for-black-people
  • Trump passed a significant criminal justice reform measure, but his administration has worked to undo it
  • Black employment gains before the pandemic were real — but not the result of Trump’s presidential term
  • Trump’s claims on poverty don’t tell the full story of racial disparity
  • The mechanism for funding HBCUs has very little to do with Trump
All this adds up to is...a 2nd term for trump means nothing good for black americans.

The only reason trump even came up is because of ADOS organization strategy (YOUR strategy) of not voting the top of the ticket.... I don’t expect Republicans to offer legitimate solutions to remedy the ills of American slavery. But Democrats should not rest on their laurels on the assumption ADOS have no other political options. On the contrary, ADOS and all of Black America have the option of withholding our votes from the top of the ticket.

in the 2020 election..blacks withholding our vote for Biden only helps Trump so trump becomes president...this isn't hypothetical... its math, its process of elimination... fewer votes for biden can only help trump this is why reps have been trying to suppress the black vote on other ways:

The British outlet obtained the database used by Trump’s digital team in 2016, which includes details on nearly 200 million Americans.
According to the data, in 16 key battleground states, the Trump team separated millions of U.S. voters into eight categories, also described as “audiences” they could reach with tailored advertisements, and disproportionately marked Black Americans in a category labeled “Deterrence” for people it hoped wouldn’t show up to vote.

Nearly 3.5 million Black Americans were categorized under “Deterrence,” comprising 61% of the category in Georgia, despite making up 32% of the population in the state; 46% in North Carolina, where they made up 22% of the population; and 17% in Wisconsin, despite making up 5.4% of the population.


Per Channel 4 News, other minority groups also were disproportionately lumped into the category, with voters labeled as Black, Hispanic, Asian and “Other” comprising 54% of those listed under “Deterrence.”


Again the calculation here is obvious... less votes for biden helps trump.

So understanding that..why would a group ADOS supposedly advocating for ADOS people...tell them to withhold their vote from the top of the ticket while voting democratic down-ballot?

In hopes of achieving WHAT exactly??
 
So understanding that..why would a group ADOS supposedly advocating for ADOS people...tell them to withhold their vote from the top of the ticket while voting democratic down-ballot?

In hopes of achieving WHAT exactly??
I hopes of achieving that "check" from white overseers who had hoped to keep Black Americans divided and conquered just enough to help insure a second term for Trump. Notice how (in)active QueenT's ADOS101 thread has been since the election.

Meanwhile, Yvette and Tone got their payout *and* their 501c3 status to simplify unlimited grifting. And all the useful idiots got for spamming BGOL and other Black spaces was finding themselves on the wrong side of history.

"But... but... those Caribbean LGBT activists want to steal a slice of our nonexistent pie!"

No longer useful idiots tossed away like a crack whore's used tampon. On the wrong side of history.
 
you already answered the question with trump AND provided a link to prove out your speculation: https://www.vox.com/21524499/what-trump-has-done-for-black-people
  • Trump passed a significant criminal justice reform measure, but his administration has worked to undo it
  • Black employment gains before the pandemic were real — but not the result of Trump’s presidential term
  • Trump’s claims on poverty don’t tell the full story of racial disparity
  • The mechanism for funding HBCUs has very little to do with Trump
All this adds up to is...a 2nd term for trump means nothing good for black americans.

The only reason trump even came up is because of ADOS organization strategy (YOUR strategy) of not voting the top of the ticket.... I don’t expect Republicans to offer legitimate solutions to remedy the ills of American slavery. But Democrats should not rest on their laurels on the assumption ADOS have no other political options. On the contrary, ADOS and all of Black America have the option of withholding our votes from the top of the ticket.

in the 2020 election..blacks withholding our vote for Biden only helps Trump so trump becomes president...this isn't hypothetical... its math, its process of elimination... fewer votes for biden can only help trump this is why reps have been trying to suppress the black vote on other ways:

The British outlet obtained the database used by Trump’s digital team in 2016, which includes details on nearly 200 million Americans.
According to the data, in 16 key battleground states, the Trump team separated millions of U.S. voters into eight categories, also described as “audiences” they could reach with tailored advertisements, and disproportionately marked Black Americans in a category labeled “Deterrence” for people it hoped wouldn’t show up to vote.

Nearly 3.5 million Black Americans were categorized under “Deterrence,” comprising 61% of the category in Georgia, despite making up 32% of the population in the state; 46% in North Carolina, where they made up 22% of the population; and 17% in Wisconsin, despite making up 5.4% of the population.


Per Channel 4 News, other minority groups also were disproportionately lumped into the category, with voters labeled as Black, Hispanic, Asian and “Other” comprising 54% of those listed under “Deterrence.”


Again the calculation here is obvious... less votes for biden helps trump.

So understanding that..why would a group ADOS supposedly advocating for ADOS people...tell them to withhold their vote from the top of the ticket while voting democratic down-ballot?

In hopes of achieving WHAT exactly??

Now, let’s pull similar stats as they relate to WEALTH, employment, homeownership, incarceration, health outcomes and other indices as they relate to Black life in America under Clinton and Obama! Are you able to OBJECTIVELY analyzing both without tethering yourself to either party?
 
I hopes of achieving that "check" from white overseerers who hhad oped to keep Black Americans divided and conquered just enough to help insure a second term for Trump. Notice how (in)active QueenT's ADOS101 thread has been since the election.
Meanwhile, Yvette and Tone got their payout *and* their 501c3 status to simplify unlimited grifting. And all the useful idiots got for spamming BGOL and other Black spaces was finding themselves on the wrong side of history.

"But... but... those Carribean LGBT activists want a slice of our nonexistent pie!"

Thrown away like a crack whore's used tampon. On the wrong side of history.

Unlimited grifting? Who are they getting money from?
 
Now, let’s pull similar stats as they relate to WEALTH, employment, homeownership, incarceration, health outcomes and other indices as they relate to Black life in America under Clinton and Obama! Are you able to OBJECTIVELY analyzing both without tethering yourself to either party?
you didn't answer the question

So understanding that..why would a group ADOS supposedly advocating for ADOS people...tell them to withhold their vote from the top of the ticket while voting democratic down-ballot?

In hopes of achieving WHAT exactly??
 
Go pull the stats for Black people under the aforementioned presidents and you’ll have your answer.

Here’s a start:https://www.npr.org/sections/money/...us-about-the-persistence-of-racial-inequality
and trump as president in 2021 achieves this how?? becus clearly you expect to get SOMETHING out of 4 years in a presidency...you harp about us getting nothing under Obama and clinton...your link shows we got nothing under trump...yet you believe a second trump term would achieve accomplishments WEALTH, employment, homeownership, incarceration, health outcomes and other indices as they relate to Black life in America?

is that what you believe would happen...yes or no....if yes how? if no then why do it?
 
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and trump as president in 2021 achieves this how?? becus clearly you expect to get SOMETHING out of 4 years in a presidency...you harp about us getting nothing under Obama and clinton...your link shows we got nothing under trump...yet you believe a second trump term would achieve accomplishments WEALTH, employment, homeownership, incarceration, health outcomes and other indices as they relate to Black life in America?

is that what you believe would happen...yes or no....if yes how? if no then why do it?

Where did I say this would achieved under Trump? Or any other GOP president?

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Where did I say this would achieved under Trump? Or any other GOP president?
then why withold the vote from the top of ticket thus allowing them to become president

its sad and exposing how your AVOIDING answering this question directly its the 3rd time i've asked it.

this makes ADOS agenda suspect as fuck coming from you...I'll do this...you can use a lifeline...call one of your boys

@xfactor
@KingTaharqa
@Soul On Ice

you already answered the question with trump AND provided a link to prove out your speculation: https://www.vox.com/21524499/what-trump-has-done-for-black-people
  • Trump passed a significant criminal justice reform measure, but his administration has worked to undo it
  • Black employment gains before the pandemic were real — but not the result of Trump’s presidential term
  • Trump’s claims on poverty don’t tell the full story of racial disparity
  • The mechanism for funding HBCUs has very little to do with Trump
All this adds up to is...a 2nd term for trump means nothing good for black americans.

The only reason trump even came up is because of ADOS organization strategy (YOUR strategy) of not voting the top of the ticket.... I don’t expect Republicans to offer legitimate solutions to remedy the ills of American slavery. But Democrats should not rest on their laurels on the assumption ADOS have no other political options. On the contrary, ADOS and all of Black America have the option of withholding our votes from the top of the ticket.

in the 2020 election..blacks withholding our vote for Biden only helps Trump so trump becomes president...this isn't hypothetical... its math, its process of elimination... fewer votes for biden can only help trump this is why reps have been trying to suppress the black vote on other ways:

The British outlet obtained the database used by Trump’s digital team in 2016, which includes details on nearly 200 million Americans.
According to the data, in 16 key battleground states, the Trump team separated millions of U.S. voters into eight categories, also described as “audiences” they could reach with tailored advertisements, and disproportionately marked Black Americans in a category labeled “Deterrence” for people it hoped wouldn’t show up to vote.

Nearly 3.5 million Black Americans were categorized under “Deterrence,” comprising 61% of the category in Georgia, despite making up 32% of the population in the state; 46% in North Carolina, where they made up 22% of the population; and 17% in Wisconsin, despite making up 5.4% of the population.


Per Channel 4 News, other minority groups also were disproportionately lumped into the category, with voters labeled as Black, Hispanic, Asian and “Other” comprising 54% of those listed under “Deterrence.”


Again the calculation here is obvious... less votes for biden helps trump.

So understanding that..why would a group ADOS supposedly advocating for ADOS people...tell them to withhold their vote from the top of the ticket while voting democratic down-ballot?

In hopes of achieving WHAT exactly??
 
then why withold the vote from the top of ticket thus allowing them to become president

its sad and exposing how your AVOIDING answering this question directly its the 3rd time i've asked it.

this makes ADOS agenda suspect as fuck coming from you...I'll do this...you can use a lifeline...call one of your boys

@xfactor
@KingTaharqa
@Soul On Ice

I see that I can post a million charts and tables for you and you’d act like they don’t exist. However, if you were to look at the EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE, then you would see that conditions do not improve for Black people as a whole under either DEMOCRATS or REPUBLICANS! Hence the article I posted above. Now, can you refute this? Can you EMPIRICALLY show where this is wrong?

Black Voters Are So Loyal That Their Issues Get Ignored

 
Damn :smh:

I'm not going to lie, I don't keep up with this stinking cunt. And when ya'll used to post that she was a right wing plant and a Trump supporter I laughed but I didn't give it any credence. But watching this shit here, seeing here smiling and celebrating with glee, its fucking disgusting :smh:

Why don’t you watch and listen to the FULL video first?

 
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