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A showdown is about to break out between Mitch McConnell and Donald Trump: columnist
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December 15, 2020
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Sarah K. Burris
In a Washington Post column, Aaron Blake explained that the two worlds seems to be existing in a parallel universe.
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“If Trump is still going after [Georgia Gov. Brian] Kemp (R-GA) for not doing his bidding, why would McConnell be spared Trump’s wrath?” asked Blake. “And if he really wants to press the issue, Trump can give McConnell major headaches in Georgia’s decisive Senate races. There, party leaders are concerned about GOP turnout dropping thanks to Trump’s voter fraud claims — and for apparently good reason. McConnell’s recognition of Biden’s win could be read as an attempt to move beyond this phase and focus more intently on Georgia.”
Blake noted that Trump isn’t exactly the team player that people want to believe. Already the Republican Party is furious that he’s hoovering up fundraising dollars from Republican donors for his failed litigation efforts instead of giving it to Georgia Republicans.
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“The money that Republicans are gathering, that President Trump is raising — Republicans on the Hill, they’re pissed off because they are taking that money and they are saying, ‘Oh, you have to help us win these elections in Georgia to win the Senate majority.’ The Trump team is taking that money and doing things for themselves with it,” said MSNBC’s Kassie Hunt.
So, McConnell is in an impossible position, Blake explained. He has to appease Trump because if he doesn’t, Trump will turn his voters off of the 2020 runoff in Georgia, and McConnell will lose his power.
“But if Trump truly believes in his cause — rather than if this is, say, just an exercise aimed at fundraising and claiming he never actually lost — how can he let this one lie? He can’t,” Blake closed. “Now is when we find out who is truly running this party from this point forward because its two top leaders’ positions are completely irreconcilable.
Published
33 mins ago
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December 15, 2020
By
Sarah K. Burris
In a Washington Post column, Aaron Blake explained that the two worlds seems to be existing in a parallel universe.
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00:0501:54
“If Trump is still going after [Georgia Gov. Brian] Kemp (R-GA) for not doing his bidding, why would McConnell be spared Trump’s wrath?” asked Blake. “And if he really wants to press the issue, Trump can give McConnell major headaches in Georgia’s decisive Senate races. There, party leaders are concerned about GOP turnout dropping thanks to Trump’s voter fraud claims — and for apparently good reason. McConnell’s recognition of Biden’s win could be read as an attempt to move beyond this phase and focus more intently on Georgia.”
Blake noted that Trump isn’t exactly the team player that people want to believe. Already the Republican Party is furious that he’s hoovering up fundraising dollars from Republican donors for his failed litigation efforts instead of giving it to Georgia Republicans.
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“The money that Republicans are gathering, that President Trump is raising — Republicans on the Hill, they’re pissed off because they are taking that money and they are saying, ‘Oh, you have to help us win these elections in Georgia to win the Senate majority.’ The Trump team is taking that money and doing things for themselves with it,” said MSNBC’s Kassie Hunt.
So, McConnell is in an impossible position, Blake explained. He has to appease Trump because if he doesn’t, Trump will turn his voters off of the 2020 runoff in Georgia, and McConnell will lose his power.
“But if Trump truly believes in his cause — rather than if this is, say, just an exercise aimed at fundraising and claiming he never actually lost — how can he let this one lie? He can’t,” Blake closed. “Now is when we find out who is truly running this party from this point forward because its two top leaders’ positions are completely irreconcilable.
Gawd damn
But remember that Sista who was found in the Hudson though. Somebody reached out and touched her and it wasn't Jimbo Billy Bob.
Lifelong Republican and Lincoln Project co-founder Steve Schmidt officially joins the Democratic Party. He gives his reasons for making the switch at the 4:20 mark.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podca...h-carl-bernstein/id1529896611?i=1000502307863
He's been spitting fire at Trump and the Republicans for more than four years now.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podca...h-carl-bernstein/id1529896611?i=1000502307863
He's been spitting fire at Trump and the Republicans for more than four years now.
because MAGA's will get stomped into those NYC grounds..
There is a lot of Republicans pissed off at this guy because he didn’t continue to do the same thing that Kemp did.....the cat is out of the bag and it’s not going back in.
Can't quite explain it but I've always...
Lmao... like I said man, all your takes are as disingenuous as they boring. I legit yawn everytime I read your posts. I may be an asshole but you are unremarkable af my guy. I could spend time posting primary sources for your dense ass like I did when I explained the causes of the American Civil War but why would I? Especially when I’d only receive an outpouring of vacuous platitudes and feelings in return? All your typing in this thread constitutes nothing more than pretending. You’re pretending that Republicans, who are now themselves pretending that the electoral process writ large is just whatever Trump says it is, are just another party to be contended or negotiated with by black folks. It’s such a fucking retarded take. I hate most Dems and literally held my nose voting for this decrepit fuck Joe Biden but I’m also not retarded.
Because frankly, waxing poetic about how bad “both parties are” ahead of an election featuring an out-and-out authoritarian and a neo-liberal enabler of the status quo smacks of delusion and simple mindedness. Dems can be negotiated with from the left (where literally all meaningful progress in this country comes from inspite of delusional takes to the contrary) and if you’re actually open to receiving data in that thick ass skull of yours I’m willing to oblige with primary historical sources again if you promise you won’t bitch out like you did again in that last thread.
imagine pretending that a party on record as supressing your vote purely on skin color in 2020 is in ANY way equivalent to Dems (for all their many, excruciating faults). Do better. I got a quote for your dumb ass to bruh:
Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit:
There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
—Frank Wilhoit
What's the point at this stage? Hasn't the EC certified Biden?
Moreover what's this obsession that there was this massive cheating scandal which to date no conclusive evidence has been found for?
What's more likely at this stage? There was a cheating scandal so well coordinated that to this date no hard evidence has been found for OR your candidate just straight up lossed and you can't accept it?
Who's that? Marcy, from Married With Children?
It's the short hair. Lol.
All I know is that this shit ain’t ending with Biden’s inauguration smh. These CACs have lost their natural born minds behind this orange orangutan. Authoritarianism is always the most logical stop on the GOP train. Hopefully the incoming admin won’t pretend that these assholes are good faith negotiators. Most importantly - Ossof and Warnock have to win GA... otherwise it’s two more years of tepid Dem bullshit kaiboshed by the Sen Majority. I’m sure y’all have discussed this to death but I’m throwing my lil two cents in anyways lmao
i actually don't give a shit.
if they never had a public life again i wouldn't give a shit.
Dumb asses
One of these Trump betters, a British woman based in Amsterdam identified only as “Helen,” actually bet more money after the election was called for Joe Biden, believing the president when he said the election was plagued with fraud and would be overturned.
“Had Trump won re-election, Helen would have won nearly 2.7 million euros, according to screenshots of her Betfair account,” reported Kelly Weill. “But Betfair and other gambling sites closed the books on their 2020 presidential betting on Monday, after the Electoral College certified Biden’s victory. Now Helen, who says she’s lost approximately €140,000 and believes the election results will be overturned, is joining other bettors in accusing gambling sites of wrongly calling the election for Biden.”
Meanwhile, “Jordan Lea, a U.K. man, told The Daily Beast he had ‘around £50,000 riding on Trump winning.’ He and others say they are appealing to Betfair to undo its payouts, ostensibly because Trump could still win (he can’t).” Lea believes Trump still has a chance because Republicans in several states have assembled “alternate” electors to cast votes for Trump, even though they haven’t been certified and their votes are meaningless.
“‘Billy Bets,’ a U.K.-based gambler and owner of a small pro-Trump forum, told The Daily Beast he and 15 other people in his new anti-Betfair Whatsapp group were pursuing legal action against the company for paying out Biden bets,” continued the report. “‘I have a background in political betting over 5 years, and I can say that over this time I have never experienced the scope of passion of the people voting for Trump,’ he told The Daily Beast. ‘Big tech, the mainstream media, and pollster
Trump has tried to cite political betting markets as proof the election was rigged, at one point tweeting that political betting “bookies” had him at 97 percent odds to win on the first evening — which wasn’t true.
They Bet Big on Trump. Now They Claim Fraud.
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“To be honest, the more likely it looked like fraud, the more I bet,” one bettor who drank up Rudy Giuliani nonsense said of losing over $170,000.
Despite betting money on President Donald Trump’s re-election, Helen was unfazed when Joe Biden was declared the victor.
She watched press conferences by Trump surrogates who claimed the election was a fraud. She watched a pro-Trump web show that alleged the same. Then, using the online gambling service Betfair, she wagered even more money on a Trump victory after Election Day.
“To be honest, the more likely it looked like fraud, the more I bet,” Helen, an Amsterdam-based British woman who declined to give her last name, told The Daily Beast.
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Kelly Weill
Had Trump won re-election, Helen would have won nearly €2.7 million euros, according to screenshots of her Betfair account. But Betfair and other gambling sites closed the books on their 2020 presidential betting on Monday, after the Electoral College certified Biden’s victory. Now Helen, who says she’s lost approximately €140,000 and believes the election results will be overturned, is joining other bettors in accusing gambling sites of wrongly calling the election for Biden.
Some of those Trump bettors are turning to conspiracy theories about election fraud—and threats to visit the homes of gambling company employees.
Americans (with a few exceptions) cannot legally bet on elections, but gamblers in Europe and Asia poured millions into the 2020 presidential race. Some of those bettors, like a Brit who wagered about $1 million on Biden, became significantly richer when betting sites began paying out after Biden’s Electoral College win on Monday.
Others were not so lucky. Some of these European bettors have become deeply invested in U.S. election fraud conspiracy theories, which they (still, despite everything) say will result in an overturned election and the return of their money.
Jordan Lea, a U.K. man, told The Daily Beast he had “around £50,000 riding on Trump winning.” He and others say they are appealing to Betfair to undo its payouts, ostensibly because Trump could still win (he can’t).
Lea and Helen both said Biden’s victory was up for debate because Republicans in several states had filed lawsuits challenging the election, while other Republican legislators had assembled pro-Trump “alternate” electors to challenge Biden’s win in their states. Proponents of the “alternate” voter scheme claim Vice President Mike Pence will choose those pro-Trump votes instead of the legitimate ones when, per the 12th Amendment, Congress convenes to ratify the Electoral College vote on January 6.
In actuality, none of those maneuvers have any chance of flipping the election for Trump. Dozens of pro-Trump election lawsuits have been tossed, including by the conservative-led Supreme Court. And the so-called “alternate” electors do not have any legal standing, despite some Republicans championing them as a way to hand blue states to Trump. There is “zero chance such a maneuver by Pence or the Republicans will succeed if they are bold enough to try this,” one elections expert told the Associated Press of the tactic.
And the fact of Trump’s defeat became even more ironclad on Tuesday, when GOP Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell explicitly congratulated Biden as the victor, after weeks of silence.
Still, the election’s results were uncertain enough for sites like Betfair to hold off on declaring a winner until Biden received his Electoral College victory on December 14. “We will only settle the markets when there is certainty around which candidate has the most projected Electoral College votes,” Betfair announced on November 5, two days after the election.
WIth Betfair still accepting wagers long after voting had stopped, some bettors like Helen dropped more money on the race, on the basis of voter-fraud theories.
“I watched the hearings of Rudy Guiliani and Jenna Ellis for ballot fraud, I listed [sic] to Sidney Powell and Lin Wood for the election fraud,” she said, in reference to conspiratorial lawyers arguing in Trump’s favor. “It looked very, very likely from the day of the election like it was fraud and as more info came out, I was more convinced of the win. Which is why I have such a large amount riding on it.”
Lea said it was wrong for Betfair to call the election after Biden’s Electoral College win because the company “explicitly told us that they're aware of these alternate electors and still claim that there is 100 percent certainty surrounding the Electoral College vote.”
He claimed an early version of Betfair’s terms and conditions said the site would pay out bets only when a candidate won the majority of Electoral College votes, and that on November 27, the site quietly changed its rules to read, the “most projected Electoral College votes.” (In fact, an archived version of the site and its terms and conditions from November 6 shows the language about “projected” votes.) He said that had he known Betfair would settle its bets when the Electoral College projected a winner, he would have “cashed out immediately” and used a different betting service.
Betfair did not immediately return a request for comment.
Lea and other aggrieved Europeans have gathered in chat rooms to assemble evidence for what they say will be a large claim against betting companies.
“We have thousands of screenshots documenting the LIES we were told by the live chat assistants, as we have grouped together in various chatrooms and are pooling the evidence together to stake our claim,” he said.
Not all of the chatrooms target Betfair. A chat room on the messaging platform Telegram also took aim at the company Bet365, with multiple members claiming to either be lawyers or have consulted lawyers on the case.
Others said they were actively pursuing lawsuits.
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“Billy Bets,” a U.K.-based gambler and owner of a small pro-Trump forum, told The Daily Beast he and 15 other people in his new anti-Betfair Whatsapp group were pursuing legal action against the company for paying out Biden bets.
“I have a background in political betting over 5 years, and I can say that over this time I have never experienced the scope of passion of the people voting for Trump,” he told The Daily Beast. “Big tech, the mainstream media, and pollster
He claimed he ”personally 'lost' ￡9,500, so I am committed to getting it back.”
In the anti-Bet365 Telegram group, one anonymous person appeared to threaten company employees. “I have the geo location of where some members of Bet365 live just so patriots know,” the person wrote. A spokesperson for the company could not immediately be reached for comment.
Another user replied that the suggestion was “fucked. We’re not antifa.”
“Maybe it's time we became them,” the original poster wrote back. “They are trying to take everything.”
The only certainty among many of the bettors was that Trump would be re-inaugurated on January 20. Which, of course, he will not be.
“I figured it would be either a void election and get my money back or it would be a Trump win via the terms of the 12th Amendment,” Helen, the Amsterdam woman said. “Either way Trump will be inaugurated on 20th January and I expect Betfair to pay out accordingly.”
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package watching? really??? ur a vet. u know better.....
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If Dems win control of the senate watch Sen. Manchin of WV to switch parties.
This is incredibly infuriating and entirely possible.
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Ronald Brownstein and Thomas Edsal of the Times are two of the best about racism driving the republican Party. They get deep into the science of psychology of those idiots.
I found this response interesting.
The GOP would be strong af if it ditched white supremacists. But we all know it won't.
Because the money is in stoking dwight mann's fear of Black people gaining power and treating him the same that he has treated us.
You ever find yourself repeating something over and over so you won't forget how to properly quote it later?
That's me now.
No explanation needed. I feel you mane.
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