Joe Biden is now POTUS

I said that?... you keep saying "you guys".

I don't think he should lean on the Justice Department, but there is no way I said he shouldn't call the people that sacked the Capital Building terrorists.
This is what I said:

"Biden needs to snap out of this bs. This isn't were people are at. We don't want to hear nice, and pleasant talk. We want to hear forceful and real talk about these terrorist and their leader. Treating these mutherfuckers with kids gloves is what lead up to what happened yesterday."

This was your reply:

"Naw. He's doing the right thing. Biden has been playing this shit perfectly IMO. He's playing contrast and all the non-trumpsters are with it. They like it for the most part. Let Pelosi and Congress do their duty."
 
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Is that Nicholas Cage? :roflmao: :roflmao:
 
This is what I said:

"Biden needs to snap out of this bs. This isn't were people are at. We don't want to hear nice, and pleasant talk. We want to hear forceful and real talk about these terrorist and their leader. Treating these mutherfuckers with kids gloves is what lead up to what happened yesterday."

This was your reply:

"Naw. He's doing the right thing. Biden has been playing this shit perfectly IMO. He's playing contrast and all the non-trumpsters are with it. They like it for the most part. Let Pelosi and Congress do their duty."

But my point is that he's already being forceful. That's why I'm asking you what more do you want him to say? Pretty much from day 1 he said it was sedition and said the DOJ is going to take care of it.

I feel like you want him to use more inflammation language than calling them terrorists and saying the POTUS incited insurrection. He's done that from the beginning and he keeps lighting up Trump over it.

I think he's doing it perfectly without coming off as partisan. When I say "he's playing contrast".. I mean there is a way you can be forceful and call things out without being hyperpartisan like Trump. Most people are burned out on that shit. I don't even want him to get to loose with the rhetoric and I hate those fucking MAGAts and I stay calling the Dems soft. But I think he's threading the needle perfectly on this.

I have the same question.. what more do you want him to do? He even called out GOP Senators for inflaming this and said he's not as guilty as Trump but Republican Senators have blood on their hands too.

I'm dead serious.. what do you really want him to do? I think he's doing this shit perfectly.. way better than I expected him to do.
 
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Dershowitz: I’ll defend Trump from impeachment again
By Meridith McGraw and Daniel Lippman 32 mins ago

Dershowitz: I’ll defend Trump from impeachment again


The legal team that defended President Donald Trump from impeachment is rushing to his side as it happens again.
© Mario Tama/Getty Images Alan Dershowitz, the Trump-allied celebrity attorney, argued that President Donald Trump’s encouragement of this week’s Capitol riots was “constitutionally protected” speech.
With House Democrats pushing to impeach the president before he leaves office, Alan Dershowitz, the Trump-allied celebrity attorney, argued that Trump’s encouragement of this week’s Capitol riots was “constitutionally protected” speech. He said it would be his “honor and privilege” to take on the legal defense.

“It's not a high crime or misdemeanor. What he said was protected by the First Amendment and it's not subject to removal under the 25th Amendment,” Dershowitz told POLITICO. “He's not unable to govern, he's not incapacitated and I think grave dangers to the constitution are being posed by those partisans who want to weaponize the Constitution for political purposes.”

Others who were at Trump’s side when he was impeached in late 2019 issued similar objections to the notion that the president had committed an impeachable offense once more. Jay Sekulow, Trump’s longtime attorney who represented him during the 2019 trial, warned that instituting articles of impeachment now, with just days left in Trump term, would be “a gigantic mistake.”

“You could impeach him but he’s never going to be there for the trial. They’ll never have a trial in the Senate,” Sekulow said on his radio show. “Why would you put the country through that when the man’s term is over with and you got the ultimate victory your candidate is going to be the president of the United States?”

But the sentiment articulated by Dershowitz and Sekulow wasn't shared across the spectrum. And, indeed, some lawyers who previously represented the president said the case currently being presented against him is stronger than the one he ultimately fended off in a Senate trial.
“Unlike the last time, where they didn't even charge a crime, I could imagine that you could draft an article of impeachment that would actually make a legal argument that the president aided or abetted or actually elicited a riot,” said Robert Ray, a member of the president’s defense team during the last impeachment.

The division even among the president’s legal allies is a microcosm of the chaos Trump has sparked in recent days. The president’s instigation of Wednesday’s ransacking of the Capitol has thrown his own party into turmoil in the final days of his presidency, prompted resignations among his own cabinet members, and convinced Democrats in Congress to take swift action to remove him from office even as his term nears its conclusion.
“Today, following the president’s dangerous and seditious acts, Republicans in Congress need to follow that example and call on Trump to depart his office—immediately,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi wrote in a letter to House members.


Trump’s initial impeachment came after it emerged that he solicited foreign interference in the 2020 election—pressuring the president of Ukraine for information on Joe Biden and his son Hunter. The Senate ultimately declined to convict, though one Republican, Mitt Romney, did back one impeachment article.

Slightly over a year later, Trump finds himself embroiled in another impeachment saga. And while Republicans, including White House veterans, have largely resisted the effort to push him out of office before his term ends, they are expressing far more disgust with his actions this go around.
"I was talking to some friends and when it happened, I felt very sad. It was a familiar feeling but I couldn't place where I last experienced it,” said a former White House lawyer. “And then it came to me. I felt almost identical to the day I was 17 and learned Martin Luther King had been assassinated. It was a country I didn't recognize.”

Behind closed doors, senior Republicans aides and lawmakers have discussed how to punish Trump for his involvement in the riots and violence at the Capitol, including talk of pursuing the 25th Amendment to remove him from office. Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska), said on Friday that the president should resign.

“He doesn’t want to stay there. He only wants to stay there for the title. He only wants to stay there for his ego,” Murkowski told the Anchorage Daily News. “He needs to get out. He needs to do the good thing, but I don’t think he’s capable of doing a good thing.”
So far, two of Trump’s cabinet members, Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos and Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao have resigned, citing Wednesday’s events.

Trump himself had not commented about the push for impeachment. But the White House issued a statement condemning it Friday afternoon.
“A politically motivated impeachment against a President, who has done a great job, with 12 days remaining in his term will only serve to further divide our great country,” said White House press secretary Judd Deere.

And some of Trump’s most vocal legal defenders did come to his defense in his absence.
Jonathan Turley, a George Washington University law professor who was a Republican witness during the House impeachment proceedings, said he has been fielding phone calls from members of Congress from both sides of the aisle asking for his guidance.

“There is a widely shared anger over the president’s speech. The rhetoric was wrong,” said Turley, who criticized the president’s rally as it was happening. But while he called the speech “inciteful” he said it would be considered protected speech.

“Consider the implications -- it would mean Congress would impeach a president for a speech that would be deemed protected under existing case law,” Turley said. “It would be done without hearings or the normal deliberations for impeachment and that’s a curious way for members to express support for our Constitution.”
--with reporting by Gabby Orr, Josh Gerstein and Sam Stein
 
But my point is that he's already being forceful. That's why I'm asking you what more do you want him to say? Pretty much from day 1 he said it was sedition and said the DOJ is going to take care of it.

I feel like you want him to use more inflammation language than calling them terrorists and saying the POTUS incited insurrection. He's done that from the beginning and he keeps lighting up Trump over it.

I think he's doing it perfectly without coming off as partisan.

I have the same question.. what more do you want him to do? He even called out GOP Senators for inflaming this and said he's not as guilty as Trump but Republican Senators have blood on their hands too.

I'm dead serious.. what do you really want him to do? I think he's doing this shit perfectly.. way better than I expected him to do.
Dude what part are you missing. You keep asking that question, yet I didn’t say, or state I wanted him to do more. He was not from the beginning calling them a terrorist and I had a problem with that. You said you did not understand why people are saying Biden was soft. I told you what the problem was (which is different from saying what the problem is) and I did not make any statement after that, that he should be doing more.
 
Well, of course. The writers of this show are fucking insane.
Think of the jobs of the future. Think of 90 years from now. Think of the people whom this country is currently importing. Do they look like the people who came through Elis Island a century ago?

Uneducated white men have bought white supremacy hook and sinker. They didn’t question it — they just it believed it.

Yeah some blacks people are going to be left behind. But we are conditioned for that divide. Can white guys who drive 15 year old Hyundais adapt?

SMH at the black Steve Bannons like Ice Cube.
 
Dude what part are you missing. You keep asking that question, yet I didn’t say, or state I wanted him to do more. He was not from the beginning calling them a terrorist and I had a problem with that. You said you did not understand why people are saying Biden was soft. I told you what the problem was (which is different from saying what the problem is) and I did not make any statement after that, that he should be doing more.

This was the very next morning. That shit was going down the evening before. Maybe you missed what he was already doing. I think the mixup is that he was already doing what you wanted him to do. You just didn't know.



Hours after it happened, he flamed Trump for inciting it. He said this goes past protesting and it's borderline sedition. That's LITERALLY saying that Trump has likely committed a federal crime and so have everyone who went to the Capitol Building. That's strong enough for me.


No need to battle over it though..... they'll do some real soft shift soon... this response aint it imo.
 
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The way these cops stood down... Let me know that somebody up top gave that order... Like it was zero resistance inside.

That was phase 1. Trump was hoping that at least one member of Congress died and then he'd declare Martial law without us having a certified President-Elect. He got 10 percent of what he really wanted. He needed the Capitol Police to stand down to even have a chance.
 
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