his pic is after Obamas, scroll rightYou sure are riding hard for this person. I can only find one article from this supposedly black journalist online. I dont see any pics in the article either
‘I’m young, Black and not all that impressed with Barack Obama’ | Opinion
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You sure are riding hard for this person. I can only find one article from this supposedly black journalist online. I dont see any pics in the article either
You can't find any articles because he is a student. At 20 years old getting your opinion published while staying on code and sticking to the facts is something I think should be encouraged. And the fact that at his young age he can see this..."And though Democrats took white voters from Trump, it was at the expense of voters of color, including Black people. With the exception of a handful of battleground states, the Democrats underperformed in Black, Latinx and Asian communities throughout the country." Gives me hope being a young Black American who is closer to 50 than 20.
This article is great because it shows the younger generation are going to be the ones to step up and fix the destruction of their forefathers, who are already broken and have been for decades now. The baby boomers are also the worst generation of leaders in the last century.
Props to the young man for sharing his opinion and not being afraid or ignorant to what is going on like the majority of his elders.
Props to the young man for sharing his opinion and not being afraid or ignorant to what is going on like the majority of his elders.
Yeah promoting socialism is career suicide in politics. No one will get any traction promoting that
Its easy to be a rebel of social justice and armor bearer for socialism in a city with a high minority population. Its also easy to enjoy the battle without a plan of success.
You want black leaders to scream from the mountain tops and slap cacs in the face but in the end what will that get you? Some of you condemn and belittle the very victories that were won using the tactics Obama was speaking to. What great battle of violence or verbal vitriol netted us anything in the past? Where are the non political victories that you point to show, this is how we should do it look at the proof?
There is a lot of back and forth about what Obama did or didn't do without the balance of what he could and couldn't do as President. What's funny to me is how the line of dissention for his accomplishments grows seemingly daily. A line full of the same people taking note of the ever growing list of things Trump has been over turning since he has been in office. We condemn Trump for removing or erasing everything Obama did but then chastise him for not doing anything "scratches head".
It seems to me with all of the intelligent dudes and women on this board it can't be lost on you that changes in this county are political and there is not enough of us to make changes on our on. Thus, you have to be able to attract white people to join your cause to help further your mission, its only math.
Show me the list of things you feel Obama could have done, for black people, that Mitch the Bitch and the other Repubs would have signed off on. I'll wait.
You want black leaders to scream from the mountain tops and slap cacs in the face but in the end what will that get you? Some of you condemn and belittle the very victories that were won using the tactics Obama was speaking to. What great battle of violence or verbal vitriol netted us anything in the past? Where are the non political victories that you point to show, this is how we should do it look at the proof?
There is a lot of back and forth about what Obama did or didn't do without the balance of what he could and couldn't do as President. What's funny to me is how the line of dissention for his accomplishments grows seemingly daily. A line full of the same people taking note of the ever growing list of things Trump has been over turning since he has been in office. We condemn Trump for removing or erasing everything Obama did but then chastise him for not doing anything "scratches head".
It seems to me with all of the intelligent dudes and women on this board it can't be lost on you that changes in this county are political and there is not enough of us to make changes on our on. Thus, you have to be able to attract white people to join your cause to help further your mission, its only math.
Show me the list of things you feel Obama could have done, for black people, that Mitch the Bitch and the other Repubs would have signed off on. I'll wait.
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Because he was the last winner. and even Biden because of association is going to be in his shadow for at least the first year or two. Even Republicans have been trying to Biden is Obama's third term, although the nuts try to take it further and say Michelle is up next.
First, I dont listen to 20 year olds about much of anything.
But i read the article with an open mind.
And it was a waste of my time.
He thinks raising the minimum wage is socialism? And that socialism is as popular as capitalism within his demographic?
What?
Yeah he entitled to his opinion but right now Im thinking its someone else's opinion that he's regurgitating.
But i read the article with an open mind.
And it was a waste of my time.
He thinks raising the minimum wage is socialism? And that socialism is as popular as capitalism within his demographic?
What?
Yeah he entitled to his opinion but right now Im thinking its someone else's opinion that he's regurgitating.
Social media generation is gonna be the ones to change the system. Too much free information to be seen otherwise. They will change the game. Too much truth comes to light.
They can blend into society and be able to completely talk shit and do research online without being seen. Technology will be tj3 game changer that brings about real change, it's gonna happen eventually.
The fact we got 20 year olds knowing what centrist means rather then getting some oussy and smoking some trees shows how far these young people are from alot of us older cats.
Agree and disagree when the people lose hope it's a wrap. They push race and fear for a reason but when their bottom dweilers get tired of the lies they'll be forced to change.
Call me narrow-minded but I don't take any black person with a sense of entitlement judging Obama.
Not only did he achieve the seemingly impossible, but his influence also helped tear down discrimination in
countries he's never traveled to. Bottom line, the man is a politician aware of his color.
If you thought he could singularly raise his own in the vein of MLK and Malcolm X while leading a first world nation,
I appreciate your vote. Whatever he couldn't accomplish, take note, and fix it yourself.
Not only did he achieve the seemingly impossible, but his influence also helped tear down discrimination in
countries he's never traveled to. Bottom line, the man is a politician aware of his color.
If you thought he could singularly raise his own in the vein of MLK and Malcolm X while leading a first world nation,
I appreciate your vote. Whatever he couldn't accomplish, take note, and fix it yourself.
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The thing is, it does matter now. Hoe Biden is packing his cabinet with Obama retreads and Obama is the current "Black" mouthpiece of the Dem party. Add in his new book and him hitting the circuit, he's very relevant.
The timing is simply because white people know Obama has 0 protection now. ADOS is no longer caping for him so you are seeing more whites, hispanics, and young Blacks call him out and see him for the centrist war time drone strike fraud that he is. And its only gonna increase because whites see there is 0 pushback now.
His stans alienated the only people who did and could protect his legacy, so now he doesnt have one. Black immigrants and Dem stooges cant give Obama the cred and legacy he wants. He needs ADOS for that.
What's the point? Obama didn't do this, didn't do that, didn't do what YOU thought he should do. Everybody loves to tear down but I never see an actual workable alternative solution presented along with the teardown.
You know what they say about opinions.
You know what they say about opinions.
Have you not seen the weak ass COVID relief package they are about to sign onto? This shit is a hit piece to sway voter support to flip Georgia so republicans can keep control of the Senate.The thing is, it does matter now. Hoe Biden is packing his cabinet with Obama retreads and Obama is the current "Black" mouthpiece of the Dem party. Add in his new book and him hitting the circuit, he's very relevant.
The timing is simply because white people know Obama has 0 protection now. ADOS is no longer caping for him so you are seeing more whites, hispanics, and young Blacks call him out and see him for the centrist war time drone strike fraud that he is. And its only gonna increase because whites see there is 0 pushback now.
I am not entertaining any shit like this right now. See me in Feb.-March with this.
I don't give two shits about Obama.
I'm not falling for distractions, either. I see this for what it is.
Barack Obama is the past; I'm in the present.
When I read threads like this, I get a sense about why the DNC are so arrogant when it comes to the black community.
They often let it slip, that they think they own us.
That's what Biden meant when he spouted that "then, you aint black" line.
Then, he got black folks to go vote for him in droves, LOL.
They know that black folks are highly susceptible to their marketing.
They think black folks are fucking lemmings, and the community haplessly follows.
Folks on here attack those that question the narrative like they're getting paid by the DNC.
There is a name for that: Panopticism.
Panopticism is a state of mind named for philosopher Jeremy Bentham's conception of a prison whose structure would induce a mentality in the prisoners that would ultimately get them to police themselves.
The way it worked, is that
That is the black community. Surveilled on all sides and beaten into a condition where alternative
thought is heresy, and unthinkable. Enforced firstly from the outside, and now from members of our own community.
I think about this every time someone on here launches an attack on a black person's legitimate skepticism towards the intentions of the DNC.
It is the liberal version of the stockholm syndrome black republicans [like candice owens] have with the RNC.
They often let it slip, that they think they own us.
That's what Biden meant when he spouted that "then, you aint black" line.
Then, he got black folks to go vote for him in droves, LOL.
They know that black folks are highly susceptible to their marketing.
They think black folks are fucking lemmings, and the community haplessly follows.
Folks on here attack those that question the narrative like they're getting paid by the DNC.
There is a name for that: Panopticism.
Panopticism is a state of mind named for philosopher Jeremy Bentham's conception of a prison whose structure would induce a mentality in the prisoners that would ultimately get them to police themselves.
The way it worked, is that
- First, they built a prison that was shaped like a do-nut with cells lining the walls.
- A single guard tower would be erected in the middle of the donut-hole, with screens on the windows so that prisoners could not see into the tower, but guards in the tower could peer into every cell.
- Prisoners would be given a tight schedule of tasks [like grooming, or exercise] to perform in each cell at specific times during the day.
- If they fail to maintain the schedule, they were beaten severely with clubs.
- The theory was that though initially, you would need a full staff of guards in the tower; eventually the tower could be empty and the prisoners would keep the schedule and perform the tasks independently.
- They would even continue to do so when they left prison.
That is the black community. Surveilled on all sides and beaten into a condition where alternative
thought is heresy, and unthinkable. Enforced firstly from the outside, and now from members of our own community.
I think about this every time someone on here launches an attack on a black person's legitimate skepticism towards the intentions of the DNC.
It is the liberal version of the stockholm syndrome black republicans [like candice owens] have with the RNC.
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Obama is the past, but the dems keep using him to keep the community calm and from making demands so people are going to speak on him. No big deal.
You sound a intelligent but at the same time, I am confused why you would expect a president to single out 15% of the country and "save" them.
Please explain what you wanted that Obama didn't do?
Did you want him to give all black people reparations, 40 acres and a mule?
All black people should get 1 million dollars what?
How do you think that would be possible.
If if he wanted to, which I am not sure if he wanted to, HOW could he have done it?
How could he have done it and not get assassinated.
Quite frankly I thought he was going to be assassinated in the 1st year.
Now I am think he might still be assassinated but by a black person.
Please explain what you wanted that Obama didn't do?
Did you want him to give all black people reparations, 40 acres and a mule?
All black people should get 1 million dollars what?
How do you think that would be possible.
If if he wanted to, which I am not sure if he wanted to, HOW could he have done it?
How could he have done it and not get assassinated.
Quite frankly I thought he was going to be assassinated in the 1st year.
Now I am think he might still be assassinated but by a black person.
Indeed. Not to mention when you have someone criticizing someone who has accomplished more when he was taking a shit than they have in their entire life. This whole idea of Blacks progress under Obama as a measuring stick is fucking non-sense. The Man was president. His first job is to govern. All presidents usually have to govern from the center unless your party has a sizeable majority in Congress. Even then you have to be careful. The fact that he was president has opened the door for other people of color in politics to get to the Oval Office. I say instead of whining about what Obama didn't do take your black ass into politics and see if you can fucking do better. Because since Obama nobody can ever say again that 'Merica will never elect a Black President because 'Merica did. So if nothing else that door is open. You can sit on the sideline talking shit or get in the game and attempt to go through. If not shut the fuck up. Enough of these Internet Paper Mache Revolutionaries.
Good questions. Since you referenced numbers. I'll keep it about the numbers:
- 15% of America is black. The racial wealth gap is a well known problem in this country that affects black people directly. The inequality in the justice system and mistreatment by police is also well known and undisputed. Again, America is 15% black.
- 4.5% of America identifies as LGBTQ. Their struggle for recognition and equality goes back to the 60s. Barack Obama championed their cause and made same sex marriage legal in this country. Again, 4.5% of America is LGBTQ.
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We've had other pro-Black candidates attempt to run for the office of President, and the main thing that got them ignored by the power structure/ mindset of this capitalist, racist, white, male, wealthy, plutocratic oligarchy that is (currently) our country is that they ran as pro-Black. I was a teenager in the early 90's, and although I didn't run around quoting Tupac, one of his lyrics stuck with me: "America ain't ready to see a Black president." America still wasn't ready when Barack won, and Trump is evidence of that. The criticism that Obama didn't do enough as a Black president to push Black priorities says that we were hoping for him to champion culturally specific causes that would have been utterly railroaded by the wealthy white men surrounding him on all sides. If he had prioritized Black communities over all else, he would have easily been a one-term president because, as a country, we are still struggling to move past this obstacle.
Comparing his open support of the LGBTQ community compared to what we believe is silence toward the Black community is an understandable frustration until we remember that many (I personally believe the majority) of the white men in power all share the practices of at least two or three of those letters when the cameras are off and the meetings are over. More of them were/are leaders in the fields of politics, corporate America, and entertainment, so it makes sense to protect his office (and secure that second term) by forwarding that particular cause. Honestly, the color of his skin is what scared America the most, and, as a bonus, he was able to keep himself and his family squeaky clean while doing the things that a moderate white Democratic president would do (and speak intelligently along the way).
Obama understood that he might be threatened with impeachment over a tan suit while someone like Trump would allowed to continue supporting foreign interference, practicing abuse of power, instigating racism, and on and on and on. Is Obama perfect? No. But, he also understood that he would have to manage a country full of people that hated him and his family without giving them a reason to remove him from office (or from this plane of existence). He did so, and the fact that he did so with a brown face left racist whites with enough cognitive dissonance to elect Trump and help create our current situation. Every day he was alive as President, he worked to unravel deeply embedded racism in some, and helped others to see beyond what they were taught to believe about themselves as Black Americans. However, to all the people criticizing him for "not doing enough for Black people," I say this:
Do better.
If you read all of this, thank you.
We've had other pro-Black candidates attempt to run for the office of President, and the main thing that got them ignored by the power structure/ mindset of this capitalist, racist, white, male, wealthy, plutocratic oligarchy that is (currently) our country is that they ran as pro-Black. I was a teenager in the early 90's, and although I didn't run around quoting Tupac, one of his lyrics stuck with me: "America ain't ready to see a Black president." America still wasn't ready when Barack won, and Trump is evidence of that. The criticism that Obama didn't do enough as a Black president to push Black priorities says that we were hoping for him to champion culturally specific causes that would have been utterly railroaded by the wealthy white men surrounding him on all sides. If he had prioritized Black communities over all else, he would have easily been a one-term president because, as a country, we are still struggling to move past this obstacle.
Comparing his open support of the LGBTQ community compared to what we believe is silence toward the Black community is an understandable frustration until we remember that many (I personally believe the majority) of the white men in power all share the practices of at least two or three of those letters when the cameras are off and the meetings are over. More of them were/are leaders in the fields of politics, corporate America, and entertainment, so it makes sense to protect his office (and secure that second term) by forwarding that particular cause. Honestly, the color of his skin is what scared America the most, and, as a bonus, he was able to keep himself and his family squeaky clean while doing the things that a moderate white Democratic president would do (and speak intelligently along the way).
Obama understood that he might be threatened with impeachment over a tan suit while someone like Trump would allowed to continue supporting foreign interference, practicing abuse of power, instigating racism, and on and on and on. Is Obama perfect? No. But, he also understood that he would have to manage a country full of people that hated him and his family without giving them a reason to remove him from office (or from this plane of existence). He did so, and the fact that he did so with a brown face left racist whites with enough cognitive dissonance to elect Trump and help create our current situation. Every day he was alive as President, he worked to unravel deeply embedded racism in some, and helped others to see beyond what they were taught to believe about themselves as Black Americans. However, to all the people criticizing him for "not doing enough for Black people," I say this:
Do better.
If you read all of this, thank you.
He's a kid. I dont expect him to remember what Obama meant to us, nor how much we hated bush. For 8 years we thought we could sit at the big table, be a part of this great American experiment, we could dream. Was it built on fairy tales? Yes, but it was ours. Same way CACs dream of Camelot and the Kennedys we had Barack. No kid who isnt even old enough to remember 9/11 can take that away from us.
Its a generational thing.
Its a generational thing.
Republicans won Florida just on socialism alone.
So if the journalist was 88 he woulda been to old to remember Obama and all his achievements?
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